Best Progressive Rock Drummer
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Topic: Best Progressive Rock Drummer
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Best Progressive Rock Drummer
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 19:07
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What do you think? Who IS the best prog-rock drummer? I realize there are many more, I simply chose the ones that came to mind first. Have at it!!! |
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 19:28
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I really want to say Peart, but in the end I chose Bruford. I really wanted to vote Peart because... well he's NEIL PEART, GOD OF DRUMS! But Rush wasn't always progressive, so Peart hasn't always been a progressive drummer. And more people know of Yes rather than Rush (if I'm incorrect, sorry). And during their quasi new wave phase, the keyboard often drowned out the drums. Bruford on the other hand, has always been a progressive drummer, except in his ventures in jazz fusion in Earthworks. He has worked with all the greats in the genre (Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, UK). He was the 'prog drummer for hire' back in the day. In terms of skill, Peart is the clear victor, not saying that Bruford isn't bad, he's incredible. But in terms of progressiveness and overall work, I have to tip my proverbial hat to Bruford. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 19:30
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Oh boy... I guess i'm not a newb anymore! I think we've already had this poll once before.
------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Soulman
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 19:37
| What consitutes a drummer being the "best drummer" in terms of technique? Are there any drummers in the forum that could explain to me? |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 19:37
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I think the "journeyman", Peart, is the best Prog Rock drummer,followed by Bruford & Cobham, the rest nowhere. Some people on this site believe Peart is over-rated. Just listen to his work on TFE (a complete re-working of his style) and Vapor Trails. His performance on the 2nd Burning For Buddy album is excellent and a big improvemant on his earlier jazz outings, when he himself admitted he hadnt got the feel quite right. His full blown performances on such tracks as "Digital Man" and "The Weapon" on Signals and tracks such as "Bravado(Roll The Bones)" and "Test For Echo" (TFE) are sensational. His live drum solos are in a league of their own and I bet ever single person who believes Peart to be over-rated doesnt really rate Rush. ------------- 
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 19:42
No doubt that Peart is in a league of his own. It's just in my opinion in true 'Progressiveness' that Bruford takes the cake. -------------
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Reed Lover wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 20:14
| I apologize if this has already been a poll before. I haven't been here since The Beginning. Has there been a poll on the best keyboard player in prog-rock? If not, that poll should get some posts if I do start it. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 20:25
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not even a contest, Mr. Billy Cobham smokes em all,
easily. 
the rest are all about equal give or take a .1 % point. |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 20:32
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[QUOTE=Reed Lover]
I think the "journeyman", Peart, is the best Prog Rock drummer [QUOTE] Quit sniveling.... NO ONE said Peart wasn't great, just that he never ventured beyond RUSH. Peart is Top 5 with a bullet. No doubt. There are many, many terrific percussionists. Celebrate them all.
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Posted By: bobthesalesman
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 21:02
Bruford is not only my favorite Prog drummer...hes my favorite drummer period. 
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 21:46
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No surprise... I go for Buddy Rich's personal favorite... Carl Palmer:
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 21:47
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That was a huge suprise! ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 21:59
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Well you know I like to keep people guessing.... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: February 01 2005 at 21:59
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It depends, actually. Some people look at talent. For example, a person who looks at talent might say either Peart or Portney (ha! an alliteration!) for best prog drummer. However, some people look at feel. Then, some one like Bruford or White would be their choice. Personally, I can't decide. I love them all, but you forgot two: Danny Carey: Tool John Theodore: The Mars Volta (While both are fairly new to the prog scene, I suspect that prog bands 20 or so years down the road will look at these two and place them among the prog greats.) |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 03:18
Mike Portnoy! 
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Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 03:22
| Have to go with Billy Cobham, I like my drums jazzy. |
Posted By: Eemu Ranta
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 03:32
| Cobham |
Posted By: starofsirius
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 03:35
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Phil Collins ------------- "I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down." |
Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 04:43
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I wouldn't name someone who can smack drums very fast a better skilled
player than someone that can mix virtuosity and alternating
drumpatterns at the whim of his hands with the general feel of the song. The first category means Palmer, Peart and White. The last one means Cobham and Bruford. Still, because BB has been scaring the pants off one of the members here, and has played with all of the great prog bands, he would be the best alone. ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: Spanky
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 06:33
| Where's Terry Bozzio? |
Posted By: Lunarscape
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 07:58
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My favorite isnt listed Mr Antonio Fernandez, so I have to go for Carl Palmer..
