70's drug free artists???
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Topic: 70's drug free artists???
Posted By: DallasBryan
Subject: 70's drug free artists???
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 15:55
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THE SAINTS
data contained in microdot and I got sunshine in my stomach
the big A is headed our way!
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or had we learned from Lennon and Jagger it was best to keep things tidy roundabout?
like the hippies and the wives on the days of our lives, I dont think so! |
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 16:01
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 16:03
| really, someone suggested that to me before. do you usually see the album covers I post? |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 16:04
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Are you sure about Peter Gabriel? He seems the perfect sort to take drugs to me! Bryan, I'll try and repost the images, hold on.    Hopefully that'll work.  -------------   
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 16:08
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tongue in cheek |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 16:09
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Posted By: Space Chief
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 20:05
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Posted By: Dr4Wazo
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 22:42
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Drug-Free musician/artist/progfan = me
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"Mëem Otsilennhetëe Dros Sun Surra Steuhn Do Nansei" |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 23:21
I think that was me, and no, still no pictures. Your avatar isn't coming in either. Are you posting from your PC? They have to be on the web in order to appear. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
DallasBryan wrote:Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 23:33
I'm sure about Peter Gabriel, the guy accepted he once ate a hash brownie that someone left at his house and he appeared a long distance away not knowing how in hell he had reached there with his heart beating above 150 per minute and feeling he was dying. He was so scared that he stuck to what he described as his own demons. Later he accepted he is bipolar and if he would had taken drugs the effect would have been devastating.
But not only on his words, Phil Collins (Who was photographed with Steve Hackett lighting funny cigars backstage) said that Peter didn't even drinked alcohol, that just smelling a beer caused him to be out of control.
If I'm not wrong, VDGG members who toured with Genesis when working with Charisma said something like that when they were getting high in the back of the bus, Peter was in the front row reading books and I believe they also mentioned something about Tony Banks sleeping or working in his music.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 03:38
The full story is that during the Six Bobs Tours (referring to the price of admittance) is that Genesis were at the front of the bus reding books, doing crossword puzzles , while Lindisfarne were getting drunk in the middle of the bus (cannot escape those Newcastle roots) and VdGG sat art the back smoking dope , readind and meddling with the other two groups. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 03:49
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Zappa was drug free but not his musicians! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 04:15
same for Jethro Tull ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 11:35
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I cam't believe that Ian has been drug-free all these years. Hehe. ------------- 
You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 12:22
I remember Lennon talking about how he never did acid.
anyway if you ever listened to the Lamb on acid or after a few experiences you would know the answer, but I guess thats why they call it hidden knowledge.
 not recommending it, but millions already know the truth.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 14:27
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 15:21
| Apparently Ted Nugent has always been a drug free artist- he claimed he didn't realise the drug connotations of songs like 'Journey To The Centre Of The Mind' and the fried 'Why Is A Carrot More Orange Than An Orange'(!) whilst playing them in The Amboy Dukes. |
Posted By: DeepPhreeze
Date Posted: August 16 2006 at 14:00
Hahah yes Why disenfranchise your fans when you can drop subtle hints in the music instead? RUSH comes to mind. 2112, Cygnus X-1, and The Fountain of Lamneth have COUNTLESS references to LSD/marijuana. |
Posted By: Nanook
Date Posted: August 16 2006 at 21:02
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I thought back in the '70s that Yes was pretty much drug-free except for Wakeman.
The way it sounded, the rest of Yes were non-drinking, non-smoking vegetarians while Wakeman was a beer-drinking carnivore. That was supposed to be the reason he was in and out of the band so many times. I don't know, just what was going around back then. And I'm speaking as a beer-drinking carnivore. ------------- Bring me my broadsword, and clear understanding. |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 16 2006 at 21:08
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Yes admitted to smoking lots of dope in the Mojo prog special. -------------  
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: August 17 2006 at 12:14
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Interesting...I never knew Peter Gabriel was bi-polar. ------------- Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005 |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: August 17 2006 at 12:20
And what did YOU take to find such non existing references in these songs??? ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 17 2006 at 12:27
Only A Passage To Bangkok has overt references. One song...but it certainly compensates...
