Discussing "Symphonic" Rock; suggestions.
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Topic: Discussing "Symphonic" Rock; suggestions.
Posted By: Penumbra
Subject: Discussing "Symphonic" Rock; suggestions.
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 16:43
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Hi everyone, just to tell you I'm new, and hello! Anyway, I recently (a few months past) became interested in Progressive Rock, more specifically lighter, symphonic progressive. To give you an idea of what I prefer in detail, here's a list of songs which I love! :) Yes - Yours Is No Disgrace Starship Trooper I've Seen All Good People A Venture Perpetual Change Close to the Edge (Definitely my favourite piece of music EVER WRITTEN. It beats everyone from Mozart to Wagner to Holst to Hindemith to Mars Volta And You And I Siberian Khatru Roundabout Cans and Brahms (for fun :D) South Side of the Sky Long Distance Runaround/The Fish (so many layers of music; beautiful) Heart of the Sunrise The Revealing Science of God (The Dance of Dawn) The Remembering (High the Memory) The Ancient (Giants Under the Sun) Ritual (Nous Sommes du Soleil) The Gates of Delirium Sound Chaser (so friggin' funky/jazzy, I love it) To Be Over Awaken Dreamtime Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Tarkus (multi-layered, appears to be several movements; lots of keyboards :D) Jethro Tull - A Passion Play (it tells a good story!) Thick as a Brick (powerful, strong and great lyrics to attempt to understand) Pink Floyd - Echoes (nice and long, quite a few structures) Atom Heart Mother A Saucerful of Secrets Shine on you Crazy Diamond (Parts 1 through 9) King Crimson - Moonchild (my perfect ambient piece... well, the first few minutes anyway) In the Court of the Crimson King Epitaph I Talk to the Wind (is this even "prog rock"?) Rush - 2112 (It appeals to my romantic, fantasy side. I love the length :D) Genesis - Supper's Ready (Lots of movements; whimsical lyrics and fun stuff. I want more Genesis, badly!) Fates Warning - The Ivory Gate of Dreams (More of a novelty than anything else, but I love it!) I also find the post-rock sound of Godspeed You! Black Emperor to my immense liking. Take examples such as "Storm", "Sleep", and "Dead Flag Blues" as symbolic of my interests. I prefer very long pieces of music, usually in true symphonic form, utilizing several movements with transition between them. Close to the Edge is probably the archetype of my list; it is just ME.) So, I'd like to challenge the people of this great site: can any of you help me (and others who read this topic) to find more pieces of music in the vein of 1969-1976 music? I'd greatly appreciate input; for example, I know that Genesis and King Crimson were quite progressive, but I simply can't find any very long tracks such as Supper's Ready and Moonchild. I also know that ELP made something called "Brain Salad Surgery", and I'm wondering if this is symphonic like Tarkus. Greetings to all of you from Penumbra! :) |
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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 16:43
| I think my very long post shows how much I love long music :P |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 16:52
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Welcome to the site!! If you like lighter symphonic prog, Camel and Barclay James Harvest are must listens. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 16:58
| If you're looking for more recent bands, on Transatlantic's first album there are a lot of long tracks - notably the 30-minute-long "All of the Above". Same on Spock's Beard's "V" album, which is bookended by "At the End of the Day" and "The Great Nothing". |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 16:59
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First, get more Genesis like The Lamb Lies Down and Wind and Wuthering. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 17:09
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try the Flower Kings - Space Revolver is my favorite or Paradox Hotel....
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 17:12
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My favorite Symph bands are Sky, Trace, Ekseption, Genesis, The Enid of course.
Camel's a good suggestion, try the Snow Goose. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 17:39
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Hmm, apparently I had all of Karn Evil 9, Pts 1-3 on my computer! It sounds good. Also, I seem to have random bits of Genesis albums; the Knife from Trespass, and a few from Selling England by the Pound. |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 17:44
| Would songs such as "A Change of Seasons", by Dream Theatre, and other multi-part songs from rather harsh-sounding bands like Opeth, like "Ghost of Perdition" or "Baying of the hounds" fit into symphonic rock, or are they "symphonic metal"? There are so many friggin' sub-genres. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 18:23
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Dream Theater is not really symphonic. The multi-part songs are merely metal songs which are more complex than the average song and have more dominant keyboards. I guess you could call them symphonic metal, but it really doesn't matter; you wouldn't like them. The symphonic label is somewhat misleading anyway.
I recommend Genesis. Forget that they only have one epic. Length does not equal quality; I used to have the same thing as you when I first started, but now I'm ambivalent about epics. You really should not care how long the song is, as long as it's good. Besides, 3 songs on SEBTP are over 10 minutes long. They aren't really multi-part songs in the sense that CTTE is, (I would argue that except for part 3, the subdivisions of CTTE are completely useless, but that is for another time) but not many bands did that because it's a pain in the freakin' arse to write like that, and it doesn't endear your music to people who aren't already familiar with songs like that.
