Kitaro
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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Kitaro
Posted By: Pnoom!
Subject: Kitaro
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 16:46
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Please explain if you say yes.
I won't vote, but I would say yes as, he really reminds me at times of Pink Floyd (musically of course). Your insight is appreciated.
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 17:08
| It would be nice if the two people who said yes would explain why... |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 17:08
| And the person who said no, too. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 17:09
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Isn't he New Age? If we put Kitaro, what's next? David Arkenstone and Yanni?
E iTunes: "Blind Curve" from Marillion's Misplaced Childhood ------------- 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 17:19
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No, but let me explain:
I see him as 'New Age," and new age music is not here (previous votes & threads indicated the majority don't want it here, either).
Still, to ME, Kitaro and various other "new age" is much more (or at least as much) akin to prog than some of the other supposed "prog" & "related" stuff I hear here.
(Not to mention any one genre -- but I think the average prog fan of my generation is much more likely to enjoy Kitaro, or Vollenweider, that say ____m ______r or ____h ____l.)
No offense implied to those who like them!
Thus, until new age as a whole is deemed "prog" or "related," Kitaro does not "belong." ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Progmanus
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 18:04
I think Kitaro could and would fit into a combination of categories. Go with me here; an unusual blend of progressive electronic, psychedelic/space, experimental and symphonic. You can go to virtually any music store and find Kitaro in the "New Age" section, but look a little further in the rack and you just might find Tangerine Dream and Vangelis. Tell me what y'all think.  ------------- Master of Images, Songs Cast the Light on You... |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 18:05
Actually Peter there is some 'New Age' here already in the form of some Vangelis,Mike Oldfield and Tangerine Dream albums.There's also Eddie Jobsons 'Theme Of Secrets'.The horse has already bolted!
That said I voted 'No' as I think Kitaro is just very dull and has no progressive ideas whatsover.I think the likes of Stephen Caudel and Mark Isham should be considered for inclusion before him.Even Clair Hammill maybe.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 18:09
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Kitaro sounds very boring and repetitive to me, I often fall asleep when listening to his music, however I voted "Yes" as this site bears clear inclusive tendencies, and so many non-prog bands are already here, that it makes no point whatsoever to argue against inclusion of another one - not a bad artist at all.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 18:18
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This belongs in Suggest Bands/Artists.Not prog polls. -------------  |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 02:18
| Prog related? |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 02:23
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ........ ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 02:43
New Age Related IMO
Iván ------------- 
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Eetu Pellonpää wrote:Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 03:38
| i think his 70s works (and perhaps early 80s) would fall under the prog electronic category.....and do remember he was a member of Jap psych-space rock band Far East Family Band......... |
Posted By: ryba
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 03:43
silk way is very nice music reminding me pink floyd indeed, agree with you
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 06:06
No such genre here.
Do you propose that New Age <> Prog in any circumstances? Even prog related? F.ex. JADE WARRIOR has done new age oriented recordings like "Breathing The Storm".
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 09:01
 No Eetu, this is my attempt of sense of humour:
Iván -------------
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 14:11
some rather mixed opinions here, i will investigate the group further. if anyone is a fan of Kitaro and can offer any reasonable arguments for or against their suggested inclusion your views will of course be appreciated!
because of his involvement with "Far East Family Band" he could have a case, though his solo albums could be a different kettle of sushi !
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 14:18
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Bored/proto sleepy related. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 14:34
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I have seen Kitaro listed in other Prog sites, maybe each Prog site has various views on Prog I don't know?? Kitaro has contributed with the Far East Family Band, but unsure of his sure works. I haven't heard his solo stuff!! ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 14:56
It is good if your eyes are closed and your mind is switched to rest mode. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 15:30
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I think yes, to the Progressive electronic section.
