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Topic: Centaur Rodeo (USA)
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Subject: Centaur Rodeo (USA)
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 17:21
Centaur Rodeo, which happens to be my band, just released their first record entitled Tongues of Flame. We made it available on iTunes and it's only $6.93. There is an intro track, the 18-minute epic "Sparta," divided into five tracks, each representing a different movement of the song, and "To Trust Is Sometimes to Surrender," a 9-minute song with many twists.
 
Centaur Rodeo is a progressive rock band that takes influence from a large number of bands and styles, though the main influences would be The Mars Volta, Dream Theater, and Opeth. It is impossible to describe our sound with words or with other bands. We have an affinity for odd time signatures, uncommon chord patterns, and technical skill exhibiton, all the while maintaining an emotional and melodic strain.
 
Our first recording features technical guitar, bass and drum work, enchanting cello and piano, mildly operatic tenor vocals, trippy sound effects, and percussion to accentuate different parts of the songs.
 
New to the band is a harpist who should be found on our next out put, which we plan to record next summer. Our new material is even more innovative than what we are doing now.
 
at http://www.myspace.com/centaurr0de0 - http://www.myspace.com/centaurr0de0  you can hear a couple of tracks on the upcoming album, as well as watch a live performance of "The Epiphany plus Jam," a section where the drummer moves to lead guitar, the lead guitar moves to bass, and the bassist moves to drums, and we jam for a while. Every few days we change the audio tracks to give people a chance to hear the whole album a little at a time.
 
Please check us out, I promise you won't be disappointed. And if you are intrigued enough, buy our album on iTunes, again, for only $6.93. 3 songs, 32 minutes of music.
 
Thanks


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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 17:36
Tell us a bit more about the album, Moat.
 
Will it be thru a label or an independent one? Smile


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 17:59

We're publishing it by ourselves at this point. We're only making it available for download at this time to save ourselves the cost of manufacturing CDs. Hopefully we'll generate enough talk and what not via the internet and maybe we'll get discovered. I really do feel strongly about our work.

It was recorded at Digital Insight studios in Las Vegas, which is a top-notch studio.
 
Anything else you would need to know about the album you can find out by listening to it! I really think you'll all be pleased with it if you give it a shot.


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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 18:21
What a nice surprise, Chris! The first 30" of Sparta Movement I is much in the krautrock vein (and I saw no kraut band as your influence) - I repeated it 5 times at least.
 
Songs show CR steadily as an eclectic act, too good! Star


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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 18:40
Great music! I applaud you. 

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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 09:17
I added you on MySpace but then my bulletin board filled with, honestly, spam... That's no way to do a good promotion. Pinch

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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 13:25
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

I added you on MySpace but then my bulletin board filled with, honestly, spam... That's no way to do a good promotion. Pinch
 
Are you saying we were spamming the boards? If so I have no idea what you're talking about. What is the problem?


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 25 2007 at 02:20
OK, we're about to add "Sparta, Movement III" and remove movement I. We're going through the whole album little by little. Two songs will always be up, and every 3-4 days we take out the top song and add the next track on the album. After the switch, the second and third movements of "Sparta," tracks 3 and 4 respectively will be up. 

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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 25 2007 at 06:48
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

I added you on MySpace but then my bulletin board filled with, honestly, spam... That's no way to do a good promotion. Pinch
 
Are you saying we were spamming the boards? If so I have no idea what you're talking about. What is the problem?


I'm saying that the bulletin board has 10 entries, and 5 or 6 of the last entries were yours, while the contents could have easily needed only one or two bulletins. That's not a very polite thing to do and yes, people call that spam. I had to delete you from my friends and I was sorry for having to do that, because your music is wonderful.


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 25 2007 at 12:35
I know what people call spam. We only post a few a day, really. I don't see what the big deal is. But hey if you really have a problem with it I'm sorry. Check the page periodically for new songs and what not.

