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Topic: Top 5 epics and why?
Posted By: raindance
Subject: Top 5 epics and why?
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 18:10
  1. CloseTo The Edge - YES. This was my introduction to prog and so I owe a great debt to this album for discovering the prog rock genre.
  2. Singring & The Glass Guitar - UTOPIA. An epic of epic proportions. It has everything from individual solo's, melodies by the score and of course Todd Rundgren's voice. Oh, it's also a fairy tale.
  3. Tarkus - ELP. Three musicians at the top of their game. I always prefer the live versions though as Emerson improvises like only Emerson can.
  4. Song of Seven - Jon Anderson. This choice might raise a few eyebrows but I love this song from his album of the same name. Makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up every time I listen to it.
  5. Six Degree's of Inner Turbulance - Dream Theater. Those who dismiss this band as being merely shredders on their instruments should listen to this epic track. They can write and perform beautiful music as good as anyone else when the mood takes them.

I just realised that four of my choices are actual album titles as well as individual songs. So remember this is asking for your top five epics and not albums.




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Posted By: Hans
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 20:03
1. ELP's Tarkus. The first epic track I heard and my all time favorite.
2. Supper's Ready by Genesis. I don't think I have to explain the greatness of this piece. Simply breathtaking from start to finish.
3. Close to the Edge (Obviously). The one thing that really stands out about this one is it's uniqueness. CTTE sounds like nothing else out there.
4. Echoes by Pink Floyd. Listening to Echoes is like being gently carried away to a distant land were everything is green and submarine. Outstanding.
5. A Change Of Seasons by Dream Theater. Actually this fifth spot really belongs to Karn Evil 9, but ACOS has always been IMO way underrated. I find it superior to Octavarium and even Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence.      


Posted By: Lofcaudio
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 20:18
I'm a sucker for epics and I'm especially fond of those written and performed by Neal Morse.
 
1. The Separated Man (Neal Morse).  Perhaps my favorite song of all time.  It's got just about everything I want in a song.  I realize that it's somewhat of an unknown compared to the usual suspects, but I tend to like those songs that often get overlooked.
2. All of the Above (Transatlantic).  I'm not sure why I like this song so much, but I do.
3. 2112 (Rush).  I enjoy the story and the soft, subtle parts are very well done.
4. The Great Nothing (Spock's Beard).  I told you I was fond of Morse's epics.  This has tons of emotion and an amazing climax.
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (Dream Theater).  This is easily my favorite song by Dream Theater.  The rest of their stuff is ho-hum, as far as I'm concerned.


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 20:23
Pink Floyd has 2 of my top 5

Dogs- best song on their best album. Its prog bliss- LOVE the guitar work/lyrics.
Echoes. A classic! Atmospheric, soothing, deep- excellent track.

Cygnus X-1 by Rush. An amazing song by my favorite band. !st rate musicianship, great lyrics and it never, ever gets old. Well, all the above never get old.

My last two? Not sure

Possibly Six Degrees, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy- I am a prog metal nut.


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Posted By: yface1
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 20:30
My choices would have to be a healthy mix of everything people have mentioned so far. Tongue And I can't be bothered explaining, this is just my list.

1. 2112 - Rush.
2. Tarkus - ELP
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Dream Theater
4. A Change of Seasons - Dream Theater
5. If Operation:Mindcrime - Queensryche counts as an epic then it would be here, if not then Cygnus X-1 by Rush.


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Posted By: Camelfan
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 20:43
1. Supper's Ready - Genesis
2. Thick as a Brick (both parts) - Jethro Tull
3. Nine Feet Underground - Caravan
4. Echoes - Pink Floyd
5. Dogs - Pink Floyd


Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 20:48
"Tarkus" ELP
"Bel Air" CAN
"2112" Rush
"Supper's Ready" Genesis
"Echoes" Pink Floyd


Posted By: Speesh
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:11
Nice, I was going to make a "favorite songs over 20 minutes thread", this works just as well.

1. "Nine Feet Underground" - Caravan: Mmmm...over 20 minutes of In the Land of Grey and Pink goodness.
2. "Song Of Scheherazade" - Renaissance: Off my favorite Renaissance album, and one of my all time favorites. Beautiful.
3. "Suite Charlotte Pike" - Transatlantic: This seems to be one of the less popular Transatlantic tracks, but I just love it from beginning to end for some reason.
4. "Thick as a Brick" - Jethro Tull: I'm sure this doesn't need an explanation.
5. "Clearlight Symphony" - Clearlight: Very unique and amazing stuff. I'm not quite sure how to describe it.

Runner up goes to "Deborah, Jane, and Laurelie" by Laurelie. Not quite as flawlessly produced as the ones mentioned above, but a solid prog folk epic.


Posted By: East of Lyra
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:20
1. Close to the Edge - Yes
2. Echoes - Pink Floyd
3. Xanadu - Rush
4. Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
5. Shine on You Crazy Diamond, Parts I-IX - Pink Floyd
 
I know, not very original choices, but I'm happy with that as a list. Smile
 
 
 


Posted By: jimbrown87
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:21
This is of course in no particular order.  And it's rather lengthy, you can skim ahead if you don't care. I don't mind.

Supper's Ready - Genesis - This is one of those pieces where I say "here comes my favorite part!" 30 seconds.  I have to silence people in the room not paying attention whenever it comes on.  Favorite part (yes, my favorite of the favorites) is from the 14:16 marker until the end.

In Held (Twas) In I - Procol Harum - I chose this one because if it weren't for this one, many others might not have been made.  Also it's an awesome epic on it's.  I still don't know if I prefer the original version or the Transatlantic version. Probably the original just because it's the original.  Favorite part in the Procol Harum version is Part 5, the choir sounds bad ass.  Favorite part in Transatlantic version is the part where the vocals (after the monologue) come in.  I don't care how you feel about Neal Morse's vocals, he absolutely nails that part.

Amarok - Mike Oldfield - This is a fun one.  It changes all the time and I always keep asking myself "what would this look/sound like live?".  This is another one where my 'favorite part' is every few minutes.  Yes, this track is mainly cheese but it's a really good cheese from famous places in continental Europe.  Mr. Oldfield does cheese with class in my opinion of opinions.  My most favorite (favorite favorite again) has to be 32:08 when the really cool sounding whistle/flute thing (i think it's the pin whistle) and accordion come in and then the whole thing shifts to this huge climactic bit filled with recurring themes and all.

Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull - All though the recording quality isn't great it's still one of my favorites.  This one brings back memories of Christmas and Battlefield 2 because I was playing this while playing Battlefield 2 during Christmas.  Yes, not quite the the album you would expect playing a modern war simulator Tongue.   Video games are a guilty pleasure.  Then again so is this song.  Favorite part from part 1 is when 17:07 into it until the end.  It's near flawless.


Bangkok/Fire Garden Suite - Steve Vai -  Yes, big surprise here.  I think these two tracks on the Fire Garden Album are the most musical things he's ever done and though to many of you that means nothing, to some it speaks volumes .  He still shows off, but he always shows off.  It's part of his style.  He keeps it relatively musical here.  My favorite part of the whole thing is the acoustic guitar and piano.  That part always gives goosebumps.  This song also has good examples of variating a given theme.