Lunar ------------- Music Is The Soul Bird That Flies In The Immense Heart Of The Listener . . . |
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 09:12
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I don't pretend to be very original, so I've voted for Bill Bruford... ------------- I Prophesy Disaster... |
Posted By: sorcerer
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 09:15
| gotta go with Alan White lo mejor. i know some people will hate me for this, but i find Bill Bruford annoying. how can he take a perfectly good drum set and make it sound like a 99 dollar walmart rollback? favourite BB song? King Crimson Trio (Bill is credited with "admirable restraint) |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 09:43
My FAVORITE drummer is Lee Harris formerly of Talk Talk or maybe Danny
Carey of Tool. As for who the BEST drummer is, I have no idea.
------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 09:55
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All you forgot the best drummer ever: Mr Ringo Star... (Boy, was it bad...) ------------- Please forgive me for my crappy english! |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 10:36
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Bill Bruford But what Terry Bozzio did is fantastic: his album "Drawing The Circle" consists of just percussion, and it's great! |
Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 16:38
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I voted Carl Palmer, because while Bruford has incredible nuance and
balance, they are DRUMS. It's nice to just hear the raw poer of a
skilled virtuoso just thrashing mercilessly on them. I always think of Cobham as more of a jazz drummer than a rock or prog drummer. ------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 17:03
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Billy Cobham and Steve Gadd are not "progressive" drummers but jazz drummers. Phil Collins and Barriemore Barlow are not there ??? One of my favourite drummers is not a prog drummer : the late Jeff Porcaro. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: frosty
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 17:34
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Thanks starofsirius I thought I was on my own for a minute. Bruford, Peart and Portnoy aren't bad either. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 17:36
Everyone agrees that Collins is a superb drummer. Just a an arsehole for ruining Genesis! -------------
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Posted By: frosty
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 17:49
This is unfair, because if you take it in isolation his drumming is second to none. Genesis did however become crap. |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 17:54
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Steve Gadd may be strictly jazz but Bily Cobham started and is best known for Mahavishnu Orchestra who are in the archives and many people do feel are prog. Even though he does play jazz also I have never heard a strictly jazz drummer hit the skins as hard as he does so I disagree with you on that one. However I do agree with you about Phil Collins and Barry Barlow and I am adding Phil Erhart also. ------------- 
"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:01
All that padding just to bring up Phil Erhart. The Three Wise Monkeys:see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil: Reed=Rush -------------
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:24
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tip, Billy Cobham can play anything that all the other
drummers in the poll can play, none of the other drummers can play what Billy Cobham can play. the rest is just a chasing after the wind. |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:27
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
At least I did vote for Cobham. Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:28
But would you if Erhart's name had been there? -------------
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:30
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And you know this as a fact DB? Thought not. I reckon there is stuff Peart has recorded that no-one but Peart can even figure out, nevermind play. -------------
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:41
But would you if Erhart's name had been there? [/QUOTE]
No, actually I think I would have voted for BC. I like all those drummers up there and others have named (including Neil Pert
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:47
No, actually I think I would have voted for BC. I like all those drummers up there and others have named (including Neil Pert [/QUOTE] No, Garion-you would have voted for Mr Erhart! it is all conjecture anyway. People either vote for their favorite drummer or vote for the one with the most kudos attached.Billy Cobham-if he's that good how come he aint sold no recordz?Like wot Phil Collinz haz? -------------
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:51
No, Garion-you would have voted for Mr Erhart! it is all conjecture anyway. People either vote for their favorite drummer or vote for the one with the most kudos attached.Billy Cobham-if he's that good how come he aint sold no recordz?Like wot Phil Collinz haz? [/QUOTE]
Once, He tried to sing Can't hurry Love and Randy Said "Rough Dawg Rough", Paula said "you did your best you big hunk of meat but there are others better. BTW how about coming over to my hotel and singing that for me in private?" Simon said "That is the worst God awful sh*t I have ever heard. You thought about singing for Genesis?"
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 18:56
Once, He tried to sing Can't hurry Love and Randy Said "Rough Dawg Rough", Paula said "you did your best you big hunk of meat but there are others better. BTW how about coming over to my hotel and singing that for me in private?" Simon said "That is the worst God awful sh*t I have ever heard. You thought about singing for Genesis?" [/QUOTE] Oh my god, Garion-that is treason.You're gonna get flamed to death for that.Saying those awful things about Phil Collins. Get to your room!
