Post Rock
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Topic: Post Rock
Posted By: Melomaniac
Subject: Post Rock
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 12:01
Hey everyone !
If this is not in the proper section, feel free to change it.
I could'nt help but notice a big buzz concerning something called Post Rock, yet I have close to no idea what it's about. Anoyone care to fill me in ? What's the sound, who are the major bands, what albums should I try, etc...
Thanks for your valuable insights !
Melo
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 12:08
I suggest you listen to the tracks "Moya" by godspeed you! black emperor and "The only place we were alone" by explosions in the sky. That till give you a good idea of what it can sound like, and it's two somewhat similar tracks, except that the former is much more moody and dark, while the latter is much happier and less depressing. :)
Edit: My favourite post rock album is "F#A#oo" by godspeed, but most tend to like "lift your skinny fists like antennas to heaven" more. And it's certainly a lot more polished in sound, so it depends what you want. Sigur ros and Godspeed are the two biggest bands as far as i know, and they sound very different.
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Posted By: Xanadu
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 12:24
The post-rock signum is often very long compositions (15-25min) where so called "slow build-ups" are used in virtually every song to create a catharsis or climax. The mood is often depressing but at the same time hopeful. The use of classical instruments as violins and various trumpets can be very prominent and adds to the orchestral feel. Nothing technically fancy regarding instrument-playing, I wouldn't say minimalistic but, well compared to most prog-giants atleast, but I rather point out the importance of the instruments relation to each other.
I' m sure there is some more specific guideline out there...this is just my one minute analysis...
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 13:11
magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 13:40
soundspectrum wrote:
magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try. |
Since when is The Flaming Lips a Post-Rock band?
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:09
Thanks for starting this thread Melomaniac. I was also wondering the same thing. The Godspeed You! Black Emperor album I have (f#a#infinity symbol) which is really good. I like it a lot. I will definetly be checking this thread out from time to time to see if I can find stuff that can expand my tastes.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:26
soundspectrum wrote:
magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try. |
The Flaming Lips aren't even prog, much less post-rock.
The four pillars of post-rock, that define which direction a post-rock band will go, although many of these are actually second generation post-rock bands are probably Mogwai (more guitar dominant without using e-bow, in their early years heavier than most post-rock), Sigur Ros (ethereal e-bow music with lots of keyboards and whatnot; they never get too heavy), GYBE (more orchestral and melancholic, although from Lift... on the guitars become more dominant), and Tortiose (as far as I know, they do not have the soft-loud formula that other post-rock bands use; they create soundscapes). At least that is how I see it, but I don't have a huge amount of experience so I may be wrong.
Moya--GYBE, The Only Moment We Were Alone (this is kind of what early Mogwai sounds like)--EITS, Staralfur or Untitled 08--Sigur Ros, and Ratts of the Capitol (for later Mogwai) are probably pretty good ideas of what you might get from post-rock. And of course, you should check out 65daysofstatic simply because they sound like nothing else.
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:28
soundspectrum wrote:
magwai, sigur ross, explosions in the sky, tristeza....but probably the best is the flaming lips. give them all a try. |
The Flaming Lips post rock???
I would personally start off with some Godspeed, Sigur Ros, EITS, Red Sparowes, or Mogwai.
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:31
progismylife wrote:
Thanks for starting this thread Melomaniac. I was also wondering the same thing. The Godspeed You! Black Emperor album I have (f#a#infinity symbol) which is really good. I like it a lot. I will definetly be checking this thread out from time to time to see if I can find stuff that can expand my tastes. |
Exactly what I plan on doing. As a musician I need fresh ideas and input, and post rock is really intriguing.
Judging by what I have read so far, I'll start my explorations with GYBE, Explosions in the Sky, Sigur Ros and Mogwaï.
Keep the comments coming and thanks for those already posted. I'll keep you all posted when I get albums by these bands.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:36
Everything you listed has sample songs on this site, so be sure to take advantage of that. Also, the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30555 - Post-rock thread might help you also, although they talk a lot about obscure post-rock groups.
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:40
Ghandi 2 wrote:
Everything you listed has sample songs on this site, so be sure to take advantage of that. Also, the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30555 - Post-rock thread might help you also, although they talk a lot about obscure post-rock groups. |
Thanks, already listened to Explosions in the Sky (that sample from Earth is not a Cold Dead Place) and I liked it. Need to hear more from them.
Someone told me that GYBE is mainly responsible for the soundtrack to 28 Days Later, soundtrack which I really liked while watching the film. Were the songs written for the film or can they be found on one of their albums ?
