Best Finnish prog band?
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Topic: Best Finnish prog band?
Posted By: Logos
Subject: Best Finnish prog band?
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 12:20
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As a Finn I'm very interested in knowing if you recognize any of these Finnish prog 'giants'. Which is your favourite Finnish prog band? I guess most of you have at least heard of Wigwam! Some of these can be considered as jazz/fusion as well, but nevermind. I'll probably vote for Kingston Wall. They rock! |
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 12:36
| Other: Nightwish. |
Posted By: Eemu Ranta
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 12:48
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I'm on a vacation in Helsinki, and just bought Tasavallan Presidentti's second album, and am now listening to Kingston Wall at my friend's house. I'll try to acquire Alamaailman Vasarat, Finnforest, Tabula Rasa and Haikara albums later this week. The only one I really know among these is Wigwam, which is pretty awesome, but I'm waiting until the end of the week until I cast my vote. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 12:56
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You forgot one great finnish band, Höyry-Kone. But my vote goes for
Wigwam (What a surprise) though I think Kingston Wall, Haikara,
Tasavallan Presidentti and Alamaailman Vasarat are also great. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 13:15
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By the way, sad news for the fans of Haikara. Their singer, composer,
guitar player Vesa Lattunen died a couple of weeks ago at the age of 55.
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 00:33
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Oh dear Lord, Nightwish got a vote! I consciously left them out of this
poll. My only concern now is whether the person who voted for Nightwish
has even heard any real Finnish prog bands, because they're all so much better! |
Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 00:45
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I never heard any of those bands... Any particular one worth getting into?? |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 00:56
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PEKKA POHJOLA Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 01:01
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Nightwish get my vote too! They are not that well known in my part of the world - but they do have a following. I have seen them compared to that other band (Evernescence). Tarja is by far the best female vocalist in prog metal. I would love to see them live... What recommendations for a similar Finnish band?
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Logos wrote:Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 01:37
It depends on what kind of prog you like. Wigwam, Tasavallan Presidentti, Haikara, Alamaailman Vasarat are "fusion" bands. If you're into jazzy prog you might wanna try Wigwam's "Fairyport" or "Being", Haikara's first album (might be a tough one to find though), or Tasavallan Presidentti's "Lambertland". If you're a Frank Zappa fan you should try Pekka Pohjola, Hidria Spacefolk is quite similar to Ozric Tentacles, Kingston Wall is basically a mix between Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin..And so on. I think they all worth getting  .-------------
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 02:37
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My vote went for Haikara. Sad News for Lattunen. Yes Hoyry Kone is missing and so is Uzva. Wigwam and Tasallavan Presidentii are the earliest and more meaningful Finish band. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 02:49
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Oh yeah, Uzva is also missing. Sean, you were wondering in your Uzva -
Niittoaika review what was the connection between Uzva and Hoyry-Kone.
Hoyry-Kone's Marko Manninen played cello on Uzva's first album
"Tammikuinen Tammela". I believe that's the connection.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 03:48
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Wow Somebody read that review?!?! Thanks but I find it still very lonely on that page. Care to add another all you crazy Finns?
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 07:07
Yes, Tarja is a great singer.(I prefer Heather Findlay from Mostly Autumn though |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 07:33
Yeah, I will be posting a review of that Uzva album some time soon. -------------
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:20
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Alamaailman Vasarat gets my vote - Whenever I listen to them I always end up grinning from ear to ear. Admittedly I've only heard Fairyport, but I can't quite see all the fuss about Wigwam on the strength of it. To me they seem to play somewhat Colosseum-esque bluesy jams and sub-standard Zappa ripoffs... Am I missing something? |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:35
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Alamaailman : Their second album has got tremendous moments where they sound like acoustic death-prog-metal. Actually , both Fairyport and Being are quite nice but somewhat over-rated (there are some Zappa influences no rip-offs) but Nuclear Nightclub is vastly over-rated. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:36
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Haikara's first two albums are some of the most original stuff I heard. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:48
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Alamaailman's 2nd is definitely their best. Oh, and from what I've heard of Haikara they're pretty special too, but I'm not familiar enough with their music to really pass judgement. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:55
Haikara's two first albums are definitely worth getting. The only
problem is that they are relatively rare. Even I had difficulties
finding those two albums and I live in Finland. 
