I do not have the resources to send the people who make this wonderful sight the pics of album covers, bio, mp3's, etc.  Nor do I have the time.  Please some get this great band into the archives.

Les Claypool is God.

ARGH! I already know i dont really like Primus, but ive seen the topic about wether or not they are prog so much that I have to form my own opinion now! By tomorrow I'll probably own three albums!

Hangedman wrote: ARGH! I already know i dont really like Primus, but ive seen the topic about wether or not they are prog so much that I have to form my own opinion now! By tomorrow I'll probably own three albums!

Definately get:

Sailing The Seas Of Cheese

Pork Soda

One of there covers albums, they both have a Peter Gabriel song on them: "The Family and the Fishing Net" and "The Intruder".

I do agree with all of you. Primus has released quasi-progressive efforts, i.e "Seas of Cheese, Pork Soda". I could see them being added. I would be willing to write the biography full-heartedly.

I dont think they are exactly prog (i just finished listening to pork soda as I type this) they have progressive elements, and I have grown to like them. Just hate the covers.

Hangedman wrote: I dont think they are exactly prog (i just finished listening to pork soda as I type this) they have progressive elements, and I have grown to like them. Just hate the covers.

So you purchased the albums I suggested?  "The Intruder" is good!!! So is "Have A Cigar", it doesn't suck like Korn's cover they did.  You have sailing The Seas Of Cheese? GOOD STUFF  Get the DVD.  I said get it.

Wizard/TRueStar wrote: Hangedman wrote: I dont think they are exactly prog (i just finished listening to pork soda as I type this) they have progressive elements, and I have grown to like them. Just hate the covers. So you purchased the albums I suggested?  "The Intruder" is good!!! So is "Have A Cigar", it doesn't suck like Korn's cover they did.  You have sailing The Seas Of Cheese? GOOD STUFF  Get the DVD.  I said get it.

It's a damn good DVD I must say.

Wizard/TRueStar wrote: Hangedman wrote: I dont think they are exactly prog (i just finished listening to pork soda as I type this) they have progressive elements, and I have grown to like them. Just hate the covers. So you purchased the albums I suggested?  "The Intruder" is good!!! So is "Have A Cigar", it doesn't suck like Korn's cover they did.  You have sailing The Seas Of Cheese? GOOD STUFF  Get the DVD.  I said get it.

If i can find it cheap i  just may get the dvd.

I think Primus are a great band, Les Claypool is a superb muso but................... the band aint prog.

You know.......... Les Claypool once auditioned for Metallica, they refused him as he would have shown up the guitarists lol.

clemdallaway wrote: You know.......... Les Claypool once auditioned for Metallica, they refused him as he would have shown up the guitarists lol.

On a similar note, have you heard any of Blind Illusion's songs? Not as good as it should be.

clemdallaway wrote: I think Primus are a great band, Les Claypool is a superb muso but................... the band aint prog. You know.......... Les Claypool once auditioned for Metallica, they refused him as he would have shown up the guitarists lol.

Could you imagine Metallica mixed with Claypool bass?

Hangedman wrote: Wizard/TRueStar wrote: Hangedman wrote: I dont think they are exactly prog (i just finished listening to pork soda as I type this) they have progressive elements, and I have grown to like them. Just hate the covers. So you purchased the albums I suggested?  "The Intruder" is good!!! So is "Have A Cigar", it doesn't suck like Korn's cover they did.  You have sailing The Seas Of Cheese? GOOD STUFF  Get the DVD.  I said get it. If i can find it cheap i  just may get the dvd.

I got it really cheap... here in the states it's about $10, I don't know how much that would be in Canada.

I can see a certain amount of "progginess" in their music. If they were added, I don't know what sub-genre they would go under. They might have to create a new one--psycho-funk-prog or something. I loved this band back in the 90's, and I saw them open for Rush a couple times. They were a fantastic live band!

I'm probably in the minority here, but I thought Tales From The Punchbowl was far and away their best album, cover to cover.

Those bass lines are pretty sick....

JrKASperov wrote: They are far too repetitive to be prog.

I have to disagree. It might sound repetitive just as Yes or Genesis would be repetitive for someone that has not given the time to fully understand it, that in the end does not get it.

Primus might not be straight prog band. of course, Primus most notable caracteristic would be their "out of the way" style. However, in escense this band is really close to what progressive rock is. Begining with the direct influences, they have at first place King Crimson. Albums like Dicipline are the bases of Primus music and style. Rush, as well is one of the most important influences. Primus since the begining, played live rush's songs like YYZ among others. In the other hand, they have really weird melody lines and really complex timing lines, one of the, lets say, ways you can identify prog rock. Songs like "eleven", having a 11/8 time signature, something that I've never seen in any band before;  "year of the parrot", with a 7/4 switching to straight 4/4 continiously; and "here come the bastards" in 5/4 among others, show clearely Primus rythmic complexity. For these reasons, i think Primus deserves a place in this website.

Primussucks !!!

