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Topic: Yesstars
Posted By: Gaston
Subject: Yesstars
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 20:29
Out of 5
Yes: 3 Time and a Word: 3 The Yes Album: 4 Fragile: 5 Close to the Edge: 5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 4.5 Relayer: 4.5 Going for the One: 4 Tormato: 3 Drama: 3 90125: 2 Big Generator: 1 Union: 2 Talk: 3 Open Your Eyes: 3.5 The Ladder: 3.5 Magnification: 3.5 We Make Believe: Not heard yet but sounds like its ABWH so may be good.
Gaston 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 20:34
Only rate the below studio albums:
The Yes album
Fragile
Close to the edge
Tales from topographics
Relayer
All as excellent.At an extreme push 'Close to the edge' be best even for Joren.Ouch!


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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 20:36
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 20:46
Reed Lover you made a mistake
TFTO: 3 

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 21:05
Yes: 3 Time and a Word: 3.5 The Yes Album: 4.5 Fragile: 4 Close to the Edge: 5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 3 Relayer: 5 Going for the One: 2.5 Tormato: 2 Drama: 3.5 90125: 1 Big Generator: 0.5 Union: 0 Talk: 2.5 Open Your Eyes: 2.5 The Ladder: 3 Magnification: 3
Iván
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Posted By: Gaston
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 21:42
Ivan was that Yes scale or a real scale?
Going for the one 2.5 stars? The Yes album isn't better than Fragile imo.
Gaston
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Posted By: The-Bullet
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 22:24
Yes: 3
Time and a Word: 3.5
The Yes Album: 4.5 - Yes kicks into gear
Fragile: 4.5 - almost there..
Close to the Edge: 5 - Perfection
Tales From Topographic Oceans: 4 - Amazing but a bit padded
Relayer: 5 - A new direction , fusiony
Going for the One: 4 (turn of the century + awaken)
Tormato: 3.5 (unpolished)
Drama: 3 - great work by squire
90125: 2.5 - Rabin all over it, but still some pluses
Big Generator: 1
Union: 1
Talk: 2 - couple of good tracks but again Rabin's baby
Keys albums (Studio stuff) 3.5 - Mind Drive is excellent
Open Your Eyes: 2
The Ladder: 3
Magnification: 3.5 - very good effort with an orchestra
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Posted By: Roan's Lady
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 22:33
Yes: 2 Time and a Word: 2 The Yes Album: 4 Fragile: 4.5 Close to the Edge: 5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 4.5 Relayer: 5 Going for the One: 5 Tormato: 3.5 Drama: 3.5
90125: 2 Big Generator: 1
Union: 1
Talk: 1 Keys albums (Studio stuff) 2.5 Open Your Eyes: 1 The Ladder: 2 Magnification: 2.5
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 22:36
Hi Gaston: Honestly GFTO was a great disappointment for me, the keyboards sound horrible and most songs are bland, of course except Awaken, which deserves to be in a much better album.
Well, about Yes Album vs Fragile I'll stay with The Yes Album, has all my favorite tracks, Your's is no Disgrace, Starship Trooper, Your Move/All Good People, Clap and A Venture, not a single weak song, all masterpieces, don't give 5 stars because of the terrible production and because some of the tracks sound even better in Yessongs.
Fragile is another outstanding album, but has a couple of inferior tracks, like Cans and Brahms which is not in the level of Yes or Wakeman and We Have Heaven a song that simply I don't like.
But the difference between both ratings is only of 1/2 star, so it's not really significant, because in the Archives I would have to rate both with 4 stars.
Iván
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 23:25
Yes: 4 Time and a Word: 4 The Yes Album: 5 (except for production) Fragile: 4 Close to the Edge: 5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 4 Relayer: 5 Going for the One: 3,5 Tormato: 3 Drama: 2 90125: 3,5 Big Generator: 1 Union: 0 Talk: 3 Open Your Eyes: 0,5 The Ladder: 3.5 Magnification: 3.5
Something like that
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Posted By: Gaston
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 00:08
ivan_2068 wrote:
Hi Gaston: Honestly GFTO was a great disappointment for me, the keyboards sound horrible and most songs are bland, of course except Awaken, which deserves to be in a much better album.
Well, about Yes Album vs Fragile I'll stay with The Yes Album, has all my favorite tracks, Your's is no Disgrace, Starship Trooper, Your Move/All Good People, Clap and A Venture, not a single weak song, all masterpieces, don't give 5 stars because of the terrible production and because some of the tracks sound even better in Yessongs.