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 15:59
That's not entirely true. Part of East Hastings (or it might have been The Dead Flag Blues) from f#a#(infinity) were included in it, but I don't think it was the majority of the music, and it's not on the 28 Days Later soundtrack because they are bunch of far-left anti-globalization Canadians, so they refuse to participate with any major label.
Pandora.com and free napster.com usually have many of these bands because most of them are actually very famous. Napster in particular is good becuause you can often listen to full albums multiple times for free. For Pandora, put in a band, and then once the song finishes delete the station and start another one on the same group. Soon enough you will run into repeats, but in the meantime you get to hear lots of free music that usually is fairly representative of their sound. You do have to be careful, however. For example, Pandora will often play a song from How Strange, Innocence, for EITS, when in fact that album is their debut EP and so is not quite like The Earth is not a Cold Dead Place. Or they will do something from Yangui UXO, when the other godspeed albums (particularly f#a#(infinity)) are not as guitar-dominated. But on the flip side, I once got Providence, which is not a half hour of free music. BTW, if you do listen to it in some form, there's four minutes of silence near the end; your internet/CD player hasn't crapped out. :)
And the more obscure groups usually have sample songs on their website or MySpace. One thing I most regret is that I didn't actually hear enough before I made some of my purchases. It's all well and good to read about how much other people like it, but they can be coming from completely different musical perspectives, as I found out.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:09
I'll be glad to recommend some bands to start getting into the genre, but I need some background info first.
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:11
I really enjoyed the GYBE I have. But I don't know where to go from there. Except maybe getting more GYBE albums.
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:16
Try Sigur Ros and Explosions In The Sky, I'm sorry I can't recommend more bands as I've only listened to SR, EITS and GYBE
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:29
I'd say explosions in the sky is the best place for a beginner. 'The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place' is the way to go. This band has the rare ability to conjure raw emotion out of thin air with nothing but 3 guitars and a drum set. absoluely epic.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:34
progismylife wrote:
I really enjoyed the GYBE I have. But I don't know where to go from there. Except maybe getting more GYBE albums.
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You can also check out A Silver Mt. Zion, one of the many GYBE related bands. I think is better to have a bit more variety so check out Red Sparowes - At the Soundless Dawn. It's a very powerful and emotional album. Or you can also check out the "usual suspects" like Mogwai, Sigur Ros, Explosions in the Sky and Do make Say Think.
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:39
I like Slint and Shellac... *moves for some sort of proto-post-rock section just to add confusion*
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:40
post rock has absolutly nothing to do with progressive rock. the flaming lips may very well have invented the genre, and a lot these bands that are being mentioned are more so ambient then post rock. i suppose since they arent show offs that writes them off as some non-elitist band eh???
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:47
Listening to Mogwai last night, I realized that I might learn to like the genre after all, and listening to the climax of Ratts of the Capital Now... I'm sure of it.
After that, it'll be Sigur Ros to see just how great an effect has been wrought by Mogwai on my poor little brain. And then it's off to some GY!BE.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:51
Depending on your musical preferences, I would say:
Accessible & melodic:
Explosions in the Sky - The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place Sigur Rós - Agaetis Byrjun
Hard & Heavy:
Red Sparowes - At The Soundless Dawn Pelican - The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw
Jazzy & Loose:
Do Make Say Think (any of their albums) Tortoise - TNT
Slightly avant-garde (chamber rock)
A Silver Mt. Zion - Born Into Trouble As The Sparks Fly Upward Bell Orchestre - Recording A Tape The Colour of the Light
I think these are all good places to start. Mogwai and GY!BE are obvious choices as well, if you do not know them yet.
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 17:56
Staralfur has captured me... looks like post rock is about to enter my preferred genres list...
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 18:14
inpraiseoffolly wrote:
Staralfur has captured me... looks like post rock is about to enter my preferred genres list... |
Good to hear!
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 18:27
soundspectrum wrote:
post rock has absolutly nothing to do with progressive rock. the flaming lips may very well have invented the genre, and a lot these bands that are being mentioned are more so ambient then post rock. i suppose since they arent show offs that writes them off as some non-elitist band eh??? |
Not a chance in hell did The Flaming Lips invent post-rock. You clearly should learn more about post-rock. You may think that they are post-rock, but they are not under any commonly accepted definition of the term.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 18:36
Post rock is really great stuff! You can't go wrong with Sigur Ros (except maybe Von). It's without question the most beautiful modern music.
