Montreal Prog Fest, September 2007
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Topic: Montreal Prog Fest, September 2007
Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Subject: Montreal Prog Fest, September 2007
Date Posted: September 20 2007 at 21:44
The Montreal Prog.fest was a great success last week end. There were eight bands that came to play for us on saturday and sunday. On friday, it was the pre-festival with Karcius,Quartick and Capharnaüm, three young and promises rock formation.
I attended all the shows on saturday and sunday. On saturday; Jelly Fish ( Quebec), Miriodor ( Quebec), Samla Mammas Manna ( Sweden) and the Strawbs ( England).
About JELLY FISH: a new band from the Province of Quebec. This band is mixing psychadelic music, jazz fusion, and progressive rock. It's very theatrical with the ambiance and the costumes. It was very poetic and the singer, Syd, has a great voice. The band 'songs are something like 10 or 15 minutes long with a theme, an ambiance, with many tempo variations; sometimes it's jazzy, sometimes it's pop, sometimes it's rock, and progressive. A good mix. A nice band with full of energy to begin this festival.
MIRIODOR again Miriodor gave a very nice performance. They did not hesitate to presence us something like 4 new music pieces of their coming album. They began their show with "Le Mille Pattes" ( the carterpillar ) my favorite from "Les Termites". They played some pieces from Mekano also. No violin this time, but Marie-Chantal on the saxophone, and clarinet was there to slow down a bit the usual very fast tempo of Miriodor music. Their music is very surprising sometimes, and we never know if a pieces is really finished...
Around seven , after a quick lunch, SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA from Sweden came to present us their music. I did not know them at all. This progressive formation does what they call: Rock in Opposition ( maybe what we used to call in the seventies in my Province, de L'Anti Rock). They are very good musicians. They just have to look at the others and play and improvise. They like to improvise a lot and they also like to have fun on stage. So, between the songs, they like to fool around. What is strange and fun, is that their drummer is coming from Tokyo. His name is Tatsuya Yoshida and he is very good and he is fitting quite well with this strange but very talented and generous band.
On Saturday evening around 10, it was time for THE STRAWBS with their symphonic folk rock. For me, it was the same voice, the same music that I was listening too during the seventies. Yes, the Strawbs were playing regulary on the rock radiio station in Montreal. My favorites that they played on saturday night; Automn, and of course Hero and Heroïne. Dave Lambert, their electric guitarist , sang a rock and roll tune also. So, for the Strawbs, it was a nice evening, mixed with some folk, some rock, and progressive music and memorable songs. A very nostalgic evening who gave some shivers to some people in the audience. ( I am sure...).
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:30
DAY 2; ON SUNDAY.
At 13 h 30: HAMADRYAD, a rock symphonic progressive band from the province of Quebec. I liked their sound, their drummer, their guitarist , the keyboardist. Their bassist , a very nice bassist, is the singer. Unfortunatly, I don't think that he fits in a rock progressive band at all. He is more a singer for a metal band or rock band. A Van Hallen type of singer. Like we say in french: il n'a pas rap... Even if their musicians are talented for most, ( excellent keyboardist ...), I don't think that they have a great musicianship. I think that Karcius are better for the musicianship. ( I saw Karcius last year, and I loved it...). Their performance was ok, but that's all...
LE VILLE ÉMARD BLUES BAND, with his 14 musicians, and singer and chorists gave a nostalgic show for those who were there in the seventies. It was blues of course, some world beat with their huge hit "Yamanech!, but also some intensive rock progressive music. They surprised me a lot because at first we were thinking what this group have to do with progressive music. We found out and we were satisfied. A big party.
NATHAN MAHL; after the quick lunch, this group from Ontario and Québec came to play for us. I liked it because this group is more keyboards oriented. Their keyboardist Guy Leblanc is excellent. While other groups had something like one or two keyboards, Lebland surrounded himself with something like 5 or 6 different keyboards. He can make a lot of different sounds like Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson. So, with this group, I was really satisfied; it was about time to have a more keyboards oriented show. Guy Leblanc played several years with Camel from 2000 to 2003.
