Is it just me or does Les Holroyd...
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Topic: Is it just me or does Les Holroyd...
Posted By: Zac M
Subject: Is it just me or does Les Holroyd...
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 23:26
...sound like Peter Cetera, particularly on the later BJH albums. Some songs on Face to Face even remind of me some 80's Chicago songs, partly because of Holroyd's vocal style!
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 01:33
He certainly sings in a high register, but so do lots of others. I can't really see any other link to Chicago but my knowledge of them is limited.
Oh, and who's Peter Cetera?
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 03:36
Joolz wrote:
Oh, and who's Peter Cetera?
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CHICAGO's (now former) lead singer, who sang all those classic cheezefest
anthems like "if you leave me now", "you're the inspiration" et cetera
i see CHICAGO in a way sharing it's fate with REO speedwagon – both bands
started out as promising and highly individual hard rockin' and hard workin'
bands (CHICAGO with an almost big band feel due to its brass section) that
later succumbed to the mighty dollar and recorded some awful tunes for
"the demography", so to speak.
and, before everybody starts mouthing off, both bands have NO place in
progarchives.com! anyone care to disagree?
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Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 07:26
I think he was being sarcastic, dude. But at least other people know now.
And, Zac M. I don't really see the comparison. Sorry, dude.
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Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 09:15
I don't quite hear it, although they do both have high voices, and both have turned into big time cheezemeisters in their old age. Holroyd now claims that Toto is one of his prime musical influences...er, Les, your career began 10 years before theirs!
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 23:33
Well, I only really hear it on "Face to Face" (although there are hints elsewhere IMO). His songs on that album are mostly power pop balladry things, and every time I listen to it I am reminded of Cetera's vocals, mainly around Chicago 16-17. Maybe it is just me after all...
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 08:27
Oh definitely I agree. This was the direction Les Holroyd seemingly wanted BJH to go in, as more or less every song he did in this era sounds like pure sop. He had some excellent moments- 'Echoes and Shadows', 'Victims Of Circumstance' and 'Kiev', but almost unanimously the weakest songs on the BJH albums for me are Holroyd's. I actually find it quite hard to accept it's the same man singing on the glorious 70s albums- his voice changed a lot in the 80s to a Bee Gees/Peter Cetera like sound.
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 10:40
I see what you're saying. Some of that is down to production - he has increasingly swamped his voice with reverb etc. Also, his voice hasn't aged well, as demonstrated on his 2003 live album - his diction/phrasing or whatever is very bad in places.
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: November 03 2006 at 11:57
Well, as Les is a confessed Fan of Chicago there's surely the influence to be heard, not only in the singing ( the "I can no longer see"-part in "I've got a Feeling" ows a lot to a Chicago-song, too ! ), but i don't think of Peter Cetera when I hear Les SINGING. By the way, I'd like to hear him SINGING again...
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: December 19 2006 at 13:12
As I wrote in the other BJH-topic ( by Andrea Cortese ): Les is playing "The World goes on" at his december shows... so if you want a reason to go there... this is definately one !
Rupert
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