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:26
^^^ nice 1st post!!!Clap

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Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:31
"Tarkus" - ELP
"Close To The Edge" - Yes
"A Tab In The Ocean" - Nektar
"Echoes" - Pink Floyd
"Karn Evil 9 Suite" - ELP
 
"Gates of Delerium"/"Nous Sommes Du Soleil" - Yes


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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 22:22
Close to the edge- YES
Suppers ready-Genesis
Gates of Delirium-YES
Musical box- Genesis
Larks toungues in aspic Part 2-King crimson
Here is a few minor ones that I feel are also important:
Scenes from a memory(the whole album)-dream theater
Cygnus X-1 part two Hemispheres- Rush
 
You all know I like the old stuff and all these songs are my ultimate turn on!!! The only one you may question me on is the larks toungues, well its an amazing instrumental, in fact my favirout busting with more talent than any other instrumental ever!
 


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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 22:28
Gong-Isle of Everywhere
Yes-Gates of delirium
Floyd-Echoes
Yes-CTTE
Genesis-Supper
Tull-Thick as a Brick
Sorry had to put six (five is a sh*tty number)


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 23:09
1. Dream Theater- A Change of Seasons
2. Yes-Close to the Edge
3. Rush-Cygnus X-1 Book 2: Hemispheres
4. Symphony X- The Divine Wings of Tragedy
5. Dream Theater- Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance

for me, i think the quality of the epic depends on the story, and how well the music conveys the essence of that story.


Posted By: Marfan
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 23:09
1) Yes - "Close to the Edge" - my first exposure to prog rock - WOW!
 
2) Tull-  "Thick as a Brick" - some criticize this as being too cold and precise - HOGWASH!
 
3) Pink Floyd- "Dogs" - Love the lyrics.
 
4) Marillion - "Ocean Cloud" - second half of this song is simply awesome.
 
5) ELP - "Take a Pebble" -  nice and mellow....


Posted By: Gaston
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 23:22
Close to the Edge because it was Yes' creative epoch and explores so much.

Echoes because it embodies long trippy segued psychedelia.

Tarkus is top notch instrumentally and showcases how a trio can still pull off what it takes Yes five people to do.

Supper's Ready because of Gabriel.

And Gates Of Delerium because even the second best Yes epic is still in the top five epics of all time.

Honourable mention to Dogs and Awaken because they were the last of prog's hayday epics.


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 23:29
The Wishing Well by Pendragon (basically the peak of Pendragon's songwriting thus far)
Close to the Edge by Yes (do I even need to explain?)
Supper's Ready (likewise)
Gates of Delirium (an epic battle, a beautiful ending)
2112 by Rush (not Rush's best, but an excellent long hard rock song in epic style)



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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 23:42
Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
Supper's Ready - Genesis
The Tain - The Decemberists
Mekanik Destructiw Kommandoh (whole album, it counts, right?) - Magma
Last 3 way tie between
Harmonium - Histoire Sans Paroles
Yes - Close to the Edge
Focus - Hamburger Concerto


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Posted By: jimbrown87
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 23:49
mekanik destructiw kommandoh is definitely worth mentioning.  talk about intense.  and definately not the typical epic.


Posted By: ebag7125
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 00:46
I haven't heard a lot of the songs that other poeple are posting but these are my favorites:
2112 - rush- the first epic i've heard.
Cygnus X-1 book 2 - rush - Its AWESOME
Histoires san Paroles  - Harmonium - a great instrumental
One endless childish day - Dark suns  -   the best from that album (a great album)

my last one would either be Cinema Show by Genesis    or  The Odyssey by Symphony X
  i'm not sure Cinema show would be called an epic though
 
 
 


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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 00:52
Originally posted by Gaston Gaston wrote:

Close to the Edge because it was Yes' creative epoch and explores so much....
Tarkus is top notch instrumentally and showcases how a trio can still pull off what it takes Yes five people to do.
Supper's Ready because of Gabriel.
And Gates Of Delirium because even the second best Yes epic is still in the top five epics of all time....

Agreed on the ones above - very good, Gaston.  What, BTW, constitutes an epic?  If it's length of time, then "All of the Above" by Transatlantic, several by Flower Kings, "Incomudro-Hymn to the Atman" by Kansas, and even "Awaken" by Yes would all qualify (not to mention that these have excellent prog musical quality).  If it is variance of themes within (e.g. making a 'suite'), then the whole album of Childhood's End (Marillion), the first (vinyl album) side of Smallcreep's Day (Mike Rutherford), the first four songs from Clutching at Straws (Marillion), would all qualify here.  There is either broad or more narrow definitions for 'epic' to be considered....


Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 02:17
Without any specific order:
 
1. Dream Theater - A Change Of Seasons: This is by far, the most beautiful song by Dream Theater and it's so underated.
2. Transatlantic - Duel With The Devil: A kick-ass track by this supergroup, wow!!!
3. Supper's Ready: Every single band member is awesome in this track, especially Peter Gabriel
4. Shine On You Crazy Diamond & Dogs: Pure Perfection
5. Close To The Edge: The epic that defines prog.


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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 03:13
1. Awaken (Yes) - the most beautiful sounding, most mature epic I ever heard
2. Tarkus (ELP) - it's full of great musical ideas, very original and powerful
3. In Held Twas In I (Procol Harum) - the blueprint for Genesis' Supper's Ready
4. Song Of Sheherazade (Renaissance) - great storytelling music
5. Ragnarök (Cliffhanger) - great Dutch epic in the classic prog tradition


Posted By: banjosoap
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 04:08
It's so difficult to work out what defines an epic. These are possibly my 5 favourite absolute undeniable prog masterpieces in no real order:
1.Echoes - Pink Floyd
2.Supper's Ready - Genesis
3.Close To The Edge - Yes
4.Karn Evil 9 - ELP
5.Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
Honourable mention to Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd, Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield and The Gates Of Delirium - Yes.
These are definite epics but there are many I prefer more than those songs when the day suits me but whose titles as epics are questionable. Eg:
And You And I - Yes
The Musical Box - Genesis
Starless - King Crimson
A Saucerful Of Secrets (Live) - Pink Floyd
The Cinema Show - Genesis
 
 


Posted By: andu
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 04:26
Well...
 
Echoes/Dogs/Gates of Delirium/Close to the Edge/Baker Street Muse.
 
I don't relate to the tracks in TAAB or TFTO as to epics; I rather feel the albums are full suites, that are only divided into parts because of technical reason.


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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 04:51
Marillion - This Strange Engine, very moving..
Pink Floyd - Echoes, excellent vocal lines..
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick, cause it's the best 70's LP..
Dream Theater - A Change Of Seasons, cause i never get bored of a single second of it
Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade Of Gray, cause it's the best prog concept ever..

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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:06
Pink Floyd: Dogs
Pink Floyd: Shine
Pink Floyd: Echoes
Genesis: Supper Ready
Yes: Gates of delirium
The Beatles: Abbey Road b side
Marillion: the first three songs on Clutching at Straws (could even be called Clutching at Straws Suite IMO)
 
sorry, couldn't pick only 5
 


Posted By: Marwin
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:27
Yes - Heart of Sunrise, Just an explosion of beatiful emotion and feeling love it
Genesis - The Musical Box, Exciting thrilling and all in all a masterpiece
Beatles - A Day in a Life, Hard to explain this one just go listen to it
Camel - Lady Fantasy, Probably one of the best sounding songs of all time tonewise
Opeth - The Drapery Falls, Never fails to impress me with its beatiful melodies and its raw power


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Posted By: barryveeke
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:59
Wow this is hard (and fun). Been reading the forum a lot now, time to participate.
 