FINALLY, IQ; ( pour le dessert). IQ played for us for more than 2 h 30 and they gave 3 encores. They were very generous. It was a special show for them because it was the last time after 26 years in the group that their keyboardist Martin Orford were playing with IQ. IQ is very professionnal with a lot of musicianship, a lot of talent, generosity and a lot of class. I did not really know this progressive rock symphonic from the eighties, except maybe that I listened some of their music on My.Space.
Actually, I think that they can be as good even better than Genesis who just repeat their success night after night. IQ show gave me more satisfaction in a certain way than Genesis. First, I was sitting in first row in the middle. The sound was better. The musicians played with a lot of energy. ( I did not see this kind of energy or effort from Tony Banks of Genesis last friday). On IQ show, on the other hand, everybody was giving everything. Their music is complexed, but also very melodic. Their singer knows how to sing ( nice voice), and he can speak french ( better than Phil ...).IQ had a sophisticated play of lights combined with videos ( 3 screens) behind. Their music is everything that we want in a progressive group; long pieces of music, long songs, thematic ( topics like geo-politics,), spacy ambiance, many variations, sometimes melodic, sometimes powerfull, all this combined with many different emotions rendered very well by Peter Nicholls. It was a great evening of progressive music. It was almost 1 a.m when they left the stage.
What a surprise near the end; MUSICAL BOX singer, Denis Gagné, came on stage to sing with Nicholls. Those two are friends for several years now. It was one of the great moment of the festival.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:46
This year our festival was good, and I must say much better than last year. The hall was situated in the french quarter just on the corner of St-Denis street near the University. A great place for progressive music. Behind the hall, a great garden for us only with a small water fall to discuss music between shows. Plenty of restaurants , cafes and bistros around.
I met BERN from prog.archives. Finally, I could put a face on him. Very nice guy,much younger than me,. We discussed a lot on saturday night and also with Rémi Leclerc, Miriodor 's drummer.
I finally met my friend on my.space,, Mr. Dave Lambert from the Strawbs. I met all Karcius members ( very cute, classy and nice guys...). I met a Mexican producers and we went to eat to a Mexican restaurants. I practiced a little bit my spanish.
Of course, I met Robert Dansereau, one of the organiser of this festival. It was a great festival. We already want to know what will happen next year, who will come etc...
Is that correct for you Vibration ?
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Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 02:43
Hi there,
What a wondeful festival it was!Great music,relaxed and friendly atmosphere and top notch organisation.
What I like about those festivals is the community type of vibes that emanates throughout.All week end long we could chat with prog industry peoples;musicians,record labels owners,promoters and most importantly enthusiastic fans.It's like a pilgrimage where all ''devotees'' meet and share common love for common tastes(PROG!).
My favorites were Ville-Émard Blues Band,IQ and The Strawbs but all bands gave us a taste of their own brand of prog be it RIO,Neo,Symphonic,psych,folk,jazzy,ect...
Quite an eclectic bunch of bands.Kudos to the promoters(Sean Macfee,Stephen Takacsy,Robert Dansereau and Michel St-Pere) for such variety.
The location was perfect.Modern,clean,coazy and the staff very accomodating and charming(not to mention cute hostesses!)
I had the privilege to talk and shake hands with some of my idols:Maneiges' Yves Leonard,Jerome and Vincent Langlois,Gilles Shetagne,Alain Bergeron as well as Michel Séguin of Toubabou,Ville-Émard Blues Band and Guy Leblanc.
Let's hope they make it an annual event,Montreal deserves to have it's own prog fest.!
------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 11:36
It was like a family reunion!
