what Jazz/fusion album are you listening to ?
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Topic: what Jazz/fusion album are you listening to ?
Posted By: darksideof
Subject: what Jazz/fusion album are you listening to ?
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 20:36
As much as love Progressive Rock I also learned and have the privilege to contemplate,American and European'Jazz. specially ECM's artists. I thought that a lot Progressive fans here are also jazz/fusion fans as well Right? because of the big connections . As a teen when I got into prog I noticed that I lot of prog musicians were extremely influenced by Jazz players, so I was curious to listen to their music that changed thier lives. that is how I got into Jazz/fusion. so back to the real subject this what Iam listiening today. and right now.
these outstanding natural beauty of the Jazz world. what about you?
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 20:47
Acoustic jazz featuring Pat Metheny, Herbie Hancock, Jack DeJohnette and Charlie Haden.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 21:23
All the essence of Weather Report with more African rhythms (live):
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 21:25
In my car right now is "Birds of Fire"
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 21:41
Well for electric fusion: a good marriage of jazz fusion and 70's hard rock
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Posted By: william314159
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 21:44
uncle moe's space ranch (why isn't it in the archives?)
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 22:45
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 23:15
Certainly sad news to the musical world that day, how cancer eats away people awarded with such musicianship and musicality. Also one saxophone master who died (not so young, nor so recently either -2001-) was Joe Henderson; unfortunately I only managed to listen to him play for others, but I might get some of his solo works soon. And I'll also be definitely checking out that album, thanks for the reminder
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 23:31
true !!!! I don't know too well his music or his playing as much as michael, but I certainty remember the tribute to antonio carlos jobim won a grammy not that I care !!! but it was a brilliant work!!! a very underated sax player I think.!
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 23:56
Not to forget his performances with Ron Carter and Freddie Hubbard, as well as his studio work with Herbie Hancock, Flora Purim, among others.
Here's a great live Hubbard album featuring Joe on his usual tenor sax
http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1108907 - http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1108907
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 02:47
Does anyone else love Peter Erskine's jazz albums?
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 02:49
andu wrote:
Does anyone else love Peter Erskine's jazz albums?
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He played with Abercrombie, that's all I know.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 02:54
listened to this gem just yesterday
I'm for now, a jazz fan into certain jazz artists: Corea (with Return), Jarrett, E.S.T., McLaughlin (with Mahavishnu), Surman, Garbarek, Eberhard Weber.
Not that I won't expand to much more. As soon as possible.
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 03:17
Ricochet wrote:
andu wrote:
Does anyone else love Peter Erskine's jazz albums?
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He played with Abercrombie, that's all I know.
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Then I'm recommending you
http://www.amazon.com/Time-Being-Peter-Erskine/dp/B000024EJE/ref=sr_1_9/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-9"> |
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http://www.amazon.com/Time-Being-Peter-Erskine/dp/B000024EJE/ref=sr_1_9/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-9 - - Time Being
by http://www.amazon.com/Palle-Danielsson/artist/B000APYVXC/103-6017873-0505422 - Palle Danielsson , http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Erskine/artist/B000AQ2BEW/103-6017873-0505422 - Peter Erskine , and http://www.amazon.com/John-%28Jazz%29-Taylor/artist/B000AQ71H4/103-6017873-0505422 - John (Jazz) Taylor (Audio CD - 2000) - Original recording reissued
and also
http://www.amazon.com/You-Never-Know-Peter-Erskine/dp/B0000031XP/ref=sr_1_8/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-8"> |
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http://www.amazon.com/You-Never-Know-Peter-Erskine/dp/B0000031XP/ref=sr_1_8/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-8 - - You Never Know
by http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Erskine/artist/B000AQ2BEW/103-6017873-0505422 - Peter Erskine (Audio CD - 1994)
I can't tell you about quality as I'm no connaisseur here, but I like them a lot and I know we share taste. I like the compositions, the piano playing, and of course there's Erskine at the drums.
Also recently I've been going through and through the Marius Popp discography
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 03:19
Ricochet wrote:
I'm for now, a jazz fan into certain jazz artists: Corea (with Return), Jarrett, E.S.T., McLaughlin (with Mahavishnu), Surman, Garbarek, Eberhard Weber.
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Yeah right... but you wouldn't go see them live if they came to play at 100 km from your home and you had to make some sacrifices. Halal fan!
