What good power cords can do
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Subject: What good power cords can do
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 12:48
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The Synergistic Research AC Master Coupler And You Thought Power Cords Don't Make A Difference by Brian Damkroger The Absolute Sound, Volume 20, Issue 104 "I'll come over this weekend," my friend Jim said. "I've got something that will really mess with your mind." He had a sort of embarrassed smile and even seemed a bit red-faced. "Power cords," he said and headed back to his office. You've got to understand --- Jim and I are engineers, scientists, seekers of truth and purveyors of logic. Metallurgists by training, we work in a research group that focuses primarily on advanced diagnostics, computer simulation, and process controls. Known to be audiophiles by our fellow co- workers, we are constantly either derided for claiming we hear things that can't possibly be real, or, once co-workers listen for themselves, besieged with requests to explain the underlying physical reason for the differences. Turntables, speaker stands, tip toes, cables --- the list goes on and on. Up until now, we've done pretty well. But power cords? They can't possibly make a difference, can they? And they cost how much? I wonder if thoughts like this once went through HP's head when he first contemplated the "built in a Bronx garage" Linn LP-12? "So this is what the lunatic fringe looks like," I thought as I contemplated the power cords --- excuse me: Synergistic Research A/ C Master Couplers. The couplers are black, with the cable sheathed in a black plastic mesh and terminated on one end with a three-prong plug and on the other by a standard IEC jack. Both connectors are extremely heavy duty and the cable/connector intersections are encased in black heat shrink. Judging by feel, the cable configuration inside the sheath is two parallel conductors, each slightly over 1/4" in diameter. The literature provided with the couplers confirms this, representing the cable cross-section as two parallel multi-strand conductors, each individually shielded. The cable is said to eliminate "RF Interference . . . through a balanced cable geometry [that] shunts noise in the A/C line to ground." The literature also notes that the specific dielectric components used were selected on the basis of listening tests, as were the gold-plated standard connectors. Other lengths, and 90 degree connectors (on either end), are also available. The 90 degree connectors may prove useful in many applications because the cable is quite stiff, requiring several inches to make the turn toward a component. The cable appeared to be well-made and the packaging and literature, while not extravagant, were well presented. The literature suggested several possible sequences for determining the best place to locate a limited number of couplers in systems of various configurations. None of their example system configurations matched mine, but it doesn't really matter --- the instructions boil down to "Try them everywhere, but start with the front end." In my system [see sidebar], this meant the couplers fed my VTL Ultimate preamp and Threshold PCX crossover. (Neither my turntable nor my CD player has a removable power cord.) Prior to any listening, both the preamp and crossover were powered up continuously for 96 hours, and had been playing music or the XLO break-in CD for 12 hours. The literature suggests that the couplers could continue to break in for as long as a month (of occasional listening), but experience with other systems suggested that the 96/12 break-in procedure above would be adequate. Broken in, warmed up, and ready to go, I sat down for what was sure to be a night of careful critical listening and agonizing over subtleties. Power cords. They can't possibly make a difference, can they? The answer is Yes. Unequivocally, resoundingly, and oh my, Yes. How big a difference? Remember the difference you heard the first time you replaced your zip coed with real speaker cables? This is bigger. How about the day you cleaned all your contacts and oriented all of your AC plugs? This is bigger, much bigger. To put it in perspective, the difference is akin to replacing an undistinguished MOSFET stereo amp with a pair of absolutely top-flight mono tube amps --- or replacing a midfi direct-drive turntable with a well set up Linn, Sota, or VPI. To say I was unprepared for the difference these power cords made would be a big, big understatement. The most telling assessment was made by my girlfriend, Bonnie, who loves music but certainly doesn't consider herself an audiophile. Unfailingly, she could tell within the first five seconds of a record, any record I put on, which power cords were in the system --- from the kitchen, which is down the hall and around the corner. But, I'm getting ahead of myself. The differences wrought in my system by the additions of these power cords were positive, dramatic, and immediately apparent. However, unlike some immediate, drastic changes, the differences brought about by the cords didn't wear on me with time. In fact, the more I listened to my system with the Master Couplers in place, the more difficult I found it to believe I had tolerated my system without them. Whenever I removed the couplers from my systems, I found myself shaking my head and wondering, "Have I been listening to this?" To say that the Master Couplers moved my system toward the absolute sound is true, but doesn't really capture the magnitude or sense of that movement. Suppose, for example, that you went from having one penny to having two. One way to describe this is to say that you went from 99 cents short of a dollar to 98 cents short, not a big change with respect to the dollar. However, another way to describe the change is to say that you doubled your wealth --- a big change from where you were. The absolute sound is a long way out there, couplers