ridiculous prog.
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Topic: ridiculous prog.
Posted By: acheron
Subject: ridiculous prog.
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 17:39
| So in my prog. music experience Ayreon is the artist that takes concept albums to the most ridiculous, outrageous levels. Are there other bands who do anything similar to him? |
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Posted By: theBox
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 18:21
Dream theater's "Scenes from a memory". While the music was kinda nice, the lyrics/concept were...
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Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 21:30
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A lot of prog is ridiculous, that's why we're all so damn interested.
Check out Arcturus.
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Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 21:49
| You pretty much described Rick Wakeman On Ice. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:25
 Well....
Sadly,
 , you're kind of right.... The best album ever has one of the most ridiculous, cheesy stories ever.... But it's one case I really don't care.  I think you've never heard anything written by Luca Turilli, so it seems. After having some Luca Turilli or Rhapsody, you're ready to go fight demons, dragons and evil lords armed with just a sword and a shield... and you have trilogies, tetralogies that easily could be made into the LordOfThe Rings part II in terms of size!
I, for one, like Ayreon's stories very much
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theBox wrote:Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:36
That's correct. For 'bad' ridiculous I would say Cynic's 'Focus' comes to mind or a little outfit called Copernicus. For 'good' ridiculous, bands like Von Zamla and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. |
Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:40
Yeah, Rhapsody is completely ridiculous. The music is great (at least for me). but those stories, especially when they make a saga that go through 4 albums... ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:52
I think that's great. I had a few Turilli videos a while back and always meant to look into more. I like dragons and sorcerous tales. AND i'm not embaressed about it. Anyway, the acme of ridiculous prog was perpetrated upon us by one Jon Anderson on the Yes album Tormato. It's called 'Circus of heaven' and it is ghastly silly. ------------- This space intentionally left blank |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:53
For the most part, Ayreon can be over the top and cheesy, but I think Arjen hit a home run with the story for THE....just an opinion  ------------- 
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:57
Rhapsody is actually one of my favourite bands, but about the videos, i think their videos were ridiculous. i haven't seen or heard Turilli solo project though ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: Age_Of_Answers
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:58
I have to second Ayreon as well; I've only heard "The Human Equation", but that was plenty enough for me. 
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 23:17
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i love rhapsody ,they are one of my favourite's matal artist.yes,i know they sometimes put too much on their dragons,mighty wariors,swordmasters.but it is very atmospheric ,beautiful,saga from medieval times.i find ridiculous henri cow.i cannot understand that kind of prog,
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 23:18
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Your mom is ridiculous. ------------- 
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 00:11
Mr. Bungle Yet so good ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 01:17
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Tell me your definition of ridicolous please, then i could understand what you mean ... So TMV are completely a ridicolous band ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 03:15
| first thing to come to mind would beGenesis/Phil Collins stuuf, lyrically that is. Songs like A Trick of the Tail or All in a Mouses Night or Robbery, Assault and Battery, and especially that one with the cowboy dude, Big Jim, what's the name of that again, can't bother to go look for it on the cd. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 04:17
Excellent point. What WERE they thinking of? I love every single tune on TRICK OF THE TAIL, but there's only so much you can do with simple fairy tales. After PG left, Genesis stopped sounding OMINOUS, and it's our loss. |
Posted By: samhob
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 05:46
| If there was a "ridiculous prog" genre, Primus would be the first in there :P |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 05:51
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most of the bob drake avant projects across the globe are nothing more than circuses. SGM too. whereas naming Henry Cow as ridiculous... IS ridiculous. ;) I hope whoever mentioned them gives them another try. ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 05:52
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Gong and Mother Gong are sometimes pretty ridiculous, but on purpose. Hawkwind could be pretty ridiculous on purpose too, especially with Robert Calvert on board. His solo albums are pretty ridiculous too. Ridiculous on a negative scale: Eloy. Their pomposity is totally serious, but the result is totally ridiculous. And the humour of Amon Düül 2 is sometimes very ridiculous too. On their first album "Phallus Dei" their humour borders on tastelessness even (in "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren" and "Henriette Krötenschwanz"). -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 06:29
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yes Eloy's silent screams and mighty echoes is just too stupid ------------- How wonderful to be so profound |
Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 06:34
It's one of the best album from Eloy with Ocean and an excellent space rock record
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 07:29
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Uriah Heep - The Magician's Birthday. The track itself.
It must have been the influence on Spinal Tap's druid song. ------------- 
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 07:31
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Most ridiculous is Ritchie Blackmore with his endless Night's carols exersises.