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 19:01
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Best prog drummer - Bruford Best drummer on the list - Cobham Best drummer period - Elvin Jones Drummer who has just nailed my face to the PC and skinned me alive with his beats - Flo Mounier from the death metal outfit Cryptopsy ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 19:50
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Billy Cobham Bio-
Only a few times in history has a musician been singled out as the world-class master of his instrument. Billy Cobham is one of those few artists. For over 30 years, he has received international acclaim as the total consummate percussionist. The legendary Billy Cobham, with his matchless, dazzling, ambidextrous skills as a drummer, has applied the same insistent fervor to his long list of monumental achievements. He’s an accomplished composer and record producer. Cobham and guitarist John McLaughlin split off from Davis' group to pursue a harder rocking brand of fusion in the Mahavishnu Orchestra, which debuted in 1971 with the seminal The Inner Mounting Flame. With Mahavishnu, Cobham's fiery intensity was given its fullest airing yet, and his extraordinary technique influenced not only countless fusioneers in his wake, but also quite a few prog rock drummers who were aiming for similarly challenging musical territory. The 1972 follow-up Birds of Fire cemented his reputation. His first album as a leader, Spectrum solidifies that statement for progressive rock. He has performed on hundreds of records with his own groups and with some of the music’s most luminary artists, and his trademark - biggest, fastest, explosive drumming - has energized the international stages of concerts, symphonies, big bands, Broadway, festivals, television and video. He has been a teacher of his artistry, giving drum clinics, conducting workshops and symposiums throughout the world. His stylistic influence, which has literally created a category of music, is an outstanding part of the history of modern music. You decide |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 19:57
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This is a tough one...i'd go for Carl Palmer but i've gotta go for carl palmer.
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Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 20:21
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Billy Cobham is a phenomenal drummer, but I don't consider him a prog
rock drummer. He just played on a handful of jazz fusion albums.
------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 21:10
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1969 - Began recording with Miles Davis
1970 - 1973 Performed with John McLaughlin in Mahavishnu Orchestras with Jan Hammer, Jerry Goodman and Rick Laird. 1973 - Recorded "Spectrum" for ATLANTIC RECORDS with Tommy Bolin –gtr, Jan Hammer – Kys, Lee Sklar – E.Bs, Ron Carter – Ac. Bs, Jimmy Owens –tpt, Joe Farrell – Flute and Ray Barretto – Congas. 1974 - Recorded ‘Crosswinds" (Atlantic) and "Total Eclipse" - (Atlantic) with the same band as (1973). 1975 - Recorded "Inner Contlicts" (Atlantic) with Jimmy Owens - tp, Julian Priester - trb, Ernie Watts -sx, John Scofield - gtr, Sheila Escovedo - perc., and John B. Williams - bs 1978 - Recorded "Johnny McLaughlin - electric guitarist" with Jerry Goodman and Jan Hammer. 1979 - Toured and recorded with Tony Williams in Japan at ‘live under the Sky" Jazz Festival. Performed on concert tour with John McLaughlin, Jack Bruce, and Stu Goldberg in Europe. 1980 - Performed at Radio City Music Hall with the Gratetul Dead. Performed on concert tour with Jack Bruce and Friends. 1981 - Performed on tour with Jack Bruce and Friends featuring: David Sancious - kys, Clem Clemson - gtr, Jack Bruce - bs. Performed at the International Percussion Festival in Seattle, Washington with Tito Puente (Puerto Rico), Okuta Percussion (Nigeria), Zakir Hussain and Ala Rakka Kahn (India) 1984 - Co-produced ‘The World Of Rhythm" television special and live concert in Lugano, Switzerland, featuring Cheech and Chong, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, Louis Bellson, Gil Evans, Bob Weir and Bobby and the Midnites Michael Brecker, Randy Brecker and "Glass Menagerie". 1988 - Recorded with Peter Gabriel "Passion" soundtrack for Martin Scorcece film ‘The Last Temptation of Christ". 1990 Performed in Isreal and Santiago, Chile with Jeff Berlin and T Lavitz. 1992 - Performed and recorded and produced at WOMAD Festival with Peter Gabriel and Okuta Percussion (Nigeria), and Farafina (Bourkino Faso). 1994 - Performed with Peter Gabriel in Europe, and U.S.A. on "US" TOUR. 1997 - Performed and recorded with Paradox – "The First Second to be released on the Enja label featuring "Wolfgang Schmid - bs and Bill Bickford - gtr. Recorded "Spaces Revisited" with guitarist Larry Coryell. 1998- Performed with JAZZ IS DEAD and recorded the c.d. "Blue Light Rain" (ZEBRA) - Performed in Istanbul, Turkey with Paradox. while touring, recording and producing more than this with other famous jazz artists. oh, the first track on Inner Conflicts is a mind blower, billy drumming and playing with percussion synthesizers, kinda like Carl Palmer meets Rick Wright, but its just little Billy, woop, woop, woop! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 00:33