or no couplers. But oh what those things do for a system! The only way to capture the impact of the AC Master Couplers is to concentrate on the doubling of wealth, to describe the differences themselves. These differences, in decreasing order of apparent magnitude, were an increase in the dimensionally of individual instruments in the soundstage; an opening up of the soundstage, or increase in air between individual instruments; replacement of the smog between images in the soundstage with crystal clear air; an increase in the sharpness of the leading edge of transients, both spatially and temporally; and increase in bass extension and precision; and a decrease in high-frequency garbage. Although all of these changes are inter-related, first I'll try to describe each individually and give examples I noted during my listening sessions. The most immediate and noticeable effect of the Master Couplers was an increase in the dimensionally and body of individual images. This was most apparent with vocals, solo instruments, or small groups. Examples of the first include John Mellencamp on Uh-huh [Riva RVL 7504] or Joe Jackson on Night and Day [A&M SP-4906]. With the Master Couplers, the vocals took on palpable dimensionally and body, whereas with the standard cords in place, they were somewhat twodimensional, layered on the front edge of the soundfield. A mental picture of this two-dimensional image might be a plate, or saucer, hanging in space, with somewhat diffuse edges. With the Master Couplers, the voices became three-dimensional, surrounded by a cushion of air. Here the mental picture was one of, say, a basketball, with sharply defined edges. On Neil Young's Unplugged [Reprise 9362-45310-1], the effect is clearly evident on both the lead and background vocals. Additional insight is afforded by John Klemmer's Straight from the Heart [Nautilus NR4]. In this case, the added dimensionally seems to result from an increase in inner detail --- intricacies of the sound of the air moving through the horn give it size and presence. The same is true of the Sheffield Michael Newman disk [Lab 10]. Here, the relative locations of different sounds --- the fingers against the strings, the initial snap of the string, and the resonance of the guitar's body --- give the instrument its dimensionally. With the Master Couplers in place, subtle shifts in the instruments' position are clearly evident as such. With the standard cords in place, the shifts are barely perceptible, and then only as changes in tonal character. With record after record, the added dimensionally and detail were nothing short of dramatic. The Master Couplers also opened up the soundstage. I don't mean to say that the outer boundaries of the soundstage moved outward --- they did, particularly in terms of depth --- but that's not what I'm getting at here. The difference was more an increased perception of separation between, or distinction of, individual images in the soundstage. With the Master Couplers, the image centers weren't significantly farther apart, but the edges, of the images and spaces between them were now real, distinct, and three-dimensional. In recordings with a natural acoustic --- for example, the spotlighted solos in the Chesky Scheherazade reissue [Chesky RC4] --- this resulted in the instruments having more body, and the space between becoming more obvious as a separate entity, filled with the mixed resonance and decay of not only the solo instrument, but also the surrounding instruments and hall. Another example is Danse Macabre on Witches' Brew [LSC-2225]. Here, the combination of dimensionally, detail, and the soundstage opening made some of the denser passages seem more like individual instruments combined, rather than simply a canned, congealed sound. The heightened awareness of the space added a bit of the charged excitement of a live performance. On multi-miked rock, the empty space between images was just that -- - empty, really empty. Further, the emptiness had a clarity and sharpness that made it apparent that, with the standard cords, the space had actually been filled with a cloudy film. This is the third wonder wrought by the Master Couplers, the removal of not a veil or film over the soundstage, but rather the greasy, cloudy, grungy matrix that the images were suspended in. I know, I know --- your system doesn't suspend images in a grungy matrix. Well, neither did mine, until that Master Couplers showed me what the soundstage could be like without the grungy matrix! Remember the saucer and basketball images? With the standard cords, the mental picture is of saucers suspended in a three- dimensional rectangle made out of, say, paraffin, or plastic that had been clouded by age. With the Master Couplers, imagine instead basketballs suspended in crystal clear air, like a window you have to touch to make sure it's there, or for we westerners, a crisp, clear morning at about 8,500 feet when you'd swear you could see someone in Kansas if they stood on their roof. This clarity is further augmented, or more likely supported, by the fourth difference I attributed to the Master Couplers --- an increase in the sharpness of the leading edge of transients. This increase had two aspects. The first is temporal, meaning that the transients sound faster. The second is spatial, in that transients seem to arise from a more specific, and rigidly fixed, point in space. One of the major shortfalls of recorded music is an incorrect handling of transients. It's easy to identify a live band down the hall, around the corner, and at the other end of a bar. One rim shot is all it takes. Why? I think a big part of it has to do with transient performance. Maybe it's micro-dynamics, maybe absolute rise time, or maybe phase coherence at the leading edge of the transient. One of the things single-ended/horn speakers systems do is capture this sense of transients. This is the sort of improvement the Master Couplers bring about. Rim shots still don't push the buttons