Who is the more skilled bassist?
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Topic: Who is the more skilled bassist?
Posted By: Sasquamo
Subject: Who is the more skilled bassist?
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 19:13
| Please base this purely on technical skill. |
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Posted By: Progressive??
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 20:29
| I cannot vote, i don't know who victor wooten is. maybe if you would give me some information, or tell me if you can hear some of his material online, i'd be thankful |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 20:42
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I think they are both amazing bassists, and I have one of Victor Wooten's solo albums, which I don't care for at all, though he is a better technical player than Squire. Victor is MUCH more skilled at different techniques ranging from slapping to tapping to everything else. I'm suprised to see 2 voted out of 4 (not including myself) going to Chris. He's a much better bass player in my opinion, but is less technical the Victor. Remeber this is only a TECHNICAL poll, not your favorite. Progressive??- Wooten is a very skilled jazz and funk player- http://www.victorwooten.com/ here's also a very good video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF48Knedyp8&mode=related&search= ------------- 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 20:47
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Wooten is by far a better technical player than Squire though I like Squires playing better. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 20:48
| Wooten hands down, no contest. |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 20:54
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Wooten by a long shot. Mind you, this is not a "who is the best bass player" it's a "who is the most skilled" ------------- 
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Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 22:35
For what I've heard so far, Wooten absolutely gets my vote  ------------- 
"After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't" |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 00:04
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Wooten owns everyone on the bass. The end. ------------- 
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Posted By: echocharlie
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 00:22
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^ NOT!!
Go LISTEN to Alain Caron and report back please. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 02:30
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I haven't even looked at the question, and the answer is Jeffrey. If he's up there, he gets my vote. If he's not...he still gets me vote. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 02:45
| Geddy Lee |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 02:55
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richardh wrote:Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 04:20
| Never heard of victor wooten. How good can he be if I've never herad of him in my life |
Posted By: shanocles
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 04:27
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victor is by far more skilled technically, but am not a fan at all. i like chris squire much, much more. ------------- if left is wrong i don't wanna be right... 
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Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:26
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I've only heard very little of Victor Wooten's stuff, but I feel that he would be more than able to replicate Chris Squire's work and more ------------- 
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Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 05:32
I agree! -------------
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 08:03
? Maybe you haven't heard of a lot of great bassists. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Eat_Paris
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 08:52
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from technical point of view off course its victor wooten... ------------- "love prog .. simply because its beautiful" .. and lindsay lohan =P~ |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 09:14
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Technically?
Wooten of course!!!!! -------------  |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 09:15
He is one of the premier bassists in the jazz rock/fusion world.His body of work alone is mind-blowing. ------------- |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 09:30
| Wooten wins this easily. His skills are utterly amazing. |
Posted By: echocharlie
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 11:31
| Victor Wooten is all well and good. However, I'd like to know what his fans think of ALAIN CARON. Furthermore, for any Wooten fans who are somehow unfamiliar with Alain: please do yourself a favor and check him out thoroughly. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 12:36
Squire is good.
Wooten is a MONSTER -- phenomenally good!
VW is easily the best, jaw-droppingly great bassist I've ever seen live!  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 12:37
 Er, that's a job for his doctor -- or his wife!  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Dennis
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:02
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Sorry, none of the above, although Wooten certainly makes Squire a bore. Jannick Top gets my vote. The bass playing on Magma's "De Futura" has blown me away like no other bassist has. It is technically incredible, besides being bombastic!
------------- "Day dawns dark, it now numbers infinity" |
Posted By: echocharlie
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:05
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Er, that's a job for his doctor -- or his wife!
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Posted By: proghairfunk
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:13
| The most important part of being an impressive bass player is knowing your place in a band. This doesn't always mean playing crazy things, more so catchy riffs that get stuck in your head. So my vote goes to Chris Squire. See Long Distance Runaround for proof. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:31
| I'll take the chance to recommend the Belgian Jazz band Aka Moon (listen on this site actually). Their bassist is very talented aswell (not to mention their drummer, he's insanely good). |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:35
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OK...maybe Wooten is more technical (don't really know his work, but do know his reputation).....HOWEVER, is technical skill really the most important thing when it comes to music? Sure, I'd like a high enough level to be able to play some great, and interesting music, but when technique overrides musicality, I lose interest. When I was younger (as a music major in college 20 years ago), I was more impressed by pure technical ability than I am now....These days its more like "OK...thats cool, but does it MOVE me, musically".....I may get flamed for quoting Gene Simmons here, but I think he had a point when he said something like watching a guitarist that is all technique is as about as entertaining as watching a typist type! I appreciate the ability that a technical player may have, but if the music doesn't touch my soul, then I just don't get into it..... ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:28
| This poll is not about discussing wheter technique is the most important thing in music or not. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:53
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I'm not a fan of Wooten as I havnt heard much but the very little that I have heard marks him out as an unbalivably skilled performer. Whether he's a beter player isnt the point here.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:57
Goodness gracious! Can you please give some examples? I though I knew about jazz rock, but I too have never heard of Wooten!  (It makes me cry until I'm hootin'! Can't you see I'll need comfootin'?)