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I voted for Peart, Bruford's good, but Peart is the best. |
Posted By: the musical box
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 08:42
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I voted Bruford, but if there had been an "other" section :
THE MAN ------------- something pretentious |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 09:40
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I would personally pick Zoltan from the Flower Kings, because of his wonderful mix of jazz and prog drumming. I also dig Bruford, Peart, Portnoy, and Ehart. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 09:50
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Alex Acuna's one of the coolest drummers ever. But from the list I'll choose Peart for his excellent overall performance. ------------- Sun Tsu said: To fight and conquer in your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. Sun Tsu: The art of War |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 23:35
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I voted for Neil Peart, if only because I feel he doesn't get his due. (No obvious Canadian bias here) But I would be deluding myself if I didn't say that Bruford was the best Prog drummer...ever. And I think Phil Collins should have made the Poll list. No matter how much he is almost universally detested as the post-Hackett frontman for Genesis, the man could still play some mean skins. ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: Axe Victim
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 04:45
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Johnathan Weathers.......... ------------- This Whole World Has Gone Slum Gullion |
Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 04:53
Poor Steve Gadd...somebody should pick him.  Not a prog rock drummer exactly, very talented indeed though. |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 04:55
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Portnoy !!!!
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 07:21
| Peart. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 07:43
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Portnoy wants to be Peart, but has none of Peart's finesse.
Sorry, Velve, that's just the way I feel  ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 08:47
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Dallas good history - but I'll take the liberty in fine tuning and adding here and there.
The following site seems to give a much fuller discography: http://www.billycobham.com/discog.htm - http://www.billycobham.com/discog.htm |
Posted By: dougiejs
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 12:39
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Best prog drummer?Much too difficult!O.k my arm is twisted .......BRUFORD although difficult to ignore early Collins when he was still inventive or Peart for sheer technical skill Bruford is a master musician and still a strong influence on me today.I also have a special love of Guy Evans(VDGG)for his imagination dougie |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 04 2005 at 13:58
Gadzooks Heath thou art a veritable cornucopia of sagacity! Knowest thou everything Sirrah?
Cos I had a tenner yesterday and I'll be buggered if I can find it anywhere!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2005 at 06:47
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Wake up! Carl Palmers the greatest prog drummer. You lot will be voting for Karen carpenter the way you're going, as the best drummer if she were prog,well & alive.
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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 05:22
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First, I don't see Cobham as a prog drummer, but if he has to be included he's my choice, if he's not, then Bill Bruford and Carl Palmer ( I would love to see Mike Giles once in a while) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Philrod/?chartstyle=Geldropdown-small"> 
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Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 06:43
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Bill Bruford. Bill is not only my favorite prog drummer: he's my favorite drummer! |
Posted By: Hiwatter
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 06:50
| Here are missing many Italian drummers, which are very good. For example listen to Furio Chirico in Arti E Mestieri, drummer in Museo Rosenbach or Area... |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 06:51
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Furio Cherico Jaki Leibezeit Billy Cobham Michael Shrieve Phil Collins |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 06:54
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I'm not a Rush fan at all, but nevertheless: I had to vote once for Neil Peart. Though I still miss Michael Giles. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 14:33
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Since I am a "Dt fanboy", Mike Portnoy definitely
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 15:13
| Furio Chirico |
Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 15:26
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Neil Peart and Jon Theodore of The Mars Volta (I know he's not on the list, but he's incredible) get my vote.
