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Best Song on Close to the Edge

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Topic: Best Song on Close to the Edge
Posted By: YesFan72
Subject: Best Song on Close to the Edge
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 17:47
So most of us will agree this is a masterpiece. But can one pick the best song?



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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:09
Oh come on.......we ALLLLL know which one that is.


Posted By: YesFan72
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:27
Not EVERYONE agrees with that...


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:30
I don't agree with that one


I went with &U&I


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Posted By: Lota
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:46
And You And I

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:48
wow... haven't seen a poll on this in a long time.. so I'll shelve the smartassery...

the title track of course...  simply the standard on which all prog epics are measureed.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:53
^ I concur.

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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:58
with me along we're already forming a crowd

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Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:58
"Siberian Khatru" is the only song on the album that I really enjoy.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 19:00
haven't posted this in awhile... so I'll toss it out again.. a little food for thought as to WHY Close to the Edge is the gold standard of not only this album.. but of .. maybe all prog.

once again.. by someone a hell of a lot smarter than me..  my buddy John McFerren

After all, ELP had had Tarkus, Genesis had had Supper's Ready, King Crimson had had, er, Lizard, not to mention Jethro Tull with Thick as a Brick and so on. Even groups that weren't necessarily "prog rock" in the strictest sense of the word, like Pink Floyd and Procol Harum, had had sidelong tracks. So Yes just had to keep up.

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).

So Yes took a different route, a route that was both simpler and more complicated than what had previously been attempted. And what was that route? Well, first of all, examine the basic structure of a pop-song, as mentioned in a comment below: Intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle8/instrumental-break/verse/chorus/outro. To this point, the general idea had been to make the basic verse and chorus melodies as compact as possible, with a minimal amount of development and deconstruction. But, smart men they were, Yes realized that this structure could just as well support lengthy, intensely developed and complex verse melodies. And so they went this route, and in essence created the world's first 19-minute pop song.

Now, of course, this artistic path is fraught with peril. Lengthy tracks of the 'conventional' manner all had an important safeguard - if one of the 'themes' they wrote turned out to be unlistenable crap, this would be somewhat countered by the fact it would be short, as the band would soon move to better things. In other words, if the 'main themes' that Yes would come up for their epic piece weren't absolutely top-of-the-line, the song they were constructing would end up as aural fecal matter. In short, if the band wasn't making quantity of musical ideas their main goal, they sure as heck needed to worry about the quality.

Ah, but that's what makes the song so amazing - I can tell you, with nary a doubt in my mind, that the band pulled this feat off amazingly. First things first, the band probably realized the potential accusations of "lack of diversity" that would come their way, so they compensated by throwing all sorts of influences into the pot at one time and running with the finished product. I mean, take a step back and consider for a second all of the many musical descriptions that CTTE has received just in the web-reviewing community; taken all together, the song is a 19 minute free-form-electric-acid-jazzrock/ambient piece with a pop song structure, a classical form and hints of reggae. And every one of those individual descriptions is accurate! Not to mention all of the incredible melodic and vocal hooks found throughout, or (as described below) the brilliant layering of vocal harmonies in places.




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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 20:30
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Oh come on.......we ALLLLL know which one that is.


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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 21:34
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Oh come on.......we ALLLLL know which one that is.

I chose that one


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Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 21:45
I chose "And You And I", because, although I love the Close to the Edge suite, I like AYAI better.


Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: November 25 2007 at 23:19
I voted for And You And I, and I enjoy Eddie Offord's full support of that opinion.


Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 00:12
No contest for me - CttE!


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 08:34
And You and I. To make it a bit closerWink.


Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 09:50
Siberian for me. The perfect live set opener...


Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 11:16
CTTE but I like And you and I very much


Posted By: paloz
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 12:57
Dunno. But if you want, i eliminate And You And I, surely not the best. I can't decide, i also love Khatru...


Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 18:11
Close to the Edge


Posted By: Baube3
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 21:07
That's an easy one...
Siberian Khatru is stupendous
And You And I is marvellous
 
But the choice is easy.
 
CTTE


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 21:14
Originally posted by Baube3 Baube3 wrote:

That's an easy one...
Siberian Khatru is stupendous
And You And I is marvellous
 
But the choice is easy.
 
CTTE


someone get that newb some clappies

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 21:18
A no brainer for me seeing that Close to the edge takes up half of the album. I love the way that it starts out and builds up to Steve Howe jamming.


Posted By: Baube3
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 21:24
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Baube3 Baube3 wrote:

That's an easy one...
Siberian Khatru is stupendous
And You And I is marvellous
 
But the choice is easy.
 
CTTE


someone get that newb some clappies

ClapClap
 
I ain't a noob...
 
I'm just shy ^^


Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 00:16
You guys are crazy! "Siberian" contains a kick ass riff, and perhaps my favorite moment in all of Yes-dom; you know the one, that hand-off jam between minutes 3 and 4. Yeah. That ROCKS for a change.

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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 01:45

The Title track or And You And I.  As the votes seem to indicate, Siberian Khatru is a bit of a let down after the first two tracks, IMO South Side of the Sky worked much better as a rocker...but SK starts off very strong, and the harpsichord/slide guitar exchange is stunning, but then the guys insist on repeating that same line over and over and over and over and over and over.

 

so...the title track it is.  A very emotional song for me, especially when...well, you know what part I'm talking aboutWink



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Posted By: Nucleus
Date Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:13
This being the album that got me into Prog Rock, Yes, and really, made me truly fall in love with music, it is like choosing between children when it comes to choosing a favorite moment. I'd say the title track is a 10/10, AYAI is 10/10, and SK is 9.5/10. I went with the title track, but it could have gone to any of them based on my mood.


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 29 2007 at 04:36

After a while I realised the track I listened to most was Siberian Khatru...so I vote it my fave!



Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 17:49
It's easy. Close to the Edge of course. But the other ones are masterpieces too, so Close to the edge is more than a masterpiece, simply divinal. 



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