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 04:10
im a huge jazz and jazz-fusion fan besides prog and other sorts.
right now im listening to one of my favorite fusion albums. Steve Jenkins - "Mad Science" it's a sick album with some tightest songs ive ever heard. Dave Fuseinski is on the album (not sure how to spell his last name)
some of my overall favorite jazz-fusion albums... all HIGHLY recommended!
Dennis Chambers - "Outbreak"
Miles Davis - "Live-Evil"
Frank Zappa - "The Grand Wazoo"
Frank Zappa - "Sleep Dirt"
Billy Cobham - "Spectrum"
Herbie Hancock - "Thrust"
Return to Forever - "Where Have I Known You Before"
John Scofield - "Pick Hits Live"
Pat Metheny Group - "The Road To You"
Pat Metheny - "Bright Size Life"
Billy Cobham/George Duke Band - "Live On Tour In Europe"
it's also interesting to note how many prog artists incorporated jazz fusion into their music at some point. bands like Gentle Giant, Pink Floyd, YES, Transatlantic and others.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 04:18
is that "The Leprachaun"? if it is, which i think it is, it's a very underrated and under-acknowledged fusion masterwork. there's some great music on there. Another of his more appreciated fusion albums is "The Mad Hatter". some serious stuff on there.
have you ever checked out Chick Corea Elektrik Band?
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 05:02
andu wrote:
Does anyone else love Peter Erskine's jazz albums? |
Love his Zappa tribute (I presume) New Regalia, but I forget which 80's Erskine album?
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 05:04
darkshade wrote:
have you ever checked out Chick Corea Elektrik Band? |
This came up on a thread ~ a month ago. Then Elektric Band were not treated that kindly compared to RTF
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 05:17
Still surprised how often 70's recording predominate people's lists of favourite jazz rock fusion - in some instances the their lists are exclusively 70's recordings. After a bit of low in the 80's (but Holdworth and Metheny came into their own), IMHO jazz rock fusion thrives and really progresses, even though many of these new recordings are issued by the artists themselves or on specialist indie labels.
Check out the following - the first eight or so that come to mind:
Garaj Mahal, Fareeq Hague Group, Wayne Krantz, Project Z, Hectic Watermelon (USA)
Panzerballett, Electric Outlet , Susan Weinert (Germany)
Alex Machacek, Conrad Schrenk (Austria)
And then there is the newer sub-genre of nu-fusion/nu jazz, e.g. Polar Bear, Acoustic Ladyland, EST, Bugge Wesseltoft, Bad Plus, Jaga jazzist etc.
Even the more established fusion artists move one. There is an excellent new cutting edge fusion album by guitar master David Torn, Prezens released by ECM REcords.
Just sticking with 70's bands and recordings, would imply folks are only just scratching a rather crusty surface of the jazz rock fusion genre.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 05:35
CAB with Auger, Brunnel, MacAlpine and Chambers.. CAB 2 especially good. Niacin also excellent, 'Organik' one of the best releases of 2005. Some great Japanese bands like Naikaku doing rock-fusion as well.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 06:18
Just borrowed some John Abercrombie and Jonas Hellborg albums from the library. Haven't listened to either yet, but from what I've read, they should be right up my alley.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 06:45
Jimbo wrote:
Just borrowed some John Abercrombie and Jonas Hellborg albums from the library. Haven't listened to either yet, but from what I've read, they should be right up my alley. |
Jonas Hellborg has been one of the major jazz rock fusion musicians of the last 15 years - check out his PA entry. Recommend Jonas Hellborg Group e (doing Niacin-type fusion before Niacin ever formed, and Johansson brothers in mighty good form); Hellborg/Buckethead/Shrieve: Octave Of the Holy Innocents, (but not the remix released 2003), and anything by Hellborg and Shawn Lane (what ~6 live and studio albums, ranging from jazz rock to world fusion?). Also an excellent collaboration by Jens Johansson and Hellborg on Ginger Baker's late 80's Unseen Rain recording.
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 11:02
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 11:21
Dick Heath wrote:
Still surprised how often 70's recording predominate people's lists of favourite jazz rock fusion - in some instances the their lists are exclusively 70's recordings. After a bit of low in the 80's (but Holdworth and Metheny came into their own), IMHO jazz rock fusion thrives and really progresses, even though many of these new recordings are issued by the artists themselves or on specialist indie labels.