No particular order because that is really too hard:
 
 - Genesis - Supper's ready
   My first prog-epic, and still one of the best for me. Totally love it, with all it's    movemenst in different emeotions
 - Dream Theater - octavarium
   The best DT song up to date. Marvelous how they mingle old-school style prog with their masterful playiong skills and traditional DT-esque crazy parts.
 - Transatlantic - Stranger in your Soul
    Simply brilliant! Beautiful melodies, excellent musiscianship. lovin it!
 - Porcupine Tree - Anesthesize
   Maybe it is a bit too early to put such a 'young' epic in this list but this one really 
   blew  me away and kicked my ass. just  WOW Clap
-  The Mars Volta - Cassandra Gemini
   Modern prog, truly original and brilliant!
 
of course there are much much more brilliant epics out there. i mean Yes is not even on my list, and i love that band! And Mr neal Morse makes Marvellous epics.
 
but well, this is it


Posted By: febus
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 07:55

In no order

MOON IN JUNE====Soft Machine
HAMBURGER CONCERTO====Focus
SOLAR FIRE=====Grobschnitt
KOHNTARKOSZ====Magma
LIZARD======KIng Crimson                          Thumbs%20Up


Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 08:04
I may be slightly influenced by the recent VdGG tour, but:
 
1. Plague of you know who - VdGG
2. Gog/magog - VdGG
3. Flight - Peter Hammill
4. Mergeulys III - VdGG
5. Sleepwalkers - VdGG
 
very parichial I know, but can't beat 'um.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 08:08
MIne are obvious.........the oldies must be the best I suppose....
 
  • Gates Of Delirium
  • Tarkus
  • Suppers Ready
  • Hemispheres
  • Ars Longa Vita Brevis


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Posted By: King Zappa
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 10:15
5. In the Court of the Crimson King- hmmmm... who was this by?...  For quite some time I didn't think you could end an album in a better way. The Mellotron at its finest.
 
4.  Close to the Edge - Yes  It seems that this is on almost all the lists, puzzeling how such an amazing song could have such a following...
 
3.  Super's Ready - Genesis  Not likeing this song is the cornerstone of the Nazi platform.
 
2.  The Zumbo Variations - Frank Zappa  While not an epic in the same way as most of the other songs being mentioned,  I still gett that same feeling from it.
 
1.  Red - hmmm... still can't remember their name...  Greatest way to end an album, greatest Epic, Greatest Song


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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 12:21
well my favourite epics are in no particular order:

- Supper´s Ready - Genesis - My first prog epic and it still amazes me, Peter Gabriel at his best!
- Close to the Edge - Yes - It was when i listened to this music that i figured prog was my cup of tea. Simply a moment of art.
- A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers - Van der Graaf Generator - Such an emotional song, changes a lot of times and its just marvellous to hear it.
- Lizard - King Crimson - The beggining with Jon Anderson is something everyone should hear if that someone likes prog like we do. Someone that dont kknow this song fails to really know king crimson and therefore one of progs best moments.
- Gates of Delirium - Yes - Thinking again this music is probably prog´s best epic, and even I´m not sure about that, but this song kicks ass.

and now mention to other outstanding epics like Cignus X-1 book II, 2112, Larks tongues in Aspic, Karn Evil 9, La Rossa, The Sleepwalkers, Anglagard's Hostsejd, Nektar's A Tab in the Ocean, Echoes, Awaken, The revealing science of god, and i think thats enough for now.



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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 12:59
1. A Passion Play by Jethro Tull because I am a sucker for obtuse religious symbolism.

2. 2112 by Rush because it was one of my first epics and also I am a big Ayn Rand fan.

3. Lady Fantasy by Camel because of the beautiful melodies.

4. Lizard by King Crimson because it is an underrated masterpiece.

5. Shine On You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd for obvious reasons.


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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 13:09
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

 
1. Plague of you know who - VdGG Whom? Voldemort Wink?
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Here we go then:
 
1. A Plague of Death Eaters, I mean, Lighthouse KippersWink - Hats before Mr Hammill, his ingenious introspections in lyrics and most creative music in whole prog
2. Close To The Edge by Yes - definitive progressive symphonic song, a song deducted from nature, from birds' song, incorporating almost every style except flamenco
3. Meurglys III by Van Der Graaf Generator- to start with a fugue and end with a reggae with some of the greatest jazz - rock inside and tasty lyrics - these guys are crazier than Einstein with Feynman combined
4. Nine Feet Underground by Caravan - sheer freedom, laughter, jazz, different parts smoothly joined and vocals of Richard Sinclair and canons
5. Second Life Syndrome by Riverside - see how cleverly the group claiming its style to be prog metal and NOT neoprog follow Pink Floyd musically and Marillion lyrically and it ROCKS
 
Of course it is strictly personal and based on my recent tastes and there is no space left for King Crimson, ELP, Museo Rosenbach, Eloy, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, The Flower Kings, Peter Hammill, Transatlantic, IQ and loads more 


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Posted By: proglady
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 14:33
Close To The Edge - Yes
Karn Evil 9 - ELP
A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers - VdGG
Supper's Ready - Genesis
Lizard - King Crimson
Gates Of Delirium - Yes
Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull
Tarkus - ELP



Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 14:44
Yes - Close to the Edge: concise and straight as a song, full of energy
VDGG - Meurglys III: I'm fond of minimalism
Kraftwerk - Autobahn: would you consider it an epic? I do: the ultimate electronic epic
Rush - The Fountain of Lamneth: not really an epic, more a concept, but so many beautiful tunes here...
Banco - Il giardino del Mago: I love its deeply Italian flavour


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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 14:57
In no particular order :
 
The Gates of Delirium - Yes
The best thing Yes ever recorded, perfectly constructed, everything in it's place, every musician shines.  My favorite part is the instrumental chaotic section.
 
Xanadu - Rush
A shorter epic, but Rush's greatest in my humble opinion.
 
Jack Luminous - Voivod (from the album The Outer Limits)
That's right, Voivod !!!  Clocking in at nearly 18:00 minutes, this epic remains, to this day (in my humble opinion) the most original progressive metal epic ever made.  Maestro Piggy's best creation, for the songwriting as well as the sounds he used.  MANDATORY LISTENING FOR EVERYONE INTO PROG METAL !!!
 
Starless - King Crimson
This song never fails to give me the goosebumps, from it's beautiful, melancholic overture to the breathtaking finale, the best KC song for me.
 
Tie between Echoes, Atom Heart Mother, Shine on you Crazy Diamond and Animals by Pink Floyd.  The epics that defined prog epics.
 


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Posted By: KeleCableII
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 16:54
Rush - 2112 (been my favorite song since I was a kid, I just love it)
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick (I love JT's integrated sound. If there's one thing I like, it's when all the instruments are treated as equals and just jam)
Genesis - Supper's Ready (Just too cool)
ELP - Karn Evil 9 (The three impressions are all great)
IQ - Harvest of Souls (I really like the progression and sound changes)

HMs:
VDGG - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (It's so weird I like it)
Camel - Lady Fantasy (Just a good song, one of the songs that got me into prog)
Rush - Cygnus X-1 (Song is just kickass)


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 16:57
Not necessarily in this order :

Hamburger Concerto / Focus  Genius neo-classical rock

Suite/ Omega    Most suitable theme for an epic I`ve ever heard with great music to boot Blues, rock, jazz and a hint of classical all in one piece.