I do believe in captain crunch

For I am the frizzle fry

(Primus isn't really prog... they don't quite qualify)

I always catch a bit of a 90's KC influence to their music.

alan_pfeifer wrote: I always catch a bit of a 90's KC influence to their music.

Yeah. My friend actually told me they did an amazing cover of Thela Hun Ginjeet.

They've also done Roundabout and YYZ I think, and probably lots more

They cover Roundabout?  That'd be great to hear!

• Long compositions, sometimes running over 20 minutes, with intricate melodies and harmonies that require repeated listening to grasp. These are often described as epics and are the genre's clearest nod to classical music. An early example is the 23-minute "Echoes" by Pink Floyd. Other famous examples include Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick" (43 minutes), Yes' "Close to the Edge" (18 minutes) and Genesis' "Supper's Ready" (23 minutes). More recent extreme examples are the 60-minute "Light of Day, Day of Darkness" by Green Carnation and "Garden of Dreams" by The Flower Kings.
• Lyrics that convey intricate and sometimes impenetrable narratives, covering such themes as science fiction, fantasy, history, religion, war, love, and madness. Many early 1970s progressive rock bands (especially German ones) featured lyrics concerned with left-wing politics and social issues.
• Concept albums, in which a theme or storyline is explored throughout an entire album in a manner similar to a film or a play. In the days of vinyl, these were usually two-record sets with strikingly designed gatefold sleeves. Famous examples include The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway by Genesis, Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes, 2112 by Rush, Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall by Pink Floyd, and the more recent Metropolis Part II: Scenes from a Memory by Dream Theater and Snow by Spock's Beard. Aqualung, perhaps the best-known record by Jethro Tull, is often regarded as a concept album due to its recurring themes, but songwriter Ian Anderson has always claimed that the album is just "a bunch of songs".
• Unusual vocal styles and use of multi-part vocal harmonies. See Magma, Robert Wyatt, and Gentle Giant.
• Prominent use of electronic instrumentation — particularly keyboard instruments such as the organ, piano, Mellotron, and Moog synthesizer, in addition to the usual rock combination of electric guitar, bass and drums.
• Use of unusual time signatures, scales, or tunings. Many pieces use multiple time signatures and/or tempi, sometimes concurrently. Solo passages for virtually every instrument, designed to showcase the virtuosity of the player. This is the sort of thing that contributed to the fame of such performers as keyboardist Rick Wakeman and drummer Neil Peart.
• Inclusion of classical pieces on albums. For example, Yes start their concerts with a taped extract of Stravinsky's Firebird suite, and Emerson Lake and Palmer have performed arrangements of pieces by Copland, Bartók, Moussorgsky, Prokofiev, Janacek, Alberto Ginastera, and often feature quotes from J. S. Bach in lead breaks. Jethro Tull recorded a famous cover of J. S. Bach's "Bouree", in which they turned the classical piece into a "sleazy jazzy night-club song", according to Ian Anderson. Marillion started concerts with Rossini's La Gazza Ladra (The Thieving Magpie). Symphony X has included parts by, or inspired by, Beethoven, Holst and Mozart.
• An aesthetic linking the music with visual art, a trend started by The Beatles with Sgt. Pepper's and enthusiastically embraced during the prog heyday. Some bands became as well-known for the art direction of their albums as for their sound, with the "look" integrated into the band's overall musical identity. This led to fame for particular artists and design studios, most notably Roger Dean, whose paintings and logo design for Yes are so essential to the band's identity they could be said to serve the same function as corporate branding. Hipgnosis became equally famous for their unusual sleeves for Pink Floyd, often featuring experimental photography quite innovative for the time (two men shaking hands, one of whom is in flames, on the cover of Wish You Were Here). H.R. Giger's painting for Emerson Lake and Palmer's Brain Salad Surgery is one of the most famous album sleeves ever produced.

• A piece that is subdivided into movements in the manner of a classical suite. Examples are the four-part "Close to the Edge" by Yes, six-part "Hemispheres" by Rush, and the seven-part "A Change of Seasons" by Dream Theater. All of TransAtlantic's epics are multipart.
• A piece that is composed of a patchwork of musical themes that could conceivably stand as individual songs, but together serve to relate a complete narrative through music. Examples are "Supper's Ready" on Genesis' Foxtrot (the "Willow Farm" section of which was played as a single), "A Day in the Life" on Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band by The Beatles, Jethro Tull's Aqualung from the album of the same name, and "The Gates of Delirium" on Yes's album Relayer (from which the single "Soon" was taken).
• A piece that allows the development of musical ideas via progressions or variations in the manner of a bolero or a canon. "King Kong" on Frank Zappa's Uncle Meat is an example.

People here can hardly accept Dream Theater as a prog band, and DT is a billion time progger than Primus. Primus do complex music, yes, but it not prog. They do short, heavy songs, most of the time in a pretty pop format. They do not deserve place here at all. And, god, their lyrics, song titles and album covers are so awful...

I guess that those who want them here are bass players...