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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 18:51
good job, i heard the 2nd and 3rd movement of sparta and i was really impressed. i might just end up buying that album of yours someday.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 19:02
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

I know what people call spam. We only post a few a day, really. I don't see what the big deal is. But hey if you really have a problem with it I'm sorry. Check the page periodically for new songs and what not.


He-he...this is pretty funny spam, I must admit I mean headlines


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 19:55
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

I know what people call spam. We only post a few a day, really. I don't see what the big deal is. But hey if you really have a problem with it I'm sorry. Check the page periodically for new songs and what not.


He-he...this is pretty funny spam, I must admit I mean headlines
 
Haha, well I'm glad you appreciate them.
 
 
And also, we have just taken down Movement II and added Movement IV.


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 05 2007 at 02:24
OK, we're up to the last two tracks. In 3-4 days we will be uploading the whole "Sparta" piece.

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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: November 01 2007 at 14:16
You can now hear our epic, "Sparta," in its entirety on MySpace for a limited time. Check it out!

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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: November 23 2007 at 04:25
Hi Chris,

I just found time to listen to the epic, and I really appreciate it. I might even get the album from iTunes later on (I'll have to reopen my long closed account there...).

What I hear is a very interesting mix (Guigo already mentioned eclectic) of different styles, backed by good musicianship. Keep it up - adding the harpist will be an interesting touch. Ever heard of Joanna Newsom from Canada - check her out if you haven't yet.

If, or maybe rather when, I get the album, I'll post a full review here.


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http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]


Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 15:56
Moved!
 
I suggest the Eclectic Team (and others too) to listen to this band... Thumbs%20Up


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 13:18
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Hi Chris,

I just found time to listen to the epic, and I really appreciate it. I might even get the album from iTunes later on (I'll have to reopen my long closed account there...).

What I hear is a very interesting mix (Guigo already mentioned eclectic) of different styles, backed by good musicianship. Keep it up - adding the harpist will be an interesting touch. Ever heard of Joanna Newsom from Canada - check her out if you haven't yet.

If, or maybe rather when, I get the album, I'll post a full review here.
 
I love Joanna Newsom! I actually shared her with our harpist, but she can't stand her voice. It's a taste that must be acquired for sure.
 
Also, thanks for listening and providing us with some feedback!
 
Oh, and I'm sorry guys, but we removed movements III and IV from the MySpace for the time being and replaced them with a 12-minute sound/percussion improvisation from the studio sessions. We used bits of that for the intro to our album. Enjoy!


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 17 2007 at 20:42
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Moved!
 
I suggest the Eclectic Team (and others too) to listen to this band... Thumbs%20Up


Thanks, noticed that before (and had started listening but my computer was running slow).  Thanks to Angelo for the reminder.  Listening now.


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 07:16
Looks like Centaur Radio have been rejected by the Eclectic team. Tough luck, but still great music.

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I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 14:26
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Looks like Centaur Radio have been rejected by the Eclectic team. Tough luck, but still great music.
 
Well first of all, they haven't even got the name right. And according to my source, there's only been one rejection vote thus far by the team. Still, not quite sure how it could be deemed anything other than progressive rock.


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 15:01
Errrm... the name was my mistake, I type to much and too fast Embarrassed

What genre would you put yourselves in? There's more teams than just eclectic after all...


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http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 15:09
Well according to your "source" there's one rejection, but since Eclectic is (currently) made of two collaborators who discuss a band together, I can tell you there's a second vote of rejection. Wink

I know we all have bands that blow us away, but, to be really honestly, Centaur Radio have a long list of influences, it seems like a joke (to not say a mockery, since it's not useful at all) made to have the myspace domain interesting, whilst the music, while experimental and fuzzy, is of an inferior quality.

That's what I can tell you, as collaborator.


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 16:10

Haha, well we have prog, indie, jazz, classical, and more influences, which all in some way or another play a role in what we write and play. Sure some influences stand out more than others, and we were going to rearrange the list to reflect that, but we all listen to a lot of different music, so we put all of it up there. Then we added some more as somewhat of a joke, but why does that make any difference in who the band is? And why is a band not allowed to make jokes?