that say "real," but they're sure closer. I expected this sort of almost tactile improvement on the Sheffield Drum Record [Lab 14]. However, it caught me by surprise on Melissa Etheridge's Brave and Crazy [Island ILPS 9939]. Another good example is the added snap on the bass guitar in The Sky is Crying by Stevie Ray Vaughn [Epic E47390]. Finally, the last two effects illustrate that changes, while consistent, can be perceived differently in different systems, or by different listeners. I live in, and am slowly (glacially, according to Bonnie) rebuilding an old adobe farmhouse. An additional electrical service and dedicated power lines have yet to be added to my listening room. At present, the whole system is being fed by two circuits that are shared with major appliances and include stretches of "historically correct" fabric covered wire. Similarly, the power supplies in my VTL electronics appear to be of reasonable strength and sophistication, but aren't as massive as some. I would expect my system to be a fertile environment for anything that cleans, filter, conditions, or otherwise help with power. At the other extreme, however, the Master Couplers were inserted into another system, featuring Krell Reference Series electronics in a custom-built listening room with individual, dedicated 20 amp lines and hospital-grade outlets. A system with measurable clean, stable power and Hoover Dam caliber power supplies. In this system, all of the changes described above were again readily apparent, and of a similar magnitude as in my system. Additionally present, however, was a significant increase in bass extension, definition, and power. As I mentioned, I had heard the increased bass definition in my system, as an increased snap in the initial pluck of the bass guitar strings on the Stevie Ray Vaughn disk, for example. The increased extension was also apparent in my system, but not nearly to the degree as with the Krells. With the Krells, the improved low bass was so startling, it first sounded as id perhaps the actual effect was an increase in bass definition and a learning out of the upper bass, the 90- 10 Hz region. (The sort of hole that can arise from an unfortunate match of a speaker cable and crossover network.) After several records, though, this didn't seem to be the case. This illustrates how, in different systems, the same basic changes in the sound can be perceived as different effects. In both systems, the immediate listener response to the Master Couplers was usually "dramatically increased dimensionally and body, cleaner and clearer." In the Krell system, it was "much better bass, cleaner and clearer." The listener response, of course, depends on the listener, which brings me to the last effect of the Master Couplers, a reduction in high frequency garbage. I mentioned earlier that Bonnie could tell immediately from the kitchen, which cords were in the system. To her, the difference was a decrease in what she described as "harshness" or "brightness." She listens primarily to CDs, heard, over the years, on a variety of different (inexpensive) players incorporating different filtering techniques. With these players, a decrease in harshness is often accompanied by a decrease in level of inner detail or actual high frequency extension and air. She finds herself returning to simpler players, unwilling to throw out the baby with the bath water, so to speak. In this case, however, she commented that the "hardness is gone, but it isn't like a filter. There is actually more detail and better high frequency definition." In fact, she found some of her favorite CDs unlistenable with the standard cords. Once she pointed it out to me, it was obvious. On Chain Gang by the Pretenders [SIRE 25664-2], or Pulling Teeth by Green Day [Reprise 45529-2], the sound with the Master Couplers was not exactly relaxed, but the ragged edges on the vocals and/or guitars were part of their inherent sound, not layer on top. It wasn't just CDs that were cleaned up and more relaxed, however. The John Klemmer album was an example of where a noticeable hash was cleaned off an LP. To Bonnie, the record sounded "brighter" and "dirtier" with the standard cords. To me, the sax sounded squeezed, which I've learned is a sure sign of high frequency garbage. This just points out how different listeners respond differently to the same changes. To me, the decrease in grunge was most apparent in the increased clarity, dimensionally, and body. To Bonnie, it was a dramatic reduction in high-frequency hash. Clearly, all of these effects are different manifestations of the same change, so how do they all fit together? For whatever reason, the AC Master Couplers allow a system to better preserve the fine detail and phase integrity of a signal, simultaneously reducing spurious noise that results from either external sources or internal interactions. The result is a huge --- I repeat, huge --- leap forward in the realism of the sound coming out of a system. The difference between, say, the sharper ring and decay of an Ovation guitar and the deeper body and resonance of a Martin take on a new level of prominence. With the Master Couplers, you get a much better sense of hearing the body of the guitar, rather than just a sound emanating from an area in space. Similarly, the spatial dimensionally and layering of multiple images within a soundfield are more apparent. With a densely orchestrated work, the effect is an increase in both the body and overall acoustic envelope and the ability to distinguish individual voices or edges of the soundfield. I've already mentioned Danse Macabre. In the case of rock records, where the individual instruments don't interact in an acoustic space, the effect is sort of a "virtual reality" spatial and temporal interplay of the voices. For example, listen to "In a Lonely Room" on the Smithereens' Especially for You [Enigma ST-73208]. The dance between the instruments, particularly the vocals, is enchanting. Another example is the Etheridge