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Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 19:19
Once you guys start to get more acclimated with the genre, check out the Post-Rock/Experimental Appreciation Thread! Plenty of updates and discussions abound - and there's talk of some deeper bands.
I second A Silver Mt. Zion and Do Make Say Think as must-listen. The rest listed are all excellent as well. Once you listen to this genre, it's hard to stop. It just provides a sound that nothing else can deliver.
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 02:19
ghandi, i have a feeling that not only do you not know jack about the flaming lips, you have a problem with admitting that you are wrong. could you again remind me where the roots of post rock are??? since you seem to know all about the genre, and about life. dil
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 02:27
chamberry wrote:
progismylife wrote:
I really enjoyed the GYBE I have. But I don't know where to go from there. Except maybe getting more GYBE albums.
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You can also check out A Silver Mt. Zion, one of the many GYBE related bands. I think is better to have a bit more variety so check out Red Sparowes - At the Soundless Dawn. It's a very powerful and emotional album. Or you can also check out the "usual suspects" like Mogwai, Sigur Ros, Explosions in the Sky and Do make Say Think.
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I almost picked up some Mogwai but I didn't know where I had heard that name so I didn't buy any. Guess I will have to go back and buy some sometime in the future.
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Posted By: the man machine
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 03:37
dunno if they are post rock but definately get some don caballero , american don or world class listening problem to start with.
tortoise - tnt godspeed you black emperor is brilliant to.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 03:45
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Great recommendations! The Dons are amazing, anything you can find is worth it, 'Don Cab II', 'Singles Breaking Up', all great math rock. If you like them, another good band is Oxes. Rachel's is wonderful too, for softer chamber rock.
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Posted By: CaptainWafflos
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 07:32
soundspectrum wrote:
ghandi, i have a feeling that not only do you not know jack about the flaming lips, you have a problem with admitting that you are wrong. could you again remind me where the roots of post rock are??? since you seem to know all about the genre, and about life. dil
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Talk Talk was in the process of releasing their groundbreaking Spirit of Eden while The Flaming Lips were still releasing mediocre '80s pop albums.
I'd have to agree with the others on this one. I'm not exactly understanding where you're hearing post-rock in The Flaming Lips' early work especially.
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 12:18
if Flaming Lips are postrock then Mercury Rev are prog.......hmmm.......
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 15:25
CaptainWafflos wrote:
soundspectrum wrote:
ghandi, i have a feeling that not only do you not know jack about the flaming lips, you have a problem with admitting that you are wrong. could you again remind me where the roots of post rock are??? since you seem to know all about the genre, and about life. dil |
Talk Talk was in the process of releasing their groundbreaking Spirit of Eden while The Flaming Lips were still releasing mediocre '80s pop albums.
I'd have to agree with the others on this one. I'm not exactly understanding where you're hearing post-rock in The Flaming Lips' early work especially.
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Indeed, I see no connection between The Flaming Lips and post-rock whatsoever... even in their early and more commonly ignored material.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 15:50
moreitsythanyou wrote:
Post rock is really great stuff! You can't go wrong with Sigur Ros (except maybe Von). It's without question the most beautiful modern music. |
Weird picture of a 'spotless and heroic' looking guy you got there! He reminds me a bit of a guy I sometimes bump into on the street, here in Oxford (U.K.). But the guy I bump into has spots and doesn't look a bit heroic. He always eyes me with suspicion. Seems to be thinking that I KNOW him! Anyway, he squints a little, but he looks all the better for that!
P.S. They say he's a singer in a rock group. Surely not one of those fashionable new 'post rock' bands?
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 20:29
soundspectrum wrote:
ghandi, i have a feeling that not only do you not know jack about the flaming lips, you have a problem with admitting that you are wrong. could you again remind me where the roots of post rock are??? since you seem to know all about the genre, and about life. dil |
I don't know everything, I just know the bare minimum about post-rock. No need to be a sarcastic ass. The roots of post-rock are Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden, Bark Psychosis, and to a lesser extent, Tortoise. But I'm not going to give you a history of post-rock: look it up on Wikipedia or Google. While you're at it, how about you find one website that calls them post-rock? A real website, too, not just some guy on a forum.
The Flaming Lips are adventerous alt-rock. That doens't make them bad, but they're not post-rock, and even calling them prog would be a large stretch.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 20:34
I'm reinforcing those who say the Flaming Lips aren't post rock.
I really can't think of any album by the Lips that could be even considered post rock.
