PT or DT
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Topic: PT or DT
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Subject: PT or DT
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:21
Five years ago, I would have said Dream Theater. Now, its definitely Porcupine Tree. In fact, I listen to more PT than DT these days. Something about the music just kept growing on me. DT has a better initial punch, but now proves to lack staying power. Go figure. ------------- 
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:25
| For me, it's PT by a mile. But DT is still awesome. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:26
How about ET  Okay I voted PT |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:29
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Porcupine Tree are better, write better songs, have better production values, don't have an annoying singer, don't play over the top material for the sake of it, know the description of 'feel', are original, etc...
Edit : most of all, they are INSPIRED !!!
------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Proglodita
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:29
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DT's time is gone for me. they are a great band with great musicians, but right now, PT has something special, something like DT had a couple of years ago.
Maybe is because just the past year a got into PT... ------------- P |
Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:35
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PT by the most insanely long mile ever measured. ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong 
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Posted By: dAJaro
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:37
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both bands have their share of awesome albums. so i will let the next studio output of these great bands decide. i hope dt will stand a chance against the next PT-powerhouse ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/dAJaro/?chartstyle=basic10"> 
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:38
I'd even say by an INFINITE margin...  ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
lightbulb_son wrote:Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:40
Holy crap...did DT even have a chance? I wonder where all the DT fan boys went.   -------------
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:40
| Come on, there's no need to bash DT.... |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:41
They abandoned PA due to the incessant bashing their favorite band gets... ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:42
No bashing of the band. They are talented and I do like their material. But I seem to remember a while back DT was all the rage. -------------
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Posted By: Beastie!
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:44
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I don't believe this. I'm the first person to vote for DT! PT is great, sure, but DT is just...better. They just are. I can't explain it. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:45
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REALLY tough poll. I've been in a huge PT mood lately with the purchases of Lightbulb Sun and The Sky Moves Sideways. I really enjoy Dream Theater, though. I'm going to have to think about this one.
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:47
DT master their instruments probably more than most bands today, but they are far from mastering songwriting, feel and originality... which is why PT is better than DT... (and I have every album by both bands, by the way ) ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 15:50
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can I vote for RT? i'm thinking rainbow theatre but I'm sure there's another band using the acronym. sorry I don't like either of these bands and am just being a smart ass
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:07
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PORCUPINE TREE! ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:08
| I Love Them Both. But In My Opinon Steven Wilson is the Modern Day " Dave Gilmour". I just get pissed off because PT never get any PUB.......I am sick of it. ........ |
Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:11
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Not the most obvious bands in the world to compare to one another......... They're too different to compare IMO, so I'll let this poll go on without my vote  ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:25
A very very though choice... I like both bands very much.... so it's very hard to choose for me I think I'll vote for Dream Theater
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Posted By: aspinosa
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:31
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None of them, Prog metal is not my cup of tea. |
Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:47
Then give PT a spin. Deadwing might have made you think they are prog-metal, so check out their back catalogue, you won't regret it. ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:48
I can't say I'll miss them... although they were a great target whenever I needed a scapegoat for all that is wrong with prog. ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:50
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Dream Theater ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 16:59
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I like DT more.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 17:09
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PT music is more interesting, and SW is a much better singer. I do have to admit, that DT's drummer is amazing. |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 17:15
| Porcupine Tree |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 17:19
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Absolutely no contest. One of the easiest polls I have ever seen.
Porcupine Tree are one of the best bands around these days.
DT.....aren't
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Posted By: Marcos
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 17:22
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DT and PT are totally different. If I have to vote: Dream Theater... not dude ------------- www.postmortemweb.com.ar |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 17:40
| I loathe DT |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 18:36
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What about OT! (Ozric Tentacles)
I have to vote for Porcupine Tree. Yet again I'll say it.. Steven Wilson please,please,please consider bringing PT to Australia.