Brave and Crazy, and the song of the same name. Part of the fun on rock records is listening to the effects superimposed onto individual images, and how the producer or engineer used these effects, in the construction of the soundfield, as part of the voice itself. For example, listen to the feeding in and out of the echo on Jennifer Warnes' voice on We Take Manhattan [Cypress 661 111-1]. Intended or not, the effect is to move the vocal into and out of the soundfielld, not so much in terms of absolute position but rather in apparent interaction with the surrounding instruments. Another example is "Raise the Morning Star," the opening cut on Bruce Cockburn's Stealing Fire [Gold Mountain GM 80012]. Here, an echo gives the background vocals an otherworldly presence. Record after record, I found myself grinning as I discovered new wonders and pulled out new records to try. Fun! So we come full circle. Power cords. Can they possibly make a difference? In the case of the AC Master Couplers, the answer is an unequivocal and emphatic Yes! So what do I tell the crew at work when they demand and explanation? This is where it gets sticky. It seems like there are three possible explanations. The first is the "power cord as antenna" theory. That is, the power cords function as an antenna, happily picking up RF and other garbage and feeding it into the 60 Hz --- less so in the case of the Master Couplers. The second theory is the "power cord as filter" idea. In this case, rather than adding garbage to the 60 Hz, the Master Couplers might actually be removing grunge from the line. Third, there is the "power cord as shunt" theory, where the power cord is somehow adsorbing all of the high frequency components caused by the AC/DC rectifications and ringing back through the power transformer. Finally, there is the "power cord as transmission line" theory. In this case, the power cord is designed, or terminated, to add resonance gain to a 60 Hz signal (or exact harmonic), thereby diminishing the relative effect of any other spectral components. Suffice to say, all are theoretically possible but . . . In each case, it's not that simple. I've made numerous measurements and calculations of not just power cords, but speaker cables and interconnects as well. At work, we routinely design, build, and tune cables for data transmission (analog and digital) in hostile environments. All of the above components --- shielding, filtering, shunting, and resonance --- are considered, and it's still a bit of an art. In our cables, however, we have the luxury of not having a ruthless quality control measure --- a listener's ear --- to answer to . If the oscilloscope and spectral analysis say it's right, that's good enough. In audio cables, that's just a starting point, maybe not even that. We've made a bunch of measurements, performed numerous calculations, and constructed several computer models. Editor willing, I'll discuss cable design from this aspect in a future piece. "But for now, the short answer is "I don't know how they work." To summarize, I can't possibly recommend the Synergistic Research A/C Master Couplers more highly. At over $200 for a power cord, they're insanely expensive for what they are. However, for what they do, they represent the biggest bang for the audio buck I have seen. The only things I can recall as being even close in terms of value were the first time I Fluxbusted a cartridge (after many, many hours), and replacing a set of 30-year-old tubes in a Dyna ST-70 with a new set of Sovteks. Both were small investments, but for striking differences. However, in the case of the Fluxbuster or the tubes, the change was to make an audio system sound like a much better audio system. The Master Couplers do something a little different, and to me, far more significant. They make an audio system sound more real. They take a system from one plane to a slightly different one, one that is genuinely closer to the absolute sound. My system is still a long way away from that sound, but with the insertion of the A/C Master Couplers, it has taken a big step in the right direction. 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 13:17
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 15:00
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>>> Known to be audiophiles by our fellow co- workers... <<< I stopped there, sorry - my understanding of physics and electronics doesn't match the audiophile profile. Still, I'm curious to hear whether you are going to try them  ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 16:25
Well, if even his girlfriend Bonnie agrees then I suppose it must be true.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 22:59
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I can see how how shielded cables might help a lot with low end equipment with poorly designed power supplies but on higher end stuff I would think proper power supply design would negate the huge difference this article suggests. Of course I cant say for sure without actually listening myself but I think we can sum this article up in one word. HYPERBOLE Oliverstoned, do ya know if they make the cables for use in the EU or would ya have to use an adaptor? Man if power cables make that big a difference for real I could make a killing rewiring audiophiles listening rooms :) |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 03:16
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All that is said is true, i can prove it at home.
And yes, of course these cables are available in EU plug standard. "Well, if even his girlfriend Bonnie agrees then I suppose it must be true" Exactly! even an un-trained ear can notice the difference from the kitchen. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 03:25
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Why do you think "Shunyata" cables (another brand) are used in the best studios, including Pink floyd studios? They spend 3000€ per power cable, just because it looks nice? 