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BALEETED. ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 18:34
Quite wrong, not the same thing at all, although there is overlap (e.g. later SM releases and Nucleus). Some bands that are labelled Canterbury (Picchio del Pazzo for instance) aren't from the region, although most were, as it was a collective for the most part.
Caravan are barely jazz-rock, Hatfield, Gilgamesh, and NH, all have jazz rock elements, but they're nothing like Weather Report (more jazz fusion but who cares), RTF or any Corea release, MO, or anything like that. In fact, Canterbury musicians have a lot to do with RIO and avant garde than most will think (take Hopper's 1984 or Wyatt's first solo album, Henry Cow's early album(s) too). Many Canterburian musicians, like Dean, Tippett (Canterbury related?), Mark Charig, etc... went to do more jazz oriented albums, still Canterbury though. There were some interesting collaborations between musicians, like Hugh Hopper and the late Alan Gowen's "Two Rainbows Daily," excellent stuff. Some went to do new age (John G Perry, Karl Jenkins-->also does music for commercials). Anyways, enough for now. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Ghandi 2 wrote:Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 18:43
| Thank you for the suggests! Also, for those who have heard Pink Floyd's 1977 release, "Animals", how would you group the three songs "Dogs", "Pigs (Three Different Ones)", and "Sheep"? They are quite long, but as I have been told, long does not always equal progressive. They do not appear to be ... too proggy to me; just very long and ticked off heavy rock. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 18:44
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I'm sorry; I always got the impression that Canterbury was more avant-garde Jazz-rock with some other influences thrown in, but I guess I was wrong. My apologies; I haven't delved into it very much, anyway.
Some track suggestions that I just thought of:
ELP--The Endless Enigma pt. 1, Fugue, The Endless Enigma pt. 2 (They segue together) Focus--Hamburger Concerto
I think Animals is Floyd at their most progressive and their best (well WYWH comes very close); but it's not the prog you are used to. (which is mellotron drenched and more classically influenced. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but Floyd were doing something different. Think of it as a reaction to the Punk movement and a transition towards The Wall and it might make more sense.)
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 18:48
That's a quite controversial opinion ... Dream Theater are quite symphonic, apart from their metal album Train of Thought. And how do you know that he wouldn't like them? Quite presumptuous, if you ask me (but you aren't, I guess).  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2024/vote" rel="nofollow - 2024 Release Poll Listened to: 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 18:53
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I was going to say something similar! He's basically told the guy he won't like prog metal, just by looking at his tastes and also said he never will like prog metal! -------------   
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 18:53
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They're symphonically influenced, no doubt, but they're not symphonic in the sense that he's talking about. I think. These labels are confusing.
I don't think he would like them because he likes light, cheery music. Dream Theater are not light, and, like most (if not all) prog metal are most certainly not cheery. Go check them out if you're interested, Penumbra, (there are streaming songs on this site) but there's a lot of metal in them, and, from what you have said, it seems you don't metal. But maybe I'm wrong.
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FINE, I'M SORRY. IT'S DELETED NOW. ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 19:11
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Penumbra you are very smart, your Yes list is idenitcal to mine.
I suggest Camel. get Mirage, The Snow Goose, Camel and Moonmadness. (all by Camel) ------------- 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 19:12
There is a certain reviewer named Erik Neuteboom, perhaps you can check out his almost 800 reviews about genuine symphonic rock? I am sure you will find a few fine symphonic rock albums! Thanks, it will upgrade his ego-gratification  !