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 13:27
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My pick. |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 13:32
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I have not heard any - But which is the closest to Yes/Genesis ?? ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 13:40
Probably Ageness. A neo-prog band that is quite close to Rush and Genesis. -------------
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Posted By: Eemu Ranta
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 15:48
| I found an awesome progstore from Helsinki today, provided with the biggest progselection I've ever seen live. Not only finnish, but italian, german and english prog too. Unfortunately my budget it reaching its bottom, and I came out with only Uzva's first album "Tammikuinen Tammela". I see there's no review of it yet, but I'll add one once I get home with a few more listens of this very promising jazz-fusion/prog album. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 16:35
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Eemu, do you remember the name of the progstore and where is it? I live
in Helsinki and I would like to know if there's a hidden progstore that
I'm not aware of.
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Posted By: Eemu Ranta
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 16:52
I'm sure you know this one, "Keltainen Jäänsärkijä" at Kamppi. It's just that even the most obscure cd store in Sweden doesn't have a tenth of all the prog cd's they had there, so to me it was like heaven 
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 16:59
Oh yeah, I know Keltainen Jäänsärkijä. They do have a great collection there!  I should probably visit there. I've been looking for that Uzva's first album myself. Hopefully you didn't pick the last one  .. Thanks anyway Eemu!
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 17:21
Hey thanks for that Logos - What I would love to hear are some Finnish groups who play prog similar to Pink Floyd, ELP, King Crimson (early), Yes - ie: who are influenced by these groups. What do you recommend? -------------
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: legembor
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 17:25
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Where's Hoyry Kone? ------------- 
He is comming, He's the Giant, Touch the Giant |
Posted By: JCProg
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 17:28
If he did, then try Hippie Shake Records in Hakaniemi. I'm sure they have both Uzva's cd's in stock. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 17:31
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valravennz, you might wanna try Kingston Wall. They made three
excellent albums much in the vein of Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin and
they also took inspiration from the East. Höyry-Kone then again made a
couple of crazy albums in the 90's. Clearly influenced by King Crimson
(Wetton-Bruford-Fripp era and maybe their 80's albums too). But
Höyry-Kone were much more than just a KC copycat. They were totally
crazy. EDIT: JCProg thanks -------------
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Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 18:39
I like Nightwish, in fact I was blown away when I saw them live two nights ago, but they definitely aren't prog... They're Power Metal/Opera Metal... And that's very little to do with progressive music... Also I wish they weren't compared to Evernescence... Because the two have nothing in common... It's like calling Linkin Park metal, you just need some reasonable argument to distinguish it clearly as trash... |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 18:51
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These guys are not prog but are surely different (at least before they sold out, so I'm told): Amorphis. Some of you "metalheads" know whom I'm talking about. They did an album and an ep based on the Kalevala titled "Tales From 1,000 lakes" and "Black Winter day". They package these together now. This is some really good stuff, it's like Pink Floyd meets hideous cookie monster vocals meets the cultural influence which is apparent in their music. Many great cuts, I highly suggest checking it out. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 19:38
| Tasavallan Presidentti, ever since finding Lambertland on vinyl back in 1973 (and I think in cheapo dumper bin), issued in the Uk by Sonet, that album has remained a firm favourite. The sticker on the front of the cover stating " A tidied up Traffic", was very misleading but having 30 years later got hold of the earlier recording Tasavallan Presidentti I see about where they got their ideas from. Excellent hydrid of blue rock and jazz, superb guitar and sax work of Lambertland - and The Bargain is one of my all time favourite tunes. |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 04:28
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Thanks for your suggestions. Will hunt them down. Hopefully wont be too hard to find. Cheers -------------
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 05:08
They're closely linked with Nightwish... Another big power metal act to come out of Finnland... They have played quite a bit with Nightwish... |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 05:12
| I'm a fan of Alamaailman Vasarat and Hidria Spacefolk, the rest of your list I haven't heard yet. Höyry-Kone is great too! |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 16:19
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Thanks - thats recommendation in itself -------------
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
BTW I noticed that you saw Nightwish live very recently - was that in Australia?? If so you lucky person! It's just a short step to cross "the ditch" - I would have been one of the first to lineup for a ticket if they had come to NZ 
Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 23:32
Sorry about the late reply, but yeah it was... Corner Hotel, Melbourne... Small venue, sold out, the crowd was great, the band loved it... Awesome show, topped my list... And by the sounds of it they'll be back within a year or so, thanks to the positive response from Australia... So that'll probably mean bigger venues, more gigs and maybe even New Zealand just for you...
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