ps I do like DT. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 18:40
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Even though PT is a great band, even though I like it a lot (own all studio albums +metanoia +voyage34), I really don't see it as a history-changing band in the history of prog.... you can say whatever you like, you can hate them as much as you want, but for prog-metal at least (and, sorry, for all prog) there is a before Images and Words and after Images and Words... Anyway, as this is a poll of favoritism, of course I'll go with The Dream. I hate this polls that seem to imply the idea that both bands are exclusive or something, at least many posts give that idea.... ------------- 
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 20:38
The earlier Porcupine Tree isn't really Prog Metal. I wouldn't really define PT as Prog Metal but I believe they play a major role in the future of Prog. -------------
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: March 06 2007 at 20:41
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I feel as if I've forsaken Dream Theater but I've gotta give it to Porcupine Tree. Porcupinee Tree make better music but Dream Theater were better live. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 01:46
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A couple of observations: 1) Wow, PT is kicking @$$ in this poll! I'm glad, because they're my choice too. 2) To the people who said that you can't really compare these two bands, I don't understand your point of view at all: They have many similarities, so many it's almost a little eerie. They were both very important bands in the early times of the modern prog resurgence, and started releasing material in the same exact year (1989). Both of them produce a good deal of music that fits under the "prog-metal" label, yet both have strong "non-metal prog" qualities as well. Both have released about 8 studio albums and various other albums, live and otherwise, as well as live DVD's. Both have created a few "epic" songs, several "mini-epics" (i.e. 10-15 min), as well as more standard-length songs. Both are releasing arguably the two most highly-anticipated prog albums in 2007. Need I go on? ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 01:48
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PT
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:06
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Porcupine Tree ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:23
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Dream Theater is a good band, who made some great recordings. Porcupine Tree however is already in my all-time top5 prog bands. ------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:34
 Nice response. -------------
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:36
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Porcupine Tree, no doubts here. ------------- sig |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:42
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Dream Theater by a long, long way. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:42
Oh, Portnoy has some great chops, but I have come to realize he overplays. A measure of greatness in a musician could be the tasteful placement of rests. -------------
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:55
| Porcupine Tree. While I like DT, Porcupine Tree are definitely the better songwriters in my eyes. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:56
A great musician is not only one who plays very well, but also one who knows when NOT to play... This is why PT are better than DT. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 11:54
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Now listening to BLACKFIELD's "Hello" on repeat play.For a 14th or 15th time.Guess whom did I choose
After all,I still enjoy DT.They are really great sometimes |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 11:59
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None.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:02
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DT. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:03
And you posted why? -------------
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:05
Do you have a problem? ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:08
No, looking for a reason why someone would offer something that had nothing to offer. -------------
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:13
Are you some sort of thread keeper? Go away. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:14
| I like both, but there's no question who I and most people like more. |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:15
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:16
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^^ Andu, why the hostile attitude ? He was merely asking a question.
If you have a bad day, take it some place else, StyLaZyn did nothing to get your heat. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:29
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Negative feedback is just that, feedback. I think people shouldn't be questioned about their tastes and also I think that giving negative feedback shouldn't be prohibited or judged. Personal interpretation of others' supposed intentions mustn't become base of action. BTW, I was just reacting. No harm meant, but please be more gentle around, people. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:43
| For over-all consistency and tastefullness, my vote goes to Porcupine Tree. I happen to like Images and Words by Dream Theater though. A shame they never made anything as good. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 12:45
------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 13:09
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A vote for DT, for rather nostalgic reasons. I love IAW and Awake.
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Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 13:15
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I like both bands, but Porcupine Tree, much more really! ------------- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/sydbarrettg.jpg/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 13:18
I agree here. Everyone should be perfectly OK by stating that he dislikes the subject discussed in a thread or that he prefers none. Everyone has got the options to agree, to disagree, to ignore or to protest. Sometime ago I was discussing similar situation with MikeEnRegalia, who was of the opinion that the best reaction to the threads you dislike is ignoring them, but I kinda disagree, because sometimes negative comments can be very helpful for other people participating to understand the point.
and by the way, I don't really like any of the two bands mentionned here
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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 14:25
 Need I say more? ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 14:27
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PT ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 14:29
actually ...you do hahahhaha
there we go... oh... and same for me...  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 16:25
| Dream Theater is a lot more musically interesting. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 16:28
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^^
If you call instrument masturbation interesting, then DT is interesting ! ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: treewoman
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 16:56
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PT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a huge fan since I saw there show in september.
Can't get into DT, no my cup of beer ------------- tattoo permanent proof of temporary madness |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 20:29
| There's nothing wrong with playing to your ability level, as long as it sounds great, which it does. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people here think Charlie Parker and John Coltrane solos are "instrument masturbation." |
Posted By: Rodolfo
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 21:32
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I think DT and PT are not in the same sport league , you know. I mean, this is like comparing the Toronto Raptors and Bluejays. Both play their leagues and they aer great.
Steven Wilson is a genius without a doubt but DT is an al time great band.
Rodolfo
PD: Viva Venezuela libre
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 21:59
hahahhahahhahahahha *spills hot tea in lap* oh sh*t.... did you really just compare Dream Theater to Charlie Parker and John Coltrane? ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 22:09
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You don't make any sense at all. Read again, I wasn't comparing their music. |
Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 23:16
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Every band has their day. Seems like DT's has passed. ------------- It's Calling Me Back To My Home. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 07 2007 at 23:37
read again... and would still spill my tea in my lap. What then were you intending to compare if not the music. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 07:59
| Don't worry, I know what I'm talking about. I know more about jazz than most here. What you're trying to get at is the Parker/Coltrane=Great, and Dream Theater=Bad. But if I asked you how much you listened to either you would probably say very little to both. The conclusion is that Parker and Coltrane are protected by their reputation (which is very well deserved), while Dream Theater's reputation on this site leaves them vulnerable. Nobody wants to dislike the masters/the people they're expected to like. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 08:09
I don't see Dt like that at all! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 08:15
hahahhah.. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you. IF you want to think you know more.. go ahead and think so .