From Shunyata website: "Shunyata Research’s power distribution and cable systems play active roles within the world’s foremost music, film and recording studios, including those owned by Sony Music and Phillips. The audio-video industry’s preeminent mastering engineers, record producers, reviewers and electronics manufacturers also depend on Shunyata products to enhance and protect the performance of their recording and playback systems. These accomplishments are the result of former NSA scientist Caelin Gabriel’s development of exclusive design processes, patented technologies, and the most thoroughly customized parts and craftsmanship in the trade. Sony Music (Japan) Sony Music (New York) SkyWalker Sound Phillips’ Crest Studios Astoria Studio Look Out Sound Studios Memory Technology Lacquer Channel Mastering Doug Sax and James Guthrie Peter McGrath Rick Rubin Tom Durack Ken Takashi John B Anthony Company AF Associates Sony Music (Japan) Mastering Facility The top executives from Sony Music were exposed to Shunyata Research products during James Guthrie’s re-mastering of Dark Side Of The Moon for SACD at Guthrie’s Das Boot Studio. Mastering engineers Guthrie and Doug Sax endorsed Shunyata Research products to the principle executives from Sony Music, and facilitated the loan of Shunyata products for testing within Sony’s Mastering systems. After the completion of its lengthy testing, a series of Shunyata Research power-system products were purchased for use in Sony Music’s mastering facilities. All music mastered within Sony Music’s Japanese facility is now being mastered using Shunyata Research power-system products. 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SkyWalker Sound is also a complete scoring and recording studio that records renowned recording artists such as Amy Grant, Herbie Hancock, Faith Hill and countless others. Principal recording and scoring engineers Tim McGovern and Clayton Wood evaluated Shunyata Research’s products within their scoring and recording systems, and found them to dramatically reduce noise and buzzing that was obvious prior to the Shunyata application. SkyWalker Sound is now using Shunyata Research products within their scoring stages and playback/testing systems. Click here to read Clayton Wood's comments. Top Phillips’ Crest National Studios Located in Hollywood California, Crest National is one of the largest music and film industry studio chains in the United States. Crest National consists of motion picture film labs, digital restoration services, DVD authoring and design, editing, sub-mastering and media encoding, among a host of other professional services. 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Top Astoria Studio Located in the United Kingdom, Astoria Studio is widely recognized as one of the most respected recording studios in the world. Owned by David Gilmour of Pink Floyd, Astoria has served as recording venue to some of the most recognized recording artists in the music industry. Anyone familiar with the state of the art production values on Dark Side Of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall, Momentary Lapse of Reason, The Division Bell, and David Gilmour in Concert 2002 DVD, can appreciate the meticulous nature with which the Pink Floyd albums are put together. Astoria Studio's principles are renowned for reviewing every aspect of their recording chain continually. It was this perfectionist approach that led Astoria to seek out and implement Shunyata Research’s Hydra power distribution systems, PowerSnakes power cables and Constellation Series signal cables to their state-of-the-art recording equipment. Astoria’s principle engineers actively endorse Shunyata Research products to other studios and mastering engineers and have paved the way for may subsequent Shunyata studio applications. Top Look Out Sound Studios Upon casual inspection, one might wonder whether Look Out Sound Studios was named after its scenic, Montana surroundings or its astounding recording facilities. An overview of Lookout’s principal mastering and playback systems will make the name far less ambiguous. Look Out owner Brett Allen spared no expense in assembling the finest Direct Stream Digital recording systems and playback equipment in the world. Lookout utilizes the state-of-the-art Genex DSD hard drive systems, as well as the Solid State Logic 9048K XL, the top 5.1 analog mixing console in the world. Look Out sports the finest recording, mastering and playback equipment, including multiple pairs of Wilson Audio’s Statement speaker systems, the X2 Alexandrias. Halcro amplification and digital playback systems from Meitner labs complete Look Out’s monitor and playback systems. The name Look Out is obviously intended to serve notice that reference-quality recording and mastering is alive and well in Montana. Lookout’s Bret Allen was referred to Shunyata Research power-systems by the principals of Halcro and Wilson Audio, who use Shunyata products within their own testing and playback systems. Look Out Studios purchased a series of Shunyata Research power-system products based on the performance enhancements they offered within recording and playback systems. Top Memory Technology (Japan) Memory Technology is the largest CD/DVD manufacturer in Japan, with over $100 million annual sales. Memory Technology is part of the largest trading firm in Japan, and also owns and runs music and video production companies. Memory Technology became aware of Shunyata Research products through Japanese Music Industry contact Maiko Nagae. After critical evaluations were performed, Memory Technology ordered Shunyata Research power-system products for use in their top testing and production systems. Top Lacquer Channel Mastering (Canada) Considered Canada’s premier mastering facility, Lacquer Channel works with many of the world’s most renowned recording artists, including U2, Bryan Adams, Holly Cole and many others. These top artists sought out Lacquer Channel because of their reputation as Canada’s most well equipped and professional recording and mastering facility. Lacquer Channel mastering engineer Phil Demetro discovered Shunyata Research products through a local dealer, and discovered that the Hydra and PowerSnake products significantly improved the resolution of their mastering and playback systems -- of which they are now a permanent part. Lacquer Channel actively recommends Shunyata products to their contacts in the mastering and recording industries. Click here to read Phil Demetro's comments. Top Doug Sax and James Guthrie Very little else needs to be written about the stellar reputations of Mastering Engineers Doug Sax and James Guthrie that hasn't already been said. They are simply two of the most experienced and sought after mastering engineers in the mastering and recording industry. Doug Sax's work includes recordings by James Taylor, Pink Floyd, Dire Straits, Alision Kraus, Diana Krall, Linda Ronstadt, Tom Waits, Aaron Neville, Chris Isaak, Ray Charles, Chet Atkins and countless others. James Guthrie's resume is no less impressive, having been credited with work on 6 Pink Floyd albums and dozens of popular recording artists. James and Doug learned of Shunyata Research's products through David Gilmour's Astoria recording studio in the United Kingdom. After listening and recording with Shunyata Research products, both Guthrie and Sax were so impressed that they implemented them into their Sonoma digital re-mastering chain. Shunyata Research products were most recently utilized at Guthrie's Das Boot Studio, for the re-master of Dark Side of the Moon on Sony's SACD format. Click here to read James Guthrie's comments. Top Rick Rubin As a five-time Grammy nominated music producer of recording artists such as Tom Petty, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Johnny Cash, Jay Hawks, Public Enemy and many others, Rick Rubin has earned his reputation as one of the most versatile and gifted producers in the history of the music and recording industry. Rick Rubin encountered Shunyata Research products in many rooms at the CES trade exhibits, and inquired about an evaluation. After extensive testing and comparisons, Rick Rubin adopted Shunyata Research’s products for use in his home listening and test systems. Rick Rubin is one of many outspoken advocates for Shunyata Research products within the studio and recording community. Click here to read Rick Ruben's comments. Top Peter McGrath Peter McGrath is widely recognized one of the most accomplished recording engineers working today, with a resume of recordings and top recoding artists dating back some twenty years. Peter also manages the east coast sales division for premier speaker manufacturer Wilson Audio. Peter McGrath thoroughly tested Shunyata Research’s Hydra power products and found them to significantly enhance the resolution of his playback and recording test system. Peter continues to use Shunyata’s Hydra products in both his home and with his recording work. Top Tom Durack Tom Durack is an fast rising talent in the very competitive recording and mastering field in New York City. Tom has done superlative mixing and mastering work with top US artists such as the B-52’s, and has also worked extensively overseas with top Japanese artists and studios. During his work, Tom encountered Shunyata Research products and found them to enhance the playback resolution and background silence in his recording and mixing work. Tom continues to be an outspoken advocate for the benefits Shunyata Research products bring to mastering, mixing and recording. Top Ken Takashi Ken Takashi, recording engineer and artist for the Japanese Super-group Spanova , had this to say about adding Shunyata products to their recording systems: "The Python is a super power cord of the highest quality overwhelming all the cables I've ever tested (Synergistic Research, PAD, S/A LAB. Camelot Technology, etc.) at every point, such as the width of the sound stage, accuracy of the sound focus, or the energetic and expressive sound it brings out. I use it connecting to AD/DA converter at the recording utilizing Pro Tools, and am planning to install some more PowerSnakes at Macintosh or Mic preamp and others. I usually work at my own studio, but when I happen to do some recordings at other studios, I always bring my Python there. The so-called "Professional Engineers" here have little knowledge about cables, and they use the cable that came with the products for their system and equipment. Well, you can imagine how astonished they were to hear the PowerSnake's sound!" Top John B Anthony Company As one the top professional audio rep firms in the United States, the John B Anthony Company has sought out only the finest products for its testing and playback systems. President Mike Oltz heard about Shunyata Research products from others in pro-audio and requested an evaluation. After their evaluation was complete, the John B Anthony Company purchased an entire system of Shunyata Research products for their reference playback systems. President Mike Oltz commented extensively on the profound impact Shunyata products had in improving the resolution, dynamics and background silence within their system. Top AF Associates AF Associates is a subsidiary of Ascent Media Group, one of the world’s largest Media organizations, providing a range of services to clients in the television, feature film and advertising industries. Much of what is seen on television today passes through an AFA-built facility. Broadcast and cable networks, local stations, Internet streaming providers, and direct-to-home satellite services have all taken advantage of AF Associates 30-plus years of technology leadership. AFA’s President, Tom Canavan, became aware of Shunyata Research products through several peers in the professional industry and sought out an evaluation with Shunyata Research’s power-system products for use within his home studio. After careful evaluation and comparison, Tom Canavan purchased an entire system of Shunyata’s power products, and has been recommending them to professional colleagues in his industry." |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 06:48
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Studios have to use impressive equipment ... after all, they can't tell their customers (among whom there are many audiophiles) that instead of a €3000 power cord one for €5 would also do the trick, particularly considering that the power supplies of the studio equipment reliably filter out all these effects it should be obvious that power cords don't change the sound. After all, the electric current travels several kilometers through badly shielded wires until it arrives at the socket - an ultra-expensive cable used for the last few meters should undo all that? Maybe ... but once the alternating current is converted by the power supply, the capacitors remove any signals that might have been there. They could try to explain, but of course as money's not an issue in this case I would also buy these power cords in order to not turn away potential customers. I admit that if I was the owner of a big recording studio I would also not publicly criticise any other audiophile myths - it could only hurt my reputation, so why take the risk? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 06:54
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Your pseudo theory doesn't stand at all.
