Petition for Primus to be in Progarchives
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Topic: Petition for Primus to be in Progarchives
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Subject: Petition for Primus to be in Progarchives
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 16:56
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Let them in!!! They are prog!!!!
They should be listed as some kind of breed of prog!!! Do it!!!! do it!!!! WHO'S WITH ME!!!!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 17:13
| Huzzah! |
Posted By: ShrinkingViolet
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 17:50
| I totally agree , love their song 'my name is mud' |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 18:37
| Yes let them in !!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 19:14
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LET EM IN!!!! DO IT!!! DO IT!!!!!
CAN WE START A CHANT PEOPLE??? LET EM IN!!! LET EM IN!!! LET EM IN!!! LET EM IN!!! LET EM IN!!! LET EM IN!!!! LET EM IN!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 19:36
| hehe my friend is a huge pnuk fan, i found out about primus by him. i think its defentily more punk then prog guys sorry |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 20:25
...just because your friend likes punk and then likes primus doesnt mean primus is punk. lol. 1. they know what they're doing. 2. they have complex time signatures. and 3. they don't sound anything like punk! they are not punk. they are a strang kind of funk/metal/prog. LET EM IN!!!! LET EM IN!!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Eddy wrote:Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 20:56
I said no, but I'll say yes as long as Styx is gone.  ------------- "Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..." |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 20:58
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are you saying other music types cant be complex bassit! (WANNA FIGHT!) |
Posted By: Sound Chaser
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 21:32
There are talented bands in other genres. I do agree that they're not punk though but they're also not prog. |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 21:33
I didn't say that at all. lol. I was stating that punk isn't. because it sucks. 
But Primus isn't punk at all. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 22:10
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ooo strong words!! |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 23:27
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That's it. We're fighting.
Did anyone see me say that other music isn't talented? I don't think so. I listen to all kinds of music but I know to distinguish one from another and let me tell ya. Primus aren't punk! LET EM IN!!!! LET EM IN!!!! They are more prog than styx!!!! LET EM IN!!!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 21 2004 at 23:55
| Primus aren't punk, you gotta be crazy!! |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 00:27
| If Beefheart and Zappa are accepted as prog, then Primus should NOT be left out !! Claypool are one of the best bassplayers on the planet and Primus are unique. |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 01:12
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just because a band is unigue doesnt meen itas prog! hehehe im having fuN! BOO PRIMUS BOOO! PRIMUS = PUNK!!!!! |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 01:20
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as much as i like the group... i'm not sure they're prog. if primus is
prog, then that opens the door for tons of other psuedo-punk and
-alternative groups to be considered prog too. To me, progressive rock
is the addition of jazz, classical, and ethnic musical styles into a
rock format where highly talented musicians play sophisticated,
intelligent rock music that is complex, challenging, and deep. I guess
its a definition in progress... but either way, I'm not entirely sure
Primus meets those standards. Claypool is, without any doubt, a
spectacular bassist. The band plays complex music. Despite this, I'm
not entirely impressed with the rest of the band and it does seem to be
a little too punk for my taste... most of their songs are really jams
based off of a highly complex Claypool slap-bass riffs that go on and
on until the song comes to an end. I'm not saying the band is bad...
but I'm not so sure they're prog, so I'm (reluctantly) going to vote no. And Claypool needs to shut up. He can't sing. Would somebody tell him this already? ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 01:21
| WOOO See what sweetnightewr said is true . BYE BYE PRIMUS. We dont NEED YOU |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 01:25
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sippin' a little too much of the bubbly there eddy? smokin' the grass?
------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 01:48
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Woah, just a couple of days ago I was thinking of asking the same question, but I didn't want to sound stupid (How progressive are Primus... really?). Anyway, I say 'yes'. EDIT: Punk??? |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 01:55
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So Beefheart and Zappa can sing ???
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 02:08
| sipping to much of the bubbly?! wtf! . i cant object to the other comment though....all funninest aside...primus arnt prog. booo primus |
Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 02:08
| Awesome, my friend bought that DVD as soon as it came out. Have you seen it? |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 02:16
No, but I ordered it about 10 mins ago, just to spite Eddy 
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 02:25
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spite!Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 02:25
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Speaking of the DVD... http://www.primusville.com/hg/ - http://www.primusville.com/hg/ |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 06:14
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Personally, when I listen to Primus I hear a huge Zappa and Crimson influence. If that's not prog enough, then I don't know what is. But I really don't care if they're in the archives or not...either way, it won't change how much I like the band. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 07:09
Now now Jester, we can't be selfish, keeping all the best musicians for ourselves. Claypool may be a phenomonal bassist, but that is no reason to class his band as prog. ------------- We Lost the Skyline............ 
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 07:28
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Captain Beefheart is prog then ?
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 07:30
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I love Primus and there is a strong case to say they are prog but I'm not sure any member of the band would say they are though. They supported Rush on the Roll The Bones tour I think. Does anyone have their number so that we can ask them? ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 07:37
 A Clown ??? |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 10:29
even in the archives ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 13:40
If so, then Primus also belong in the archives. 
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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 14:22
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No. Definately No. I can't even believe you are comparing beefheart with Primus. Primus does nothing more than take one complex bassline, putting a weird guitar on that and quite basic drums and REPEAT THAT SAME PART the WHOLE song. Beefheart does NOT do that, his songs involve EVOLUTION. Zappa is on a whole other level and shouldn't even be compared with Primus. Seriously, I do not understand why some of you compare stuff that is not comparable.  ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 14:45
 Primus
does nothing more than take one complex bassline, putting a weird
guitar on that and quite basic drums and REPEAT THAT SAME PART the
WHOLE song.Reminds me of Peter Gabriel, but I guess he´s not prog either. |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 14:56
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Primus belongs here! They're more prog than Styx and they managed to get on here. ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:03
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hey! I like Beefheart's voice! ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:05
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pppfff, no comment!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:30
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I agree! Primus sounds nothing like bands such as Hawkwind, Magma, Flower Kings and Marillion- all of whom are so similar. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:37
I was going to get that for christmas, it was only 16 bucks, but when i went back to get it, it was gone. 
But however, My Drummer is on the back of the dvd in the crowd, he's the guy in the top leftish side with his mouth open like he is screaming from the crowd. Anyway, PRIMUS SHOULD BE IN!!!! WHERE'S MANNI!!!?!?!?!?!? MANNI!!!!!!!! GET PRIMUS IN THE ARCHIVES BRUTHA!!!!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:57
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NO NO! Primus is not prog! I have Sailing The Sea Of Cheese. Their music is fun, but it bores me after a while... IF PRIMUS IS PROG, THEN SO IS RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS! Primus is a fun crossover, but not prog! |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 15:59
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Red Hot Chilli Peppers are prog. Californiasurf-prog. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:03
| hehhe primus is not prog. i have to put the line there. stamp it down with perniment markers. if primus are prog then a whole crapload of other bands like them will spew forth from the pits where they came from and decicate our beloved site. primus= punk with prog flair but still not prog |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:06
| Some riffs are pretty difficult, but they're still riffs. And they don't change, or PROGRESS! |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:07
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MANNI!!!!! LOOK AT THE VOTES!!!!!! THEY DESERVE TO BE IN THE ARCHIVES MORE THAN STYX OR.....OROKO....SAKI.....GUY...........
.... PRIMUS!!!!!! PRIMUS SHOULD BE ENTERED AS ART ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:08
Red Hot Silly Peppers sucks 
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:22
Red Hot Chili Peppers!!! ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:26
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Not to mention flea is a horribly overrated bass player.
Slapping isn't everything. anyway, LET PRIMUS IN THE ARCHIVES!!!!! LET EM IN!!!! LET EM IN!!!! LET EM IN!!!!!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:29
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Cause I'm the one who knows what scares you I'm the who loves you best I'm the thirteenth at the table I'm the uninvited guest I'm the Banquo at your banquet I'm the cuckoo in your nest I'm your fifteen-stone first-footer I'm the uninvited guest Let me in! ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:32
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yes, flea is extremely overrated. I was reading a bass guitar magazine and they were listing the best bassists ever. They put F**king flea before Geddy Lee and John Entwistle!! Those bastards! ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:33
------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: will
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:40
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The votes suggest that a bit more than half of the members (who voted) want primus in, does this justify them being put in archives. I would expect a larger majority before they are considered. I havent voted as i have not heard the band. ------------- Long live progression. Will |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 16:41
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Well put!
It's not a case of whether members want them in the archives or not - it's a case of whether the site admins think they're prog or not. And they're not. |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:01
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wait wait... shouldn't prog have some sort of objective standard? just
because the people on the board say something is prog.... does that
make it prog? if 50,000 frenchmen said it was okay to kill, would it be
okay?
------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:05
| If one President said the same would it be ok ??????????? |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:12
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yes. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:17
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Yeah! Why should we just trust the opinion of one person. The "President" has crapped all over my country and just because he says it's ok doesn't make it ok. We really should go about adding them by democratic process. ^ not the way our "President" would go about it ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:23
Looks like Les Claypools Frog Brigade 
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:28
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Nah. It's just "President" Bush's Christian Coalition. ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:28
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:29
| Perhaps Primus is frog then. |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:29
| Frogrockers unite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:30
------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:39
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:41
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:42
 ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:44
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Hey ! That´s down right pornographic, that is |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:44
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I´m offended
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:45
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------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:46
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All: Sweetnighter said: "Wait wait... shouldn't prog have some sort of objective standard? just because the people on the board say something is prog.... does that make it prog?" First, the very idea of an "objective standard" is (sadly, perhaps) laughable: we've had that discussion at least a dozen times on the site. No, my definition of "prog" will differ from yours, even if there are many overlapping elements. Ultimately, if Sweetnighter (and others) feel so strongly about Primus being prog, they are perfectly free to start their own progressive music site and include them. As for ProgArchives, Max and Rony created the site, and have the right to decide - totally in their own discretion - what they consider "prog." That said, making a good case for a band can help get it on the site, and Max is always willing to listen to a band carefully before making a final decision. I would caution, however, that he remains particularly sensitive to how far he stretches his own definition: if he doesn't stretch it enough, legitimate "prog" bands might not get through. However, if he stretches it too much, then he starts down a "slippery slope" of allowing any band that just happened to record a "proggish" song or two (or even album or two) to be included. For the record, I believe Max agrees with my basic qualification for a "prog" band: that the vast majority of their output clearly show a conscious, deliberate approach to songwiting, execution and recording using most (if not all) of the elements that most people would consider "prog sensibilities." Again, individual definitions of "prog" may differ on "specifics," but there are elements that the vast majority of us would agree are essential to any defintiion of "prog." Peace. |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:48
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P.S. Re the frogs, not "pornographic." "Highly suggestive" maybe, but not pornographic. It stays.........for now... Peace. |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:50
Ok MAX start your stretching excercises 
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:53
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This place is turning into FrogArchives.