Their reputation is well earned..through what has been many
years and will be for the future of music .. or something like that
hahaha. Dream Theater hasn't earned that.. won't earn it...
and shouldn't earn it. Great players does not always equal great
music.. and Dream Theater for some.. even many.. is a
perfect example of that. Love them if you must.... but those who
don't will offer our two cents why we don't. Be it musically,
importance, or reputation.. to mention Dream Theater in the same
context with those giants of music is laughable. Disagree if you
will.....------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 08:54
Over the years, if I understand correctly, PT has become less the Steven Wilson show, and more a entire band effort. After watching the Arriving Somewhere DVD, I saw a real band effort. After watching Score, I saw a bunch of guys individually showing off. I am beginning to see why so many dislike DT.
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Posted By: Yito
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 10:08
PT is a great and truly prog band, but DT is Still the king of today's Prog ------------- Psalm 96 1 Sing to the LORD a new song; sing to the LORD, all the earth. |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 16:06
| I doubt you fully appreciate those "giants" of music. |
Posted By: Xeroth
Date Posted: March 08 2007 at 23:19
I'm here and I love DT! I'm giving this album a good chance! Both bands I'm anticipating will make huge breaks! I've fallen in love with PT lately but DT will always be the roots of my Prog loving self with Rush! As good as PT is and the good anticipation they have moving for this album I'm excited just to know that DT will be coming with another album! They've never really let me down either. ------------- I once was cool, but now I'm cold. Can you please turn up the heat. |
Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: March 09 2007 at 06:29
| Porcupine Tree, by a bajillion. |
Posted By: Mlaen
Date Posted: March 09 2007 at 10:27
| DT here. |
Posted By: Prayermad
Date Posted: March 09 2007 at 10:38
| That's actually really hard. While Porcupine Tree seems to focus on moody, emotional and eased-out pieces of space rock, Dream Theater tries to metalize progressive music as much as possible. Dream Theater are greater musicians, they're solos are amazing, they're songs (especially Metropolis, one of my fav songs ever) are awe-inspiring. But i somehow like Porcupine Tree better. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 09 2007 at 10:51
| Porcupine Tree for me, because the music touches me a bit more than DT's. I like moody music. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 09 2007 at 10:54
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Love to see the results here, the other way around would've killed me. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: March 09 2007 at 12:36
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No doubt...
PORCUPINE TREE ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: Kill Fede
Date Posted: March 30 2007 at 05:44
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Dream,Dream...but Porcupine are still great!
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: March 30 2007 at 05:52
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can't see how could these two be compared but i'll go with DT.. ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: April 02 2007 at 06:45
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Porcupine Tree is just light pop. (sometimes i like it little bit) That explains the popularity in these "progressive" circles. Melancholic, artistic, nyances. f**k PT. Though I don't like all DT, but it's still better. ------------- 
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Posted By: randyhiatt
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 18:28
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PT for sure. DT is a bunch of hotshots shooting waaay too often. It's about the writing and lyrics tied with great playing I love. Too old for show offs I guess. ------------- Randy |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 18:55
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None of them are great in my opinion. I vote for Dream Theater is
better because they try to do some different things, but they hardly
can do something that is much different from their previous works. At
least they work without abbandoning prog. Porcupine Tree is doing something different from their earlier work, but it is nothing different from some mainstream bands and they are not prog anymore since many years. They are more like an indie alternative metal band that insists in using the tag progressive rock just to appear to be serious concerned about the quality of their music, like many indie bands do. |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 19:05
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing....SW has spent years avoiding the tag "Prog Rock" so you are completely wrong there.
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 19:07
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Have heard only two Porcupine Tree songs in my life... I'm planning to get one of their albums these days. So I won't vote. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: melvins
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 19:55
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It is my professional opinion, that dream theater is really lame. (when compared to PTree) ------------- Like stee moanin' ludlow |
Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 20:51
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PT. Steve is amazing at what he does, all of the musicians in the band do a great job of playing perfectly and with emotion, and their music is also amazing. Sure, maybe PT can't do the most insane solos (except for Gavin), but their music is emotional and well written. I used to love DT but now I just don't like their stuff that much... |
Posted By: cowbell1
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 21:32
| I personally have PT. |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 10:28
Have you ever read any recent SW interview? He mention his music is the real progressive while Flower Kings, for example, is not in one interview. So before you assuming something you don't know, don't assume anything because maybe it is you that is short of knowledge and as an admin you should be the last to make such an offending statement. Can you prove what you say? I can, just search for a topic about SW and Roine Stolt controversy. |
Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:00
| Choosing the lesser of two evils is never much fun. Both are awful. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 12:58
Why even participate in such a poll if you don't like both bands ?
And why are your posts always negative ? ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 13:09
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I voted it for Porcupine Tree for several Reasons: PT was love at the first site.
DT took a very long time
PT sounded a lot like the band I love Pink Floyd specially in the early days.
DT sound too much like the bands once I hate Metallica well I can tolerated them I little these days.
Steve Wilson is amazing song writer and vocalist.
Mike and John are also but sometimes their lyrics are so stupid and boring.
Musically speaking DT win the poll with me. They guys are much better musicians that PT however Pt doesn't have to make so much noise to sound good.
DT members are fans of Porcupine Tree. I am not sure if that the same case with PT.
BUT, Both are 2 of my fav's prog band of today.!!! ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 14:12
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The tree! ------------- 
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