Pink Floyd vs Supertramp
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Topic: Pink Floyd vs Supertramp
Posted By: Masque
Subject: Pink Floyd vs Supertramp
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:00
I was listening to Pink Floyd the other day and found myself enjoying at very much. Today I played "Crime of the Century" by Supertramp and I enjoyed that also. I started thinking to myself who do I prefer out of Pink Floyd and Supertramp ?
I started wondering what the prog rock community on this site thought ?
Which will it be Supertramp or Pink Floyd ?
Can' Decide ? don`t worry you are not alone , I also can`t decide, your feedback on why you can't decide would be appreciated .
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:05
Supertramp. For one reason only - Roger Hodgson has an uncanny ability to explore the depths of despair and of the Struggle, but in the end he never loses sight of what is the most critical element (see below). Pink Floyd's music is absolutely brilliant, but they don't have that same vision.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:07
For me PINK FLOYD easily.Although if were talking albums,"Crime of the century" rivals some of FLOYD's best.I'm not sure where i'd put it though,maybe after "DSOTM" and "Wish you were here".Tough choice between "The wall" ,"Animals" and "Crime of the century".
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:13
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Supertramp. For one reason only - Roger Hodgson has an uncanny ability to explore the depths of despair and of the Struggle, but in the end he never loses sight of what is the most critical element (see below). Pink Floyd's music is absolutely brilliant, but they don't have that same vision.
| As I was listening to Supertramp today one of the things I noticed that I loved was the emotion Roger Hodgson displays with his voice , I liken it to early Genesis in a way and I see that as brilliant also I love the lyrics. Pink Floyd on the other hand I believe are great in their own way , Roger Waters maybe lost the plot a little with the daddy's gone business on the wall and the final cut , but the man can pen some fine lyrics and sing them very well.
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:15
Pink Floyd, no contest.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:17
Zappa88 wrote:
Pink Floyd, no contest. | Pink Floyd may win this poll zappa ... but trust me there is a contest
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Posted By: trauma0
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:17
Zappa88 wrote:
Pink Floyd, no contest. |
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Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 22:58
Pink Floyd, this bands cant simply be compared, they are veru different, and pink floyd is much better, I respect supertramp, and I considered it a very good band, but I think is completely absurd to compare them with Pink Floyd, just that
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Posted By: polyrythmic
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 23:04
Tough one, but for me its Supertramp.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 23:07
While I prefer Supertramp to Pink Floyd (not by much, but still), Pink Floyd is one of those groups that can objectively be called top tier. Sales wise, they are among the top 10 of all time. Mind you, it doesn't hurt to have two of the best selling albums of all times with DSOTM & the Wall. Personally, if & when I listen to the Wall, I use my CD player's remote a bit as the "concept" songs (the Worms for example) don't excite me much, but the album does contain many classic tracks. Supertramp, on the other hand had a great run at the end of the 70s, & while their albums sold very well, none can really match the "legendary" status of DSOTM. That said, Supertramp does get a good share of play on my CD, as many of their songs, especially Rick Davies' best are among my favorites.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 23:10
Nash wrote:
Pink Floyd, this bands cant simply be compared, they are veru different, and pink floyd is much better, I respect supertramp, and I considered it a very good band, but I think is completely absurd to compare them with Pink Floyd, just that | Who said anything about comparing I have far too much respect for both these band to compare ... the question is who you prefer & maybe perhaps why
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 23:12
NO CONTEST
PINK FLOYD.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 23:37
Supertramp. because there is no Roger Waters for one thing. Supertramp has much more emotive singing imo. Waters has some emotion but its always the same one. The most important reason I have to vote for Supertramp though is music structure. They do a much better job of having the instruments augment each other. PF does it pretty well some of the time but some of the time they fail. Most of the time PF instruments are doing great things but they are not really helping each other achieve the sound of the song.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 23:46
Supertramp is one of my faourite artists, so my choice is clear.
obviously going by the numbers Supertramp only released 5 good albums, of which only 1 can be called a masterpiece and Pink Floyd can count in with 7 good al;bums of which 3 can be consideed a masterpiece, but according to me Crime Of The Centurie surpases everything Pink ever creaed, and their second besst bunch equals the enjoyment I get from the best Pink albums.