Crises/Mike Oldfield Great fnale well put together with great dynamics. I especially like the drum bash with Mike and Simon Philips at the end

Fire Water Earth & Air/ Jane  Trippiest epic ever withlots of spaced out gibson les paul & Hammon organ

Solar Music/ Grobschnitt  Don`t have a clue what it`s about but I saw it live and is one of the freakiest pieces of music I`ve evr witnessed.


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Posted By: barte_1969
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 19:07
1) ELP - Tarkus - my introduction to prog.  Actually, I dismissed it as crap the first time I heard it. However, it grew on me with each listening. Now I'm a happy proghead thanks to this particular magnum opus
2)Colosseum - Valentyne Suite - jazzy rock at its best
3)VDGG - Pioneers Over C - even though I've never been much of a fan of Hammill & co., I do find this one breathtaking
4)Soft Machine - Facelift - this one sends shivers up my spine each time I hear it
5)ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition - IMO the best rock interpretation of a classical piece


Posted By: EinTon
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 19:42
1. Aksak Maboul - Cinema
2. Henry Cow  - Living in the Heart of the Beast
3. Univers Zero  - Combat
4. Art Zoyd -  Symphonie  pour le Jour oů brűleront les Cités.




Posted By: DethMaiden
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 19:46
Rush- "2112"- Truly the perfect example of a well-executed lengthy song. Doesn't lose my interest for even a second no matter how many times I hear it.
Genesis- "Supper's Ready"- Such a great balance of dynamics; each member gets to show that he's among the elite of his given instrument.
Pink Floyd- "Dogs"- Waters' lyrics + Gilmour's solos = truly amazing song.
Opeth- "Deliverance"- Best contrast of heavy and mellow that they ever have and probably ever will accomplish. Classic riff/drumline in the outro.
Mouth of the Architect- "Sleepwalk Powder"- The king of all post-metal/metalgaze songs. The keyboard and guitar offset each other brilliantly and the layered vocals give the song an eerie aura.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 20:19
Originally posted by Gaston Gaston wrote:



Tarkus is top notch instrumentally and showcases how a trio can still pull off what it takes Yes five people to do.




or any group of any number of people..Clap




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Posted By: Tales
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 20:26
Glad to see Tarkus getting some worthy praiseClap


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 20:27
a couple of mine... off the top of my head..

I Giganti - Terra in Bocca  (the whole album)  listen to this and then listen next to Thick as a Brick.  You'll see why a growing number of people are nutso about RPI. Also a bit of a rarity in prog... a down to earth topical theme.  (The Mafia)

Yes - TFTO    Can't really break this up.. so the ultimate epic.  A epic in 4 movements of the forces of nature..   air, water, earth, fire.








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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 20:51
 1 Gates of Delirium
 2 Supper's ready ( Apoclypse in 9/8 is stunning )
 3 Karn evil 9
  4 Crises ( glad to see this one already mentioned )
5 Hamburger Concerto
 
Honourable mention to Tarkus


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Posted By: Deus_Nova
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 21:47

mh.. it's a diffucult question... my top five epics i think that are:

- 2112 (Rush): I've grew up with these guys.. also i love this song... one of my favourites of Rush, it's a classic for all prog fans
 
-Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Parts I - X(Pink Floyd): it's a very special song. The mood of the song it's very beautiful, also the structure of the song. Roger Waters is a genius.
 
-Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (Dream Theater): this group is one of my favourites. When i bought this cd, i fell in love with the songLOL
Nothing to say. A Very beautiful song. It's has all the faces of Dream Theater. A great 40-minute epic
 
-Close To The Edge (Yes): when i started to listen prog, that it was a lot of years ago, i listened to this song. All the changes of the song are great.
 
-The Narrow Margin (IQ): what a great song. i love it. IQ made it all with this song. it's has a very special mood also.   


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Posted By: Proglodita
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 22:33
The Truth Will Set You Free (The Flower Kings) - One of the best TFK efforts and a sound really amazing. Another thing I love is the chorus, I mean, normally these epics have several parts but no chorus.
Atom Heart Mother (Pink Floyd) - What can I say? Imposible to hear with the eyes open.
Wings/10.000 Days (Tool) - That crescendo it's incredible, and it's all a moan.
Thick as a Brick (Jethro Tull) - What a classic. I think it's far from any other Jethro Tull work (well, not one of my favorites bans, but TAAB is another story).
Close To the Edge (Yes) - The father of all epics (well, not cronologically but, you know), and with the most "epic" sound, besides the common meaning referring to the length.
 
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Posted By: Proglodita
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 22:42
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 23:13
A Change of Seasons  - DT
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - DT
Tarkus - ELP
Stardust We Are - TFK
Genesis - Supper's ready
 


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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 23:50
I believe I should put in some more...
Tarkus- ELP- I've only heard this once and loved it
Wings for mary/10000 days-tool- Beautifully creepy that make my spine shiver every time
Awaken-Yes- when you look up epic in the dictionary... you'll find this song
Natural science-rush- maybe the only song with a political message, just amazing
Firth of fifth-Genesis- Most talent filled song GEN ever put out
The remembering-YES- the best lyrics EVER


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 01:32
I'm not sure what qualifies as an epic, so I'll just make a list with my favorite very long tracks (like everyone else). 10, 15 minutes+ :

Wapassou: La Messe En Ré (39:57)
Vortex: Les Cycles De Thanatos (25:16)
Dashiell Hedayat: Cielo Drive 17 (21:09)
Tangerine Dream: Fly And Collision Of Comas Sola (16:27)
Klaus Schulze: Voices of Syn (22:27)

Magma: Die Futura (17:40)
VdGG: A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (23:12)
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso: Canto Nomade Per Un Prigioniero Politico (15:46)
Maneige: Le Rafiot (21:22)
Can: Halleluhwah (18:28)






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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 06:35
Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

  1. CloseTo The Edge - YES. This was my introduction to prog and so I owe a great debt to this album for discovering the prog rock genre.
  2. Singring & The Glass Guitar - UTOPIA. An epic of epic proportions. It has everything from individual solo's, melodies by the score and of course Todd Rundgren's voice. Oh, it's also a fairy tale.
  3. Tarkus - ELP. Three musicians at the top of their game. I always prefer the live versions though as Emerson improvises like only Emerson can.
  4. Song of Seven - Jon Anderson. This choice might raise a few eyebrows but I love this song from his album of the same name. Makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up every time I listen to it.
  5. Six Degree's of Inner Turbulance - Dream Theater. Those who dismiss this band as being merely shredders on their instruments should listen to this epic track. They can write and perform beautiful music as good as anyone else when the mood takes them.

I just realised that four of my choices are actual album titles as well as individual songs. So remember this is asking for your top five epics and not albums.