Now, I know the recording might be of a slightly inferior quality, but where is the musicianship or songwriting "inferior?" I'm not trying to create an argument, and I am by no means arrogant; we are a young band with some development left to do. But many aspects of prog music are already present: odd times, uncommon instruments, soundscapes, long, multi-movement songs, multiple key/mode changes, unpredictability, overall technical drum/bass/guitar work, etc. Surely you had to have listened to our actual songs (i.e. "Sparta") and not just the noise/percussion improvisation clips we put up.

It's all there. And, even if it's not among the ranks of the elites quite yet, that still doesn't mean it is not prog rock music. The quality of the music does not determine what type of music it is. Now, maybe "eclectic prog" isn't the specific subgenre we should be in right now, but maybe somewhere else?
 
And, to get this straigtened out the second word is RODEO, not RADIO.


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 16:21
Well, I just read more carefully the posts, and noticed you're a member of the band. I probably wouldn't have said a thing like "inferior quality", but moreover suggested that it has a fair amount of qualities, but also rough ones.

Sorry for the "joke/mockery" as well. I definitely take those words back, I shouldn't be a person that tells you how to present your band's values or curiosities.

The idea is that I think of several artists that state a lot of influences, but only sound like a couple of those. Your list, I have to tell you honestly, is humongous and of no help, even for an "eclectic rock" suggestion. You mentioned you just put the bands (and personality, cause "Jesus" is obviously not a band Confused) you and your friends listen to. That's fairly not what "influences" should mean, especially if your music rather suggests a totally different sound.

Regarding the music, since you do a lot of experiments and have a rather grungy/alternative charisma in the hard rock parts,  I'd suggest Post-Rock. It's a thought, there's a chance...


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 16:33

Well I still don't see how the list plays that important of a role in something like this. One can simply listen to the music and figure out where some of it came from. However, I also believe that everything you listen to regularly has in some way or another influenced your writing or performing, which is partially why all of those names are there. I know some of the other guys in the band took the list a little too far when they added some music that clearly is not fitting just for the sake of the joke, but I'm not going to make a fuss about something so trivial.

Now, as far as Jesus goes. Clearly he is not a band, but if you've not noticed, he is part of a second group of influences, all of whom have nothing to do with music. They are people in our lives or authors or actors who have played a role in our lyrics.
 
As far as where we belong, We are definitely moving in a post-rock direction with our writing as of late, but we aren't going to play any of it until we finish the current project which is an instrumental piece that involves a lot of avant-garde stylings and is extremely technical. This is where the term "eclectic" would really be most fitting. Now, this first album, despite the noises and genre-fusing is rather modern and could be "crossover." Either way, in the most humble way possible, I do feel our music has a place here somewhere.


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 15:27
Missed a bit of interaction here (and a bit of painful interaction as well so it seems Confused).
I'm proposing you to dark master Dean on Crossover, and probably to the Post-rock team as well. Thumbs%20Up


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 28 2007 at 20:49
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

 
As far as where we belong, We are definitely moving in a post-rock direction with our writing as of late, but we aren't going to play any of it until we finish the current project which is an instrumental piece that involves a lot of avant-garde stylings and is extremely technical. This is where the term "eclectic" would really be most fitting. Now, this first album, despite the noises and genre-fusing is rather modern and could be "crossover." Either way, in the most humble way possible, I do feel our music has a place here somewhere.


Xover looked at this... and didn't think it quite fit... and but we talked long and hard about it.  We're sitting on this... pending future developments with your group, and other subs.

edit... to your point in bold.... I agree.. which is why we are not rejecting... just sitting on it. Just to clarify.


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 07:15
I left your name at the Post-Rock team as well now - given your latest comments about the way your music is developing.

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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 15:35
Haha, let's try Heavy Prog next!
 
Angelo, I really appreciate your help here. Thanks.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 16:06
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Haha, let's try Heavy Prog next!
 
Angelo, I really appreciate your help here. Thanks.


hahhah.... and if heavy doesn't work.... how about Jazz Fusion... notice you had Brubeck as an influence LOL


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 16:07
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Haha, let's try Heavy Prog next!
 
Angelo, I really appreciate your help here. Thanks.


hahhah.... and if heavy doesn't work.... how about Jazz Fusion... notice you had Brubeck as an influence LOL
 
Hahaha, that's right! Great idea.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 29 2007 at 16:13
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Haha, let's try Heavy Prog next!
 
Angelo, I really appreciate your help here. Thanks.


hahhah.... and if heavy doesn't work.... how about Jazz Fusion... notice you had Brubeck as an influence LOL
 
Hahaha, that's right! Great idea.


Wink


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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 15 2008 at 19:10
I'm not trying to go against the members of the Eclectic Team, but they definitely are Art Rock material and there isn't a better place for them in the Art Rock categories than Eclectic.

Here's my thoughts one them:
- They aren't really crossover since there isn't really much "popular" music in them to be considered as crossover.
- They aren't really Post-Rock since they clearly don't have the qualities of a post-rock band like minimalism, crescendos, the simple instrumentation. Instead they have all the qualities I see in modern prog bands like epics, technicality, odd times, "multi-movement songs".

I wouldn't really recommend them to the Heavy Prog team since the heaviness isn't really the main attraction in their music and they use it sparingly like many modern prog bands. But if all else fails they may have a shot in there.

So I politely ask the Eclectic team to reconsider their decision and to listen to their music again without paying much attention to their influences or that improvisation track.



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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 15 2008 at 22:07
I listened to the songs and I think eclectic is the best fit for them. I think the music is undeniably progressive first of all, and thus does belong here. Being that I think it belongs here, it's then a matter of finding out where, so as to help anyone looking for them or similar artists to them.
Looking at the list of influences and listening to the music and arrangement of instruments, I think eclectic is a perfect fit. They have a wide variety of music and compose songs using many different instruments and blending several styles, the very definition of eclectic.
anyway, good music nonetheless, and i think in some form Centaur Rodeo surely belongs on this site.


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 15:55
Things are moving... now let's see if the teams can make up their minds Wink

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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 21:50

So if we reorganize our influences list will you reconsider us, Ricochet?



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 21:53
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

So if we reorganize our influences list will you reconsider us, Ricochet?



yes...  eclectic will reconsider...


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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 22:03

I have been listening to Tongues of Flame quite a bit this week and really dig it.

It's almost prog metal if you ask me.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 16 2008 at 22:06
if you want a crack at it Jody.... they are yours.. otherwise Greg and I will take another listen to it for eclectic.

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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 11:38
Well?

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I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 11:45
^ if that is to me Angelo... waiting to see if the PMT takes it... if not.. eclectic will take another listen. We have already eval'd once.  

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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 15:42
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

So if we reorganize our influences list will you reconsider us, Ricochet?



It ultimately has nothing to do with your influences list, M., I hope that, in the end, you can understand my rejection was based on music. The influence note I've made was simply an appreciating one, but we're not making judgments over influences when it comes to finding the prog qualities in a band and its music.


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 15:53
Micky: it was a general comment, since the discussion seemed to be stalled Wink

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http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 15:27
In the case that anyone is interested, we have made an instrumental version of our album, and I've posted Sparta movements II and V on our MySpace page for the time being.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 15:41
always interested.. taking a listen...

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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 16:01
^I appreciate that.
 
I should also have mentioned that the album has been remixed as well. We think it sounds much better.
 
I added the rest of "Sparta" and the song "To Trust Is Sometimes to Surrender" as well.
 
Now, despite several requests for The Definitive Tongues of Flame, an electronic/dance/techno remix of the album, we're moving on to new material. It's more of a fusion of post-rock/metal and tech-rock/metal and we're really excited for it. We're an instrumental band now, and we should be debuting this new material at some shows in the upcoming months, maybe getting a demo put together as well.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 17:42
Chris.. .I did like what you did there.. good stuff Clap  Keep us informed on what you are are doing...

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