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 20:21
Some pictures of IQ. It was difficult to take pictures. I did not have my Olympus camera for the festival and sometimes the lightning was defficient. Anyway, enjoyed them. Look at the back ground; stange videos.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 20:24
This is Nathan Mall keybordist. I liked his playing very much. This guy played for Camel from 2000 t0 2003.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 20:26
Jelly Fish singer; some theater with the music. Nice voice.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 20:28
Jelly Fish ' guitarist Jean François Arsenault.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 20:31
Some pictures of Hamadryad. Look at the double neck.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 20:33
Rémi Leclerc, Miriodor drummer.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 20:36
Samla Mammas Mann. Lars Hollmer on the keyboard. Lars came to play a piece with Miriodor in the afternoon.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 22:22
Hi Sylvie,
Sounds and looks like it was a great festival. Thanks for posting the pics and impressions of yours here!
I would have loved to meet the band members myself as well, I'm interested to listen to what they have to say about their and other band's music.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 23:38
Sylvie, when I saw the announcement in these pages re : this festival, I thought I had one of my friends thoroughly convinced for a road trip (I live in New Brunswick) to go see the Strawbs. Unfortunately, the PEI concert from Aerosmith took up his concert budget (last time for Charlottetown, he regretted his VIP tickets). Especially as IQ were playing Sunday. If it wasn't for the festival being put back a day because of the Genesis concert Friday night, I think I had my wife sold on the idea of coming down to see IQ on the previously scheduled Saturday night. As soon as you hear about next year's plans ( I'm hoping big time), please let us know. The past history suggests that this will just get better. And it seems the organizers have a good head when it comes to picking the artists. Hey , maybe, just maybe, Vibration Baby will pick a show he likes, eh I don't suppose you have the setlist for the Strawbs. I just want to go back & see how much I can get my friend to regret his going to Aerosmith instead Oh, and if you can give me the general set list that IQ played, I'll settle for programming my CD player and sitting back. I do have a good Stereo ( and sometimes good meds, wink wink, nudge nudge) and a great imagination. Hey, I don't suppose the organizers have considered putting out a DVD set of the weekend's highlights. I can tell you that the Straws acoustic DVD for that show in Toronto has made quite the impression with a gang of my old friends.
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Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 01:34
Thanks Sylvie for posting those nice pics.
Those who missed out the fest and are considering attending any upcoming event,do yourself a favor and reserv mid september week-end 2008.Don't take any chances,tell your friends and family that you will be available all remaining 362 days but those two mid september days will be devoted to the 3rd annual FMPM!
I mean,Montreal is a geogeous city with nice folks,nice weather,good food,restos,bars,cafés,stores,ect....and the Pierre Peladeau Hall is a very beautiful and comfortable theater accessible by subway right in the very midle of Montreal's busy yet unrushed downtown core,with many affordable hotels just a few steps away.
The festival organisers are a bunch of nice and devoted prog fans(like most of us) and they give their 100% to make you happy by picking some of the finest and best bands under the wide progressive umbrella.Besides,vendors also seem to be customer-friendly by selling their stuff at affordable prices(I snatch a bunch of great CDs for as low as 5- 10-15$)
It can't be better than that.
I'm already eagerly awaiting next years' fest!
------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop"
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 15:20
Thanks guys for the kind words. As soon as I know something about next year festival, I will let you know. About the Strawbs set lists; I really don't know but let me check.
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 14:04
great compte rendu Sylvie,I would surely like to come for the next edition to see 'Montreal' again not obligatory dans un grand Bœing bleu de mer...
PS I am just reading "La Nuit Des Princes Charmants" de Michel Tremblay....a nice way to get back to the Montreal athmosphère
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 14:15
Thanks Alucard
Merci!
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Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 15:13
What a tough it was for us on that show....(I'm the keyboard player of Hamadryad)
The sound on stage was plain sh*t....I was destroying my ears with my organs and when strings was on...no sound...plain sh*t!
Anyway, we did what we could with what we had and perform at our max
(By the people I met and cds we sold after the show...I guess the
performance wasn't that bad after all, that was the best part of the
show....the aftershow at our merch table meeting people!!)
PS: Our singer sings like if he was in a rock band because we ARE a rock band!
PPS: The drummer of Salma is only there since 2002....he is the
foundater of the Avant-garde band Ruins witch I saw the thursday before
the festival!!!
Salma is today only a pale comparision of what Ruins and that drummer can do!