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:58
Just making sure it sinks in.
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 16:54
| i prefer the music of squire .but the styles are different,there are many skilled bassist in jazz and jazzfusion,like stanley clarke ,Marcus Miller,ron carter,jeff berlin,jaco pastorius(rip),eddie gomez etc etc.... |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 18:04
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Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 19:09
I know some of Wooten work, and he's awesome...but I'm not of fan of his style.
Alain Caron is the man. Along with Pastorius, he's the most amazing bass player ever IMO. I have some of his solo and on albums with Uzeb. Mindblowing !
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Posted By: AcostaFulano
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 19:55
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MMmmm So... Altough I prefer Chris' compositions rather than wooten's, I think technically speaking there's no thing he could play that Victor Could not. On the other hand, I can't imagine Squier being able to play the Classical Thump, for example. So my vote, based on technique, goes to wooten |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 20:36
| What era is this wooten guy? I thought I would have heard of him if he was 70s fusion. I'm assuming he's 80s or 90s because alot of people in here are not a fan of his music and you wouldn't expect that about 70s fusion from a prog fan. The best bass player is a combination of most talented and best bass lines and best improvisation and song writing and who contributes to the most interesting music. I've never heard Wooten, but talent doesn't mean much if someone doesn't play exciting and interesting music. So judging by the comments it sounds like Squire is the better bass player. |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 20:43
THIS IS NOT POLL ON WHO IS BETTER!!!! It's a poll on who is more technically skilled. It doesn't matter how good Squire's songwriting is; Wooten is far more technically advanced. You should also know that some of the best players out there you have probably never heard. -------------
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Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 21:14
OK, you're assuming this one right. He's the bass player of Bèla Fleck and the Flecktones, they started circa the late 80's and continue touring and making music. They're not considered prog, but I think the concept of that band is quite progressive.
Victor Wooten released an album where all the tracks are just one track of bass (without bass overdubs) with some vocals; I'd call that interesting; some may find it jaw-droping, some may find it boring. The album is called A Show Of Hands.
 So you make a musical judgement based on comments rather than listening to the music itself?I'm not trying to convert you to Wooten, that's your choice; I just invite you to listen to the music before making a "judgement":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBK1fyYN6SE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBK1fyYN6SE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9a4ThBNacY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9a4ThBNacY -------------
"After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't" |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 21:41
I checked the first link. I didn't like the way he plays. He pretty much taps his bass, which is only half the work. He sounded a bit sketchy in parts too
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 11:44
| Squire, by far. |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 17:10
Sarcasm, I hope? |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 17:20
Come on, how can you compare a guy whose music is not about technical skill (Squire) with someone whose technical skill is more palpable like that of Wooten's.... I personally believe that Squire is an effective bass player, but comparing him technically with a jazz fusion monster is a massacre... you could probably compare Stanley Clark with Wooten, being both of Jazz-fusion, ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 17:28
| Both clips are very good, but he's just tapping the strings. I wanna see some standard bass playing techniques to really judge him. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 17:38
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I know Wooten from his work in the flecktones with Béla Fleck. But I don't care much for bass in these records. The only musical labels where bass gets my attention are funk and metal (metallica's Cliff Burton). ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 19:28
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The whole purpose of this poll was to test the bias of the voting community on deciding the skill of a musician. There was a right answer to this poll, and it was Wooten. Now you can say, "well that's just your opinion," but it's really a fact that Wooten has more skill than Squire and a million other bassists. You simply cannot debate it. I'm trying to show that when people decide skill, they either base it on their favorite player, who's more influential, or even the one's they actually know. I don't care if you prefer Squire's style better, this poll is about skill, and people can't seem to get that through their heads. It's true that people that don't play a certain instrument may be unable to judge skill, but in this case, if you've seen or heard Wooten play, you don't need to know anything about bass to know he's superior. Anyway, so far 51 answers have been submitted (including my own). Only 30 of them were the correct answer. Therefore, the voter community scored a 59%, which is an F. Results were a little better than what I expected. |
Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 19:36
Maybe I can help here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfrpVv4ljsw&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfrpVv4ljsw&mode=related&search=
Here he's jamming a groove with Carter Beuford; although he uses tapping most of the time he's using more standard techinques.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qugrKBv-WN8&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qugrKBv-WN8&mode=related&search=
This is a wilder slapping extravaganza; a duel with his brother Roy Wooten on guitar. Again, some tapping, but most of the time is slapping. -------------
"After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't" |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 19:58
Oh well in that case I see your point good thinking------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: echocharlie
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 20:38
| The notions of "superiority" as related to bass playing "skill" are misguided methinks. What about Alain Caron?? There seems to be a curious lack of proper awareness here of this other "superior" bassist >> |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 21:48
Isn't he from UZEB?
