Yes: Dissing Its Fans
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Topic: Yes: Dissing Its Fans
Posted By: kirklott
Subject: Yes: Dissing Its Fans
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 20:06
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After its 2004 tour, Yes decided it would take a
well-deserved 1-year hiatus. That grew into 2 years, then 3, and now...at least
4 years. At this point, the string of broken promises is increasingly
disrespectful to the band's fans, among the most loyal in the world. As Steve Howe himself said, "Yes has been sleeping in
this kind of awful mode that I think is slightly disrespectful to our beautiful
fans. I think that's really a shame." In addition, if Yes ever makes another studio album - and
that's a "BIG IF" - pun intended - it will be at least 7 years after
the release of its most recent release, "Magnification." The blame rests with Jon. And while it's not said openly,
it's apparently because he's mad at Chris. Well, get over it. Chris has done a
lot to further your career, Jon. The 5 Yes men have enjoyed extraordinary
careers, and without their fans the members of Yes would be managers or farmers
or truck drivers or longshoremen or whatever. Rock stars often feel like gods, and of course gods are
immortal. The members of Yes, however, are not. They need to wake up and
contemplate the fact that the next time they hit the road, they'll likely all
be in their 60s. The average life expectancy for a So while the clock is ticking, Jon works on about 2 dozen
albums that will never be released, including a G-rap interpretation of
Wagner's "The Ring", an acoustic version of Topographic Oceans performed
by banging together stones from a Tibetan quary, and a 50-DVD animated
multimedia project combining early skiffle demos, whale songs, and Jane
reciting poetry to her cats. To kill time, Steve plays "Don't Cry,"
Rick releases an album a week, Alan opens for washed up C-rate AOR bands, and
Chris, well Chris is in therapy for NMS (Nardelli Mistake Syndrome). Yes has had a great run, and long outlived Genesis, ELP, etc. And it still holds a lot of potential, evidenced by the Keys albums, Magnification, and parts of The Ladder, as well as many terrific tours from 1997 to 2004. But the band needs to respect its fans. Yes should either start keeping its promises, or close up shop. ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 20:18
ok...hehehe, you might be right, we all want another studio album...but take a Valium man! You´re saying some crazy stuff...!
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: The Green Tank
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 21:55
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I would love to see a new Yes album. I wasn't a fan until 2005-2006, so I'd like to actually ANTICIPATE an album instead of buying one that's already out.
I'd also love to see them live. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gedhead
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 21:57
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This is what gets me about Yes. Love love love love. And then I always hear about how they have been at each other's throats over the years mostly about contracts and cash. Don't get me wrong, I love (ha) YES but the hypocrisy is awefully blatant. Reminds me of that show at the Garden back in 04 that was going so well and Jon just had to bring it all down by marching up some Jonestown guru for a little love preachin. Message to Jon, we are paying $$$ to hear your tunes, not to be reduced to a captive audience forced to endure your latest love-bead-threader or rainstick-maker. We are well aware that off stage you all cannot stand each other and are only playing because you can still get it at least 3/4 of the way done up there and make a better than decent buck doing it. So, if you do tour again, spare us the bullpucky, and instead take the road less traveled. Right before Awaken, step forward and announce to the audience the truth about the unadulterated hate fest that is the band, Yes. Maybe even charge Squire with the mic stand and get the crowd really hyped up for a great version of Close to the Edge. I would love that. |
Posted By: Gedhead
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 22:00
I think he is right on point. |
el böthy wrote:Posted By: KingBarbarossa
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 22:01
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I am grateful that Yes has gifted the audience with so many musical jewels. I think what ever they decide to do or not do will be fine. Of course a new studio album would be so wonderful to anticipate, but given this long, long career, there is absolutely nothing, that they would "owe" to their fans. Take their music as a gift. A gift is something that comes voluntarily. |
Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 23:03
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With Howe now on a successful reunion tour with Asia, I think that YES is going to release a new album until 2008, in their 40th Anniversary.And I also think that it could be their last, because Anderson is more than 60 years old now. ------------- Avatar: Photo of Solar Eclipse, Mexico City, July 1991. A great experience to see. Maybe once in a lifetime. |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 23:37
So you don't care if they break up or not? I do care - I prefer they continue to record and tour. And that's not the point - the point is that if Yes is done, the group should just say so. I'm obviously much more hardcore than the average fan. I've seen them live 25 times, and it would be a lot more than than if I didn't live in the middle of nowhere (Colorado). ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 23:38
Actually I prefer a nice strong Martini...     ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: Asphalt
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 00:17
hardcore shmartcore, it doesn't matter what you think they should do, only what they think is best; you think legions of PF fans didn't hope, for at least a second that their best group would reunite after seing them in concert at Live 8? You think Cynic hasn't put us all on fire with the recent talk about a reunion? If they do it it's entirely up to them, the more blessed we'll be; but if they don't we'll just have to be grateful for what they've provided so far. on a similar note, I don't get it why people generally say "wow, they've done some great stuff, but i'm so dissapointing with this one". Do they think the band really cares? I mean, if musically they've felt fullfiled doing some dud albums that's strictly up to them; just pick what you like and leave the rest to other people who might appreciate it. I still haven't listened to the whole of the KC catalogue and the first two PF albums are a mistery to me, but they're two of my favourite bands for what they've done good not for what they could've done  |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 02:35
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Hmm. I should scientifically pick a band apart. Sounds fun. Wait, Steve thinks I'm beautiful? (sniff) I love you Steve! Of course everything is Jon and/or Chris' fault...weren't they the reason for the two forms of Yes a while back? And where is Wakeman anyway? And, wait, he's rapping an opera? Say, maybe ole Jonny's not as boring as I thought. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 03:37
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The fact that Yes have been together for so long is testimony to the strength of their relationships. Inevitably there will be tiffs and disagreements, but these guys have served their fans incredibly well over the years.
None of us are getting any younger, and if they wish to take a bit more time between projects, I think the least we can do is respect that.
I have seen them live four times in the last 5 or 6 years. That in itself demonstrates an incredible energy and commitment.
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Posted By: PaperDuck
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 06:02
I'm as much a fan (and probably more of one) of incorporating rap into prog as anybody... But seriously, Jon Anderson rapping? I'll pass
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 06:32
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Rapping is technically spoken word, so many prog artists rap. Anyway Yes are a very old band, all around 70 would you still want to be working at 70? ------------- 
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