 
I do know what you mean about the " Song Of Seven" by Jon Anderson.....a pearl of epic proportions in between a multitude of ironic songs. I think on this song alone he was  " in the moment"


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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 06:42
PF - Wish You were Here - Accoustically celestial
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn part 1 - dimensional skipping!
Genesis - Dancing with the Moonlit Knight.....need I say more
Yes - Awaken......gentle mass....touching....
Bo Hansson - Born of the Gentle South....unbeknown musical sculpture.


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Posted By: Yito
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 10:32
Yes - Close To The Edge
 
Dream Theater - Octavarium
 
Genesis - Supper's Ready
 
Neal Morse - The Conclusion
 
Trasatlantic - Duel With The Devil
 
why? just listen this songsWink.


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Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 11:46
No order:
 
"Supper's Ready" - Genesis
One of the greatest songs of all-time. The lyrics have a common theme, the band plays in perfect unison, and Gabriel just dazzles throughout. The ending is one of the best moments in music.
 
"This Strange Engine" - Marillion
It's even better live, with a fantastic bassline from Pete. The song swells and transitions and just rocks.
 
"Shine On You Crazy Diamond" - Pink Floyd
It's a tough choice between this and "Dogs", but this suite has a great atmosphere. The music is what drives the whole thing.
 
"Viđrar vel til loftárása" - Sigur Rós
Growing from a simple but beautiful piano part, the song steadily builds beneath Jonsi's haunting vocals. The string work in the very end is glorious. The track is the highlight of the album and just pulls everything together.
 
"Storm" - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
The fifth choice could have been any of the four epics on Lift Your Skinny Fists, but I picked this one because it opens the album with a bang and has some really stunning transitionary moments.
 
"Fool's Overture" - Supertramp
How has this not been mentioned yet? It's painstakingly beautiful, and one of the best moments on the entire album. What a song!
 
Non-Prog (As Defined By This Site) Epics That Rock:
 
"Cowgirl In The Sand" - Neil Young & Crazy Horse
"Achilles Last Stand" - Led Zeppelin
"Terrapin Station" - Grateful Dead
"East-West" - The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
"Bros" - Panda Bear
"Won't Get Fooled Again" - The Who


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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 12:02
Yes - The Revealing Science of God (Because it's the essence of masterliness, and i don't know what to write)
Yes - The Remembering (Because it's the essence of masterliness, and because it has beautiful melodies and good, almost non-understandable lyrics)
Yes - The Ancient (Because it's the essence of masterliness, and because Steve Howes classical guitar solo is beautiful)
Yes - The Ritual (Because it's the essence of masterliness, and nothing more)
Yes - Close to the Edge (Because it's the essence of masterliness, and nothing more)
Yes - Gates of Delerium (Because it's the essence of masterliness, and has a wonderful ending section)
 
Yes is probably the best band when it comes to Epics.
No way i can make a top 5, but here's other honorable mentions:
 
Eloy - Land of no Body
Genesis - Suppers Ready
Dream Theater - Learning to Live
The Flower Kings - Big Puzzle
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Pink Floyd - Echoes
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Pink Floyd - Shine on You Crazy Diamond
Pink Floyd - Dogs


Posted By: Endless Wire
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 16:26
1. Supper's Ready by Genesis
2. Gates of Delirium by Yes
3. Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd 
4. Close to the Edge by Yes
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence by Dream Theater
 
Yes is the king of the epic in my opinion.  Oddly enough I've always felt Gates of Delirium was far superior to CTTE...Am I the only one?


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 17:30
  1. Transatlantic- All Of The Above: Simply majestic, this goes on for half an hour, but it paradoxically feels like a 30 AND a 10 minute song at the same time. Brilliant lyrics and the msicianship is stunning.
  2. Genesis- Suppers Ready: The archatypical prog epic that set the standard for decades, cleverly composed, with equally clever lyrics, musicianship and delivery.
  3. Dream Theater- A Change Of Seasons: The epitomy of progressive metal in 25 minutes.
  4. Pain Of Salvation- Beyond The Pale: Just short of 10 minutes but epic in every way, the highly charged culmination of a very emotional album.
  5. Echolyn- Mei: Simply stunning.

Honorable mentions go to:

Dream Theater- In The Name Of God (no, I'm not jocking)
Symphony X- The Odyssey
Fates Warning- A Pleasent Shade Of Grey
Green Carnation- Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness
Kayo Dot- The Manifold Curiosity
Jethro Tull- Thick As A Brick
Pink Floyd- Dogs
Spocks Beard- The Great Nothing
Opeth- The Drapery Falls
King Crimson- Larks Tongues' In Aspic Pt1
Wobbler- Hinterland
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Posted By: EinTon
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 18:03
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


Tangerine Dream: Fly And Collision Of Comas Sola (16:27)
Klaus Schulze: Voices of Syn (22:27)


Oh, If you like long "electronicals" I could recommend these:

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-02-spaces_in_spaces.mp3

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-05-a_walk_on_deep_snow.mp3

and also the other tracks of the album:

http://www.autoplate.org/releases.php?r=thn005


You mustn't be generally allergic against 4-to-the-floor Bassdrums, although.


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 01:00
Originally posted by Endless Wire Endless Wire wrote:

1. Supper's Ready by Genesis
2. Gates of Delirium by Yes
3. Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd 
4. Close to the Edge by Yes
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence by Dream Theater
 
Yes is the king of the epic in my opinion.  Oddly enough I've always felt Gates of Delirium was far superior to CTTE...Am I the only one?
Depends on who you talk too, if you want a heavier and more monstrous sound with a beautiful ending, you want Gates. If you want a completely unique, sprawling and deeper lyrical meening kind of song, you want ctte 


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Posted By: Negru Voda
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 03:28
Lizard by King Crimson because .... it's KC Big%20smile
The Gates of Delirium by Yes because of the incredible instrumental part in the middle
Echoes by Pink Floyd because it's the first one I've listened to
Atom Heart Mother by Pink Floyd because it's soo trippy
Halleluwah by Can because I can Wink

Honourable mention: Magma's Riah Sahiltaak because it's different from all the rest.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 04:06
Originally posted by EinTon EinTon wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


Tangerine Dream: Fly And Collision Of Comas Sola (16:27)
Klaus Schulze: Voices of Syn (22:27)


Oh, If you like long "electronicals" I could recommend these:

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-02-spaces_in_spaces.mp3

ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/thinner/%5Bthn005%5D-05-a_walk_on_deep_snow.mp3

and also the other tracks of the album:

http://www.autoplate.org/releases.php?r=thn005


You mustn't be generally allergic against 4-to-the-floor Bassdrums, although.


Thanks. I'm slightly allergic to 4-to-the-floor bassdrums and, predictably I preferred the Spaces in Spaces track to Walk on Deep.

Your other post reminded me that I should have included an Univers Zero track.

La Faulx 25:18 or The Funeral Plain 20:22. Can't decide.
Vangelis: The Dragon (15:17). Vangelis' easternsounding, thundering krautflirt from '71. All these now boring, old folks creating the dullest music on earth, were just so cool in the 70's. Its scary.






