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Topic: Suggestion for Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Suggestion for Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 21:27
With recent changes here at ProgArchives I thought I'd see if the name of
Emerson Lake & Palmer could be changed to Emerson, Lake & Palmer. I've
only noticed that Amazon doesn't use the comma, most other online
databases seem to.

For a lot of the first albums, "Emerson Lake & Palmer" was used, but keep
in mind a lot of the time there were line breaks, so a comma could be
done away with:

   Emerson
   Lake &
   Palmer

However on the cover art of their releases in the last 20 years, almost all
of them use the comma as "Emerson, Lake & Palmer" is all on a single
line.



Replies:
Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 21:29

Quote However on the cover art of their releases in the last 20 years, almost all
of them use the comma as "Emerson, Lake & Palmer" is all on a single
line.

Yep. So?



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 21:52
It reflects the true name of the band, take a look at their official site.

Golden Earring used names like The Golden Earring and Golden Earrings
in the past but Golden Earring is consistently used today and on all
compilations.


Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 22:29
Maybe it's just a typo on this site...?


Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 23:11
hmm, why can't I vote for "who cares?" ?


Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 23:14
And maybe that's the right thread to mention: I'm wondering about the total length if "John Barleycorn must die" by Traffic, it says 35min, though adding the single songs together would result in ~60 min.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 23:18

Are you my grammar teacher that at last accepted prog'?

Other way I honestly don't see the importance of this.

Iván

 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 26 2005 at 23:34
I've has this same discussion elsewhere and many people do care. I'm
pretty sure it's not just a grammitcal error made on behalf of the
administrators of ProgArchives, as early cover art did not use the comma.

If you don't then please don't post comments saying that.


Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 00:06

I'd just like to vote for Emerson Lake & Palmer...on anything... so I'm thinking you just put this question in to make me happy...

However, on this:

On the Trilogy cover it says:

Emerson Lake & Palmer  (no comma)

On the next cover that has the name fully across - Works 1 - it says

Emerson Lake & Palmer  (no comma)

The next is Works 2 - it says EMERSON LAKE & PALMER (no comma)

The next is Love Beach - again  no comma  (and I love posting ths cover) ahhhh

Again.. the Live Album - no comma

The Best of ELP album... again no commas

Then & Now (from 1998 - no comma)

All the official bootleg cds... Red & Blue (2001) ( no commas)

There's only a few that have the comma in.. such as Black Moon, ITHS, and the boxset... thats about it.. So your request doesn't seem to be correct.



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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 01:04

are you serious, who cares

 

Aaron



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 02:43

Your right that most of the commercial releases did not use the comma, but recently it looks that the comma has been used more.







The comma is mostly used on recent compilations and live releases, along with those two popular albums of the 90's . Also see the official the website's http://www.emersonlakepalmer.com/albums.html - discography . You can also see Greg Lake's and Keith Emerson's official sites, both of which use more than the bare HTML standard...



Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 02:55


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 03:28


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 04:04
Again, please don't post if you don't have anything to contribute.

You may not think it matters, but it does affect other databases
peripherally and people's tags.


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 04:44
Well on the spine of the debut it says "ELP - Emerson Lake & Palmer", ergo I suggest they should be listed as ELP! In all honesty I don't care, though.


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 11:06
In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 11:33
Yeah it affects people with digital music libraries or databases, or
cataloguers. Searching for Close to the Edge on Google yields the
ProgArchives entry at number 7 so people will find it. It seems like there
are quite a few prog fans from the 70's here who might think it's
pointless to worry about the correct naming of an artist, but most people
these days manage their entire music libraries on their computers, I keep
http://the-page.info/music/itunes/library.php - all mine on my
hard drive.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 12:37

Quote Yeah it affects people with digital music libraries or databases, or
cataloguers. Searching for Close to the Edge on Google yields the
ProgArchives entry at number 7 so people will find it. It seems like there
are quite a few prog fans from the 70's here who might think it's
pointless to worry about the correct naming of an artist, but most people
these days manage their entire music libraries on their computers, I keep
http://the-page.info/music/itunes/library.php - all mine on my
hard drive.

I also keep mine in my PC, were older than you, not dinosaurs, and I never had problems, with Emerson Lake & Pälmer, Premiata Forneria Marconi, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso or anybody else.

I come here to discuss Progressive Music, not ortographic rules, or which Yes Logo I should use.

Don't be so touchy, peeople must get used to jokes in this site, we try to keep a healthy atmosphere.

Iván



Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 12:41

well i agrees with ice man. if you dounload musics it can read Premiata Forneria marconi or PFM or P.F.M. and the tags not seen as same groups by the pc or player. you have to chamges them wich can be taking much times.Confused

this is rellatred to the progmuisc general tiped questions.



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Posted By: starofsirius
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 12:42
just keep it the same

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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 13:19
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

I also keep mine in my PC, were older than you, not dinosaurs, and I never had problems, with Emerson Lake & Pälmer, Premiata Forneria Marconi, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso or anybody else.

I come here to discuss Progressive Music, not ortographic rules, or which Yes Logo I should use.

Don't be so touchy, peeople must get used to jokes in this site, we try to keep a healthy atmosphere.

Iván



Touchy? I didn't think he was touchy at all, really? Certainly not in the post you quoted, although I haven't read any of the rest all that carefully.


Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 13:31

Personally I think that whether or not the comma was left out of their title had more to do with the art direction of whoever was doing the cover. 

However.. all the actual Manticore released albums...(owned by the band) and in control of the band... were without comma.  All those albums you listed with commas, were on other labels, produced by others... and not in the band's control at all.

So I think "ELP"  refers to themselves as EMERSON LAKE & PALMER

And I think I know a little bit about GL.com, KE.com, CP.com and ELP.com....