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 17:54
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*sigh of relief* I thought maani was going to get me on that one for sure. ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:00
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wtf. this thread was serous mostly until page 3 where it started talking about president and what not. then on this page it got a little weird. how the hell did it turn to frogs. whats WRONG WITH US. heheh i thought maani would too hehe. oh god plz let this not be another mariah thread... |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:01
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here's a better question. What isn't wrong with us??? ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:01
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Shut Up Eddy !!!
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:02
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Or I´ll start an EDDY THREAD
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:03
| ...wtf..... |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:03
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See? Even I can be "docile" when I want to be... |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:04
------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:04
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DJ: Eddy thread?
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:04
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So the Prozac is working I see
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:05
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woooo! I got page 5! ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:07
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Well after Mariah we got to have an Eddy Thread.
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:10
| nah lets not do that. keep that crazines on the mariah thread. or start a christina agulara thread. what what this about this again? |
Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:12
Some people might think that such a thread would not be Prog. But just listen to the last track of ELPs TARKUS album. 
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:19
Yay, a big important person noticed me!!! A few things. First, I understand that we'll never all agree to one standard of what is progressive rock. Having said that, we must realize that we can't take that mentality to the extreme... if we all woke up tomorrow and decided that mariah carey was the standard of good prog, would it be? "Progressive Rock" must have some sort of definition or some sort of boundary, otherwise the words "progressive rock" have no substance or meaning whatsoever. So, at some point, some basic generalities concerning what prog is must be established... if somebody joins the board and says that johnny cash is prog, he has to be right or wrong by some standard, whatever that may be. Maani's "basic qualifications" would sum this sort of standard up, even though somebody may be able to propose a better one. I hope you understand what I'm getting at... its a matter of linguistics, really. If "apple" mean't whatever anybody wanted it to mean, then we'd have no way of understanding what "apple" means. Maybe my view of it is too "conservative" by some of your standards, but I'm trying my best to convey what I think. ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 18:21
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and btw, for clarification, i don't think primus is prog... maybe they have "prog flair" but they're not prog IMO.
------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 19:01
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Sweetnighter: You make a valid point. Indeed, re "apple," consider the following. There are 100 people in a room. A person (not part of that group) holds up a standard (red) apple and asks, "What color is this apple?" 99 out of 100 people say "red." One person says "blue." Under these circumstances, and assuming the 100th person was not color blind and not joking, we would label them "crazy," which relates to "sanity." Now reverse it. 100 people in a room. A person (not part of the group) holds up a standard (red) apple and asks, "What color is this apple?" 99 out of 100 people say "blue." One person says "red." Thus, the definition of "sanity" - like the definition of "prog" - is what the majority says it is, regardless of whether that definition is correct. Right? |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 19:11
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Yes, but where can I buy a blue apple?
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 19:24
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 19:25
They'd pay us up at my local club! -------------
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 19:48
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now in traditional fasion.: page 6 next!!! ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 20:17
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The proof. One problem Primus=prog-light!
Prog without the most important ingredient-progginess! -------------
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Posted By: Dead Jester
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 20:42
We know where you live Reed !!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: December 22 2004 at 23:52
Very true, great point. Even in your situation, the congregants understand that "red" or "blue" relates to whatever color is of a typical apple. Similarly, we can call the music of Yes, ELP, Genesis, etc. whatever we want to, but we know it relates to the music of those groups, and those groups are united under that title for certain reasons. In giving a band the title of being progressive rock, the defining characteristics of that title must follow in a logical matter. So, yes, although we can choose progressive rock to mean anything, its much more convenient for it to have a universally understood meaning, however rigidly or vaguely understood that meaning is... but, IMO, its better if it has a slightly more rigid definition than it currently has. ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 23 2004 at 12:52
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Everybody here has a clear understanding of what makes prog prog, and while it is really close to not being prog, it belongs here if Zappa can be here, Beefheart can be here, and styx can be here ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: December 27 2004 at 13:10
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I don't know if anyone mentioned this earlier in this thread but it is worthwhile to check out this Primus EP(which I forget the name of) where they do Peter Gabriel's "Intruder" and PF's "Have a Cigar".
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: December 27 2004 at 17:36
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Yeah, I have that, It's called "Miscellaneous Debris".
HAHA I REVIVED THE THREAD!!! IT SHALL BE LIKE MARIAH AFTERALL!!!! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |