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Topic: Basic characteristics of your culture.
Posted By: Angeldust
Subject: Basic characteristics of your culture.
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:06
Well,just point out some characteristics that pretty much everybody in your country has.

I'll start ,by saying that we get excited VERY easily.Which is actually bad since we are usually disappointed really easily too!(and that's true for about everybody in Greece)


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:10
Friendly people. Lots of wine, weird feeling of derrotism, low interest in politics or civil participation. Horrible habits of throwing garbage everywhere, low culture, low appreciation of culture, just one band to really care about in the whole country. Too much into one sport (soccer). Warm at heart, somehow.

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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:35
We follow trends like zombies
We're Party people (sometimes too much)
We don't take life as seriously as it should
We're very aggressive when pushed too far
We talk too loud and too fast
We're very friendly we people we rarely know
We have our heads up our arse most of the time (sadly)
We're very close with our families and friends



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Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:44
Lot's of the characteristics you mentioned are really common here.Puerto rico seems like a great place to visit Cool


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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 16:12
We complain all the time.


Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:23
Trendy people (very USA influenced)
Partying people


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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:27
We are strict conservatists.
And we are afraid of the Soviet Russia, even though it no longer exists.
And we love the USA on a political level, not locally though, we all hate it.
we don't talk to people unless necessary. And if we might happen to, we feel uncomfortable.


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:37
Except for a small few, myself mostly excluded:

We are easily swayed by media/political propaganda
We are speculative of the government except in the aftermath of a crisis
We love to watch TV
We don't learn lessons from the past
We appreciate good (and bad) food
Once a fad gets started, it takes us FOREVER to lose it


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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:41
Hm.....that's pretty tough. This is pretty much how I best describe our culture.
USA! USA! USA!
 
LOL
Yea, that's the best I can do off the top of my head.


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:41
We're dumber than dirt.
 
/wish I was kidding Disapprove


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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:43
on tuesdays people are only allowed to walk in a straight line. no turning is allowed
it's mandatory to take two sugars with your tea
no-one starts riots because we're worried about the condition of the roads
yellow is in
the price of everything ends in .99
if you don't live vicariously through a football team then you don't get tax rebates


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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:48

Irish - we umm have been known to like a drink now and again....



Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:48
we spend an hour celebrating our own birthday, a day celebrating a saint's birthday, a second celebrating a celebrity's achievements and a decade mourning their death
lines are painted on the roads and nobody cares
if you don't say hello to people you pass in the street you'll never see again then you're a psychopath


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:51
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Except for a small few, myself mostly excluded:

We are easily swayed by media/political propaganda
We are speculative of the government except in the aftermath of a crisis
We love to watch TV
We don't learn lessons from the past
We appreciate good (and bad) food
Once a fad gets started, it takes us FOREVER to lose it
I think that's spot on except for the last one. Our attention spans are way to short. We just need to be distracted by another shiny fad and we'll flock.
Basically, to describe modern American culture, think the Roman Empire right before it fell.


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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:53
Originally posted by Angeldust Angeldust wrote:

Lot's of the characteristics you mentioned are really common here.Puerto rico seems like a great place to visit Cool

It is. Just try to avoid the summer heat and enjoy the nature more than the urban areas and you'll leave here with great experiences. Thumbs%20Up



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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:58
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Except for a small few, myself mostly excluded:

We are easily swayed by media/political propaganda
We are speculative of the government except in the aftermath of a crisis
We love to watch TV
We don't learn lessons from the past
We appreciate good (and bad) food
Once a fad gets started, it takes us FOREVER to lose it


We're detached from our families and friends and try to reconnect using electronic mediums yet fail
We're obsessed with fitting in
Shallow things are cherished over deep ones
Intelligence is scoffed at
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength


CoolBig Brother is Watching You



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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:59
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Except for a small few, myself mostly excluded:

We are easily swayed by media/political propaganda
We are speculative of the government except in the aftermath of a crisis
We love to watch TV
We don't learn lessons from the past
We appreciate good (and bad) food
Once a fad gets started, it takes us FOREVER to lose it


We're detached from our families and friends and try to reconnect using electronic mediums yet fail
We're obsessed with fitting in
Shallow things are cherished over deep ones
Intelligence is scoffed at
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength


CoolBig Brother is Watching You


That one is not so much with just us, but with a lot of cultures and societies. Most youths and teenagers always go through these struggles, not just Americans.


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 20:00
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Except for a small few, myself mostly excluded:

We are easily swayed by media/political propaganda
We are speculative of the government except in the aftermath of a crisis
We love to watch TV
We don't learn lessons from the past
We appreciate good (and bad) food
Once a fad gets started, it takes us FOREVER to lose it


We're detached from our families and friends and try to reconnect using electronic mediums yet fail
We're obsessed with fitting in
Shallow things are cherished over deep ones
Intelligence is scoffed at
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength


CoolBig Brother is Watching You


That one is not so much with just us, but with a lot of cultures and societies. Most youths and teenagers always go through these struggles, not just Americans.


yeah, sorry, kinda went for a broader spectrum of things and didn't stay off topic and got off onto an already dead reference tangentEmbarrassed


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 20:01
Don't mind Josh, he just thinks quoting 1984 will make him cool. Talk about being obsessed with fitting in. Wink

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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 20:02
when anyone is asked who their favourite guitarist is they say hendrix but can't explain why

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 20:03
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Don't mind Josh, he just thinks quoting 1984 will make him cool. Talk about being obsessed with fitting in. Wink


did you not miss the "intelligence is scoffed at" thing in my list? also, Dan thinks pointing out people's weaknesses will make him cool. This post is just oozing with irony


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 20:06
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Don't mind Josh, he just thinks quoting 1984 will make him cool. Talk about being obsessed with fitting in. Wink


did you not miss the "intelligence is scoffed at" thing in my list? also, Dan thinks pointing out people's weaknesses will make him cool. This post is just oozing with irony
Well I don't constantly go out of my way to point out weaknesses like the way you make your 1984 references. And the intelligence has nothing to do with this. You're going out of your way to be a Jimmy clone and don't you deny it!
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 21:24
Razor blades, blood, tears, misunderstanding, hate of life, pessimism, morbdity, anger.

emo culture.

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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 21:57
We dont have a culture, but a mix of people with cultural pride scowling at eachother and hating one another.

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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 21:58
Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

We dont have a culture, but a mix of people with cultural pride scowling at eachother and hating one another.


I thought you had your own country...

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Posted By: william314159
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 23:33
we like to use external things to medicate internal problems


Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 04:26
Swedes tend to think they're very important and that everybody respects them, when in reality it's the other way 'round. I must escape this country as soon as possible...


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 05:36

It's hard to point out common Belgian characteristics since the country is divided between Flemish and Francophones (55-45) and they are very different (even if some are trying to deny that in order to keep the country together)

 

But:

- we love our beers and good foods
- We practice self-derision to the sublime. Surrealim is more than just a second nature, it is an art of living
- While not agreeing with recent US world policies, the vast majority still loves US and generally what works (arts or trends) there, usually ends up worling here.
- we all think that the grass is greener elsewhere, but looking at the rain falling on our country, we should know better. Those wanting to investigate other pastures usually end up coming back.


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 06:29

We are possibly the most culturally diverse country in the world but it is very difficult to define a particular cultural perspective that can be attached us (probably for that very reason)

Sports mad
Powerful consumers of anything American
but gaining an appreciation for the sleeping giant to the north
Voting is compulsory but we do not necessarily use our minds in the process (Yes a world wide phenomena)
We consume a great deal of alcohol (It used to be beer but now Australian wine has become world class so we drink heaps of great Pinot, Chardonnay etc) and consume a vast array of culinary delights
We were considered easy going but now work, on average, some of the longest hours in the western world.
We love 'taking the mickey'
We have more space per head of population than anywhere else in the world (Thats liveable) so we love our quarter acre blocks and shed out the back
Generally self reliant
Over 30% of the population now choose to live on their own
Over 90% of us live on or near the ocean (many surfers)
Either losing or have lost alot of traditional values regarding neighbourliness and have been strongly influenced by political rhetoric regarding 'the enemy' to our civilisation.
In the process, have become more insular and individualistic
Generally quite materialistic although can be unusally generous
Over 30% of teenagers have  Chlamydia
 


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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 07:57
The Dutch are very down-to-earth, have a general 'act normal, you act weird enough anyway' attitude and like to complain about their wealth.

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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 14:25
Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and chevrolet.Clown


Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 14:27
Vanity


Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 14:35
Big%20smileST.GEORGE'S DAY!
 


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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 14:56
This thing:



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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 17:07

I think Italians are so obsessed by being elegant that sometimes they end up doing something genial.



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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 21:38
speaking of quebec:
 
our women abuse too much of their rights.
 
the average Joe lives a deep identity crisis: he wonders what is his role in the society as a father
 
people with permanent bad breath are forever singles
 
more than anywhere, the woman chooses her partner
 
our province  is feminized.
 
every home interior is designed by women (violet walls, flowers as ornaments, tons of mirrors, brass/china  handles)
 
many women try with other women just for having fun
 
the goal of young women here is to have fun, nothng else.
 
i think the worst nightmare here for a young woman is to spend the  night alone.
 