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 17:12
Inferno, your show was good. I enjoyed myself watching it. About the singer, it's my personnal opinion, that's all. Everybody can have their own taste about something. I enjoyed your keyboard playing very much.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 17:15
I wanted to go at your table, but there was too many people... I went outside walking in the sun instead. Maybe see you next time.
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Posted By: nasti
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 02:24
Nice pictures, thank you Prog.Sylvie...
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 18:37
Thanks Nasti.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 02 2007 at 10:58
Nice pictures. Seriously. I can`t believe they allowed cameras into this thing. BUT. There`s always a but. I still think these festivals are an engine to generate money. That`s part of the reason I don`t participate. Even if I had free tickets I doubt I would have gone. I find the music of these bands unlistenable, non-descript and would even go as far to say that, with the exception of the Strawbs are not prog as I see it. Even from what I`ve seen of their recent performances on youtube they are not what they were but, I wasn`t there so I can`t criticize their performance or that of any of the other participating bands at this Montréal prog event.
As far as I`m concerned, and I`m not alone, prog died somewhere between 1975 and 1977 and fortunately many of the recordings from that era are still available and I own just about everything I need. It`s also great that lost recordings are being released from time to time.
As for going to see concerts I have seen my fair share during my teens and early 20s. I feel I`ve grown out of them and find them increasingly expensive and tedious. Nowadays I have other things to do with my time and money rather than sitting in a clausrophobic venue such as working on and flying my plane, going on day trips to the Eastern Townships or having a barbecue on Mount Royal with my wife and dogs. I guess I`ve mellowed out in my old age ( I`m 45 ). If I want to see a concert I`ll go out and buy the DVD. That`s good enough for me although I`ve got tickets for Jethro Tull and John McLaughlin in November because it will probably be the last opportunity I get to see them, but they`re my swan song as far as shows go.
Don`t attack me because I have an opinion and once again nice photos and I`m glad that everyone enjoyed themselves. Just not my thing anymore.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 02 2007 at 12:22
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Nice pictures. Seriously. I can`t believe they allowed cameras into this thing. BUT. There`s always a but. I still think these festivals are an engine to generate money. That`s part of the reason I don`t participate. Even if I had free tickets I doubt I would have gone. I find the music of these bands unlistenable, non-descript and would even go as far to say that, with the exception of the Strawbs are not prog as I see it. Even from what I`ve seen of their recent performances on youtube they are not what they were but, I wasn`t there so I can`t criticize their performance or that of any of the other participating bands at this Montréal prog event.
As far as I`m concerned, and I`m not alone, prog died somewhere between 1975 and 1977 and fortunately many of the recordings from that era are still available and I own just about everything I need. It`s also great that lost recordings are being released from time to time.
As for going to see concerts I have seen my fair share during my teens and early 20s. I feel I`ve grown out of them and find them increasingly expensive and tedious. Nowadays I have other things to do with my time and money rather than sitting in a clausrophobic venue such as working on and flying my plane, going on day trips to the Eastern Townships or having a barbecue on Mount Royal with my wife and dogs. I guess I`ve mellowed out in my old age ( I`m 45 ). If I want to see a concert I`ll go out and buy the DVD. That`s good enough for me although I`ve got tickets for Jethro Tull and John McLaughlin in November because it will probably be the last opportunity I get to see them, but they`re my swan song as far as shows go.
Don`t attack me because I have an opinion and once again nice photos and I`m glad that everyone enjoyed themselves. Just not my thing anymore.