Contrary to you all, i had the chance to listen to a Shunyata King Cobra on a big system (better than what studios use as playback equipment) and the effect was a mind blowing upgrade, with only one on the preamp. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 07:14
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From the text up:
"Power cords. They can't possibly make a difference, can they? The answer is Yes. Unequivocally, resoundingly, and oh my, Yes. How big a difference? Remember the difference you heard the first time you replaced your zip coed with real speaker cables? This is bigger. How about the day you cleaned all your contacts and oriented all of your AC plugs? This is bigger, much bigger. To put it in perspective, the difference is akin to replacing an undistinguished MOSFET stereo amp with a pair of absolutely top-flight mono tube amps --- or replacing a midfi direct-drive turntable with a well set up Linn, Sota, or VPI. To say I was unprepared for the difference these power cords made would be a big, big understatement." |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 07:23
He's not saying anything here that could convince me - he's only going on about how big the difference is that *he* is hearing. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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oliverstoned wrote:Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 07:31
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He and thousands of people who tried.
I can't blame you, as you've never heard a good working system and you've no idea of how it "push the walls". I also suspect some jealousy, cause you maybe can't invest in such "toys". Some basic technical elements from the Transparent website: http://transparentcable.com/design/design_technology.html - http://transparentcable.com/design/design_technology.html |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 07:37
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...But i'm not the only audiophile here on PA. I know that Mysticfred recently invest in his first power cables, let's ask him what it does on his system. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 07:49
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^ rest assured, there's no jealousy involved. If anything, I'm glad that I never spent so much for unnecessary equipment. If you think that it's not unnecessary, then by all means go ahead and have fun with it - I'd rather buy a new guitar and amp than such a cable, honestly. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 08:21
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You're talking a priori while i talk in knowledge.
But you would need good hifi elements and interconnect cables before buying any power cable. Good power cables start at 45€. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 08:27
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A former collegue of mine has dedicated a whole site to uncovering myths from the audiophile world, using the laws of electronics and physics as his starting point. It's in dutch unfortunately, but does contain some remarks about power cables. 2 bottom lines there: 1. Polarity of the plugs can be an issue, resulting in a humming noise. If that is the case, insert the plug rotated by 180 degrees. Happens mainly in earthed sockets. 2. Apart from this, only when you have sever external disturbances (resulting in noise on the power line) you need to replace your cord or add some additional electronics between the cable and you equipments transformer. But, if you're happy with these cables, I won't stop you. May the sound be with you. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 09:06
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Ive heard, while you have not...and the studios are not bought by powercables companies. And know that we're are all in extremely polluted environements (with all the waves). Moreover, an unshielded cable is an antenna. The more transparent the system is, the more you hear that. But i let you with your certitudes and your plastic boxes as hifi system. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 09:23
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 09:43
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"Whatever is picked up by a power cord is filtered out by the power supply. Even the best shielded cord cannot prevent any pollution - the pollution has to be filtered, which is the job of the power supply."