 If so, I agree that he's terrific! ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 22:45
| I'm not sure why this Wooten guy has been chosen ahead of 100s of bass players over 35 years. I saw 4 clips of him and I don't see how he considered better than many many bass players over time. Jaco is easily better. This Wooten guy uses different techniques, but I'm sure many many players could do the same thing he does with his thumb. It's a bit like playing a 6 string guitar along the neck. But this tapping and thumb slapping is alot easier than the usual techniques of plucking with your fingers. I don't like the sound of slapping anyway, gets annoying easily. I think Squire is more more talented bass player. I don't think Wooten could come up with bass lines like No opportunity necessary, No experience needed back in 1969 at the age of 19 or whatever Squire was. I think Wooten would be lost trying to improvise Squires bass lines in a Yes concert 35 years ago. This slapping sounds pretty silly and tapping is cheating ;). I could find many bass players who I think are more talented. And remember talent means nothing if you can't write exciting music to form a great song |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 22:55
Let's see, Wooten was just as innovative as Squire. He made new techniques to create new basslines. Also, Wooten was wowing people long before the age of 19. If you actually took the time to dive into his work, you'd realize he is an amazing player all around. He doesn't just tap. This poll is just between Squire and Wooten. I think you have a case of "Squire came first, therefore he must be better" syndrome. 4 clps is no where near enough to experience an artist. You don't seem to understand that this is a "most skilled poll." -------------
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 22:57
So what you're saying is that Chris Squire could match everything Wooten plays, and there are some things Squire does that Wooten couldn't do? Yeah right, Wooten could easily play anything Squire has played first try probably, and Squire couldn't do half of what Wooten can do. And tell me, how do you improvise someone else's basslines? If you improvise just like someone else everyone should hate you. You do realize that most everything of what you see Wooten playing is improvised, right? You seriously think Squire could play what he does right on the spot? |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 23:15
| Alot of that fast thumb slapping sounded a bit embarrassing to me. It's not about how fast you can play. Not many people in here are big fans of his music, so his talent doesn't seem to count for much. He could copy some great Squire bass lines, but those bass lines are written already. The writing is the hardest part which is a rare talent. Could he invent exciting music? |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 01 2006 at 23:36
| Geez, whether people here like his music is totally irrelevant. Heck, I don't really like his music much at all. Of course that doesn't keep me from admitting he's amazing. Like I said previously, this poll was made to expose people's bias towards their favorite artists. |
Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 00:23
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This Poll is ridiculous, of course Wooten ------------- 
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 01:23
I am not amazed at those 4 clips. You telling me this guy is better than many great jazz and prog bass players who played through the 70s? These are guys with 30-40 years experience and people are saying this Wooten guy is better than all of them? I don't think so. He may be in the top 100 most talented bass players, who knows
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 03:47
Sigh...
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 06:24
ok I choose chris squire then.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 07:12
Scott Henderson, Steve Smith, Bela Fleck, Greg Howe, Dennis Chambers and many others would most likely disagree. And Wooten has been doing steady gigs since the age of ten at least (he's 42 now). |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 02 2006 at 10:48
Where did I say he was the best bassist ever? There are probably bassists out there better them him, but in this poll I said he's better than Chris Squire, and I am right. And why do you talk about writing bass lines. THAT'S TOTALLY BEYOND THE POINT. When I say "technical" skill, I mean playing skill, not composing skill. That's pretty clear. Your stubbornness to admit that there are actually more talented players than one of your prog heroes is exactly the kind of stuff I was trying to root out with this poll. |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: December 04 2006 at 20:30
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Is this some kind of joke?
Squire is to Wooten as a Vauxhall is to a Ferrari. Comparisin is futile! ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: December 06 2006 at 14:36
Does skill nescessarily equate to talent?
