Best remaster series of classic prog bands
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Topic: Best remaster series of classic prog bands
Posted By: YYZed
Subject: Best remaster series of classic prog bands
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 09:43
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I like the KC remasters best. They have awesome sound and the booklets with the newspaper clippings are a nice touch.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 09:47
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The only ones I have so far are some of the Yes remasters, and they
sound excellent. They have very nice packaging aswell. A good buy! |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:04
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I disagree about the Yes remasters. On some of them the bonus tracks are really quite superfluous - especially those of "Relayer" and "Going for the One", while "Fraglile" is OK due to the presence of "America". In my very humble opinion, out of this list the best remasters are those by JT and VDGG, at least as far as bonus material is concerned. I'd also like to add the Caravan remasters, which are probably the best around. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:09
Well yes, you're right about that, but I tend not to listen to the bonus tracks anyways. |
Ghost Rider wrote:Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:11
The Rush remasters are great, the Genesis Definitive Edition Remasters are great (just received the Trespass Remaster, not available in Canada, and it sheds new light on an excellent album!!!) and lately I bought the Moonmadness and Music Inspired from the Snow Goose Decca remastered editions by Camel, and they are amazing. 
Also love the Gentle Giant rereleases... ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Clark Ashton
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:11
I voted for the VDGG, and also enjoy the Tull. I would have to pick the Camel remasters as my third.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:34
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I went with Genesis. Yes would've been my first choice, but they put all of those meaningless singles edits and studio run throughs.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:36
The studio run throughs are fascinating! |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:37
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I went for the Jethro Tull remasters, since I had none on CD, only on cassette and vinyl until that time, thought it would be a sweet opportunity. I'm not such a remaster/re-releases/msfl/et caetera fan or do act out of this collection impulse. however when it's absolutely a fair opportunity, I just may. (oh, one exception, I have all the Klaus Schulze re-releases)  so much bonus material I just can't stay away. Edit: sorry, I've sort of went outside the question. my answer has no vote, since I only have the JT remasters, therefore not a view in ensemble. ------------- 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:39
I definitely agree about the Caravan remasters. Wonderful bonus tracks from a great band! Also recommended: the remasters of Jethro Tull's WARCHILD (superb bonus tracks) and BROADSWORD AND THE BEAST (bonus tracks are much better than the original album). |
Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:54
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I like the VdGG and KC remasters if only for the booklet they contain. I voted for VdGG because of the great bonus tracks they add.  -------------  
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 11:16
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PF
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Posted By: Pulse
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 11:33
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It was a tough choice between Tull and King Crimson for me. The King Crimson remasters have wonderful sound quality and they have those newspaper articles, but the Tull albums have superb bonus tracks. I ended up voting for Tull in the end, but it was close.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 13:46
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So far I have read about bonus track and renovated booklets.
No-one has talked of the original music itself, yet. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 13:50
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Caravan (Deram), KC |
Posted By: retuow
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 13:55
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The top 3 in the remasters league are for me:
1. Van der Graaf Generator 2. King Crimson 3. Jethro Tull ------------- Human beings were created by water to carry it uphill. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 14:07
That is a good point. The bonus tracks may be interesting, but they are not necessary. Those older Genesis albums were in desperate need of remastering. Because I don't care about the extra tracks, I did like the Yes editions. Although I only have two ("Fragile" TfTO), the improvement in the sound quality is great. TfTO was more than worth it. It makes my original copy sound like a bootleg. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 14:35
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The VDGG remasters are cleaned up so well. I chose them. -------------  
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Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 14:55
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An original poll at last. Well done!
I voted the Yes remasters! The extras are well worth it even if only from an historical viewpoint! It always intrigues me listening to a song in it's foetus stage. Those who don't like listening to demos ect have the option of skipping them so the argument that they are'nt worthwhile is futile, but at least they are there, which is why I would not vote for the Genesis and King Crimson remasters ect.
I also think the remastered 'YESSONGS' is probably the most improved sound I've heard on any remastered album! Special mention to the 5:1 'FRAGILE' CD also
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Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 16:55
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I voted for VDGG, although as mentioned the Caravan ones are excellent. ------------- Can you tell me where my country lies? |
Posted By: Forkface
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 16:58
| Of the choices given I would say the YES remasters are the best. Although I think the MOODY BLUES, KLAUS SCHULZE, and HAWKWIND have had the best remasters in recent years. |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 16:58
, speaking of Jethro Tull and Van der Graaf Generator remasters.I haven't yet Caravan remasters though... Hopefully I'll get them sometime... as well as Peter Hammill solo remasters...
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Posted By: Fishy
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 18:30
| I would defintely go for the KC remasters. The press articles are really interesting and the dics sound aweome too. I also like the VDGG remasters because of the sound which benefits the most from this series of the remastering process. The packaging of the Yes remasters are obviously the best, containing lots os info and pictures but the bonus tracks are not essential and the sound of their previous remaster series is sometimes even better ; previous versions of tracks are good to hear once but I never give it a second spin... The Genesis and PF remasters are allright but there's no bonus tracks or bonus information whatsoever... |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 18:45
Tull! 
Yes are a close second. Then Floyd.
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Posted By: kermit the prog
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 20:01
| How can Yes be winning? Some of their bonus tracks are pretty bad. Tulls remasters are miles above the rest. Tulls remasters are full of many many bonus tracks of very high quality. My only disappointment is that the 1971 songs from LITP were not included on the Aqualung remaster, while Broadsword did not include 8 additional bonus tracks(It could have had a total of 26 songs). Other songs such as Blues instrumental and Bungle in the jungle remix were also missing from remasters. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 20:52
Dude. Your name owns.
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Posted By: kermit the prog
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 05:11
what does it own? ;)
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Posted By: kermit the prog
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 05:13
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The only Yes remasters which are worth making a deal over are the Tormato and Drama ones. They have a good amount of bonus tracks. But half of those tracks do sound pretty unfinished and Jons voice sounds pretty bad in some. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 13:24
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I love the KC remasters, almoust all my KC cds are remastered... And I absolutly dont like the Jethro Tull remasters...there are more bonus tracks that the actual album songs...  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 16:05
| YES are well done with great liner notes. The worst remasters ar the Floyd ones my old vinyls sound better. |
Posted By: MustShaveBeard
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 22:07
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Yes shoyld not be winning, if only for the TFTO remaster. Why would they have 75% of the actual album on disc one and only 25% on disc two? They could have easily put one of the bonus tracks on disc one and the other on disc two. It almost ruins the flow of the album. I voted for VDGG, BTW. ------------- Your life or your lupins!!! |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 11:02
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Van Der Graaf Generator (exept Godbluff's two very annoying bootleg sounding bonus tracks) and Caravan. Great sound and some fantastic unreleased stuff. Klaus Schulze's bonus tracks on the (and Jethro Tull, but I'm not an obsessive fan) remasters look very interesting, though. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 17:25
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VdGG remasters are the best IMO. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:05
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1. VDGG
2. YES
3. KING CRIMSON
4. ELP
5. JETHRO TULL ------------- 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 20:35
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I have to go with VDGG, they have lots of cool extras tracks as well as the album itself.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 07:00
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Have to go with the Yes Rhino re-masters - they did justice to the original art-work (within the constraints of the CD format!), included some interesting blog, the re-mastering was 1st rate, and the bonus tracks, although mostly for completionists, did include a few gems.
Worst re-masters are ELP's - my big complaint being that different peices were run into one track on a CD (eg Emo's piano concerto in 3 movements becomes 1 single track); Tarkus live on Welcome back - including Aquatarkus - ditto - which is a real pain sometimes.
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Posted By: kermit the prog
Date Posted: September 12 2006 at 07:34
that's why you get remasters because of bonus tracks. The sound difference on remasters is barely noticeable unless you have bionic ears. All the bands do is turn up the high and low frequencies a bit, but I can do that with Nero and burn it like that too. Would you rather Three of a perfect pair with it's several dance mixes of sleepless(which is a crappy song anyway) or would you want a Warchild remaster with 7 bonus tracks which are all better songs than most of the original 10 tracks.
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Posted By: blbx93
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 11:19
| I have listened to Fragile and Closer to the Edge on my studio headphones, and the quality is amazing. The livliness of the albums beats albums that have came out in the last year. YES remastered is brilliant. |
Posted By: Taril
Date Posted: September 13 2006 at 21:50
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I vote for the Genesis remasters. They really improved the sound.
------------- Bright Ambassadors of Morning |