Fragile is another outstanding album, but has a couple of inferior tracks, like Cans and Brahms which is not in the level of Yes or Wakeman and We Have Heaven a song that simply I don't like.
But the difference between both ratings is only of 1/2 star, so it's not really significant, because in the Archives I would have to rate both with 4 stars.
Iván
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Ha, I'm just messing with you bud. Though perhaps Parallels has this "horrible" keyboard, I don't think the rest do, but then you go on to say that Awaken isn't bland so the keys musn't be that bad and Awaken is half the album! I say Awaken and Turn of the century are the best songs. Going for the one may have the wackiest album cover though.
And if anything, Fragile and Yes Album are equal. I think the five individual personel tracks on Fragile to be quite unique and fitting. Especially the Fish.
Cheers, Gaston
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 00:22
Hey Gaston, don't misunderstand me, Awaken is a great track despite the HORRIBLE keyboards 
Now seriously, in some moments of Awaken, Rick changes keys and uses Grand Piano, Hammond Organ plus a mini moog.
The rest of the keyboards sound as tin cans or a cheap Casio.
Iván
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 01:05
Out of 5
Yes: 2 Time and a Word: 3 The Yes Album: 4 Fragile: 5 Close to the Edge: 5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 4 Relayer: 5 Going for the One: 4 Tormato: 2 Drama: 3
90125: 1
Big Generator: 0
Union: 0
the rest I'm afraid to hear.
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Posted By: Matt0001
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 01:49
RE: Keyboards on Awaken: I entirely agree. I've never ranked Going for
the One as one of their best, even though a surprising number of fans
do. And Wakeman's keyboards has a lot to do with that. The sound in
general on that album isn't great. It's very thin and tinny. It was
also the first album in a while that was not produced by Eddie Offord
and his absense is heard. I think the live versions of the Going for
the One songs on Yesshows sound better.
And here are my rankings
Yes: 3
Time and a Word: 3
The Yes Album: 4
Fragile: 4.75 (-.25 because of Can and Brahms--eegads)
Close to the Edge: 5
Tales From Topographic Oceans: 4
Relayer: 4.25 (+ .25 soley because of the lack of Wakeman)
Going for the One: 3
Tormato: 1
Drama: 3
90125: 3 (I like the 80s Yes. It was the last time they sounded fresh)
Big Generator: 3
Union: 0
Talk: 0
Keystudio 1 (Since when did "progressive" mean "regressive?")
Magnification: 2
and I've never heard Open Your Eyes or The Ladder. Do I have to?
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 02:17
Yes: 3 Time and a Word: 3 The Yes Album: 4.5 Fragile: 4 Close to the Edge: 5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 2.5 Relayer: 4.5 Going for the One: 3 Tormato: 3 Drama: 3 90125: 1 Big Generator: 1 Union: 1 Talk: 1 Keys albums (Studio stuff):4 Close your ears: 0 The Ladder: 2 Magnification: 2.5
I agree with Iván about GFTO (all I want is Awaken) and I find TFTO rather obtuse in its concept.
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Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 03:07
Yes: 1.5 Time and a Word: 3 The Yes Album: 4 Fragile: 4 Close to the Edge: 4.5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 2 Relayer: 3.5 Going for the One: 5 Tormato: 2.5 Drama: 4.5 90125: 3 Big Generator: 1 Union: 1 Talk: Haven't listened to it! Keys albums (Studio stuff):3.5 Open your eyes: Not listened (nor I want to!) The Ladder: 2 Magnification: 3
How can Drama be rated so low? It's a great album.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 05:26
Yes: 2 Time and a Word: 3 The Yes Album: 4 Fragile: 4.5 Close to the Edge: 5 Tales From Topographic Oceans: 3 Relayer: 4 Going for the One: 4.5 Tormato: 3 Drama: not rated 90125: 2 Big Generator: not rated Union: 2 Talk: 4 Open Your Eyes: 1 The Ladder: 3 Magnification: 1
(not rated= don't have)
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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 05:31
Time and a Word 4
Yes Album 5
Fragile 5
Close to the Edge 4
The rest of the albums aren't worth rating.
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Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 06:11
Yes: 3+ Time and a Word: 4+ The Yes Album: 4 Fragile: 4+ Close to the Edge: 5+ Tales From Topographic Oceans: 5+ Relayer: 5+ Going for the One: 4 Tormato: 4 Drama: 4+ 90125: 4 Big Generator: 3 Union: 4 Talk: 4
Keys To Ascention (studio) 5 Open Your Eyes: 3 The Ladder: 4 Magnification: 3+
ABWH'89: 4+
Yes never released albums lower than average! (IMO).