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Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 00:08
I love them both, but PINK FLOYD is synonym of Prog Rock, and SUPERTRAMP... well... I think they are more Pop than Prog... and when Roger Hodgson quit the band... they were never the same.... (I like more his solo albuns than Supertramp works without him).
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 00:12
I think at their best Pink Floyd is better than Supertramp, but Supertramp are the better overall band.
I doubt this will be a very close result though. I feel a big disappointment for me coming.
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 00:37
Pink Floyd began in the psychedelic London underground. Their roots are in making music for "the cause", being part of the esoteric genre they are so famous for. They developed from there on.
Supertramp are a commercial band that began in THE most contrived possible way. Yes, some of their early work is progressive inspired, but also F.M. radio inspired. Supertramp was a band ASSEMBLED for success. A band that eventually reached the aspirations of it's creater. Although, too late.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 00:50
Witchwoodhermit wrote:
Pink Floyd began in the psychedelic London underground. Their roots are in making music for "the cause", being part of the esoteric genre they are so famous for. They developed from there on.
Supertramp are a commercial band that began in THE most contrived possible way. Yes, some of their early work is progressive inspired, but also F.M. radio inspired. Supertramp was a band ASSEMBLED for success. A band that eventually reached the aspirations of it's creator. Although, too late. | Having a song played on FM doesn`t take anything away from the artist, being a huge Kansas fan I constantly seem to have this disagreement with other proggers. Besides Floyd have had their fair share of FM radio friendly tunes.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 00:51
To be honest I've only heard (and own) Crime of The Century... Pink Floyd I know much better, and I also like much more.... No comparison for me.
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Posted By: moonlitbay
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 02:40
Pink Floyd... No competition!!!!
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 02:59
Whilst we can be pretty certain that PF were more of an epic sounding band they are not comparable with one another. It is an unfair poll - sorry no vote.
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Posted By: white_russian
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 03:22
pink floyd, no contest.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 04:06
Chris Stacey wrote:
Whilst we can be pretty certain that PF were more of an epic sounding band they are not comparable with one another. It is an unfair poll - sorry no vote. | That is why Can't decide .. please add your comment below option was added ... I feel the same way
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 05:35
As much as I like Supertramp, this is not even close to being a contest. Floyd.
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Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:15
Unquestionably Floyd!
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Posted By: Stjernestøv
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:31
I have only heard a few Supertramp songs, and they struck me as kind of boring. But perhaps I should check out a whole album by them?
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 06:47
Stjernestøv wrote:
I have only heard a few Supertramp songs, and they struck me as kind of boring. But perhaps I should check out a whole album by them? |
Try "Crime of the Century", "Crisis...?" or "Even in the quietest moments" or, if you lke Live albums, "Paris". They sound quite better than the singles alone.
BTW, for me, Supertramp, if only because they introduced me into Prog.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 07:04
As I hate Supertramp and find nothing redemable about them at all, its Floyd by several light years.
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Posted By: seamus
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 08:15
Witchwoodhermit wrote:
NO CONTEST
PINK FLOYD. |
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 08:55
Pink Floyd
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 09:01
Witchwoodhermit wrote:
Pink Floyd began in
the psychedelic London underground. Their roots are in making music for
"the cause", being part of the esoteric genre they are so famous for.
They developed from there on.
Supertramp are a commercial band that began
in THE most contrived possible way. Yes, some of their early work
is progressive inspired, but also F.M. radio inspired. Supertramp was a
band ASSEMBLED for success. A band that eventually reached the
aspirations of it's creater. Although, too late. |
I don't know what any of that has to do with the quality of music.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 10:00
Chipiron wrote:
Stjernestøv wrote:
I have only heard a few Supertramp songs, and they struck me as kind of boring. But perhaps I should check out a whole album by them? |
Try "Crime of the Century", "Crisis...?" or "Even in the quietest moments" or, if you lke Live albums, "Paris". They sound quite better than the singles alone.
BTW, for me, Supertramp, if only because they introduced me into Prog. |
I agree. You really can't judge by their singles alone.
I went with Supertramp. Never cared for Pink Floyd that much.