Check out the following - the first eight or so that come to mind:
Garaj Mahal, Fareeq Hague Group, Wayne Krantz, Project Z, Hectic Watermelon (USA)
Panzerballett, Electric Outlet , Susan Weinert (Germany)
Alex Machacek, Conrad Schrenk (Austria)
And then there is the newer sub-genre of nu-fusion/nu jazz, e.g. Polar Bear, Acoustic Ladyland, EST, Bugge Wesseltoft, Bad Plus, Jaga jazzist etc.
Even the more established fusion artists move one. There is an excellent new cutting edge fusion album by guitar master David Torn, Prezens released by ECM REcords.
Just sticking with 70's bands and recordings, would imply folks are only just scratching a rather crusty surface of the jazz rock fusion genre. |
I don't yet know much about this genre but I can also recommend Hectic Watermelon and Prezens. I can also recommend a band from my home county of Surrey called Sphere³ (that's supposed to be Sphere cubed btw). Check them out at http://www.sphere3.co.uk/ - http://www.sphere3.co.uk/ .
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:00
Not to forget Karcius, recently ordered the album Kaleidoscope and it's on the way, I reckon.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:01
andu wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
andu wrote:
Does anyone else love Peter Erskine's jazz albums?
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He played with Abercrombie, that's all I know.
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Then I'm recommending you
http://www.amazon.com/Time-Being-Peter-Erskine/dp/B000024EJE/ref=sr_1_9/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-9"> |
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http://www.amazon.com/Time-Being-Peter-Erskine/dp/B000024EJE/ref=sr_1_9/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-9 - Time Being
by http://www.amazon.com/Palle-Danielsson/artist/B000APYVXC/103-6017873-0505422 - Palle Danielsson , http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Erskine/artist/B000AQ2BEW/103-6017873-0505422 - Peter Erskine , and http://www.amazon.com/John-%28Jazz%29-Taylor/artist/B000AQ71H4/103-6017873-0505422 - John (Jazz) Taylor (Audio CD - 2000) - Original recording reissued
and also
http://www.amazon.com/You-Never-Know-Peter-Erskine/dp/B0000031XP/ref=sr_1_8/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-8"> |
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http://www.amazon.com/You-Never-Know-Peter-Erskine/dp/B0000031XP/ref=sr_1_8/103-6017873-0505422?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178002978&sr=1-8 - You Never Know
by http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Erskine/artist/B000AQ2BEW/103-6017873-0505422 - Peter Erskine (Audio CD - 1994)
I can't tell you about quality as I'm no connaisseur here, but I like them a lot and I know we share taste. I like the compositions, the piano playing, and of course there's Erskine at the drums.
Also recently I've been going through and through the Marius Popp discography
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:04
darkshade wrote:
is that "The Leprachaun"? if it is, which i think it is, it's a very underrated and under-acknowledged fusion masterwork. there's some great music on there. Another of his more appreciated fusion albums is "The Mad Hatter". some serious stuff on there.
have you ever checked out Chick Corea Elektrik Band? |
Indeed, I find it a very good work and one of the main fusion albums Corea has put. The Mad Hatter is excellent too, "Dear Alice" is one of my favorite splendid jazz compositions ever.
I checked out mostly everything Chick Corea made (though it's tricky to say everything, God knows what, where, with who and how much these jazzists play ), the Elektrik Taste is slightly off-garde at something beyond improvisation and music mood. Some things work, some don't.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:04
andu wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
I'm for now, a jazz fan into certain jazz artists: Corea (with Return), Jarrett, E.S.T., McLaughlin (with Mahavishnu), Surman, Garbarek, Eberhard Weber.
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Yeah right... but you wouldn't go see them live if they came to play at 100 km from your home and you had to make some sacrifices. Halal fan!
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If this is about Garana, I said I'd like to stay in a granny's house, as a guest, for 100 bucks the night, than to sleep with the flies, as to see Garbarek .
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 12:16
Larry Coryell - Spaces
Larry Coryell -Electric and Acoustic Guitar
John McLaughlin - Electric and Acoustic Guitar
Chick Corea - Elecric Piano
Mirosalv Vitous - Bass
Billy Cobham - Drums
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 13:05
Ricochet wrote:
darkshade wrote:
is that "The Leprachaun"? if it is, which i think it is, it's a very underrated and under-acknowledged fusion masterwork. there's some great music on there. Another of his more appreciated fusion albums is "The Mad Hatter". some serious stuff on there.
have you ever checked out Chick Corea Elektrik Band? |
Indeed, I find it a very good work and one of the main fusion albums Corea has put. The Mad Hatter is excellent too, "Dear Alice" is one of my favorite splendid jazz compositions ever.