As to more serious music - I find huge qtty of releases by Tangerine Dream, Rick Wakeman and John Zorn to be quite ridiculous - without knowing all of them it can be difficult to judge, but I doubt somehow that quality of these releases stands up to the quantity. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 08:16
Rick Wakeman really fits the bill, although I'm not sure 'ridiculous' is the right word (although I see what you mean- certainly the 'on ice' stageshow was ridiculous!!)- maybe 'preposterous' or the dreaded 'pompous' suits better. Try out his 'Journey To The Centre Of The Earth' or 'The Myths And Legends Of King Arthur', which I have a lot of time for despite their obvious grandeur. Also, Rick's more recent follow up to 'Journey...'- 'Return To The Centre Of The Earth'- should appeal, maybe even more so if you are weaned on Ayreon due to all the famous guest vocalists on 'Return'.
In the same vein, I feel 'War Of The Worlds' qualifies. And as much as I love them, I would definitely agree Uriah Heep's 'The Magician's Birthday' is the most preposterous track the band have recorded. It's never been a fave of mine because it's more 'excessive' than 'progressive'- check out the elongated guitar solo from Mick Box, pure Nigel Tufnel- 'my solos are my trademark'...'Pilgrim' from 'Sweet Freedom' almost teeters on the brink of it too, with its extremely epic chorus and heavy, bombastic climax.
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Posted By: oldebag
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 08:27
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Please try the electric castle or the flight of the migrator etc. The Ayreon you are basing your decision from ...is his worst ,in my humble opinion, of course
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 08:51
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I think the topic starter used the wrong word ... I think he meant "hilarious", which doesn't have the negative implications of the word "ridiculous".
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 10:44
While I like DT quite a bit, SFAM was a prime example of musicians taking themselves too seriously. I don't think DT has a goofy song, do they? Every Prog band owes it to themselves to be silly once in a while. ------------- 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 11:14
Those TRICK OF A TAIL lyrics are truly 'ridiculous', though! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 11:35
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of course whether something is hilarious or ridiculous often lies in the eye of the beholder ...
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 11:51
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Borderline with prog, although more in the melodic power metal vein, Hugo Flores' 'Project creation' sounds a bit like Ayreon. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 11:54
I agree with that one. "Happy birthday... to you.... Mr. Magician! Happy birthday... to you...." -------------  
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 11:57
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 13:48
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some Triumvirat is pretty ridiculous. They should have just been an instrumental band and did away with the corny ancient Rome themes. ------------- |
Posted By: giantenemycrab
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:28
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Ayreon can be a little cheesy.. THE wasn't, it was excellent. But Into the Electric Castle has it's cheesy moments, like Across the Rainbow Bridge. Don't get me wrong, I think it's an excellent song. But I just can't help but laugh everytime I hear "ACROSS THE RAINBOW BRIDGE!" |
Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:39
Put on In The Name of God from Train of Thought, and fast forward to 5.51 What's that sound? It's EAT MY ASS AND BALLS EAT MY ASS AND BALLS played in morse code! ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: EliasMisael
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 17:19
Well people you think That THE and SFAM are ridiculous or cheesy concepts. But the way how a story is said sometimes can destroy it or make it special. IMHO the story of Snow (by Spock's Beard) is ridiculous but it is really well said. And the five or six or whatever parts of the Rhapsody/Turilli saga are really RIDICULOUS!!!!  ------------- "...Basic temperamental filters on our eyes Alter our perceptions Lenses polarize..." 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 24 2007 at 19:22
no they'd be in the related to ridiculous prog-related genre... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Jon89
Date Posted: March 03 2007 at 23:06
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Some of Jethro Tull and Frank Zappa and David Bowie's things have gone way way way over the bordrline of being stupid. Some borders on being crazy and weird and ugly and some being scary as well. Gary Numan And David Sylvain the same goes for them and finally last but by no means last Talking Heads as well. ------------- jon 89 |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: March 03 2007 at 23:17
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Nektar's Remember the Future has the most cliche, lame, stereotypical prog-concept album story: A blind boy whose sight is magically restored by a mystical bird from outer space. On musical ridiculousness, I often find myself laughing out loud at Etron Fou Leloublan's live album En Public.... The lineup is a trio of bass, sax, and drums, and they play this fast-paced music where the bassist plays power chords, the saxaphonist squeeks, and the drummer plays weird patterns that barely match up with the rest. Meanwhile, the bassist screams the lyrics in french, and they all stay perfectly serious. They're so serious that I find them absolutely hilarious. -------------   |