sounds like i had a bad day? YEP
 
HOPE this helps
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 21:50
 
Everything is prodused in an oversea factory
nothing is sacred
Art is scoffed at
evrything that isnt from a corperation is not cool
love is taboo
people belive things but cant explain the reson
no one cares about anyone else
evryone wants $, and thats all they want
people will do anything they are told to
no one thinks for themselves
we go to church evry sunday, but wear pentigrams during the week
we complain about crime but steal when we want too
we worry about obesity but eat huge meals
we are disturbed by global warming, from the convenience of our cars
we expect corperations to want to help people
we cant make up our minds
we only have two choices of belief systems (republican christion or athiest democrat)
we act like we want to be better people but never try
we dont believe in anything at all


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 01:23
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

 
Everything is prodused in an oversea factory
nothing is sacred
Art is scoffed at
evrything that isnt from a corperation is not cool
love is taboo
people belive things but cant explain the reson
no one cares about anyone else
evryone wants $, and thats all they want
people will do anything they are told to
no one thinks for themselves
we go to church evry sunday, but wear pentigrams during the week
we complain about crime but steal when we want too
we worry about obesity but eat huge meals
we are disturbed by global warming, from the convenience of our cars
we expect corperations to want to help people
we cant make up our minds
we only have two choices of belief systems (republican christion or athiest democrat)
we act like we want to be better people but never try
we dont believe in anything at all


but you know what? We can make a f**king great apple pie!Tongue


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Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 01:41
Swedes are generally silent.
Sweden belongs to the Vodka countries along with Finland and Russia etc.
Scandinavians in general likes nature. Our churches are more designed to be a place of nature worship instead of that God no one believes in anyway. 


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 08:07
The English love their sheds

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Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 13:12
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Italians: always searching for the best abroad, all around the world... even when it's just under their bloody noses  Angry
 
 
 


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 25 2007 at 13:31
Ukraine

                        - negative -

Thiefs and cheaters rule the country

Bureaucracy is a national policy

You must be drunk to be Ukrainian. I'm not use alcohol, so I'm kinda stranger

Everybody are possessed with media and gave up their own ways of thinking

The youth is doomed on dying from cheap drugs and sex dicesases



                        - positive -
Salo
Borsch
Vareniki



I hate our state, but still love our country



Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: April 25 2007 at 14:13
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Ukraine

                        - negative -

Thiefs and cheaters rule the country

Bureaucracy is a national policy

You must be drunk to be Ukrainian. I'm not use alcohol, so I'm kinda stranger

Everybody are possessed with media and gave up their own ways of thinking

The youth is doomed on dying from cheap drugs and sex dicesases



I hate our state, but still love our country



It's pretty much the same here, maybe a bit less extreme...

Positive things? There are still plenty of really great people here, young and old


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 09:19
Yes, when everybody's not drunk, they seem to be quite good


Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 12:30
England:  TeaThumbs%20Up, fried breakfastsThumbs%20Up, discussing the weatherConfused, footballThumbs%20Down and of course: SHEDSClap

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Posted By: Hyperborea
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 17:59
Bad health
Alcoholism
Drugs
Obesity
Crap teeth
A hatred of our neighbour, but a love and freindliness tof all other nations
The most friendly nation on health, when we're not in hospital, drunk, stoned, at the dentist or eating.
Always laughing at ourselves
And finally probably the best engineers in the world (maybe not today, but we were once)
 
Where am i?


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Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 11:07
Originally posted by Hyperborea Hyperborea wrote:

Bad health
Alcoholism
Drugs
Obesity
Crap teeth
A hatred of our neighbour, but a love and freindliness tof all other nations
The most friendly nation on health, when we're not in hospital, drunk, stoned, at the dentist or eating.
Always laughing at ourselves
And finally probably the best engineers in the world (maybe not today, but we were once)
 
Where am i?
 
 
Sweden ?  Disapprove
 
 
 
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 11:09
Originally posted by Hyperborea Hyperborea wrote:

Bad health
Alcoholism
Drugs
Obesity
Crap teeth
A hatred of our neighbour, but a love and freindliness tof all other nations
The most friendly nation on health, when we're not in hospital, drunk, stoned, at the dentist or eating.
Always laughing at ourselves
And finally probably the best engineers in the world (maybe not today, but we were once)
 
Where am i?


England!


Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 11:19
Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Originally posted by Hyperborea Hyperborea wrote:

Bad health
Alcoholism
Drugs
Obesity
Crap teeth
A hatred of our neighbour, but a love and freindliness tof all other nations
The most friendly nation on health, when we're not in hospital, drunk, stoned, at the dentist or eating.
Always laughing at ourselves
And finally probably the best engineers in the world (maybe not today, but we were once)
 
Where am i?


England!
 
 
...mmm, chewing through your  Wimpy dreams  ?  Do you eat without a sound ?
 