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Despite some disagreements in the past VB, I can say that I feel the same way about concerts in general. I'm also 45, have a wife two dogs & a lovely daughter. SO there are many activities that take precedence over what can be a rather expensive proposition. I would have loved to see the Strawbs & IQ. The rest held some interest, but they would have the so-called "gravy". Too bad more of our generation don't feel the same way. Then maybe the major acts touting might have to make their prices "reasonable". Though if you read about the aftermarket (i.e. scalpers or resellers such as Stubhub), I can see why a musical group would see the necessity of charging X amount if they know the resellers will buy up the tickets only to offer them afterwards at a much higher price. Ah, the wonders of modern technology. Although this is not prog, my daughter is a big fan of Hannah Montana. I've been reading that the concert tickets in the States are selling out within less than an hour after of being available. UNfortunately, most are not being bought by the fans. So websites are already offering them, in one case , at over $2000 for a front row seat. Yet the actual price charged by the venue is just over $100. SO now as we may be approaching a time when the record company leeches are on their last legs, we now face another species of money grabbers - the "resellers". Hoping that the promoters & acts find some way of ensuring the fan gets first & best chance at getting tickets to see them at reasonable prices. As you say VB, and may remember the priceless memories of seeing your idols in (y)our younger days. It's something I wish my daughter gets the chance too, as she grows up.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 02 2007 at 15:58
I agree with you with the younger generation to be able to experience their favourite bands just as we did but, as you pointed out it`s just getting to be such an expensive proposition. We`ve got to eat, pay bills and take care of loved ones first. Hell, my two dogs alone run me over $10,000 per year exluding incidentals such as vet bills. One of them got hit by a car a couple of years ago and it was either put him down or pay a few thousand $ and of course I chose the latter. I `ve been going through my ticket stubs and checking the prices for some concerts. April Wine( Harder Faster tour ) & Johnny Winter $6.50 in `78. King Crimson $12.50 General admission at the Spectrum in `82. Jean Luc Ponty and Supertramp in Jarry Park in `79 10.00 and so on. I saw a scalper at the Genesis concert asking $800 for single tickets! Just ain`t worth it.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: October 02 2007 at 16:09
For the prog.fest, when you pay for the gold ticket, it's about 20.00 $ per concert plus a party after . If you have a regular ticket , it's something like 10 .00 $ per concert. So, a prog.fest aloud you to see good concerts for not much money each.
This year, Porcupine Tree was only 25.00 $ per ticket, so not expensive at all to see PT.
I will go see Jethro Tull in november. I don't care to spend money on his concert because I know that Ian Anderson is very good, he is very generous and I like JT music very much.
I don't care to spend something like between 500.00 $ to 1,000.00 $ per year for two people ( my husband and I) to see good concerts and to see artists that we like.
For Genesis, we sat upstairs in the stadium because we thought that It was not worthing to pay more than 77.00 $ each to see them. I think that the concert was very good, but we were ok seating in the 400. I would not have paid much.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 02 2007 at 16:41
I`ll be the guy with the two handsome dogs at the JT concert. They wouldn`t let them into the Genesis concert because they didn`t have tickets.Too bad they have to have it at a crap venue. PDA isn`t that great for rock shows. I saw Crimson there a few years back and the sound was too compressed. But then again these guys play friggin`loud.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 02 2007 at 18:11
Prog.Sylvie wrote:
For the prog.fest, when you pay for the gold ticket, it's about 20.00 $ per concert plus a party after . If you have a regular ticket , it's something like 10 .00 $ per concert. So, a prog.fest aloud you to see good concerts for not much money each.
This year, Porcupine Tree was only 25.00 $ per ticket, so not expensive at all to see PT.
I will go see Jethro Tull in november. I don't care to spend money on his concert because I know that Ian Anderson is very good, he is very generous and I like JT music very much.
I don't care to spend something like between 500.00 $ to 1,000.00 $ per year for two people ( my husband and I) to see good concerts and to see artists that we like.
For Genesis, we sat upstairs in the stadium because we thought that It was not worthing to pay more than 77.00 $ each to see them. I think that the concert was very good, but we were ok seating in the 400. I would not have paid much.
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I thought that the VIP package was a great deal. At least until the festival was backed up by a day so to not compete with the Genesis concert. Part of the attraction was seeing the Strawbs one night & IQ the next night. The other groups held some interest, but not enough to draw me in. But a Sunday night concert when you're looking at a nine hour drive home is not too appealing. Oh well, better luck next year. I've got my eyes peeled open for any clue as to the 2008 line-up.
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