Beck v Clapton v Page v Hendrix
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Topic: Beck v Clapton v Page v Hendrix
Posted By: Progger
Subject: Beck v Clapton v Page v Hendrix
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 12:42
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I know this will get moved but I don't know if you can create a poll in the non-prog section! Anyway, five exceptional guitarists who dominated the world in the late 60's / Early 70's. But who was the master? |
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 12:44
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Beck, Clapton, Page, Hendrix & Blackmore!!!
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 12:44
| I believe Hendrix was the most influtential. I like him the most out of these anyway. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 12:47
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My favourite - Page. Most groundbreaking and possibly most creative - Hendrix . Most proficient in technique: Beck. Flawless execution: Clapton. My vote: Page. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 12:48
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Any left-handed man and woman on earth should vote for Jimi (even if I've recently discovered he used to write right-handed...) ------------- 
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 12:51
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Of those listed , Jeff Beck.
Blackmore should be on this list too.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 12:59
| Where is McLaughlin? I vote Hendrix. |
Posted By: cyberiancygnus
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 13:35
page
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 13:40
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Beck by a country mile, but a poll of prog guitarist would have been more apt. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 13:43
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Hendrix. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 14:40
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Page fits my tastes the best. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 14:50
| Hendrix will NEVER be surpassed in my eyes. |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 15:01
| Jimi Hendrix |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 15:16
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Page, he is up there with Fripp as my favorite I never really understood all the hype for Hendrix, I know he is good, groundbreaking and influential but, personally, I think the name, at least now a days, has more meaning than his playing... just a thought, doesnt mean all Hendrix fans fall under this Beck is probably the best, objectivly speaking, while Clapton always plays the same song... luckily for him, its a good one! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 15:29
Page - no doubt about it. Don't shoot, but he even beats my favourite prog guitarists! 
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Posted By: Bravo
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 16:11
| I saw Clapton live and I also love the blues so my vote goes to Eric Clapton. |
Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 17:02
| They're all obviously stunning, but the greatest inventor of style is Hendrix and he gets my vote. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 17:14
His playing has more personality - along with Jimi - than the others in the list and than most prog guitarists. However, do you think he would have done a better job for those respective prog bands, better than those less spectacular prog guitarists? I tend to doubt it, but I don't think we'll ever know. That's why he's got his own category in my tastes. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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fuxi wrote:Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 17:18
The most entertaining will always be Page for me. He made me say "damn, that's cool" or "oooh myyy goddd" the most.
Although Jimi was great at experimenting.
Jeff Beck & Eric Clapton never did much for me as guitarists, they seem kind of over-rated and wrapped-up in their own "greatness"
Pete Townshend is an excellent songcrafter/writer, but as a guitarist he's not exactly "mind-blowing", to say the least ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 17:38
Eric Clapton is renowned for humbling his own stature and rating other guitarists above him (inc. Hendrix) - he's even said that Mark Knopfler plays Lala better than him. Jeff Beck rarely says anything. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 10:28
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Jeff Beck is the only one among those guitarists that actually evolved and tried different approaches top his playing and songwriting. Jimmy Page is, in my opinion, the best songwriter of the bunch, even though he never strayed far from his style. Hendrix was Hendrix, and wether you like him or not (I don't), he had a major part in the development of rock as we know it. Clapton started off alright, but rapidly became annoying. So it's a tie between Beck and Page. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Tales
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 11:18
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If anybody watched the 'Seven Ages of Rock Programme' on the BBC, would vote for either Beck or Hendrix. Jeff Beck was a great innovator and was the first guitarist to experiment with feedback ect.
Interestingly, Hendrix only agreed to accompany Chas Chandler to England if he promised him he could meet Beck & Clapton. Clapton allowed Hendrix to jam with him at a Cream gig. Minutes into the jam Clapton walked off stage and Chas Chandler followed him to see if he was OK! He found Clapton rolling a 'spiff' and his hands shaking uncontrolaby. 'What's wrong?'' enquired Chandler. ''Is he really that good?'' replied Clapton. Hendrix had literally blew him off the stage. Even the greatest Rock band ever 'The Who' refused to go on after him at the Monteray Rock Festival, so they chose the support slot!
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 18:57
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Hendrix believed Phil Keaggy was the best guitarist of his time, so he was equally humble. He was also a great producer and creator. Great guitarist and great lyricist. I also think his singing voice was perfect. Hendrix's performance at Woodstock was mind blowing. It would be extremely interesting to see what would have happened when he and Miles Davis were supposed to get together. Page is good, but he gets wayyyy to sloppy sometimes (Heartbreaker) and his tone can be bothersome most notably on the Houses of Holy album. Clapton is also good, but I think he started his sucky period starting in 1970. You know, when he went solo and decided he would be a songwriter. His work on the John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers album is great though. Beck is good too and was very creative. He's actually my number 2 or 3 guitarist of all time, but Hendrix still takes the cake. Townshend is actually quite a good guitarist he just doesn't like to be flashy. The riff to Subtitute is absolutely brilliant. Peter Green is another guitar giant that should be on the poll. His work with John Mayal and the original (and gooood) version of Fleetwood Mac was outstanding. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 19:35
^ perfect assessment IMHO, (apart from Hendrix's singing) 
Hendrix also rated Bert Jansch v highly. Jansch has obeen called the Guitarists' Guitarist (but then so has Jeff Beck, Allan Holdsworth, Albert Lee...)