Let's say that there is a typist who can type 150-170 WPM (world record speed), but could not author a book, yet there is great author who hunts & pecks for 40-60 WPM...the 150 WPM typist may have more skill, but the 40 WPM author might have more talent.....
Who's work would you rather READ?
I will grant that Wooten may be more SKILLED (to answer the original question), but that doesn't nescessarily mean he has more TALENT....
Wooten may be highly skilled, but I'll keep listening to Squire's talent..... ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 06 2006 at 14:54
| Anyone who can't admit that Wooten is more technically skilled than Squire knows nothing about bassplaying. Period. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: December 06 2006 at 15:07
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Funny this should be here, I saw Victor Wooten in concert this past monday (in Montreal), and technically, that guy has to be the most skilled bass player alive, no one even comes close to doing what he does. Those who voted Chris Squire have absolutely no idea what bass playing is about and/or have never even heard or seen Victor Wooten. I mean, come on ! There is not even a contest here !
Victor Wooten is the best living bass player, and that's it. Wether you like the style of music he plays or not is another matter. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: December 06 2006 at 15:48
I do admit that Wooten is more skilled...I think Squire is more talented....there IS a difference..... ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 06 2006 at 20:49
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no there isn't... skill needs talent to ignite and develop... thus wooten is as talented or more talented than squire, again, in bass playing (regardless of whether you like wooten's style or not). Squire might be a genius as composer and has a very good improvisation ear, but there's no comparison technically. ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: December 06 2006 at 21:23
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TO PHILEAS AND MELOMANIAC:
With you both 100%. As I said in my motor car analogy - comparisin is futile I've also had the pleasure of seeing VW live.[I'm still trying to pick my jaw up from the floor]. Another good illustration of the spectrum of his playing is on Bela Fleck's 'Live at the Quick' DVD. It's available for everyone to see if they have the inclination. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 10:39
| I play bass and Squire is perfection personified! Don't be fooled by slapping ect, it's easy to do, |
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 10:41
| CHRISTOPHER SQUIRE |
Posted By: Tales
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 10:46
| SQUIRE |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 13:15
Tapping might be easy, but Wooten does so much more. Have you tried to play any of Wooten's compositions? They're a lot more difficult than Squire's. |
Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 13:37
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The results of this poll are making me lose faith in humanity. Wooten by a country mile. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 13:54
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The 'Amazing' bassman Mr Chris Squire Wootton is all flash with no substance and no control. Give Squire a free reign and he would beat Wootton hands down!
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Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 14:05
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Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 14:31
He might beat Wootton anytime (whoever he is), but I don't think he'd beat Wooten   -------------
"After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't" |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 15:03
I suspect that this poll has largely degenerated into mere pigheadedness, and childish attempts to wind up Wooten's most vocal advocates.
Surely it has served its purpose?
I conclude that a small majority will vote logically on such matters. No matter what CDs are in their collections, they will answer honestly based upon the evidence.
A significant minority, however, will NOT use logic, or truly consider the evidence, but will vote based upon pre-conceived notions, and what they like better (and what they like must be the "best").
We see this all of the time here, in frequent, clearly subjective observations, nonetheless presented as "fact," like "X is the best," "Y is the worst," "Z is better," etc.
It perhaps boils down to maturity vs immaturity, and who'd be fit -- or not -- to serve on a jury, or engage in a true debate where one's initial position could well change in the face of the other's more convincing arguments.There's lots of the fanboy mentality here (take a look at many of the reviews, and many of the "it's black or it's white -- and it's clearly black" polls people post) but we already knew that, didn't we?
 Such are humans, silly, fallible creatures that we are....
I'm sure plenty of people here drive huge gas-guzzling monstrosities, too, despite all of the evidence that this is (unnecessarily) bad for our planet, and even their wallets.
In the face of all of the reputable, damning evidence, they CHOOSE not to believe, because belief would morally necessitate change, and perhaps some minor sacrifice in pride, or ease of thinking in the same comfortable, self-deluding and selfish way.
There are none so blind, as they that will not see.....
This is a large part of the human condition -- look at the sorry state of our planet, and international (& even interpersonal) relations.
 How's THAT for reading a lot into a harmless little poll? ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 15:06
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Peter for your colorful and jolly responses sometimes you do provide moments of real insight. I'm so proud of you pops. Haha
------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 15:11
Thanks, Oh Gee!