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Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 09:27
These are the Yes albums I have listened to (from the best to the worst):
- Relayer ****˝
- Going for the One ****˝
- Fragile ****
- TFTO ****
- Tormato ****
- CTTE ***˝
- 90125 ***
- Big Generator **˝
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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 09:45
- Yes - 2
- Time and a word - 2
- The Yes Album - 3.5
- Fragile - 3.5
- Close to the Edge - 5
- TFTO - 5
- Relayer - 5
- GFTO - 5
- Tormato - 4
- Drama - 4.5
- The Ladder - 4
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 10:50
Swinton MCR wrote:
- Yes - 2
- Time and a word - 2
- The Yes Album - 3.5
- Fragile - 3.5
- Close to the Edge - 5
- TFTO - 5
- Relayer - 5
- GFTO - 5
- Tormato - 4
- Drama - 4.5
- The Ladder - 4
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All negative votes
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Posted By: RockChick
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 13:41
Erm.. Okay then, Tuxon, I'd say..
The Yes Album + 4
Fragile + 3
Close to the Edge + 4
TFTO + 5
Relayer + 4
90125 + 4
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Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 20:04
YES Album 4.5
Fragile 4.5
Close to the Edge 5
TFTO 5
Relayer 5
that's all i have.
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 20:11
The yes album 3.5, suprisingly better than i expected.
Fragile 3, sorry i dont particularily like it for some reason, but I cant find a good reason to rate it lower than 3
CTTE 5, its CTTE nuff said.
TFTO 4, this one REALLY grows on you if it were shorter it would be the best yes album
Relayer 4, Amazing but not perfect by any count.
Going for the one 4, One of the best peices by yes and is usually underrated
Tormato ive never actually heard the entire thing so i wont rate it.
Drama 3, also a pleasant surprise, two great tracks a few stinkers but overall good.
90215 - its been to long since ive heard it, i dont feel as if i can rate it fairly
thats it for me, i dont think ive even heard any material off of any other album.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 14:30
- Yes: 2
- Tima and a word: 2
- The Yes Album: 4
- Fragile: 4
- Close To the Edge: 4
- Tales From Topographic Oceans: 5
- Relayer: 5
- Going For The One: 4
- Tormato: 3
- Drama: 4
- 90125: 4
- Big Generator: 3
- Union: 1
- Talk: 3
- Open Your Eyes: 4
- The Ladder: 4
- Magnification: 3
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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 14:47
Posted By: bumheed7
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 15:00
yes - 3
time and a word - 4
yes album - 5
fragile - 5
close to the edge - 5
topographic - 4
relayer - 5.5 (just to make it stand out from the rest)
going for the one - 5
tormato - 3
drama - 3
90125 - 1
big generator - 2
union - 0
talk - 2
open your eyes - 3
the ladder - 4
keystudio - 3
magnification - 3
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Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 15:58
Yes - 3
Time and a Word - 3
The Yes Album - 4
Fragile - 4
Close to the Edge - 5
Tales From Topographic Oceans - 4
Relayer - 5
Going For The One - 5
Tormato - 3
Drama - 4
90125 - 4
Big Generator through Talk - 1
Open Your Eyes - 2
Key's Studio Stuff - 4
The Ladder - 2
Magnification - 3.5 (bonus for freakin sweet tour!)
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 16:07
Karnevil9 wrote:
Only rate the below studio albums:
The Yes album
Fragile
Close to the edge
Tales from topographics
Relayer
All as excellent.At an extreme push 'Close to the edge' be best even for Joren.Ouch!


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Posted By: Fishy
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 16:13
- yes : 2
- time and a word : 3
- the yes album : 4
- Fragile : 4,5
- Close to the edge : 4
- Tales from topographic oceans : 4
- Relayer : 5
- Going for the one : 4,5
- Tormato : 2,5
- Drama : 3,5
- 90125 : 4
- Big generator : 3
- ABWH : 3,5
- ABWH an evening of yes music plus : 3,5
- Union : 3
- Talk : 3
- keys to ascension : 3
- open your eyes : 1,5
- The ladder : 2,5
- Magnification : 3,5
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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: April 25 2005 at 18:31
Karnevil9 wrote:
Only rate the below studio albums:
The Yes album
Fragile
Close to the edge
Tales from topographics
Relayer
All as excellent.At an extreme push 'Close to the edge' be best even for Joren.Ouch!


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