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Topic: Kubrick
Posted By: andu
Subject: Kubrick
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 11:59
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This comes as a Western counterpoint to the Tarkovsky poll (yeah I have this issues with opposing and complementary cultures but don't kill me). Kubrick also got a lot of discussing with many thoughtful posts and I'd like to have things clear. I'll get back with my vote after I get to see Paths of Glory and Lolita, the only ones I've missed.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:18
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Without trying to offend any fans of his work,I think Kubrick is a vastly overrated director,most of his films are just terrible.That's just my personal opinion though.
But A Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket are great movies.Out of those two I would pick Clockwork. -------------  |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:23
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Kubrick is a GREAT director. 2001 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:52
well, nobody should take offence about someone else's different choices in taste. i do admitt there are other western directors that i could have used to do the counterpoint poll to Tarkovsky, but these are my reasons:
- most of them are not as widely known these days as Kubrick, think of Pasolini, Truffaut, Bunuel, Visconti, Antonioni, etc.
- others are widely known but have made so many films that the poll would have dilluted (Fellini for example; even i, a hardcore fan, haven't seen sufficient of his film in order to have a definitive opinion) or i simply haven't got to know their work properly (Woody Allen, Scorsese, Coppola, etc).
so, having in mind that he made masterpieces that can stand any trial (i also think his work is overall a work of genius and is not overrated, but that's just imo) and he does fit all the qualities that make a typical Western artist as opposed to a typically Eastern artist like Tarkovsky, i chose Kubrick. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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TheProgtologist wrote:Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 13:38
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I've seen good part of films listed above, and must admit they are good films (except Space Odyssey and Spartacus, which I find to be quite shallow), but Kubrik is nowhere near Tarkovskiy - different league thus not comparable by any means. As to the making of counterpoint - that's what I do not understand at all, as I am not seeing Tarkovskiy as typically eastern artist or pure representative of eastern culture at all - it's actually difficult to find more "international" film drector than Tarkovskiy was.
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Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 13:46
Gee, sure am sorry I blew my 120 bucks on the Kubrick boxset then.  Bah, as for a favorite.... tough call. The only film of his I don't particularly like is Spartacus... but he hated that one too. I'd say it's a three-way tie between A Clockwork Orange, 2001, and Dr. Strangelove for me. Really can't decide. |
Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:19
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2001 is a MASTERPIECE!!!!
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 16:42
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 23:02
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Full Metal Jacket is good.... Dr. Strangelove's parody is so incredible masterful, the actual character dr. strangelove is a piece of genius... Orange Clockwork is such a masterpiece, it almost defies comparison, BUT....
2001 is one of the best movies EVER. It TRANSCENDS movies, cinema art... is one of highest points in creative thinking... it was made in the 60's, and it had a lot of cinematographic effects and discoveries just unheard off... The theme it deals with is just so deep, so impossiblle to actually deal with it in two hours...the way he fuses the appearance of the weapon (the true moment man become man and stop being an ape) with the image of the spaceship... WITH JOHANN's STRAUSS BLAUE DONAU! with that movie Kubrick said: "all the rest are good, I'm KUBRICK". ------------- 
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 23:16
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I'm a huge fan of Mr. Kubrick... I really love most of their movies (I don't like much EWS and Lolita) and that's why is so difficult for me to vote... Anyway... I think Clockwork Orange...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 05:50
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 06:07
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He was an absolute marvel. The only film I didn't like was 'Eyes Wide Shut'. And Sellars is just as good in 'Lolita' as 'Strangelove', just a more subdued perfomance. Finest moment has to be 2001 but 'Paths of Glory' also a stunner.
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 17:22
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 17:51
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 20:32
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Mine is Clockwork Orange!
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Posted By: Time-Machinist
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 20:35
| A Clockwork Orange is my favourite. Anyway, I love almost all his stuff... |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 21:47
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Extreamly hard to choose. Spartacus, 2001: A space Odyssey, Clockwork Orange and The Shining are all amoung my favorite movies. ------------- 
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Posted By: ebag7125
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 00:07
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2001 is the best movie/book. ever.
too bad the sequels aren't good.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 19:07
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2001: A space Odyssey is, along with Mulholland drive and Almoust famous, my favorite fil ever, so I had to go with that one!!! But Clockwork orange is so cool too, saw it yesteray again ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 19:08
Well, Kubrik did not make the sequel! ...I mean, I dont remeber his name in the credits... ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 13:10
Do just that....
I'm probably in the minority here in believing that Kubrick's earlier work tended to be stronger...