Our first stop is in Bogota To check Colombian fields The natives smile and pass along A sample of their yield Sweet Jamaican pipe dreams Golden Acapulco nights Then Morocco, and the East, Fly by morning light We're on the train to Bangkok Aboard the Thailand Express We'll hit the stops along the way We only stop for the best Wreathed in smoke in Lebanon We burn the midnight oil The fragrance of Afghanistan Rewards a long day's toil Pulling into Katmandu Smoke rings fill the air Perfumed by a Nepal night The Express gets you there
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 17 2006 at 12:38
Not alone, he's in good company:
Musicians Ludwig van Beethoven, composer http://www.mental-health-today.com/bp/famous_people.htm - http://www.mental-health-today.com/bp/famous_people.htm
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 17 2006 at 17:03
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^ I'd hesistate to call Axl Rose good company. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 17 2006 at 22:30
Jeff Buckley was also bi-polar. (At least it states so on wikpedia) -------------
You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 11:09
and have any of these not had major drug or alcohol issues previous to their diagnosis?
my 1st wife was diagnosed as bi-polar after she used drugs and alcohol after our divorce. previously she never used drugs or alcohol and had no issues, that I could see outside of the fact everbody has issues. her public imagine and physical appearance is not of a drinker or drugger, to avoid contraversy she denies her past use publicly. so, you cant prove anything and I cant either(no matter what anyone sez), but if I think something I will say it from my viewpoint and experience. any true practitioner of dark or hidden things will deny association until a compremise is reached. even an alcoholic, which is fairly socially accepted will deny use to cover up behaviors. mostly progressive music was created as a vent for psychedelic, narcotic use in the 70's as well as selling non conventional intellectual idealogy as well as sexuality and spirituality. psychedelics was always the door opener to the thought processes. anyway I dont need another line by line bi-polar analysis of my thoughts or notions, I just have an alternative viewpoint and some agree some disagree, I think historically you shouldnt dismiss different viewpoints because an artist chooses to make there lifestyle private. do you know anyone that admits to selling there soul to the devil and has all the trappings of a real deal? do you know anyone that admits to serious cult activities? but do they not exist in the places you would least expect?
today anyone can go to a psyche and complain about issues and or suggest am I bi-polar, the answer 90% of the time is YES, then they can sell you medicine and more office visits. Not that some(10-20%) have disorders. The artists on the above list are just guesses too! Bi-polar was not even a diagnosis years ago and somebody with mental problems goes and sees that someone had this and someone had that and now the world is bi-polar. this is not worth a debate and I cease to continue. if someone has a viewpoint, start an alternate thread!
dont kid yourself back when this music was made, NO ONE that wasnt doing acid, smoking dope and experimenting with the rest, from lifestyles to philosophy would even listen to progressive rock. NONE!
their minds had no interest.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 12:47
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It's hard to discuss with a person that gives absolutely no argument except his own unique experience says that no person who wasn't in acid and dope listened or wrote Prog' music.
I personally know a lot of people slighty older than me who played and compósed in famous Peruvian Prog bands and I lnopw that as members of the Sodalitium Christiane Vitae, have never smoked even cigarettes, and I know them.
So we must assume you are right, your diagnose is correct, Peter Gabriel used drugs because you say so, and we must also believe:
The big question is WHY IN HELL????? What does this people gain or loose if Peter Gabriel ever smoked weed. used LSD or heroin???They all lie, the above list is just guessing (All the people have confirmed that have bipolar disorder except Beethoven and those who had died, which BTW can be medicated since the late 60's) but you without even having a Psychology degree, having ever made a test of drugs use to Peter Gabriel, never having questioned his friends, bandmates and rivals and without ever talked with Peter Gabriel say they all lie and that he was a drug addict because you know how people was.
Please Dallas Bryan, you can't sincerely believe what you say.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: acheron
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 13:54
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Frank Zappa, and Ted Nugent, and Gene Simmons are the only people from the 70's that claim to have never taken drugs
i believe Zappa and the Nuge. but i dont know about simmons
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 14:15
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I believe some musicians never used drugs but probably avoided the subject as it seemed un-RnR lifestyle to journalist.
And Zappa got high on 21%O2 + 79%N2. Look what it did too him.
And Nugent was brain-dead by the time ha was born, but had his brain removed as he started his solo career.
I refuse to believe the Amboy Dukes psych masterpiece Journey To The Center Of Your Mind was not drug-enduced. And if Ted isto prove me the opposite than he is a total fake for having written such a track. (not sure he's the one who wrote it) ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 19:29
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everyone will have a different opionion, thats fine! i dont need to defend mine. Yes, Zappa, Nugent and Gabriel all used psychedelics. for how long only god knows. No, I dont believe today's athlete is clean, I believe they are all basically dirty sometime in their career, I know to much to think different. I have been behind the scenes in the music industry and the sports industry.
just locally, you probably would have a problem believing say Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia formed a group of Muslim investors and use Jerry Jones as a frontman or so-called owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry owned a failing oil company in Arkansas or Oklahoma and started sending oil drilling equipment to Saudi prince's back in the 80's. these are to people that paid my family 1 million dollars for the field at Texas Stadium years ago, and the last company that installed the latest field and the one that is going into the new stadium in Arlington, TX. believe as you wish and I think you should, I will not continue to respond so lets continue on another subject or kill the thread, both sides feel justified, not a problem for me, I will not make references to Zappa, Gabriel and Ian Andersons past, again!
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 23:29
"Digging in the Dirt" is about his therapy. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |