Phil Collins in the Progarchives!
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Topic: Phil Collins in the Progarchives!
Posted By: Wuschel
Subject: Phil Collins in the Progarchives!
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:27
Hell, we even have PeterGabriel here, and Phil's a former
Genesis member,just like him. So he should also run under
prog-related? Their solo stuff is equally pop to me.....
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Posted By: Wuschel
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:28
sorry for mistake, of course i know ,that Collins is still a genesis member
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:30
No, just no!  
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:35
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I love the Phil Collins albums. But Phil Collins isn't Prog!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:36
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hahahhahahhaha was about to sign off for the night... thanks for the laugh. Have some clappies.... and this thread will be the first one I check in the morning... the responses... should be priceless hahha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:46
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Of course. Prog Related (him, not the music) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:05
| Um, no. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:08
Yes, lets add him with Michael Jackson. 
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:11
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I encourage and decidedly support his inclusion....  ------------- 
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:11
He is my enemy. I can't stand that man- when I hear his songs on the radio- I want to vomit. 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:11
But is Jacko Prog related? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:12
Jacko is kid-related...  -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:15
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iván -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:17
What???
Sorry, among the many languages I don't spoke, that one is one of them.. -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:22
Rolls on floor laughing my ass off........ ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:40
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Well I feel like requesting Michael Bolton later on.
And let's forget about people like Yma Sumac or Kiyomi Otaka and focus on the epitome of anti-prog, as Phil Collins is. ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:46
Yikes T, you need this http://www.netlingo.com/lookup.cfm?term=LMAO - http://www.netlingo.com/lookup.cfm?term=LMAO to survive in the net, the omline Internet dictionary.
 Iván -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:51
I will learn , give me some time...
 By the way, IATTAIWLTBAR!!!
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 11:49
| Only if one day appear a compilation of more prog songs of phil collins solo. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:27
Chioose your words Markos
More implies there are already some and Phil doesn't have a single prog NOTE in his solo career.
And please, foir the tarter, comparing PG with PC is a blasphemy.
PG1, PG2 and PG3 are Prog
His last works are at least Prog Related, so he deserves to be in Prog Related in the worst scenario.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:33
The Peter Gabriel solo albums are much more related to prog than the Phil Collins albums ... in fact Collins has the reputation of being responsible for the downfall of prog by turning Genesis into a pop group. Surely Gabriel wrote some pop hits too ... but they were much more artistic ... I'd call them "Art Pop". And I don't think that there'll be any rap versions of Gabriel's hits ...  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:35
How could you possibly make a rap version of "Sledgehammer" for starters ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:36
| We might as well, we have Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks, and Steve Hackett on here already. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:41
You can turn *any* song into Rap by simply removing 90% of the musical content, adding a simple beat and finishing it off with some "uh, yeah, come on" samples. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:42
Sorry to disagree but I recently heard an atrocious pop version of "Red Rain" from SO, by one of those prom-rock bands... so Gabriel has sold his music, too.  -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:53
Mike wrote very few albums, but Smallcreeps Day is a Prog conceptual album, I don0't like it but it's Prog, Mike & The Mechanics haven't been added, maybe his inclusion is a bit forced
Tony: A Curious Feeling is Prog, so in Prog Related he's OK.
Steve Hackett: What???? Steve Hackett is a 100% Prog artist, he's the only ex-Genesis member that remains faithful to Prog:
Are 100% Prog albums, there's no doubt about this, the rest of his albums have moments of Prog but incredible quality, you can't put his name in the same phrase as Phil Collins, unless you're talking abut Genesis. Thanks God you didn't
Iván
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 14:18
| Strictly speaking, PC could qualify under the prog related banner. It would however be a highly controversial move for the site, and not one we're inclined to take at this time. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 14:20
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*damn* I was going to sneak Duran Duran in while everyone was dropping dead over that hahahhaha
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 14:26
I'm all for the controversy!!
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 14:37
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Me too, but there are limits!
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 14:46
That's the best response in the thread so far.... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 17:03
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Never!!!!!! we'll fight him on the beaches, we'll fight him on the seas, we will never let him in the archives and never give in!!!!
-Winston Churchill (slightly modified) ------------- |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 17:11
You're wrong... Sir Winston would actually agree with his inclussion... it's like a deep bond and oath of allegiance to the Bald Brotherhood... -------------
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 17:26
| Though I still do think Phil had some say in the music of Genesis during he's influence as the drummer and later drummer/singer. So let's not forget he did compose prog in a prog band. I agree he should be added, even though I really don't like most of he's solo ballads. Whereas I do like his movie soundtracks, like for Disney's Tarzan. |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 17:50
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Keep in mind it would had been offending to him to include him in the site. Or as he said "it would drag". Please let's not do the same mistake as with GTR and focus on the material rather than the creators.
BTW I do enjoy Tarzan too. ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 01:59
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...slightly off-topic remark: If I'm not mistaken, Michael Jackson was mentioned on the first page of the current thread. For some odd reasons, he is always associated in my mind with other artist, namely, George Michael. George Michael is already present in PA:
George Michael and Queen With Lisa Stansfield: Five Live.
Pay attention to the fact that he is credited first, before Queen. It's not "Queen and George Michael..."...
...not to mention the cover of the album, where you know who appears...
Hence, bureaucratically speaking, his full discography should be added to the Archives...
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 02:06
I don't believe so:
We are saved. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 02:21
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Just a word of warning, and my personal 2 eurocents' worth on the matter: let's be careful, because including Phil (whose solo output doesn't have an ounce of prog in it) would lead down a very, very slippery slope - which could mean including every artist who was a member of a prog band, even if for a single album. Therefore, we would probably have to include The Police, two of whose members were involved with prog bands - as well as a myriad of other artists, such as quite a few Italians, or the dreaded Demis Roussos, former vocalist with Aphrodite's Child. For those of you who've been so lucky as to have never heard anything from his solo output, let's just say that he makes Phil Collins sound like a RIO artist.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 04:44
and don't forget Spandau Ballet!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 05:23
hahhahah... yeah... thanks... I have Duran Duran's bio and discography ready.... and just biding my time for when chaos hits PA's... and I can slip them in... first Duran Duran, then BOC, the Talking Heads, Beck, and every other hair-brained suggestion I've had shot down in the last year ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: william314159
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 19:13
| absolutely not |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 07 2007 at 19:50
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I actually think Madonna's music has progressed with time, hence the need for her inclusion. -------------
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 08 2007 at 00:31
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Yeah, also Britney Spears, she's oh so progressive now, just look at the haircut ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 16:15
AHA!!!!!! You said it yourself: bald haircut=progressive...
Isn't Phil Collins bald????
PHIL DESERVES HIS SPOT HERE.... -------------
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 17:17
I guess I did ; then again is more progressive to see bald women than bald men------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 17:31
ok, so I propose that, as soon as Phil grows his hair long enough to look like Britney's old hair, he has to be considered in the same level of proggyness and thus included in the Archives -------------
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 17:33
It would take a miracle to grow his hair back... witchcraft perhaps? ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Picklebury
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 17:33
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Who's Phil Collins? ------------- The Official Unofficial Krautrock Team: Earning Zappa88's ire since he posted that blasphemous review. |