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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 04:15
I forgot some other great ones!
  • Caravan - Nine Feet Underground
  • Mike Oldfield - Amarok
  • Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
  • Transatlantic - Stranger in your Soul
  • Jethro Tull - Baker St. Muse
  • Camel - Lady Fantasy


Posted By: THE_POLE
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 04:17
Opeth - Ghost Of Perdition
The Mars Volta - Cassandra Gemini
Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
The Tangent - A Place In The Queue

Honourable Mentions:
And Then There Was Silence by Blind Guardian
Tetragrammaton by TMV
The Sky Moves Sideways by PT
Reflection by Tool



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Posted By: EinTon
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 10:45
I could also add John Coltrane's Ascension   and Frank Zappa's "The Grand Wazoo". Embarrassed


Posted By: Hrvat
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 09:23
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Light of Darkness
Fates Warning - The Ivory Gates of Dream 
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Marillion - Grendel
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Rush - Hemispheres


Posted By: EpicKeyboardist
Date Posted: May 10 2007 at 14:46

Hard choice!

1. Genesis - Supper's Ready
2. Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
3. Symphony X - The Odyssey
4. Rush - 2112
5. Marillion - Grendel
 
Would have liked to put one of Yes' in but you know...
 


Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 10:30
1. Tangerine Dream - Birth of Liquid Plejades. I probably listen to this track more than any other. Fantastic floating sounds.
 
2. McDonald & Giles - Birdman. Ex-Crimso members produce something very different from ITCOTCK but just as good.
 
3. Caravan - Nine Feet Underground. One of my favourite Canterbury tracks.
 
4. Klaus Schulze - Crystal Lake (especially the Xylotones part at the beginning - hypnotic!)
 
5. Grand Giraffe Venerator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. It's got everything, including the kitchen sink). Wink


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Posted By: SheikYerbouti
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 12:02
Ahhh, this is very hard! I can't arrange them by numbers. But I enjoy these:
 
King Crimson - Lizard - That jazzy brass part, oh lala.
 
King Crimson - Starless - One note solo, and some pretty impressive saxomophonin'
 
Yes - Close to the edge and Gates of delerium - Nostalgia :D
 
Wobbler - Hinterland - love when the beautifull main theme is arranged for classical guitar, can't believe they are Norwegian!
 
Camel - Ladyfantasy - I got special emotions tied to this song
 
Many good favourites here!
 


Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:11
besides the most common you guys list them here which I also love but I won't repeat myself. I am listing other good ones.
Renaissance: Ashes Are Burning, Song of scheheherazade.
Kansas Magnum Opus
Supertramp : Crime of the century, Enven in the Quietest Moments.
Porcupine Tree: Sky moves sideways 1-2, Wating Phase 1-2
Bill Bruford The sahara Of snow Pt. 1-2
Soft Machine Hazard Profile PT. 1-5
Yes Awaken, Gates of the Delirium
King Crimson: Larks' tongues in aspic part 1, the talking Drums Part 2
Nektar A Tab in the Ocean, Remmeber the future.
Gong:Master builder, The Isle of everywhere,You never blow yr Tip Forever.
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:24
"Grendel" by Marillion - Such a badass song from beginning to end, and the Megaman-esqe middle section is the peak of prog badassity.

"You Enjoy Myself" by Phish - These guys are so underrated in the prog community. They took a composition that was 9 minutes on the album and developed it into a 25 minute live masterpiece, featuring a groovy Yes-like opening, a rockin' middle section, a funky bass solo, and closing with a crazy ever changing vocal jam.

"Cassandra Gemini" by The Mars Volta - This song bombards the listener with aggressive melodies from beginning to end, and rarely slows down, except for a short ambient section. It's filled with so many great hooks and vocal lines that are so fun to sing along to.

"Close To The Edge" by Yes - Not much to say about this one, although I will say that the Yessymphonic version is probably the strongest.

"The Truth Will Set You Free" by The Flower Kings - This was the first Flower Kings song I heard and I fell in love instantly. I've only heard it once or twice since then, but I'm listening to it again right now and remembering how great it made me feel on the first listen.




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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:53
for me...  probably in stages..

1. Close to the Edge  - the perfect '18 minute long song'... not a hodgepodge of song fragments tied together, however well,  like Tarkus and Supper's Ready for example.  Again.. as I've posted in the past... if don't don't like a part of Supper's Ready.. wait for the next one....  here..  wait..... I"ll let  John McFerrin say it ...he's a pro at  ...I'm not...

' ELP had had Tarkus, Genesis had had Supper's Ready, King Crimson had had, er, Lizard, not to mention Jethro Tull with Thick as a Brick and so on. .

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).

So Yes took a different route, a route that was both simpler and more complicated than what had previously been attempted. And what was that route? Well, first of all, examine the basic structure of a pop-song, as mentioned in a comment below: Intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle8/instrumental-break/verse/chorus/outro. To this point, the general idea had been to make the basic verse and chorus melodies as compact as possible, with a minimal amount of development and deconstruction. But, smart men they were, Yes realized that this structure could just as well support lengthy, intensely developed and complex verse melodies. And so they went this route, and in essence created the world's first 19-minute pop song.


I know there are scores of articles out there on the musical structure of Close to the Edge.  It's at the top of the list by any objective standard..... as it should be. It was unique... and the quality speaks for itself. 


2. Tarkus

Fabuously subtle lyrically,  depending on how you read it... and musically...  far superior in shear display of talent than any of the other similar 'cut and paste.

will finish list later...  my suppers's ready...  hahahha.. Need to think on it as well. Those first two or sort of no-brainers in my book.








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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 18:36
ahhh... back to it.. now that the pit has been sated.

having covered the top epic song and top epic 'cut and paste'

the epic album.....  and should be no surprise

3. Tales from Topographic Oceans.

an grand epic across 2 LP's of a grand symphony in 4 movements.  Before anyone who bothers to care flames me... listen to the album... closely.  The 4 'epics'  are acutally parts of a larger epic.  They are all related.  I never caught it until someone a hell of a lot smarter than I pointed it out hahah.

Next up... epic instrumental

4. A Saucerful of Secrets...

forget the instrumental w**kfests that say nothing. This one does.. an instrumental epic that predates the theme  that Yes did with Gates of Delirium by YEARS.  More subtle.. and thus...  once you strip away the chrome  and all the bells and whistles.  A far more interesting epic.

last up....  simply personal preference here... for shear quality....

No surprise to any who know me....

5.Ys -  forget the track listing.... and find Andreas translation of it here at PA's.   What's more epic than the retelling of a man's journeys and encounters with death.   Simply an incredbile epic that flows with the same brutal intensity throughout the whole album.  Completely different that anything that comes to mind from the so called masters of prog. 


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Posted By: EinTon
Date Posted: May 25 2007 at 16:17
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).



Do you know Aksak Maboul's "cinema" (RIO-style) ? It's  also very  cohesive musical piece, not a "suite" of different pieces -  although not a conventional "pop song" with verse and refrain. It's characterized by several musical "themes" which reappear in many parts of the piece, but always  a bit different arranged and in a different mood.

The "main theme" is even played forward and backward at the beginning and the end of the piece.



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2007 at 17:59
Originally posted by EinTon EinTon wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).



Do you know Aksak Maboul's "cinema" (RIO-style) ? It's  also very  cohesive musical piece, not a "suite" of different pieces -  although not a conventional "pop song" with verse and refrain. It's characterized by several musical "themes" which reappear in many parts of the piece, but always  a bit different arranged and in a different mood.

The "main theme" is even played forward and backward at the beginning and the end of the piece.