1) Paths Of Glory (one of the all time movie greats)
2) The Killing (just about every subsequent heist movie has been inspired by this)
3) Dr Strangelove (Selllar's finest performance??)
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 06:30
See my name and guess my vote Clockwork Orange and Strangelove are quite close, too. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 06:34
Clarke...errr, that means your a Superman fan, right?   ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 08:21
| From the seven films which I have seen, I voted for "Paths of Glory" (interesting to see a 1st world war film + Douglas was a great actor). "Clockwork" is also good, but I watched it too many times when a teenager, and it suffered somekind of inflation due overkilling. Good film though. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 11:49
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I love just about everything Kubrick has touched, but i have to go with 2001 by soooooooooooooooo much. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Asphalt
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 17:05
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Tie between Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket. Two very different movies, both genius, both flawed. Paths Of Glory gets an honorable mention for being so ahead of its time. Shining is also an honorable mention, but more because of Jack Nicholson. 2001 lacks a bit of focus for me, while Clockwork Orange, upon a recent second viewing, is a bit dissapointing. Am I the only one to find it funny that almost all of his big league movies are adaptions? And I mean almost all? [except for the first four I think] |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: February 04 2007 at 15:48
I'm more a Lois Lane fan  |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 01:08
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I've only seen Dr. Strangelove, Spartacus and Full Metal Jacket. All are good but Dr. Strangelove is the best of them ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 05:34
If I remember well you're a great fan of Gilliam's "Brazil"; the sarcasm, parody and serious (but undercover) core must have appealed to your taste in Dr. Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket. You really should try next A Clockwork Orange and 2001 A Space Odyssey, they have all the features to suit your taste, I can bet  . Barry Lyndon also has these features, but they're folded inside a brilliant 18th century story.------------- "PA's own GI Joe!"
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 07:48
I think I'm one of the only people never to have seen Dr Strangelove  ; must remedy this...
2001 - well, I loved it when I first saw it, but I have to say maybe my tastes have changed; the last time I watched it, I found it dated, pretentious & shallow, and found the ending hilariously bad (all hate mail to usual address please  )
The same can't be said of Full Metal Jacket - if there's one film which graphically describes the futility of war and the de-humanising effects upon its participants, it's this one. Fantastic movie from start to finish - in my opinion, Kubrick's real legacy. ------------- 
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Posted By: dralan
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 12:39
| Clockwork Orange is one of my top 5 movies of all time. I can still watch it and never tire of seeing it over again. |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 00:51
Exactly. I really should see these other Kubrick films ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:17
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You know how you know you are studying something good? When they give you Kubrick movies as homework... ah, I looooove homework
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Posted By: Gamemako
Date Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:48
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I read Lolita and didn't enjoy it. Kubrick's movie rendition wasn't too hot either. He bent to the censors who had the last laugh. He also used a few poor directing cliches, such as introducing Quilty in the shadows (which I couldn't help but laugh at). Overall, it was certainly Kubrick's worst movie. Adrian Lyne made his own version of Lolita in 1997. It's worse. In the foreword to the novel, Nabokov mocks a researcher/reviewer of his invention who refers to Lolita (the novel) as a "cautionary tale". Andrian Lyne apparently missed this point, took it all way too seriously, and absolutely butchered the entire thing. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 13:17
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Great director!
1 - The Shining 2 - 2001 3 - Clockwork Orange 4 - Dr Strangelove 5 - Full Metal Jacket ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 13:25
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My top 5
The only ones I cant stand are Barry Lyndon (Kubrick worried too much about the realism of the photography rather than in the main theme) and Lolita which I find boring and bellow Kubrick's league. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 13:25
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Barry Lyndon is one of the most complete portraits of a man in the history of film-making. Its soundtrack is also pure pleasure. ------------- 
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Posted By: Nao/Gilles
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 17:43
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One of my all-time favorite directors...
1. A clockwork orange (completely blew me away from A to Z.) 2. Dr. Strangelove (how weirder and funnier can you get?) 3. Barry Lyndon (best. art direction. ever.) 4. Lolita 5. 2001 ------------- http://fox.cyna.fr/"> 
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 19:52
| I was very impressed by the Killing. Especially since it tends to be overlooked. At least in my circle of people. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:30
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The Shining is my favorite movie of all time, but I honestly think that Barry Lyndon is his "best" film.
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Posted By: DarioIndjic
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 22:39
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My favorite is Clockwork Orange but Barry Lyndon stands as one of most beautiful movies i ever seen and surely rank in my top 10 all time.Kubrick made some more masterpieces but i wont name them... ------------- Ars longa , vita brevis |