 
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 22:55
Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

speaking of quebec:
 
our women abuse too much of their rights.
 
the average Joe lives a deep identity crisis: he wonders what is his role in the society as a father
 
people with permanent bad breath are forever singles
 
more than anywhere, the woman chooses her partner
 
our province  is feminized.
 
every home interior is designed by women (violet walls, flowers as ornaments, tons of mirrors, brass/china  handles)
 
many women try with other women just for having fun
 
the goal of young women here is to have fun, nothng else.
 
i think the worst nightmare here for a young woman is to spend the  night alone.
 
sounds like i had a bad day? YEP
 
HOPE this helps
 
 
 
 
 
 

I live in this same country,
where some will whine that others are given preferential treatment due to an attribute than can identify them as a "minority"
Where most will agree that these same whiners simply are looking for excuses to explain why some have more success than they do.
I live in a country where we acknowledge our shortcomings re : prejudices,
yet accept that some will disagree with identifying such shortcomings.
I live in a country where we believe we are superior to our southern neighbour,
yet, envy much of what that country has achieved & stands for.
I live in a country whose cultural history is a mix of two ancient Europeen powers,
with a recognition of  our aboriginal community that does not always live up to our ideals.
I live in a country that welcomes immigrants, and always has. We encounter problems, we fret over whether our standards are high enough, yet the majority seem to prefer to weigh in on the softer side. We see what newcomers bring to us, what they can add to the mix to keep our country the best place to live in this world.
I live in a country that most inhabitants truly believe is the best country in the world, yet do not indulge in a mindless jingoistic nationalism that precludes an appreciation that others love their countries just as much as we may love ours.
I live in a country that has seen major changes, sometimes grudginly accepted, but usually with time, old battles are left to the past.
I live in a country that accepts that regions will have their own perceptions, problems, & proposed solutions to these without having to resort to civil war or violence. Heated interminable debate is preferred to brute prower & authorarianism.
And finally I believe the preceding post that is quoted ill represents my country & its' people.
But I believe that in my country we support his right to state his opinion, without the possibility or threat of state, media or mob censorship. For to censor reprehensible ideas is to endow them the status of martyr, when exposure to the public eye allows them to be found to be what they are - wrong.


Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 23:08
Wow.




Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 07:25
Alcoholism! Lots of it!
Thiefs and cheats all around.
corruption
stupidity
 
and thats only the beginning...Ouch


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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 14:14
^that's pretty depressing...actually, a lot of countries have those problems --- something to do with human nature I suppose Cry

I bet if everyone started listening to Prog the crime rates would drop! As for drinking, I can't say prog would be a deterrant there LOL


Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 18:11
I think I won't be overly pessimistic.  When I think of American culture, I think of jazz, the greatest cultural achievement of all time for me.


Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 20:59
Hmm...when I think of Australian culture, I think of alcoholism, racism, bravado, tall poppy syndrome, homophobia...lots of great stuff!

Oh, and American ass-kissing.

(It's actually a love-hate relationship) Confused



Posted By: DarioIndjic
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 00:39
Very very humoristic and cynical.
Friendly and naive.
Gently and barbarian.
Subjective and emotional,emotions are much more used than reason.
Easily gets upset .
Loves to dance and sing.
Always think something else or someone else will solve all the problems.
Serbs don't love themselves and people can easily be 'bought' with money.
Never been united ,difficult to agree on one same point.
Self-destructive and melancholic(thats the same for all Slavic peoples i think).
The majority always believe more to the idiots than to wise people.
A lot of oposed extremes in a way of thinking and living,moderation is a rare thing.
Honest.
 


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 21:07
Originally posted by Sasquamo Sasquamo wrote:

I think I won't be overly pessimistic.  When I think of American culture, I think of jazz, the greatest cultural achievement of all time for me.

When I think of American culture, I understand why the old world feels the need to denigrate it as catering to the lowest common denominator. Their own high culture is as full of self indulgent crap & art truly worthy of that name as anything America has put out.
DIsney & Jazz.


Posted By: Hyperborea
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 19:00
As an addendum. My country has given new meaning to turkeys voting for christmas. The nationalists have won, one more seat than labour, look out out for higher taxes, and a form of childishness that will be unsurpassed anywhere in the whole world.
 
ps what other democratic country can have over 150,000 spoilt ballot papers?


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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 19:08
Associates freedom with violence
Advertises conformity constantly
Promotes ignorance
 
 


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Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 21:46
I would say it would have to be: "I R bettur thun U is"

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 14:16
Originally posted by Atomic_Rooster Atomic_Rooster wrote:

I would say it would have to be: "I R bettur thun U is"
 
and feeling defensive when proved otherwise?TongueWink


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 21:04
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Atomic_Rooster Atomic_Rooster wrote:

I would say it would have to be: "I R bettur thun U is"
 
and feeling defensive when proved otherwise?TongueWink

U R what U iz.


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