Where's the resemblance to Mogwai, GY!BE, Sigur Ros (well, I can kind of see a SMALL resemblance AT TIMES there), Red Sparowes, or similar post rock bands I'm familiar with?
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 22:51
the Lips, like Mercury Rev, belong to the more far-out end of alt rock. Like the Rev they've also dabbled in avant-garde and psychedelic stuff but if u ask me they're both about creating the perfect pop song-cycle masterpiece in the vein of Pet Sounds/Smile/Sgt Pepper/Scott 3 rather than going for a Dark Side of The Moon or OK Computer, much less a Millions Now Living Will Never Die or Lift Yr Skinny Fists.........
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 04 2007 at 03:37
im glad to see wikipedias definitions can be regurgatated throughout the world. close your eyes and open your ears.
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Posted By: scaudill
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 00:29
I've just recently, in the last 6 months, gotten my hands on some fine post rock. My favorites so far:
GYBE MONO: Check out "Under the Pipal Tree" God Is An Astronaut (highly recommend)
Still looking and learning...
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Posted By: A Guy
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 15:03
Try Isis's Panopticon maybe. It's kind of post-metal, quite interesting.
I also heard this band called Boxes of Squares, I'm not sure if they are post-rock or not but they kind of sound like it if I remember correctly.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 15:33
soundspectrum wrote:
im glad to see wikipedias definitions can be regurgatated throughout the world. close your eyes and open your ears. |
Yes, everyone's stupid but you. You still haven't given me a single source that says The Flaming Lips are Post-Rock. You can't just define genres how you wish, even with a genre as nebulous as post-rock: it has to be corroroborated by other people, or we would have musical chaos.
Also, I have to warn you: that track by EITS is the heaviest on The Earth is not a Cold Dead Place, and most of the other songs don't come close to rocking that hard. I'm warning you because when I first listened to it that is what I was expecting. Which is much what Mogwai sounds like, who seem to me to be unfairly ignored on this site in favor of GYBE or Sigur Ros.
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 18:56
musical chaos??? scary aint it??? I dont know what id do without genres...how else could i pretend like im better than everybody with my elitist taste?
it would seem that this is the conservative view on music....when i do present a "source" on this trivial topic must it be recognized by a notary as well???
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 19:53
No, just show that someone who has some idea what he's talking about shares your perception of post-rock. Remember, it has to be a real website.
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Posted By: MysticalGaze
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 22:07
post-rock is a diverse genre. you have bands like Stereolab, Godspeed You Black Emperor!/A Silver Mt Zion, Cul de Sac, Magyar Posse, Lebanon, Bark Psychosis, Beware of Safety, Mogwai, Tortoise, Explosions in the Sky, Broadcast etc covering a wide spectrum. I wouldn't say that it has anything to do with having 15 minute plus songs.
there are many subdivisions within the genre. also of interest is post-metal, bands like Isis, Russian Circles etc that don't quite fit into post-rock.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 23:23
Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 05:16
Originally posted by soundspectrum
im glad to see wikipedias definitions can be regurgatated throughout the world. close your eyes and open your ears.
yes, while vehemently denying all common sense and basic consensus, i suppose. i'm not one for majority rulez always watever but theres gotta be SOME limits set somewhere.........
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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 07:23
Just discovered a great post-rock band from New Zealand called Jakob.
Anyone ever hear of them?
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 09:45
none of this stuff is challenging in anyway so I can't find myself loving it, but I do quite like bark psychosis, slint and rachel's.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 09:47
Interesting... MotA's hardcore vocals are a whole lot more present than Isis. Hell, on Panopticon you can hardly tell there's vocals at all sometimes. They are certainly an acquired taste, but I think it adds another element to the power of the music.
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 11:57
without the vokillz the whole picture is just not there. esp so for a band like Neurosis......
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 13:41
laplace wrote:
none of this stuff is challenging in anyway so I can't find myself loving it, but I do quite like bark psychosis, slint and rachel's. |
o rly? I think that groups like GYBE or Mogwai do present a "challenge" (even if it's not as much as Ruins or whatever), but even so, I don't necessarily always want to be challenged whenever I listen to music.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 14:15
Ghandi 2 wrote:
o rly? I think that groups like GYBE or Mogwai do present a
"challenge" (even if it's not as much as Ruins or whatever), but even
so, I don't necessarily always want to be challenged whenever I listen
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But he apparently does. Freedom of opinion!
Personally, I find some Post-Rock bands more challenging than other,
and I tend to prefer the more challenging ones, although I listen to
not-very-challenging-at-all music aswell.