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Posted By: EinTon
Date Posted: May 25 2007 at 21:36
You can download it here:

http://www.musicload.de/item.ml?releaseid=1734856_2 - http://www.musicload.de/item.ml?releaseid=1734856_2

it's track 6-9 - they have split the piece in its four parts...


Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: May 26 2007 at 08:04
5. The Creation/The Seperated Man (tie) - Neal Morse. The gorgeous melodies (first played on The Creation, and some reprised on The Seperated Man) can really uplift and touch the listener. Portnoy and George in the rhtythm departement really tear it up, but not too the excess that it takes away from the excellent writing, or from the beautiful melodies. The instrumental sections in these songs are absolutely brilliant, and are as atmospheric as ambient music, as exhilirating as prog metal, and as moving as Morse's music has ever been.

4. Hergest Ridge, Part One - Mike Oldfield. The atmosphere of this album is extremely captivating, and very rewarding. Though Mike is no guitar wizard, or instrumental genius, he is fantastic at writing music, and his most beaitiful melodies are found on Hergest Ridge. Part One is a bit more diverse, and not as sloppy as Part Two.

3. Octavarium - Dream Theater. Dream Theater, as far as I knew, were just a bland metal band. I thought they were just musical geniuses with no skill at writing and no musical sensitivity. But when I took this album out of the library, and heard this song, that presumption was shattered to pieces. Not only are these some of the very best musicians in the world, but they are also phenomenal writers, and explore in many different style of music. This album is extremely emotional from its moody beginning, to its epic climax.

2. Histoires Sans Paroles - Harmonium. This is an extremely delicate song. Its soft flutes, guitars and keyboards all meld together amazingly. They even manage to shift from section to section seamlessly. The beauty of this song has rarely been matched, let alone kept consistent for seventeen minutes. The flute line is one of the very best string of notes that can be played.

1. Supper's Ready - Genesis. Extremely captivating, beatiful music with phenomenally diverse atmospheres. The musicianship and complexity is top-shelf, but there's to it than that. The music has a bond with the listener. When listening to this song, it's like reading a well written novel. The serene, haunting introduction sets the mood, and the tensions builds until the massive climax and the conclusion.

I doubt anyone will really read all that.


Posted By: jplanet
Date Posted: May 26 2007 at 14:19
Yes - Gates of Delirium: One of those adventurous and daring compositions, but above all, highly melodic and enjoyable. Low on repetition and filler -- every moment of the music reflects something in the story being told.

Transatlantic: Stranger in Your Soul: A modern masterpiece!

Spock's Beard: The Great Nothing: Goosebumps galore

Pirates: Maybe ELP's most ambitious piece. More cohesive and maturely composed than their earlier epics -- Tarkus didn't make it here as I'm not as much of a fan of the disjointed melodies unless there is a breathtaking melodic resolution, although Aquatarkus live seems to accomplish this better than the studio version.

Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick: Will always be one of my favorites from JT -- I don't think they've ever matched its brilliance before or since.


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Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: June 08 2007 at 16:49
yes-close to the edge
elp-tarkus
jethro tull-thick as a brick (pt. 1 and 2)
genesis-suppers ready
pink floyd-echoes
 
there are more, but I can't think of them. I'm not saying these are the definitive top 5, but they come to mind immediately for me.


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Posted By: Astrodomine
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 00:05
Close To The Edge
Tarkus
Atom Hearth Mother
A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers
In The Court Of The King Crimson


Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 00:33

Fantomas - Surgical Sounds - Maybe the only piece of music that has ever actually frightened me. I feel like I am ripping on flesh and bone when I listen to this. This is primal and evil. I love ever bit of it...even the end.

VDGG - A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers - One of the darkest songs off of one of the darkest albums. The music is very moving yet depressing.
 
Can Tago Mago - I consider this entire album to just be ONE but more specifically  Halleluhwah and Aumgn. Spaced out and hypnotic. The best music to listen to while out of it for sure.
 
 
 
Radiohead Exit Music - Sure it isn't an epic to the standards...but I don't care about the standards. This song in itself has got to be on of the most moving songs I've ever heard. The power of the fuzzy bass line with the Nick Mason like drumming. The lyrics are also amazing. This song is EPIC!
 
John Zorn - Six Litanies For Heliogabalus - This is too much. This CD is the ultimate piece of prog for me. It twists and turns and never leaves you with a dull moment. You can sit in a room full of people and no one will say a word. This music is THAT powerful. Even the Patton voice solo will keep just about anyone quiet. This entire CD does not cease to amaze me and probably never will.


Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 13:09
Mine is a fairly conventional list I guess, I haven't listened to a few of these bands in a while but these songs hold a very special place in my heart.

Yes - Close to the edge, pretty self explanitory, I've been on a vast musical journey over the past 3 years since discovering prog and later metal  and many other interesting genres in between and I have yet to find a piece of music that is as cohesive, genuine and appealing to me as close to the edge, I think it's pretty much the pincale of contemporary music in my eyes.

Rush - 2112, just a fantastic song that I latched onto at the very beginning of my prog journey which showed me just how great the genre could be, some great riffs, I enjoy the story and just the song in general really.

Jethro Tull - thick as a brick, I just love the sense of humour and the great story it tells, not to mention the music is fantastic.

Pink Floyd - Shine on you crazy diamond, I'm very reserved when it comes to emotional songs, and when a song develops an emotional meaning for me it's very rare, this song has the perfect subtlety and grace to acheive that.

Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - L'evoluzione, bit of a different one, just a fantastic song that opened my eyes to I guess non english speaking bands and italian prog and the whole european gate just swung open for me after enjoying this classic.


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Posted By: DaysEnd
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 17:02
Yes - Close to the Edge - the pinnacle of progressive rock. It's dark, light, slow and mysterious, sharp and edgy. And powerful chords during Wakeman's church organ solo.
 
Yes - Awaken - Not quite as diverse as the former, but very beautiful and layered. The echo effect in the studio works best with this track.
 
Genesis - Supper's Ready - The song tells a great story, and it can be very fun at times (Willow Farm anyone?). The 9/8 conclusion with Banks soloing is a great listen.
 
Rush - 2112 - Equally great story. The guitar solos are some of Lifeson's best. They didn't need keyboards to pull this one off. I wouldn't say Rush had the idea of "prog" in their heads at the time when they made this album, but it's epic nonetheless. Now if they had decided to make this song an album or two later...
 
Spock's Beard - At the End of the Day - Catchy riffs that stay in your head awhile. The transitions in this song make it flow very well. I like the spanish guitar lines, and anticipate every time Neal Morse gets prepared to play a keyboard solo.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 18:41
  1. Supper's Ready (Genesis): A complete epic in all the sense, narrates not only a battle bewteen good and evil but describes with sarcasm attitudes of British society, ends with a glorious Biblical reference to the Book of Revelations.
  2. Song of Sheherezade (Renaissance): Fantastic narration based in the 1,001 Arabian Nights and Rimsky Korsakov's work, outstanding fom start to end
  3. All the Seats were Occupied (Aphrodite's Child): It's a complete epic, a summary of all the Book of Revelations.
  4. Thick as a Brick (Jethro Tull): Conceptual album? epic? No both at the same time, a wonderul  epic poem in all the sense.
  5. Children of the Sun (Magenta): The author's version of ancient civilizations, has everything required for an epic.