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 10:20
Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 11:13
If I was to compare Crime of the Century to Wish You Were Here it would be a toss-up. But then there's Dark Side of the Moon and Animals vs. Even In the Quietest Moments and Crisis? What Crisis?. In a pinch I'd go with Floyd here. Comparing the two's lesser records? Well then I'd have to go with Supertramp, as they are better at their worst than Pink Floyd. So the result is truly.... I can't decide.
Terry
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 11:32
I don't know, I think Pink Floyd or maybe Floyd, or maybe PF or maybe the one with Gilmour in their line-up.
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Posted By: Malve87
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 12:40
Absolutely Pink Floyd, no doubt about it at all
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Posted By: OGTL
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 13:41
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Supertramp. For one reason only - Roger Hodgson has an uncanny ability to explore the depths of despair and of the Struggle, but in the end he never loses sight of what is the most critical element. |
Agreed. I would put "Crime of the Century" above all of Floyd's discography combined, it is a magnificent album and an absolute masterpeice. The climaxes and piano work in that album are amazing.
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 13:46
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Witchwoodhermit wrote:
Pink Floyd began in
the psychedelic London underground. Their roots are in making music for
"the cause", being part of the esoteric genre they are so famous for.
They developed from there on.
Supertramp are a commercial band that began
in THE most contrived possible way. Yes, some of their early work
is progressive inspired, but also F.M. radio inspired. Supertramp was a
band ASSEMBLED for success. A band that eventually reached the
aspirations of it's creater. Although, too late. |
I don't know what any of that has to do with the quality of music.
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Agreed. However, it should be noted that at least two members of Floyd (Waters and Mason) were always very much focused on success. If you read some history of Floyd and comments by those two about the beginnings of the band, this becomes obvious.
But again, so what? This has nothing to do with the quality of the music. Personally, I've never had much interest in Supertramp, so maybe my choice of Floyd is a bit unfair since I've really only heard the Supertramp "hits" and they didn't do anything for me. But I can at least say that they were well written and well performed, just not to my taste.
And, of course, in terms of commercial success, Pink Floyd arguably was far more successful. Though I'd say they were more or less even in terms of frequency of radio play.
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Posted By: seamus
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 15:07
Snow Dog wrote:
As I hate Supertramp and find nothing redemable about them at all, its Floyd by several light years.
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 17:14
infandous wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Witchwoodhermit wrote:
Pink Floyd began in the psychedelic London underground. Their roots are in making music for "the cause", being part of the esoteric genre they are so famous for. They developed from there on.
Supertramp are a commercial band that began in THE most contrived possible way. Yes, some of their early work is progressive inspired, but also F.M. radio inspired. Supertramp was a band ASSEMBLED for success. A band that eventually reached the aspirations of it's creater. Although, too late. |
I don't know what any of that has to do with the quality of music.
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Agreed. However, it should be noted that at least two members of Floyd (Waters and Mason) were always very much focused on success. If you read some history of Floyd and comments by those two about the beginnings of the band, this becomes obvious.
But again, so what? This has nothing to do with the quality of the music. Personally, I've never had much interest in Supertramp, so maybe my choice of Floyd is a bit unfair since I've really only heard the Supertramp "hits" and they didn't do anything for me. But I can at least say that they were well written and well performed, just not to my taste.
And, of course, in terms of commercial success, Pink Floyd arguably was far more successful. Though I'd say they were more or less even in terms of frequency of radio play.
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Yeah, it's not about the quality of their music. I do like some Supertramp, it's just the contrived way they came about. It leaves a feeling of lack of sincerity. IMO.
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Posted By: Prog.Sylvie
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 17:29
I like Supertramp; they have good albums, but around 1978, when all the girls in my street began to listen to Supertramp , while those girls were not really prog.fans like I was, I understood that Supertramp were fun and easy listening, that's all. I remember that they came often in Montreal playing in those years, and I never went to see them playing live, until Roger Hodgson came last year alone with his piano at la Place des Arts in Montreal. It was nice and refreshing to listen to those Supertramp memories playing only with the piano.
Globaly, I prefer PF music. More spectacular, less romantic, more critical of society and the world around, and more complicated music. I saw PF once at the Olympic Stadium, and I saw Roger Water last show at the Bell Center last year.
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 18:51
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I'm confused.
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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:17
I like Supertramp, especially Breakfast In America,
but my vote goes to Pink Floyd!