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 17:31
Ghandi 2 wrote:
No, just show that someone who has some idea what he's talking about shares your perception of post-rock. Remember, it has to be a real website. |
as opposed to a fake website??
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 17:53
GoldenSpiral wrote:
Interesting... MotA's hardcore vocals are a whole lot more present than Isis. Hell, on Panopticon you can hardly tell there's vocals at all sometimes. They are certainly an acquired taste, but I think it adds another element to the power of the music.
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I must've been listening to the wrong stuff by Isis then Neurosis still probably has the worst of those ...I think it can occasionally add to the music, but sometimes they're just totally unnecessary
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:27
soundspectrum wrote:
Ghandi 2 wrote:
No, just show that someone who has some idea what he's talking about shares your perception of post-rock. Remember, it has to be a real website. |
as opposed to a fake website??
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No, a real website, such as The Silent Ballet, as opposed to some guy on a forum, like yourself, or some idiot's Angelfire page. I think you are being deliberately annoying to evade the inescapable fact that The Flaming Lips are not post-rock (and for other reasons as well).
One question mark is sufficient.
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: February 08 2007 at 20:33
CaptainWafflos wrote:
soundspectrum wrote:
ghandi, i have a feeling that not only do you not know jack about the flaming lips, you have a problem with admitting that you are wrong. could you again remind me where the roots of post rock are??? since you seem to know all about the genre, and about life. dil
| Talk Talk was in the process of releasing their groundbreaking Spirit of Eden while The Flaming Lips were still releasing mediocre '80s pop albums.I'd have to agree with the others on this one. I'm not exactly understanding where you're hearing post-rock in The Flaming Lips' early work especially. |
All true, except that the albums TFL released in the 80s aren't mediocre - they're pretty good!
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 03:10
I hope your basking in all your glory. But things can change, after all your beloved wikipedia can be edited by anybody but not without signing up for FREE. I just may be able to rewrite history after all. I believe there is a winter load waiting for you at the silent ballet, open up.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 03:15
laplace wrote:
none of this stuff is challenging in anyway so I can't find myself loving it, but I do quite like bark psychosis, slint and rachel's.
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Hey a Rachel's fan!
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 14:27
Atavachron wrote:
laplace wrote:
none of this stuff is challenging in anyway so I can't find myself loving it, but I do quite like bark psychosis, slint and rachel's.
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Hey a Rachel's fan! |
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 14:29
soundspectrum wrote:
I hope your basking in all your glory. But things can change, after all your beloved wikipedia can be edited by anybody but not without signing up for FREE. I just may be able to rewrite history after all. I believe there is a winter load waiting for you at the silent ballet, open up. |
Things may change at wikipedia, but it still wont change the fact that The Flaming Lips are aren't post-rock.
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 15:17
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 16:01
^Could you explain to me exactly what makes The Flaming Lips a Post-Rock band?
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Posted By: Fede
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 17:43
I simply can't understand why everybody claims Explosion In The Sky to be a great band . I mean, I saw them on tv long time ago, I think the song was called Greet Death and I thought: "This has to be the most boring band ever. Music can't get any more boring than this". If I can remember well, I almost slept while hearing and seeing these guys, really .
Totally directionless noise, sorry guys. Is just my opinion.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 17:52
And no one has yet explained why or how the Flaming Lips are post rock.
Please tell me.
Dream Theater are now Canterbury guys. Just thought you'd like to know.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:16
Fede wrote:
I simply can't understand why everybody claims Explosion In The Sky to be a great band . I mean, I saw them on tv long time ago, I think the song was called Greet Death and I thought: "This has to be the most boring band ever. Music can't get any more boring than this". If I can remember well, I almost slept while hearing and seeing these guys, really .
Totally directionless noise, sorry guys. Is just my opinion.
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Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it of course.
However, EitS, (and a lot of this genre for that matter) is all about subtlety. They aren't going to throw anything in your face. They have incredible sense of melody and harmony, but they don't blast it out. Instead they develop it. It's just a different style of composing.
Now, if you'd like me to recommend some REAL directionless noise, I can do that as well...
Yes, sometimes they take a while to get to the point, but I think it's worthwhile everytime.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:19
stonebeard wrote:
Dream Theater are now Canterbury guys. Just thought you'd like to know.
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.... walking away from that one...
again.. I'd still love to know just what the hell Post Rock is, the
definition didn't do much for me... I'd love to have a Post Rock
specialist liason with the Art Rock team as we get every Tom, Dick and
Harry thrown at us for inclusion.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:24
micky wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Dream Theater are now Canterbury guys. Just thought you'd like to know.