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Posted By: william314159
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 19:52
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hmmm this basically comes down to personal taste.
beck comes first, just because of his 3 fusion albums
then hendrix, solely because of electric ladyland
clapton vs. page is a toss up. i enjoy page's playing more, but i love claptons work with cream
then townsend
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 24 2007 at 12:10
The Rock documentary on Sunday night BBC 2 centred around Hendrix, reminded Hendrix came to London wanting to see Beck And Clapton. Page was a little known session guitarist (so was McLaughlin ) and doubled up as bass player for the Yardbirds. Footage in the cult movie Blowup shows the Yardbirds in action - all the camera emphasis is on Beck, blink and you'll miss Page's presence. Townshend has repeatedly calls himself a rhythm guitarist. I wouldn't agree in Clapton being wrapped up in his own greatness - he's always comes across as a humble person (reinforced by statement made during Sunday's documentary). Jeff Beck has longed been known as the guitarist who tried effects before most other guitarists - one guitarist told me mid 70's that Beck's Truth was the first album to really use the wah wah pedal extensively and less as a gimmick - and even his last album (in my collection) You Had It Coming he still employs new effects to some good ends. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 25 2007 at 12:18
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^Didn't manufacturers pass newly created effects to Hendrix in the hope he'd use and thus popularise/endorse them?
IIRC, Hendrix also entered some kind of a deal with his namesake in the amplifier business; Jim Marshall.
Gear makers couldn't wait for Hendrix to use their stuff... er... better rephrase that, maybe... ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: May 25 2007 at 12:28
| ^ That's what I thought as well...didn't he use the wah wah pedal first? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 25 2007 at 12:33
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Hendrix is mainly associated with http://www.roger-mayer.co.uk/history.htm - Roger Mayer , who started out making effects pedals for all the Yardbirds guitarists. ------------- What? |
Posted By: PorcupineDreams
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 10:06
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I think Jimi Hendrix rules all of them forever, since he's just plain amazing and contributed so much to music in general.
then Jeff Beck (I love his expressive playing style, and he's probably the guitarist who evolved and innovated the most)
then JImmy Page (since I love Led Zeppelin and he did so much for rock/metal. He was practically a prog guitarist in his own right)
then Eric Clapton (though all his songs sound the same, they all sound beautiful)
then pete townshend. ------------- When Porcupine dream and another day unite, we shall awake to find the pain of salvation is but a grand illusion, which will render us comfortably numb and make us remember these scenes from a memory. |
Posted By: PorcupineDreams
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 10:09
I'm not sure about that, but he at least showed the world its great potential. ------------- When Porcupine dream and another day unite, we shall awake to find the pain of salvation is but a grand illusion, which will render us comfortably numb and make us remember these scenes from a memory. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 07:35
There is a advert recording tucked away at the end of a Electric Prunes compilation CD, promoting the Vox wah wah (or cry baby ) pedal - Hendrix isn't mentioned amongst those then using it. (I've been long told Beck's Truth was the first album to feature it). However, Hendrix most certainly was known for his use of the wah wah pedal - somebody refers to Hendrix using this as an "aggressive weapon", while Steve Stills (particularly on side 2 of the Supersession album) was said to use it in far more subtle way ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 20:01
Townshend meby not the tecnicaly best but he was the one who rocked hardest and came up with all classic rock moves.  ------------- 
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 20:19
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Hendrix
Page
Beck
Clapton
Townsend
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 20:28
Nope. A bunch of guys used it before him. Earl Hooker, Clapton... heck, Zappa claimed he introduced the pedal to Hendrix. ------------- 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 22:31
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You guys all need to listen to early clapton. Early Cream, Bluesbreakers (with John Mayall). He used to be incredible until he started doing heroin. It ruined his ability to play with as much emotion as he used to. He's never been the same. His entire solo career is "ok" at best but he used to be the cream of the crop. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 23:30
Clapton's playing on "Layla" is some of the best, most emotionally expressive blues guitar ever recorded, so I don't agree with your "heroin" theory.
Clapton purposely changed his style away from the electric blues after the Layla period. He felt he was being pigeon-holed by the public's expectations, so for a long time, he went with a more traditional, less solo intensive style (most of the 70s albums and into the 80s). And that pissed a lot of people off who wanted to see him just jam like he did in his Cream/Mayall period. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 23:35
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Oh, and by the way, Page gets my vote. No other guitarist of these listed could compose and produce fantastic rock songs, play fantastic solos, and just blow your mind with his sonic imagination the way Page could. He needed Plant, Bonham, and Jones to do it, but he did it. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 04:42
Gotta love all those Yardbirds, but Beck topped them all IMO. Regarding "effects," I still am awed by the last track on There & Back, 'The Final Peace.' With Hymas filling in with a nice symphonic synth backdrop, Beck put the 'echo' in echoplex and flange reverberation. I still think that's the song I want them to play over and over again at my death wake....
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 05:11
Jimi Hendrix -
his technical virtuosity and songwriting skills were phenomenal - he changed the face of rock.
such a huge achievement in such a short life.
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