innovative for their age
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Topic: innovative for their age
Posted By: rivera`s hope
Subject: innovative for their age
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 12:41
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 12:57
king crimson's red innovation of their age?.. how about mentioning in the court of the crimson king instead?!?!?!  -------------  
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 13:19
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frank zappa-peaches en regalia (duh!) |
Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 13:41
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Joren wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 14:13
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Look they were all young at the time
I vote Carl Palmers as a very young Guini i..He was so young at his prime if you like.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 14:45
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Wow, no mention of Genesis: At age 18 - 19 they were writting songs about Revolutions (The Knife) and about great authors work (White Mountain based in Jack London's White Fang) At the age of 19 - 20 they were singing about Greek Mythology (Fountain of Salmacis), Complex violence and Sci FI (Musical Box), Sarcastic views of Society (Harold the Barrel) At the Age of 20 - 21 it was the turn of Hystory (Can-Utility and the Coastliners), The Bible re interpreted (Supper's Ready), Botanics (The Return of the Giant Hogweed), etc
At the Age of 24 Peter Gabriel had already ended his career with Genesis after making a complete conceptual albuium as The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Genesis was formed by him at the age of 15 or 16 in 1966 with Anthony Phillips who was one year younger plus Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford who were several months younger. That's being innovative at a very early age. Iván
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 15:41
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Mozart ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 15:43
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So how old was carl Palmer in Crazy world of A.Brown?
Don't come with the Flaming youth sh*t ie: Phil Colllins
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 15:48
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I voted for Machine Gun by Hendrix.
I wish Hendrix would have stayed with that band because they had cooler songs, and Billy Cox is a waaaayyy better bassist than Noel Redding, in a matter of fact, Noel Redding blows at bass. 
That song was amazing, the machine gun sounds, the effects, everything. Jimi rocks. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 15:53
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Just a little confused as I'm not exactly sure who was how old when ...
went with Iron Butterfly ... which I think had a huge influence on
proggers ... I know I was blown away when i found out the average age of the guys in Free when they cut their first album Tons Of Sobs was less than 18 ... Steve Winwood wuz another one ... ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 15:54
Yeah except Iron Butterfly suck.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 16:15
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Hey Karn Evil, all the music from The Crazy world of Arthur Brown was composed and/or arranged by
Carl Palmer is not credited for any song. We're talking about the guys who created the music and/or lyrics or at least credited in the composers list, a player can be almost anyone but the task in thisthread is to CREATE, in the case of Genesis you don't see me mentioning Chris Stewart, John Mayhew or even Phil Collins because his contribution to songwritting and/or lyrics was almost non existent in the Gabriel years Just to end, and because you mention him, Phil Collins is almost exactly the same age of Carl Palmer or to be more exact 49 days older than Palmer. With the difference that almost at the same age, Palmer was only credited in two songs of ELP debut album and Collins was credited as co-author of each and every song from his debut in Genesis with Nursery Cryme. Iván
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Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 16:24
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Wasn't Peter Hammill 21 when he wrote Pawn Hearts?? ------------- "Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..." |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 16:25
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ivan_2068 wote;
We're talking about the guys who created the music and/or lyrics or at least credited in the composers list, a player can be almost anyone but the task in thisthread is to CREATE, in the case of Genesis you don't see me mentioning Chris Stewart, John Mayhew or even Phil Collins because his contribution to songwritting and/or lyrics was almost non existent in the Gabriel years Just to end, and because you mention him, Phil Collins is almost exactly the same age of Carl Palmer or to be more exact 49 days older than Palmer. Iván Ivan i know full well how old P.Collins is.I'm not so dick from the street... I don't care about credits...
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 16:28
Enough now! How old was Emerson when he contributed to this?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 16:53
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Reed lover wrote: Enough now! How old was Emerson when he contributed to this?
He was 34 years & 17 days old when this album was released..
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 16:56
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Problems with your eyesight? Look a little deeper at the picture..............
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 16:56
I going to get a copy of it aswel, it's one of their most "in your face" subtle albums ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 17:01
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Reed Lover wrote:
Problems with your eyesight? Look a little deeper at the picture..............
Not biting Reedy baby
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Posted By: benny bouncer
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 17:07
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Keith Emerson...early 20's...wrote the 'Five Bridges suite'...not only for his band but for an orchestra..gotta admit, witing for the orchestra, he did have help...but he Keith had the idea...and wrote the music, he had the vision lol....i think that was pretty good for his age
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 17:42
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benny bouncer wrote:
Keith Emerson...early 20's...wrote the 'Five Bridges suite'...not only for his band but for an orchestra..gotta admit, witing for the orchestra, he did have help...but he Keith had the idea...and wrote the music, he had the vision lol....i think that was pretty good for his age Hi Benny
Your wasting your time preaching about Keith in here..
Top & bottom ELP were the successful Prog band or the era,their all all trying to kid themselves as to the point that others were better.No prog band were as rich & succesful as ElP by the mid '70's. They were the pinnacle of success.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 17:43
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 18:47
I think they meant the age of the composition, not the composer. If not, what would FZ be doing here in the poll with his "Peaches in Regalia", or LZ with "Kashmir"? Don't go for the Karn Evil thing, my friend - now you want to see Genesis anywhere in any poll for any or no reason at all. Oh, I voted for MAGMA's debut album - a total innovation regarding the introduction of avant-garde chamber and avant-garde jazz into an avant-garde prog rock context. Regards. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 21:26
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Cesar, I don't understand waht you are talking about age of the composition, at least all the members beforeme understood it was the age of the band members that composed the music. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: February 26 2005 at 22:24
Oh, well... then the poll was ill-conceived!! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 00:07
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Maybe that's too hard, but at least I believe the choices were not the appropiate, but doesn't matters, it's only another poll as hundreeds we see everyday. Cheers Iván PS: Sorry for the language: Cesar, te llamo el miércoles que llego de Trujillo. -------------
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 07:50
| Yes - Roundabout. |