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Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 20:24
While I do enjoy Supertramp, I could laugh at this poll because I enjoy Pink Floyd so much more.
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 08:15
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Supertramp. For one reason only - Roger Hodgson has an uncanny ability to explore the depths of despair and of the Struggle, but in the end he never loses sight of what is the most critical element (see below). Pink Floyd's music is absolutely brilliant, but they don't have that same vision.
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Sorry, but thats the funniest statement on this site.
Pink Floyd are apsolutely brilliant but Supetramp had more vision. Wow
Supertramp are hardly prog, and I dont see any vision in their music, comparing to Pink Floyd who are one of milestones of prog.
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Posted By: Malve87
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 10:09
pero wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Supertramp. For one reason only - Roger Hodgson has an uncanny ability to explore the depths of despair and of the Struggle, but in the end he never loses sight of what is the most critical element (see below). Pink Floyd's music is absolutely brilliant, but they don't have that same vision.
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Sorry, but thats the funniest statement on this site.
Pink Floyd are apsolutely brilliant but Supetramp had more vision. Wow
Supertramp are hardly prog, and I dont see any vision in their music, comparing to Pink Floyd who are one of milestones of prog. |
I totally agree with that.
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Posted By: Malve87
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 14:26
Posted By: Mlaen
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 14:11
Is this poll a joke?
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 16:16
Supertramp, no contest.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 18:25
Pink Floyd No Competition. Pink Floyd is much more progressive and innovating than supertramp. Supertramp is my new favourite band so don't you think i don't like supertramp or don't know anything of them.
Supertramp is a good band, they're prog but just that.
Floyd is prog and inovating.
Supertramp has 1 masterpiece and 3 prog albums.
Pink Floyd has 3 masterpieces and 5 or 6 very prog albums.
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Posted By: MusicalSalmacis
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 20:11
People, people, stop ending your sentences with "no contest", it looks pretty stupid.
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 20:25
Supertramp for me, easily.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 31 2008 at 20:43
Pink Floyd
Slam Dunk - no contest
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 10:28
not a big fan of floyd but I voted for them because they influenced many groups that are among my favourites. I never thought much of Supertramp and they don't appear to have inflenced many groups either.
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Posted By: Urs Blank
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 10:41
Pink Floyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They afforded me access to the progressive music world, they will always have a special place in my heart.
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 14:50
Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 11:37
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 12:33
I like Supertramp. But for me it's impossible not to answer Pink Floyd. Their music comes from another place.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 12:55
I do love the tramp but I have to go with the Floyd. Crime is an Epic album it nowhere reaches what Dark side has.
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Posted By: Samir
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 14:02
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 14:20
Nash wrote:
Pink Floyd, this bands cant simply be compared, they are veru different, and pink floyd is much better, I respect supertramp, and I considered it a very good band, but I think is completely absurd to compare them with Pink Floyd, just that |
I agree, these two bands shouldn't be in a poll anyway, they're too different. What idea for polls will be next, Rush vs Van Der graaf Generator?
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 15:23
Both bands I used to love about a year ago, now I doubt I've pumped either of them in six months.
I chose Supertramp.
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 15:35
This was a very one-sided poll...
I'd probably vote Pfloyd, too, but I don't think they're at all close enough to compare generally.
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Posted By: fighting sleep
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 16:44
I love to death my copy of Crime of the Century. It is an amazing record. I also like some of Breakfast in America.
Unfortunately, while those two are the only worthwhile albums for me in Supertramp's catalogue, I've loved Pink Floyd in it's entirety with the exception of two albums (Lapse of Reason and Division Bell; both are absolutely terrible except the instrumental tracks). For me, Pink Floyd wins clearly, because to compare them is to compare the amazing Saucerful of Secrets, Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall, and Final Cut to Crime of the Century. And Crime is blown away.
Sorry, Supertramp.
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Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 17:27
Supertramp is great, but it cant compite with PF
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Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: February 16 2008 at 22:47
two of my faves, but Floyd has to get the nod because of the influence, popularity and longevity. They also had more albums, more classics and their whole body of work is proggier.
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: February 17 2008 at 08:15
My brother (not a prog fan) laughed when I told him Supertramp are on PA.
Pink Floyd win by a mile.
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