I checked out mostly everything Chick Corea made (though it's tricky to say everything, God knows what, where, with who and how much these jazzists play ), the Elektrik Taste is slightly off-garde at something beyond improvisation and music mood. Some things work, some don't.
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The Mad Hatter is a very nice blend of jazz with contemporary classical (academic), last time I heard. I even dare say it's sole existence is reason enough to grant Chick Corea a place here (not to forget Leprechaun)
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 14:33
I have this album for years in my collection and I gave a try today. it really good it has this big band bep bop feeling to it.
ryan Kisor trumpet
Mulgrew Miller Piano
Lewis Nash Drums
Chris Mcbride Bass the only player I know.
mark Turner Tenor sax
david sanchez Tenor Sax
Chis Potter Alto sax
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 15:04
someone mentioned a lot of lists people put feature predominately 70's recordings. now, it's true the 70's were a thriving time for the genre, i think that fusion has gained more momentum in recent years, especially these days. i cant say im a fan of much fusion in the 80s - about 1992, except CCEB, Metheny, Jaco, etc...
o and i found out the steve jenkins album i mentioned earlier can actually be bought on iTunes for really cheap.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 15:34
I like a lot of jazz/fusion. Right now I'm listening to:
I recommend a Polish fusion band http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2857 - LABORATORIUM
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 15:45
Chus wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
darkshade wrote:
is that "The Leprachaun"? if it is, which i think it is, it's a very underrated and under-acknowledged fusion masterwork. there's some great music on there. Another of his more appreciated fusion albums is "The Mad Hatter". some serious stuff on there.
have you ever checked out Chick Corea Elektrik Band? |
Indeed, I find it a very good work and one of the main fusion albums Corea has put. The Mad Hatter is excellent too, "Dear Alice" is one of my favorite splendid jazz compositions ever.
I checked out mostly everything Chick Corea made (though it's tricky to say everything, God knows what, where, with who and how much these jazzists play ), the Elektrik Taste is slightly off-garde at something beyond improvisation and music mood. Some things work, some don't.
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The Mad Hatter is a very nice blend of jazz with contemporary classical (academic), last time I heard. I even dare say it's sole existence is reason enough to grant Chick Corea a place here (not to forget Leprechaun) |
And I concur. Corea played too few fusion albums to have a jazz position here. My "two cents", but I reckon Corea composed fusion only in albums like Leprechaun, Friends, The Mad Hatter, perhaps Tap Dance (Touchstone?)
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 22:01
Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 01:00
i've seen it my local store. is it more jazz funk like Headhunters or jazz rock like Weather Report etc?
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 08:23
superprog wrote:
i've seen it my local store. is it more jazz funk like Headhunters or jazz rock like Weather Report etc? | David Sancious very much has his own sound but IMO this album is more of a cross between Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return to Forever (with a dash of Emerson Lake & Palmer added for good measure).
P.S. listen for some great drumming by the best drummer you've never heard of Ernest "Boom" Carter.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 08:32
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 09:37
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 10:00
I would add the magnificent sound of guitar of Norwegian master: TERJE RYPDAL.
Try ODYSSEY or WhENEVER I SEEM TO BE FAR AWAY or IF MOUNTAINS COULD SING...............cosmic jazz for me!
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 13:09
My collection is at start so there's nit much jazz in it, but it's all good:
I'll get back with the words, now it's time for lunch.
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 14:22
Here's one for the guitar nerds like me
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 14:34
Chus wrote:
Here's one for the guitar nerds like me
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I have seen him several times and mike is awesome!!!!
Idon' t have this album how is it?
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 16:27
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 16:42
darksideof wrote:
Chus wrote:
Here's one for the guitar nerds like me
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I have seen him several times and mike is awesome!!!!
Idon' t have this album how is it? |
Excellent, lots of dynamics jam sessions and modern jazz pieces. Mike's improvisational approach is as good as always has been; recommended also for fans of scatting .
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 17:24
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 23:55
I love this topic !!! because i can get to see all album cover of all my fav fusion albums and I can see that you guys have the same great taste as me!!! i want to comment on all of them.!!!
I just did buy this album whao...... I haven't listen to it for years since the late 80's when I had it on vinil. Also it was not available in the USA on cd intil recent years if I am not mistaken and I forgot all about it for a while I just went to Virgil to pick up the last Porcupine Tree album ( becauss of what I heard last time I saw them Live I Know it is brilliant work in my opinon much better album than the last album), so, I went the Jazz section at virgin and I saw this album. It brought a great smiles to my face because of all the great memories.I hadlistening to fusion classic album and chick's RTFstuff. I picked up and took home with a refreshing feeling. This is the magic about music. Brilliant Work.
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 02:05
right Now !!! Great stuff!!!!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 05:21
Nyugen Le is superb - first heard him on Tales From Viet Nam and its wonderful fusion of Vietnamese folk and jaz zrock (sometimes ala Allan Holdsworth). 3 Trios is most excellent. Also recommend his Hendrix tribute Purple.
BTW anybody heard the latest Hiromi album, I understand David Fuze Fuiczynski guests on guitar, and in my books he can do no wrong?
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 08:35
Often wrongfully (IMO) aligned with "smooth-jazz" back in their hey day (early to mid 90s) I always thought that the Rippingtons were the next evolution of fusion. They've mellowed a bit since then and have turned slightly more toward a latin sound but still a very good listen. IMO their best release from back in the day with the classic line-up:
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 08:55
Graham Collier Music - Portraits (1972)
Graham Collier (bass); Dick Pearce (flugelhorn); Peter Hurt (alto sax); Ed Speight (guitar); Geoff Castle (piano); John Webb (drums). Recorded at RG jones Studios, Wimbledon, London, England on November 16 & 17, 1972.
''Issued in 1973 after a pair of recording dates in late 1972, Portraits sees Collier revisiting his notion explored on Mosaics -- the working out of longer forms. Three selections make up the album, the two-part "And Now For Something Completely Different," and the nearly 11-minute title track. The ensemble on Collier's Portraits contains only drummer John Webb, and pianist Geoff Castle from Collier's previous few outings, and includes only one saxophonist, Pete Hurt. Dick Pearce is in the brass chair, and Ed Speight is added on guitar. Musically, the exotica present on Mosaics has gone by the wayside in place of a more solidly modal attack that gives play to rock thematics in terms not only of texture, but of architecture. Collier paid close attention to Miles Davis' In A Silent Way, and took from it its sense of propulsive dynamics, and its repetition, while opening up the modes to a more swinging jazz vocabulary. On the suite, riffs take the place of front line melodies, and the modes that come from them are spun out of a clipped series of notes that wind around the rhythm section in a nearly hypnotic way. "Portraits I" is also Milesian, but more in the sense of the quintet's longer reaching palette of modal interstition and elocution. A restrained palette is employed as a way of exploiting all of its chromatic elements, and then inverting them in on themselves. Language between the soloists is overlapping and entwined, rather than oppositional. Time signatures do not vary, but the series of tension placed on one note over another seems to vary, according to arbitrary tonal considerations. This is a more laid-back, yet more challenging listen than any previous Collier outing, but it also dates as one of the best.'' ~ Thom Jurek, All Music Guide
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 12:43
Holdsworth, Pasqua, Haslip & Wackerman this coming Sunday!!!!
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 17:35
dwill123 wrote:
Often wrongfully (IMO) aligned with "smooth-jazz" back in their hey day (early to mid 90s) I always thought that the Rippingtons were the next evolution of fusion. They've mellowed a bit since then and have turned slightly more toward a latin sound but still a very good listen. IMO their best release from back in the day with the classic line-up:
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Yellowjackets were also one of those bands mislabeled as smooth, even if they were not as experimental as early jazz-rock was (add a funkier sound, without sounding fusak). Their later albums (Dreamland, for example) did also have some latin jazz inflections, last time I heard it (then again it was long ago, so not sure in which measure the latin jazz was there).
Another one of these smooth jazz albums which have at least one or two jazz-rock gems
The title track is a full-fledge JR/F (prog) track
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 00:31
on that note early albums by Jap fusion band Casiopea are pretty good too!!! Eyes of The Mind is great stuff.......
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:41
There wasa sort of reunion album from Yellowjackets 3 or so years ago. I agree twith Chus, that there wasa perception of Yellowjackets and the Rippingtons being smooth jazz - but that was the danger when reviewers knew each band was signed to the home of smooth/fuzac GRP Records. And I would say a couple of Rippington albums were bland and I can't listen to them nowadays. And I have a love hate relationship with some of that period Yellowjackets' releases - love for instance the live album with Michael Franks (something of an acquire taste in jazz vocalists) . Seeing Haslip with Holdsworth on Sunday - if the opportunity arise I'll ask him whether there will be another Yellowjackets recording.