INote: I used to place Close to the Edge as N° 2 but now I don't consider this song as an epic, it's one of the best long tracks ever but no epic narrations so it's outside the frames IMHO.

Iván


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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 21:11
1. This Strange Engine (Marillion): So moving. Probably H era Marillion's most emotional track. Rothery's guitar work is brilliant.
2. The Last Man On Earth (Pendragon): It's hard to pick out one Pendragon epic, but I think this one is close to perfect. The choruses at the beginning are sublime and Barrett's haunting guitar playing is superb.
3. The Willing Well (Coheed and Cambria): I don't care what anyone says. This is definitely Prog and a very good Prog epic, at that. It's pretty diverse and not one of its ~24 minutes is wasted.
4. Solomon (Arena): An extremely bombastic climax to a very bombastic album. I love it, particularly the melodies (vocal and guitar) that start with the line "Does it matter to you?"
5. Supper's Ready (Genesis): The prog epic. Peter Gabriel is on fire on this track, and the outro is one of the classic moments of 70s Progressive Rock.

A few honourable mentions:

Harvest of Souls (IQ)
A Place in the Queue (The Tangent)
Ice (Camel)
The Bright Ambassadors of Morning (Pure Reason Revolution)
Buying New Soul (Porcupine Tree)
Narcissus (Threshold)

And many more.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 10 2007 at 21:24
The Wall (the whole thing), because it's the height of theater rock
Scheherazade, because I just got it!
Tarkus, the album that got me serious about prog
Death's Crown, a lost treasure
Tales, say no more





Posted By: jiSh
Date Posted: June 11 2007 at 21:31

I'll list mine:

1) Six Degrees Of Innter Turbulence / Dream Theater - Simply amazing. The best song I have ever had the pleasure of listening to. Great opening, closing, and a sweet cream filling.
 
2) I / Meshuggah
3) The Divine Wings of Tragedy - Symphony X
4) The Oddysey / Symphony X
5) The Great Nothing - Spock's Beard
 


Posted By: THE_POLE
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 05:50
Tuleen Ajettu Maa - Moonsorrow
Wreath - Opeth(i hope it's long enough to be considered an epic)
A Place In The Queue - The Tangent
Cassandra Gemini - The Mars Volta
Thick As A Brick(pts 1&2) - Jethro Tull



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Posted By: Odyssey
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 06:13
Symphony X-The Odyssey
Black Jester-Inferno
Fates Warning-The Ivory Gate Of Dreams
Dream Theater-Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
Symphony X-The Divine Wings Of Tragedy


Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 11:52
Since Atavachron listed The Wall, I guess I can do the same with The Lamb:

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (Genesis) — a postmodern rock version of Divina Commedia
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (VdGG) — structured madness, the number one song about solitude
Thick as a Brick (Jethro Tull) — because Gerald Bostock is the Magnus Carlsen of prog rockSmile. If you don´t know MC, read about him on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen
Gates of Delirium (Yes) — what a battle! And it´s ending in beauty and hope.
Starless (King Crimson) — melancholic and beautiful, and a great minimalistic guitar solo, I think it´s in 13/8 (8+5)

But five epics are not enough. I will add two more:

Shine on You crazy Diamond (Pink Floyd) — brings tears to my eyes. Good bye, Syd. You became a ghost long before you died.
Flight (Peter Hammill) — philosophy of perception expressed in aviation metaphors. Makes a lot of sense to me!



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Posted By: Voidonaut
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 15:11
Soap Shop Rock- Amon Duul II: just way too far out, "Smoke! coming out of their eyes!, the sandy tigers are licking his hands." i love how they break down the groove so its real loose, and que a bunch of freaked out sh*t and then theyll bring the groove back in tight. Amon Duul II at their finest.

Fracture:Robert Fripp blows my mind. Some amazing guitar work on this track. Though what makes this for me is Bill Brufords drumming, it is clear from this song the influence he has had on drummers such as Danny Carey. The interplay between David Cross and Robert Fripp is wonderful, and really helps set the dark atonal mood of this track. And it goes without saying, Mr. Wetton is in fine form as always.

Atom Heart Mother: Truly an epic if ever there was, the opening transports me to a medieval court in full knight regalia, and once the groove drops in, I proceed to ride away on my badass horse to f*ck up some dragons. A plethora of different moods are found in this song, an experience in it of itself

Shoot out at the Fantasy Factory (Traffic): This is Traffic deep fried in funk, then served on a silver platter to Shaft.








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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 16:53

1.Close to the Edge  - progs finest hour
2.The Lamb lies down  -  a meander through Gabriel's alter ego
3.The Gates of Delirium  -  frenzied futility of war that brings the light
4.A Script for a Jesters Tear  - possibly the saviour of prog
5.Awaken - Wakemen at his epliletic spider best.


Posted By: evilromero
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 18:35
I can see most of the best choices have been listed. So here's my two cents.
 
1. Lines in the Sand - DT
2. Beyond the Pale - PoS
3. Stranger in your Soul - Transatlantic
4. Slave to Money - TFK (I think almost every TFK song is epic)
5. The Grinding Part II - Me (Pretty much the most epic one off song)
 
But like I said most already picked what I would throw out there anyways.


Posted By: Wishbone Ash
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 19:09
Echoes (23:29) Pink Floyd
 
2112 (20:37) Rush
 
Close To The Edge (18:41) Yes
 
Singring and the Glass Guitar(An Electrified Fairytale) (18:24) Utopia
 
Shine On You Crazy Diamond{combined segments} (26:01) Pink Floyd
 


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 19:22
A Change of Seasons- Dream Theater- they have yet to repeat the sheer epic power of this piece, though Octavarium came very very close

Cassandra Gemini- The Mars Volta- amazingly interesting song for a half hour that doesn't change key once

A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers- Van der Graaf Generator- there's just something about this song

Anesthetize- Porcupine Tree- combines all my favorite elements of their music into one 18 minute track

The Door- Neal Morse- my first Neal Morse track that I've ever heard and left quite the impression


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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 19:30

In no particular order:

The Gates of Delirium - Yes
 
Simply incredible. Every person needs to listen to this song at least once before they die. It's so groundbreaking, and unlike anything Yes had ever created before. All the musicians are at the top of their game. As soon as it hits 7:30, I get shivers. It's AMAZING.
 
Nine Feet Underground - Caravan
 
Twenty minutes of chill-out awesomeness. This song just puts me in a good mood. I just want to sit back and forget about everything.
 
Midnight Mushrumps - Gryphon
 
I don't think a group has, to me, created as consistently beautiful music as Gryphon. This track is no exception. Twenty minutes feels like ten when you listen to this song. The melodies are absolutely amazing. Every instrument fills it's role perfectly. Fantastic the entire way through, especially near the end.
 
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - Van der Graaf Generator
 
On the opposite end of the spectrum, this was one of the first songs to make me slightly uneasy, if not very scared. Listening to this song at the age of 13 at about 1:00 in the morning, I was hearing every word Peter Hammill said, and before that I had never heard such tortured lyrics. This song still remains interesting, despite me generally being a 'happy' music fan.
 
Tarkus - Emerson Lake and Palmer
 
I could listen to this song for hours and not get bored. Keith Emerson's solos never seemed like showing off; to me, it was just great music. Like Midnight Mushrumps, this song goes by incredibly fast. There's just something about the band working together so cohesively that just hooks me. Great song.



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