 It's not ALL fun & games at Chez Rideout.Mostly -- but not all! ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Rice and Beans
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 15:19
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its disappointing that this is purely based on techincal ability, because in my completely biased opinion it would be chris squire because Yes is one of the greatest bands in history, however, ive heard enough Victor Wooten to know that his technique is incredible, the things he can do with a bass are beyond that of wich one could fathom ------------- 
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 15:53
| WOOTEN IS SKILLED BUT HIS MUSIC IS SKIMMED. |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 07 2006 at 20:29
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facts are not subjective matters. I see Ian Anderson as a talented MUSICIAN, and I praise him for his multi-instrumentalism and compositions. However, unlike what many people like to believe, he's just average in every instrument he plays, as there are many who could simply outplay him in flute and guitar (and sax); despite all that I prefer to listen to JT's music rather than, say, many brazilian flutists or some flamenco guitarists(I love flamenco music, so it's high praise). The question is regarding purely technique, so let's hang our fanboy hats for a second and try to think "progressively" and objectively. ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: East of Lyra
Date Posted: December 08 2006 at 09:00
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I prefer Squire.
But it would be ridiculous to say that he's more skilled than Wooten.
So Wooten it is.
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 20:17
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The results of the poll mean a.) A significant number of people in progarchives know absolutely nothing about music. b.) A significant number of people in progarchives are hopelessly biased. Probably b. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 20:30
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I would replace music in a. with bass playing, as that is what the poll
is about. I'd also like to combine the two above points rather than
have them separate. We get point c.) A significant number of people in
Prog Archives know absolutely nothing about bass playing and are
hopelessly biased. Still, Wooten is winning the poll, which must mean that there are a significant number of people who do know a thing or two about bass playing and are not hopelessly biased. |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 21:57
| From what I've seen I think there are many better bass players than Wooten. I've seen a few bits of footage of him and I'm not convinced he's any better than many bass players. I want some real footage of him actual plucking the bass and improvising some amazing complex bass lines. All I've seen is him slapping and tapping his bass. I think most bass players would not have a problem playing that kind of stuff |
Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 22:38
Hi again, Smithers!
I'm really curious, and with all respect I politely ask you: Do you play the bass guitar?
I mean, I'm not asking you in any sarcastic or offensive tone, I really want to know. I play the bass (as you may have already guessed given my avatar and signature), and in my own experience, figuring out Wooten basslines has demanded me more "skill" than Squire's. I love both styles, btw. Both Wooten and Squire have 'wow-ed' me! I'm not talking about other bassists just to keep it down to the two asked in the original poll question.
Peace!
EDIT: Of course, any bassists you consider worth checking out are more than welcome... The more the merrier! -------------
"After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't" |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 01:30
Yeah I play bass. I'm not a fan of slapping at all. I don't like tapping either because it's alot simpler to do and you are relying too much on the amp to give you the sound. I like to put some traditional effort into my playing
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Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 08:03
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Chris Squire!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you gave Squire a free reign in a jazz fuzion band he could do all the stuff that Wooten does and much more. It's far more difficult for a musician to play in a far more controlled envireonment. As some one has already said, don't be fooled by all the trickery of picking and slapping, it's not difficult.
Trust me, Squire is much better than Wooten |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 08:42
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 13:24
Are you for real? Smithers, who's to say Wooten can't play traditionally? He can, and much better than Squire. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 13:29
| I wish I could have the skill Wooten possesses and the composing Chris Squire has. |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 16:48
| Neither Squire or Wooten are the best anyway. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 16:52
This is about these two specific bassists. Please stay on topic. |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 19:04
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May I respectfully suggest to those bass players [and I am one] who say that slapping and 'popping '[popping I believe is recognised as beginning with Robert 'Pops' Popwell] in the style of VW is not that difficult to do, either suffer from a lack of technique to do it properly ,are not being honest with themselves about their own abilities [or lack thereof] or simply do not have the capacity to undestand the extent of VW's prowess.
Clearly he is capable of all styles and has demonstrated this both on recordings and live. The Flecktones are one of the most improvisational bands around so I just don't understand where half these comments are coming from. I simply couldn't imagine that people who visit this site are being dishonest ,or at best, would let their blind admiration of a player/composer, a band and an era get in the way of objective opinion. Never let it be said! Some of them profess to be musicians furtermore altho. I certainly do understand the difference between playing bass and being a musician who plays bass and therein lies the key to all this IMO. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 20:36
| I never slap my bass. Sounds crap to my ears |
Posted By: The Green Tank
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 21:56
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Chris Squire overall has the better skill. ------------- 
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Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 22:13
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TO GREENTANK:
Spoken like a true Rickenbacker enthusiast. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 11 2006 at 04:15
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