No power supply is perfect! |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 09:47
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Have a look here:
http://www.combak.net/X-DCSMReview.htm - http://www.combak.net/X-DCSMReview.htm |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 09:54
Sure - nothing is perfect, neither the power supply nor the cord. But even average power supplies filter out almost everything that might affect the sound quality - for me it just doesn't make sense to shell out €3000 to remove whatever might remain and which doesn't bother me to begin with. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 11:16
| I'm sure it's all about whether one wants to hear a difference or not. Oliver wants to hear a difference, so he does, while Mike doesn't want to hear a difference, and so does not hear any difference. Don't underestimate the power of prejudice. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 12:12
Hmm - I feel like I'm spoken too. I have wood and metal boxes all around, and I pretty much believe that I won't hear a difference if I change cabling - although different cabinets or cones might. Prejudice in both directions, if someone feels good about 3(0(0(0))) euro cables - that's fine. In the end, I'm more interested in good quality sound to enjoy properly played good music, which has more value to me than listening to any music with perfect sound, (whatever that may be). Oliver - enjoy your hobby, like we enjoy ours! One day we'll find out who's right and who's fooling himself, and we might be surprised.  ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 14:03
Very true. But in my case the problem's also that I know a lot about electronics, acoustics etc. ... and this prevents me from taking some of the audiophile theories seriously, including the "magic" power cords. There are (next to) no hard facts, no proof that they actually have an effect on the sound - only some audiophiles who claim that the hear a striking difference. When I compare 16bit digital audio to 24bit digital audio then it's obvious that there could be a remarkable difference, but with a simple power cord with no active circuitry which costs €3000 ... sorry, I'm not buying it. The point is: If there is a really remarkable difference in quality like it is described in the article, most people would recognize it in listening tests ... but they can't. If they could, the companies holding the patents would be conducting these tests all the time ... but they don't. There is a simple way to prove that it works - but they refuse. Go figure.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 15:05
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I don't know about power cords but I do know that incoming power problems can cause havoc with electronics. Power problems can consist of failures, sags, surges, spikes, line noise, frequency variations, switching transients and harmonic distortion.
This is what I use for both my stereo and computer systems:
Powerware 9125 True Online Double Conversion UPS (Uninteruptable Power Supply)
This UPS is essentially a glorified power bar. It takes AC power, converts it to DC, then converts it to AC (double conversion). The power coming out the back of the unit is pure. The connected load always receives clean, sine wave power.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 15:09
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^ ok, but that's just what a good power supply does. Power supplies are not designed to only be able to handle perfect sine wave AC - they are built to handle real live AC.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 22:53
| Firepuck, are ya saying you here a differnce in audio quality when you use an UPS compared to when you don't? |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 03:08
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Power filters (also used in studio, with products such as "La boite noire") proceed exactly from the same idea: provide the purest power to the devices. There are several technologies for power filtering: simple power isolation, (what i use, with 2 to 3 filtering stage for drive/converters (CD) which pollute a lot because of die-cutting power alimentations which re-inject a lot of electric pollution within the system through interconnects. It results in a huge gain on all parameters). Active filtering like the ones evoke up -however UPS products don't work on a musical level and eat the dynamic- which makes a clean wave AC, like said up. You can't imagine how transparent good hifi systems can be, cause you base on your experience with poor "systems". |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 03:09
On one hand, you have a vague buzzing, on another you have a clean and articulate bass line. Placebo effect? |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 03:11
Shunyata Research Hydra8 power conditioner
Michael Fremer wrote about the Shunyata Research Hydra 8 in January 2004 (Vol.27 No.1): Despite the Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista kW's choke-regulated power supplies, and perhaps because of the amount of current these amplifiers pull, their performance was enhanced to an enormous and quite surprising degree by plugging them into Shunyata Research's entirely passive Hydra 8 power-distribution device ($1995). During my first month of auditioning the kWs, they drew power from the original Hydra. When I was ready to check out the new Hydra 8, I unplugged the original Hydra and plugged the kWs directly into my dedicated line's Hubbell hospital-grade receptacles. The difference was not subtle. The kWs' basic sonic performance remained, but the picture lost cohesion, the highs had a touch of grain, and the bass seemed in a slightly different time zone—as if these revealing amps were putting my ears in touch with the quality of juice from Rockland Electric's grid. After letting the kWs warm up for another day and continuing to hear the same sound, I turned them off and plugged them into the new Hydra 8, which, as instructed, I'd broken in using a dehumidifier (though I was told an electric fan would work too). The Hydra 8 was connected to the wall with a Shunyata Research Andromeda vX heavy-duty AC cord. Damn if the system didn't return to its former coherent glory, only more so. There's no space here to go into the technology or theories behind the Hydra 8's operation, but you should give it a try. It's every bit as effective as its supporters say it is, and despite my initial skepticism, I've fallen in line. The Hydra 8 is an amazing product. Cables were important, but for this review, the Shunyata Research Hydra 8 was the real key to musical satisfaction.—Michael Fremer |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 11:09
Totally possible, actually. I'll even go as far as to say it's probable. If I would have invested 3000 € in a power cable, I'd really expect it to improve the sound, and as a result I would probably hear a difference. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 18 2007 at 14:34
No - shameless exaggeration beyond any reality. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 01:55
| Dirty little tadpole! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 03:06
 
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 07:05
yes you're so right, i did find a good improvement on my budget system (snappy treble, rich midrange and tighter bass, more focused imaging and fuller soundstage) after even making a few basic upgrades to the power source and the least expensive (£27-£70) mains cables, it clearly brings out the different characters within components also! the improved sound is different but very easy to get used to.
see this thread -
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32033&PN=3 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32033&PN=3
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