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.... walking away from that one...
again.. I'd still love to know just what the hell Post Rock is, the
definition didn't do much for me... I'd love to have a Post Rock
specialist liason with the Art Rock team as we get every Tom, Dick and
Harry thrown at us for inclusion.
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Post-rock is a bit too nebulous to define in a few sentences. Best bet is to listen to a few tracks from the bands suggested toward the beginning of this thread, and you'll get the idea.
My best bet for a general definition would be music that aims to create a certain mood or tell a story through instrumental modulation, rather than a show of technical skill, but that still probably doesn't help much
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:28
GoldenSpiral wrote:
micky wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Dream Theater are now Canterbury guys. Just thought you'd like to know.
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.... walking away from that one...
again.. I'd still love to know just what the hell Post Rock is, the
definition didn't do much for me... I'd love to have a Post Rock
specialist liason with the Art Rock team as we get every Tom, Dick and
Harry thrown at us for inclusion.
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Post-rock
is a bit too nebulous to define in a few sentences. Best bet is
to listen to a few tracks from the bands suggested toward the beginning
of this thread, and you'll get the idea.
My best bet for a
general definition would be music that aims to create a certain mood or
tell a story through instrumental modulation, rather than a show of
technical skill, but that still probably doesn't help much
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ahhh.. the ol' you know it when you hear it kind of thing thanks!..... want a job on the AR team? hahhahah.
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: February 09 2007 at 22:41
Originally posted by chamberry
Originally posted by soundspectrum
I
hope your basking in all your glory. But things can change, after all
your beloved wikipedia can be edited by anybody but not without signing
up for FREE. I just may be able to rewrite history after all. I believe
there is a winter load waiting for you at the silent ballet, open up. |
Things may change at wikipedia, but it still wont change the fact that The Flaming Lips are post-rock.
thats what ive been saying this whole time
defining something is not just insisting what it sounds like to you but balancing it with respect and awareness of music history and criticism. Its amazing how pple who apparently listen to so much music can in reality be listening to so very little.
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 05:23
superprog wrote:
Originally posted by chamberry
Originally posted by soundspectrum
I hope your basking in all your glory. But things can change, after all your beloved wikipedia can be edited by anybody but not without signing up for FREE. I just may be able to rewrite history after all. I believe there is a winter load waiting for you at the silent ballet, open up. | Things may change at wikipedia, but it still wont change the fact that The Flaming Lips are post-rock.
thats what ive been saying this whole time
defining something is not just insisting what it sounds like to you but balancing it with respect and awareness of music history and criticism. Its amazing how pple who apparently listen to so much music can in reality be listening to so very little.
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the profoundness of this is confusing....what?
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 05:51
^Could you please explain how The Flaming Lips are a Post-Rock band? I
don't hear it in their music, neither does anyone else on this
site.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 10:57
Sorry. I meant to say aren't.
Big mistake.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 18:36
soundspectrum wrote:
I hope your basking in all your glory. But things can change, after all your beloved wikipedia can be edited by anybody but not without signing up for FREE. I just may be able to rewrite history after all. I believe there is a winter load waiting for you at the silent ballet, open up. |
I don't even go to The Silent Ballet; it was just the first site I thought of.
Oh what glory I have now. And what glory you will have when you change Wikipedia.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 20:58
hello....
No, sorry, wrong number.
EDIT: by the way, not that anybody cares, but F#A# was good! My second post-album that I enjoy! (curiously, by the same band as the first one <LYSFLATH>)....
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 21:23
^^^ I do care. Good to know. Starting with ( ) and Come on Die Young was a bad move and it's good to know that you recovered.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 05:37
The T wrote:
EDIT: by the way, not that anybody cares, but F#A# was good! My
second post-album that I enjoy! (curiously, by the same band as the
first one <LYSFLATH>)....
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Great! Don't forget to check out Yanqui U.X.O. and the Slow Riot for New Zerø Kanada EP by GY!BE if you haven't done that yet.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 05:44
And frankly T, if you like complex heavy instrumental, you'd better get the F***ing Champs 'Champs III', and soon ...pleeeeez
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 15:01
Yanqui U.X.O. or whatever, that one I can get in in my local record store so I will do it this week. f**king Champs or whatever, on the other hand, may be mopre difficult, but we'll try. (well, I haven't really looked for it yet, so maybe I can find it...if not, the world wide web)...
But GYBE! is a very good group. I can't argue with that.
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