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 08:43
A classic, and possibly his best.
Saw him live once, BTW -- terrific!
Great stuff -- like all JB albums from Blow by Blow on.
I enjoy all forms of jazz, BTW -- that's right Dick, even "smooth" jazz (which I find cheerful).
------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 10:52
Peter wrote:
I enjoy all forms of jazz, BTW -- that's right Dick, even "smooth" jazz (which I find cheerful).
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I missed that line in Ian Drury's Reasons To Be Cheerful Part 3 - must have been in parts 1 or 2? But then Ian was a Ornette Coleman freak - but wasn't adverse at ripping off the bassline from a Coleman tune, for Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick.
Tune in next week for tangential rhubarb!!! (Cue music)
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Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 12:09
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 13:15
Dick Heath wrote:
... I would say a couple of Rippington albums were bland and I can't listen to them nowadays. | The Rippingtons had a string of really good releases from about 1991 to about 1998. All mostly with what I refer to as the classic line-up (Freeman, Morales, Stone, Portman, Kashiwa and Reid). After 1998 (and maybe even earlier) they started losing their way and key members left the band. I too have not liked much of what they have released in quite sometime. But they were so good in the 90s, I keep hoping.
Curves Ahead (1991)
Weekend in Monaco (1992)
Live In L.A. (1993)
Sahara (1994)
Brave New World (1996)
Black Diamond (1997)
Best Of The Rippingtons (1997)
Topaz (1998)
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 13:33
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Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 01:56
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 16:36
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 23:05
Flora Purim and her rockiest/funkiest album
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 16:06
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 06 2007 at 16:12
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 15:51
Ricochet wrote:
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and everything else this beautiful musician had made.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 07:50
Cline, Cline & Peet 1995 Lifetime Tribute
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 16:31
Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 17:10
------------- 'Sundown,yellow moon, I replay the past
I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast.....
Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.'
Bob Dylan
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 17:14
The Way Up: Pat Metheney
------------- C'est la vie
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 19:19
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Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:26
Dick Heath wrote:
darkshade wrote:
have you ever checked out Chick Corea Elektrik Band? |
This came up on a thread ~ a month ago. Then Elektric Band were not treated that kindly compared to RTF |
the dvd is amazing
and john pattituci is awesome.
right now i'm diggin the yellow jackets. mint jam.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 05:04
fungusucantkill wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
darkshade wrote:
have you ever checked out Chick Corea Elektrik Band? |
This came up on a thread ~ a month ago. Then Elektric Band were not treated that kindly compared to RTF |
the dvd is amazing
and john pattituci is awesome.
right now i'm diggin the yellow jackets. mint jam. |
I saw Chick Corea Electric Band live at the Mtl Jazz Festival three years ago. Very cool !
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 09:01
Couldn't find the cover. I'm lisening to Jacques Thollot: Watch Devil Go from '75. My favorite avantjazz-fusion album for the time being.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 09:04
true. I just listened to Chorus, I think it's a prime album for Weber (equally stands The Colors Of Chloe and Fluid Rustle)
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 09:05
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 11:09
back to Miles!!!
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 11:12
I love that album as wellas the first gateway.
It is not my fav's abercrombie but one of them.
I also love this one.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 11:23
This band is coming to the Montreal Jazz Festival. So, our jazz festival is not " kétaine" at all, and not only musique for "matantes".
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 23:59
whao what a treat!!!!!
I've seen them about 10 years ago at teh blue note.
it was awesome.!!
what a band!!!
Jack hit those drums like he was pissed whao so old ans so powerfull!!!
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 10 2007 at 00:09
one of his very first albums the man was all ready a machine !!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 10 2007 at 22:44
a bit of world/ethnic/folk jazz fusion
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 01:18
darksideof wrote:
I love that album as wellas the first gateway.
It is not my fav's abercrombie but one of them.
I also love this one. |
oy, I'm a big fan of Abercrombie. I just reviewed the classic period of it, and will soon move on to the next.
Basically, for me, excellent Abercrombies are:
- Gateway
- Gateway 2
- Characters
- Arcade
- M
- Animato (the rest of the 80s are a bit edgy...)