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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 13:38

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

 

How do you keep your lap top dry while your out fishing, Oracle? 

 

 



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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 14:08
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

How do you keep your lap top dry while your out fishing, Oracle? 

thank you mr garoin for your kindest words althou i think you should not the private massage give me. many mans on this web want to get frendly with me and i thinking maybe this is not just the musics web forums and other things can happen too.

in greenland laptop not so good in cold and the battrys run out to speedilly. not take laptops to the fishing silly it would get wet or stoled by some wild animal  or damage.



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I see the future.Tomorrow is cancelled.
Thorgeir Vifilsson


Posted By: Rob The Plant
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:15
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

How do you keep your lap top dry while your out fishing, Oracle? 

thank you mr garoin for your kindest words althou i think you should not the private massage give me. many mans on this web want to get frendly with me and i thinking maybe this is not just the musics web forums and other things can happen too.

in greenland laptop not so good in cold and the battrys run out to speedilly. not take laptops to the fishing silly it would get wet or stoled by some wild animal  or damage.

what language you speak in Greenland friend?



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Posted By: Arioch
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:17
Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

How do you keep your lap top dry while your out fishing, Oracle? 

thank you mr garoin for your kindest words althou i think you should not the private massage give me. many mans on this web want to get frendly with me and i thinking maybe this is not just the musics web forums and other things can happen too.

in greenland laptop not so good in cold and the battrys run out to speedilly. not take laptops to the fishing silly it would get wet or stoled by some wild animal  or damage.

what language you speak in Greenland friend?

 

He speaks retard.



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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:25
Originally posted by Arioch Arioch wrote:

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

How do you keep your lap top dry while your out fishing, Oracle? 

thank you mr garoin for your kindest words althou i think you should not the private massage give me. many mans on this web want to get frendly with me and i thinking maybe this is not just the musics web forums and other things can happen too.

in greenland laptop not so good in cold and the battrys run out to speedilly. not take laptops to the fishing silly it would get wet or stoled by some wild animal  or damage.

what language you speak in Greenland friend?

 

He speaks retard.

hahehaAngry

 mr. i speak the danish  little and english but my firsdt langage is the inuktituk of the proud greenlander. you may call it eskimo but that not correct and hurtfuls.



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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:28
Or alternatively I may call it by its correct name, which I'd have expected someone who was actually from Greenland to know...


Posted By: Arioch
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:28
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by Arioch Arioch wrote:

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

How do you keep your lap top dry while your out fishing, Oracle? 

thank you mr garoin for your kindest words althou i think you should not the private massage give me. many mans on this web want to get frendly with me and i thinking maybe this is not just the musics web forums and other things can happen too.

in greenland laptop not so good in cold and the battrys run out to speedilly. not take laptops to the fishing silly it would get wet or stoled by some wild animal  or damage.

what language you speak in Greenland friend?

 

He speaks retard.

hahehaAngry

 mr. i speak the danish  little and english but my firsdt langage is the inuktituk of the proud greenlander. you may call it eskimo but that not correct and hurtfuls.

I apologize. I cannot speak a second language so you have one up on me. I was only having a little fun.

P.S....no men are making sexual advances at you either...so try to relax and enjoy the forums.



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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:34

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Or alternatively I may call it by its correct name, which I'd have expected someone who was actually from Greenland to know...

the oficial names is inuktituk a generalising name for the many many diferent tongues we have in my country. one of the most dificult to study as you can not speak to nearest village the same langage.Big smile



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I see the future.Tomorrow is cancelled.
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Posted By: Rob The Plant
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:34
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by Arioch Arioch wrote:

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

In my country (greenland) we have the group Kod To Grontsager who have same problems. On 1 album it has Kod,To Grontsager. on an other albums it say Kod To & Grontsager or Kod,To, & Grontsager . as i understand this problem is for the mp3 and the tag when you want play on computer or I_pod, sometime all album show in different place and can cause head problem.

How do you keep your lap top dry while your out fishing, Oracle? 

thank you mr garoin for your kindest words althou i think you should not the private massage give me. many mans on this web want to get frendly with me and i thinking maybe this is not just the musics web forums and other things can happen too.

in greenland laptop not so good in cold and the battrys run out to speedilly. not take laptops to the fishing silly it would get wet or stoled by some wild animal  or damage.

what language you speak in Greenland friend?

 

He speaks retard.

hahehaAngry

 mr. i speak the danish  little and english but my firsdt langage is the inuktituk of the proud greenlander. you may call it eskimo but that not correct and hurtfuls.

Don't worry, be happy!



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Collaborators will take your soul.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:35

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Well on the spine of the debut it says "ELP - Emerson Lake & Palmer", ergo I suggest they should be listed as ELP! In all honesty I don't care, though.

Would that be with or without the exclamation mark??

That could really f**k up peoples peripherals. Painful



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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:37
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

the oficial names is inuktituk a generalising name for the many many diferent tongues we have in my country. one of the most dificult to study as you can not speak to nearest village the same langage.Big smile



Inuktituk is a generalising name for several tongues, but only one of them is spoken in Greenland; and Inuktituk also means one of these tongues, which is the Canadian one.


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:41

we speke the Kalaallit and inukituk. inukitut is what we teach at schools.Big smile

 



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I see the future.Tomorrow is cancelled.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:48
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

we speke the Kalaallit and inukituk. inukitut is what we teach at schools.Big smile

 

 

yeah but do you use commas?   Are commas Prog?

 

 

 



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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: January 27 2005 at 15:50
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

we speke the Kalaallit and inukituk. inukitut is what we teach at schools.Big smile

 

 

yeah but do you use commas?   Are commas Prog?

 

silly. commas is that a foods from Greece ?



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I see the future.Tomorrow is cancelled.
Thorgeir Vifilsson



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