------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 15:40
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Billy Cobham is the BEST DRUMMER ...ever ...listen to "The Noonward Race" , any other drummer got
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Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 15:43
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Area's Giulio Capiozzo (he died some years ago
ADDIO GIULIO |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 11:37
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There is absolutely no doubt about who the best prog rock drummer is: the late Pierre Moerlen of Gong (sadly died May 3rd 2005 at age 52). Just listen to him play on Gong albums like "You", "Shamal", "Gazeuse!" or any of their live albums. I don't like his drumming on later albums like "Downwind" or "Time is the Key", though his technical skills are more on display there, but the soul is lacking a bit there; he's just too busy proving he is the best on these albums. Of course Gong are not as well known a band as Genesis or Yes, and their music may prove too freaky for the taste of many, but the drums are superb, and no-one who ever heard him can deny that. Oh, and any who never heard the name and don't believe me should go to the Gong homepage http://www.planetgong.co.uk/ - http://www.planetgong.co.uk/ and have a look at the tributes given to him there. As to Billy Cobham: No doubt he is technically ultra-skilled, but his drumming in my opinion is soulless. He sounds like a car-mechanic to me. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 20:19
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I vote for litle Brufi boy, he was so cute in the 70s so thats why he gets my vote... ------------- 
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Posted By: Rhayader
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 09:19
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I'm tempted to vote for Alan White, but I think Neil Peart will get my vote. They're all amazing, though.
------------- "Sadder still to watch you die than never to have known it..." Rush - Losing It |
Posted By: Captain Squib
Date Posted: June 18 2005 at 04:20
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Alan White, then Mike Portnoy, then Carl Palmer.
Steve Howe's son Dylan has great potential! ------------- He who stands on toilet must be high on pot! |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: June 18 2005 at 06:36
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Bill Bruford
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 18 2005 at 22:21
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i was under the impression that gaad was a jazz drummer (maybe im retarded and should check it out, maybe not.) but anyway, peart is my choice, even thought i think he would better be considered a straight up rock drummer as rush is a very thin line prog group. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 00:02
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>Everyone agrees that Collins is a superb drummer. Just a an arsehole for ruining Genesis! In the new issue of Progression Magazine, it sure seems like he wants to atone for past sins. He said would do a classic Genesis tour with Gabriel on vox and Collins doing drums only. Now if only Gabriel would lighten up and do a Genesis tour! ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 00:31
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Peart.Hard to choose between him and Portnoy.Zoltan Csorsz,Virgil Donati,Terry Bozzio,Rod Morgenstein,Nick D'Virgilio,Mark Zonder,Jaime Salazar,Johan Langell,Morgan Agren,Martin Lopez,Alexander Holzwarth,Jason Rullo,Joe Nevolo and Dennis Chambers(not prog but a drum GOD)are also overlooked alot and pretty underrated.One of the best drummers playing right now is Danny Carey,without a doubt. -------------  |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 03:40
Being a drummer myself I can only whole-heartedly subscribe to that. Pierre Moerlen was the best ever. Apparently Saint Peter was of the same opinion, that's why he required him for his house-band. Other good prog drummers are (not necessarily in that order) Pip Pyle, Bill Bruford, Christian Vander, Phil Collins, Simon Phillips, Mani Neumeier, Christian Burchard, Jan Fride. To name just a few. Prog requires good drumming. Counter example: Hartwig Biereichel of Novalis. If ever you want to hear some uninspired drumming, listen to "Sommerabend" or other Novalis records on which he plays. Yuk!!! -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 05:21
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Furio Cherico - see Arti e Mestieri's Tilt/Immagini
per un orecchio Jaki Leibezeit- see Can - Tago Mago or Holger Czukay's On the Way to the Peak of Normal Billy Cobham - see Spectrum or Crosswinds Michael Shrieve - see Santana's Abraxas or Shrieve's The Big Picture Phil Collins - see Genesis' the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway or Brand X's Morrocan Roll or Brian Eno's Another Green World. |
Posted By: gleam
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 13:41
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If your going to include jazz fusion drummers such as Billy Cobham, then Lenny White (Return to forever) and Alphonse Mouzon (Eleventh House) should be included. Both combined technique and spirituality.
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Posted By: silvertree
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 15:05
| I was going to say Phil Collins when I just thought of Christian Vander (Magma). So, I guess it's Christian Vander for me ! |
Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:41
| What really ticks me off about Phil is how he's forgotten what a great drummer he is. Brand X was I think his best moment strictly as a drummer. When I picked-up Unorthodox Behaviour in '76, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I wasn't paying much attention to Genesis since Peter left and focusing more on fusion and that album just knocked my socks off. I didn't think Phil had it in him. |
Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:44
Checkout Curt Cress on early Passport, especially Cross Collateral. He's right up there with 'em. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 04:39
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From that lot, Neil Peart With Bill Bruford a close second and Carl Palmer a very close third However, most of the time I'd rather listern to Phil Collins than any of them.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 20 2005 at 05:44
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When it comes to drumming this is the man to beat. Period. R.I.P. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