- November
- Gateway: Homecoming
- Tactics
- Cat 'n' Mouse (a great nu-jazzy style, I totally love the violin interpretation, and the rest is sufficiently wonderful)
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 13:39
Ricochet wrote:
darksideof wrote:
I love that album as wellas the first gateway.
It is not my fav's abercrombie but one of them.
I also love this one. |
oy, I'm a big fan of Abercrombie. I just reviewed the classic period of it, and will soon move on to the next.
Basically, for me, excellent Abercrombies are:
- Gateway
- Gateway 2
- Characters
- Arcade
- M
- Animato (the rest of the 80s are a bit edgy...)
- November
- Gateway: Homecoming
- Tactics
- Cat 'n' Mouse (a great nu-jazzy style, I totally love the violin interpretation, and the rest is sufficiently wonderful)
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Don't forget Night - the follow up to Timeless and Michael Brecker adding to the proceedings.
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 14:32
Dick Heath wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
darksideof wrote:
I love that album as wellas the first gateway.
It is not my fav's abercrombie but one of them.
I also love this one. |
oy, I'm a big fan of Abercrombie. I just reviewed the classic period of it, and will soon move on to the next.
Basically, for me, excellent Abercrombies are:
- Gateway
- Gateway 2
- Characters
- Arcade
- M
- Animato (the rest of the 80s are a bit edgy...)
- November
- Gateway: Homecoming
- Tactics
- Cat 'n' Mouse (a great nu-jazzy style, I totally love the violin interpretation, and the rest is sufficiently wonderful)
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Don't forget Night - the follow up to Timeless and Michael Brecker adding to the proceedings. |
And also don't forget, Getting There, Current Event.
And the 70's album he did with Ralph Tonwer Sargasso Sea Gorgeous music.
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 23:00
------------- Jesus Gabriel
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 06:56
Said it elsewhere but Jazz Pistol's 4th album Live is currently hitting my sweet point.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 10:22
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 10:30
darksideof wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
darksideof wrote:
I love that album as wellas the first gateway.
It is not my fav's abercrombie but one of them.
I also love this one. |
oy, I'm a big fan of Abercrombie. I just reviewed the classic period of it, and will soon move on to the next.
Basically, for me, excellent Abercrombies are:
- Gateway
- Gateway 2
- Characters
- Arcade
- M
- Animato (the rest of the 80s are a bit edgy...)
- November
- Gateway: Homecoming
- Tactics
- Cat 'n' Mouse (a great nu-jazzy style, I totally love the violin interpretation, and the rest is sufficiently wonderful)
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Don't forget Night - the follow up to Timeless and Michael Brecker adding to the proceedings. |
And also don't forget, Getting There, Current Event.
And the 70's album he did with Ralph Tonwer Sargasso Sea Gorgeous music. |
I won't forget Night, but I already said that the 80s are a bit edgy. So Getting There and Current Event are so-so.
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 11:19
Chus wrote:
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incredible new album!!!
I think their 2 last album had been wonderful.
I always have been a metheny gruop fans for years and I love their 70 a nd 80 cd but when letter from home and we live here came out it was a big disapointment. I think we live here is the worst pat metheny group album. It is too por/r&B jazz not of my taste. however after imanginary day it feel that pat got tire of all comercial crap( smooth Jazz) and when back to his root. this new vesion of the band I think it is best as well the classic pat metheny gruop with mark, danny and nana.
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 11:24
I read some where I can't remmeber where that it said that all the 80's ecm album sounded so similar to pat repertory. May be they right cause when you listen to specially abercrombie in the 80's he was using that synth guitar sound like pat and in the 80's they were time that thought that it was pat playing, But I still liek a lot abercrombie albums form the 80's.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 15:48
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 15:49
Charlie Hunter Trio - "Copperopolis"
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 15:55
Chus wrote:
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I have this album, my friend. Just haven't went yet into Metheny.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 16:05
WHAT A GLORIOUS ALBUM!
Also a favorite is "Parallel Realities Live" which feature Jack deJohnette, Pat Metheny, Herbie Hancock and Dave Holland!
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 16:18
Does anybody know Laboratorium? They're great!
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 16:22
Tuzvihar wrote:
Does anybody know Laboratorium? They're great!
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I want to get an album, but I have to wait until I have money to order....
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 23:26
dwill123 wrote:
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my fav mahavishnu album very underated by the fans but is so heavy and prog/fusion awesome.!!!
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 23:31
I always heard their names, but I never heard their music until now:
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
Wow!
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