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Topic: Battles
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Subject: Battles
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 21:44
I am quite saddened by the lack of Battles on this site.
 
For those who do not know, the group is comprised of John Stainer (former drummer from Helmet,) Ian Willaims (former guitarist for Don Caballero,) Tyondai Braxton (son or nephew of avant-Jazz artist Anthony Braxton, not sure on which since I've heard conflcting reports,) and the former guitarist for Lynx, Dave Konopka.
 
The music is more or less rhythmic layering, where a rhtythm is introduced and more and more are added on top to create a fairly dense listening experience.  However, it all grooves, is very danceable (not that that's important, but if you want to go for it!) and all around a good, fun listen.
 
They've released three ep's and are releasing an album later this month.
 
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=39551579 - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=39551579
 
go there for a few of the tunes, see a video and see what you guys think.
 
Thanks and Take Care!



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 22:00
I'm a huge Don Cab fan and have been wanting to hear some Battles, so thanks for the taste, alan, looks like the EP C/B EP ones are good . Their sound is hard to place, maybe PostRock, though the 'ATLAS' track is more club music than prog. Good luck..



Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 22:50

Glad to hear you liked them man.  I've been on a big kick of these guys reccently, and can't get enough.  Waiting for Mirrored (new album) is so hard!

Sound-wise, I'd say they share alot more with the Math Rock crowd.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 23:01

Great band,John Stanier was a big influence on me when I was younger and I when I first heard of Battles I was very excited to see he was in on it.They are pretty hard to pin down style wise.

Experimental Post Math Rock?Tongue


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 23:21
I love Don Caballero, and Ian's guitar playing is awesome so I was pretty excited to see him doing something new, however sad that Don Cab was basically dead.  The new Cab album wasn't very impressive.  Granted Damon Che is a fantastic drummer, but the new guys don't have the feel and same oddness.  They seemed more straight metal players doing math rock. 

Anyways, the first time I heard Battles I wasn't impressed.  Then I heard the new single and I was hooked for life.  I've listened to it every week since.  Then I went out and got Ep B.  I can't wait for the album!


Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 09:46
I'm glad to be getting such a positive response from everyone with these guys.
 
Bro, I'd suggest grabbing EP C as well.  It's just as, if not better than the B Ep.
 
Heck, get all their stuff, it's not a whole lot (unfortunatly.)


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 04:55
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

  The new Cab album wasn't very impressive.  Granted Damon Che is a fantastic drummer, but the new guys don't have the feel and same oddness. 


World Class Listening Problem is a great album, one of their best.





Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 15:54
Well, Mirrored finally came out, and it's every bit as good as I thought it would be.
 
We really need to get these guys onto the site.  Anyone know how to?


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 17:50
Well you've come to the right place. They will be added to the list from here when Mystic Fred picks this up.


Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 20:44
Really? that's awesome!  If there's anything they need help with I am more than willing to help out.


Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 16:56
Can't say I like them much (assumption based on Mirrored only), but they definitly have quality to increase the ranks of Experimental/Post-Rock.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 00:41
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Great band,John Stanier was a big influence on me when I was younger and I when I first heard of Battles I was very excited to see he was in on it.They are pretty hard to pin down style wise.

Experimental Post Math Rock?Tongue

Pretty much, although Math rock as a genre apart could be nice...


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Posted By: queenlerxst
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 01:09
I enjoy them quite a bit, but the music isn't as dynamic as I like it to be.  Some of their song sections go on for a bit longer than "necessary."

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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 01:24
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Great band,John Stanier was a big influence on me when I was younger and I when I first heard of Battles I was very excited to see he was in on it.They are pretty hard to pin down style wise.

Experimental Post Math Rock?Tongue

Pretty much, although Math rock as a genre apart could be nice...

Yes. Yes it would.



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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 01:40
I remember already checking this band for Art Rock (there was a thread containing many bands and suggestions), and didn't like them or found them progressive enough. Atavachron on the other hand likes the band and may want its addition.

Of course, if the Experimental Team decides checking it up for their genre, that's out of Art Rock's league.

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Posted By: Lanor
Date Posted: October 08 2007 at 18:46
Shocked The fact that Battles isn't on this site is ridiculous.

These guys may be math rock, but so are Dillinger Escape Plan, so what the hell are they doing here then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLAN29W-4w - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLAN29W-4w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLAN29W-4w -




Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 08 2007 at 20:37
Battles are much more than a math rock band...

They do deserve to be here in PA, but at the moment it's quite hard to put them under one of the existing genres in PA.



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 08 2007 at 21:43
I have no doubt Battles will eventually be here...  if no new Avant categories emerge, they could still be put in either Avant or PostRock (at times they remind of Tortoise but with a more minimal sound and heavier guitar)




Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 00:30
I think I may of heard their stuff, does it sound a bit like ELP?


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 00:33
Certainly for adding them, Mirrored is a great, progressive album. Excellent use of sound, timbre, and experimentation.
With the limited genres, I'd probably say Experimental/Post Rock would suit them well because most bands similar to them on PA are there.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 03:03
Originally posted by Lanor Lanor wrote:

Shocked The fact that Battles isn't on this site is ridiculous.

These guys may be math rock, but so are Dillinger Escape Plan, so what the hell are they doing here then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLAN29W-4w - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLAN29W-4w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLAN29W-4w -




If you're really keen on having new bands on this site, I would recommend you to use a different tone when suggesting their addition. Personally, I would consider NOT adding a band that was suggested in such a rude way. This is very offensive to those people who work for FREE on behalf of this site.

That said, the Heavy Prog team has taken Battles into due consideration, but (as my teammate Atavachron already said) thought they would be more suited to another subgenre. Rest assured we're not keeping them out of PA on purpose.


Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: October 09 2007 at 06:27
I would also support their addition to the site, though under which category - I don't know. It would be useful to finally determine where math-rock-ish bands should go. As we all know, they're currently all over the place.

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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 21:20
I just sampled some of their album, IMO I can't find a reason not to include them, I think they sound like they'd fit in under Crossover or Eclectic prog, a strong ELP influence on them, but yet different enoguh not to fall under the trap that Flower Kings, Spock's Beard and others have fallen under by not being idiosyncratic enough.


Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 21:24
Give us some time with this addition. There are some things we need to clear up before we keep adding bands like Battles to the archives.



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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 21:57
It was interesting first listen...need more.



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