Unlike many other musicians working with electronics his music is heartfelt and, as far as I can tell, very Japanese in nature. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 15:49
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I say no. Kitaro is a very eloquent artist, very minimal and very concentric around every edge. his main characteristic is ambient, fixated upon the electronique technique (though there is no real resemblance of classic maneuvers and accurate such styled frames) and some new age. his music is the tranquil speech, monologue somehow, abundently serene. with the word of ambient dominating completely, I don't believe he fit entirely the spectre of electronic and of any modality as such. let's don't mix ideas with Brian Eno, who has strong tangents with the electronic mode. Kitaro is ambient tranquillizers, made upon a form of chamber ambience and of background. moreover, Kitaro is no such thing as a progressive music composer, alluder (sp?), or with strong intentions. his addition in PE would be a meer surface viewpoint, his addition in prog would find many pointless attributes. perhaps tradition. perhaps the spirit of doing a constant application. but nothing more. my vote is towards no. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 15:50
 to everything said.-------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 18:06
Rick Wakeman released:
Few artists dream on releasing this number of first class releases, some artoists are included because they released a partially Prog album, we're talking about 10 excellent albums and at least 20 Live ones plus several DVD's and his work in Yes. Kitaro only released boring music for technocrat Yuppies who liked POP but wanted to look intelligent and Prog was too much for them, who's next, Yanni?
Kitaro has not where to start with Rick Wakeman, mnot a single trascendental album in all his life.
Iván
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 22:12
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He's a new age musician, and while some of his music verges on PE, I still say no.
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 03:03
So also to what I said!
 Well, "Boring" is quite subjective characterization. I'm not a fan of KITARO, but I don't loathe him. I think he's quite similar artists as JARRE, prog related being quite good place for both.
As you use RICK WAKEMAN for comparing, for me his music is quite boring too. (
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:11
functionally, yes. but he did released about 20 years of boring, plastic, occassionally, just occasionally succesful New Age/Disco/Ambient stuff.
I'm not implying anything, regarding Wakeman. just your phrase "New Age isn't prog" is very debatable. and Wakeman is a notorious name, coming in mind, regarding the New Age brand, no? -------------
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:12
well no, mainly to what Melgar said.
 I've argued why prog related isn't proper either; Jarre as Jarre, but Kitaro has no connection with prog. we can't have them all! (or can we......?  )-------------
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:15
Well, some people here seem to think he has realtions with prog.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:18
mainly, I see opinions regarding the touch of electronic technique being an electronic motivation.
anyway, I don't.  -------------
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 10:19
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You've gotta hand it to Rico, he's the man. (what's he going on about?) ------------- Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005 |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 12:32
Wakeman New Age albums are not¨Prog, that's not the reason why he is here.
Rick is here for releasing more Prog albums than lets say 80% off the Prog artists, he0s categorized here in Symphonic for that reason as Genesis is here for their Prog and not for their POP albums.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 12:38
attempt succesfull ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 13:29
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 19 2006 at 05:29
You should get yourself as "Progressive Electronic" specialist team leader, then your opinion about the subject would mean more.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 19 2006 at 10:41
is a label the only thing that counts.  not enough experience to be an Electronic specialist. and hell no to being leader. -------------
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: October 19 2006 at 12:00
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Yeah we need an Electronic Prog specialists here!!. Ricochet for Electronic Prog specialist  ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:22
Not the only thing, but if you want to overrule the majority, it would help.
At least I think you are quite experienced and you have a strong % rational view when reading your reviews of TD and Schulze. I understand that being a leader is not maybe fun, but if a such team would be formed, I think you could be a good team member!
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Posted By: DarioIndjic
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 02:24
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I think yes,after all kitaro was a keyboardist of Far East Family Band. ------------- Ars longa , vita brevis |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 12:44
well, thank you for the opinion, but I think that just knowing Tangerine, Schulze, Froese, Froese, Vangelis, Eno and (by the hatrid side) Kraftwerk means only that I am an electronic (optimistic) lover. like I said in my bio. the fact that every other names in the electronic genre is one empty for me frightenes me and makes me be modest. It's not about fun, it's about a "label" that means dexterity through a wide and open-minded documentation. but hey, if an Electronic Team finally gets out of future tense and I, by my merits, get nominated as a member of it, guess there's another majority over which I can't pass.  anyway, back to the subject, enough reflection on me being specialist (though I'm surprised NutterAlert hasn't showed up till now to make his usual "Rico's da man" statement  ). so...I don't. (starting it over again). -------------
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 12:47
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out of irony, I've circled around Kitaro's short bio on wikipedia. not only that he is stated as it's normal, ambient, new age, japanese fluorescent essence, but also the word "electronic" doesn't appear at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitaro -------------
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