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 19:14
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Gotic - Escenes. I prefer it to The Snow Goose. I recommend that, if you can find it. -------------
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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 19:53
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Hahaha, I apologize for the confusion over my views. I simply love all music, and I don't explain this properly to most people. I've listened to "A Change of Seasons", "Under a Glass Moon", and "Dance of Eternity", by Dream Theatre. While they have interesting SECTIONS, the overall songs of D.T. don't click for me as well as Yes. Then again, it took me several listens to really love Tales from Topographic Oceans. Now I am attached to it. :) |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 19:58
you're a good man... once you proclaim it as one of the great albums of prog... we'll induct you into our secret little society. Not much too it... you have to play TFTO once a week, pledge to play it through headphones to any children you have in the future, and we meet once a week and get hammered and tell old war stories... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:07
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And Ghandi 2, I know what you mean. I don't necessarily concentrate on completely "light, cheery" music; however, I do *prefer* the lighter sounds. For example, the strings on "A Change of Seasons" are too... heavy sounding for me. I'm not sure what the actual material is (nylon, steel, nickel, etc), but prog metal doesn't do as much for me as prog ROCK. Sure, P.M. is good, but it's not as high for me as P.R. There we go! I have looked intensely at this site's "Symphonic Prog" subsection, and I notice that my favourite Yes albums make up the core of this :). I hope to become an expert solely in Symphonic Prog, also, as I just heard Harmonium's "If we had a Fifth Season". Very beautiful; Camel does not seem to have a very large selection around here. I cannot find any albums by them :(. I believe the reason I like Symphonic Prog ROCK more than Metal is the fact that metal has come from a distinctly American background; not that this is bad, but I grew up listening to the strains of European classical music such as Mozart, then Beethoven, Tchaikovsky and Holst/Vaughan Williams. Since my favourite prog comes largely from Britain, it seems only logical that I prefer the European style, which is progressive rock. Heck, I even prefer The Who, The Beatles and other big British acts to American acts. |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:10
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I am honoured Micky. You know what, I am not exaggerating when I tell you that I have listened to TFTO at least 50 times in the past month; I actually cannot get enough of the utterly sexy bass playing on Ritual, the awesome light-heartedness of The Revealing Science of God, the percussion work on The Remembering, and, of course, the great experimentalism and acoustics at the end of The Ancient. Pure prog. <3 |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:10
hmmm.... you need to start exploring the Italian section then.. if you are looking for pure T symphonic that's where you need to be.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:11
good deal... I've got my eye on you hahah. Let me know where your explorations take you..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:20
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Well, it's not that I prefer the use of symphony orchestras in symphonic prog. By symphonic prog, I mean the use of prog instruments (guitar, mellotron, bass, vocals, percussion, piano and A SPRINKLING of strings) in a symphonic form. TFTO is a perfect example of this: There are four movements, like a traditional symphony, yet not utilizing *a* symphony. This is what I want people to understand. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:31
exactly... and that ^ is why you need to, at some point, and the sooner the better...check out Italian Symphonic. You WILL be blown away... think King Crimson is heavy... listen to Osanna.... think that Emerson is a genius and love how the keyboards dominate ELP's sound... listen to Gianni Leone on YS. Think Genesis and Tull are great... listen to Locanda Della Fate and Quella Vecchia Locanda. Best of all.... your first exploration into Italian Symphonic Prog.... Museo Rosenbach's Zarathustra.. I promise you won't stop with that one... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:38
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To those who mentioned Genesis to me, thank you! I found that my father has CDs of them: Selling England by the Pound mostly is what I have found, and some foxtrot. Truly great and almost equal to Yes in beauty. I am looking for Italian Symphonic as we speak, Micky! I'm going to go full flight into Symphonic Prog; I want to hear IT ALL!! :) |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 20:44
that's the spirit... and a word of advice... if Erik Neuteboom give you a recommendation... take it... he's batting 1.000 on recommendations with me... not a bad or even less than stellar album yet... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 22:30
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You are on the right track my brother. If you are into TfTO (one of my new passions), then you are ready for just about anything. For Genesis, I believe "Foxtrot" is a must. You may want to explore more KIng Crimson. The John Wetton era is fantastic ("Lark's Tounge in Aspic," "Starless and Bible Black," and "Red"). I will agree with Ghost Rider, and also suggest Transatlantic. I love both albums. You also may be interested in Marillion's first four albums. Their direction changed with the loss of Fish, and I don't care much for it. I also highly reccomend taking up Micky's suggestion on Italian prog. He got me into it, and it is amazing. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 22:35
Well, you've certainly picked a great list of great Prog music. In regards to finding "longer tracks," remember, isn't a guarantee for great music.
Genesis were one of a few that were able to give epic proportions to a single song, or within a song. I'd recommend the Genesis album "Nursery Cryme" and listen to "The Musical Box," The Return Of The Giant Hogweed," and "The Fountain Of Salmacis."
I know The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway and Selling England By The Pound albums have already been mentioned.
King Crimson - I recommend the album "Lizard." Probably the most symphonic of the early Crimson, with Jon Anderson (YES) doing guest vocals. Some great mellotron playing, real brass and woodwind playing (English Horn solos). Mixes jazz and symphonic styles only Robert Fripp coud come up with
Also recommend "Moving Waves," by the Dutch band FOCUS. The last track, "Eruption" is a very long track, (takes up all of side 2 on the vinyl Lp version).
Even Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick" which is essentailly one whole song, concept in one album, CD...
Good Luck and Have fun listening to this great music.  ------------- - Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats - |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 22:55
hmm... thanks for the kind words... that said, do you consider the Wetton-era King Crimson symphonic... I admit I had my hands in on the move to art-rock for them. That era is more characteristic of a less symphonic more avant-garde style which of course is what sort of put them on a pedestal above many of the other groups.. like Yes.. they were never content to hit a stride in a style and perfect it.. they were always...looking over the horizon so to speak IMO. Those albums are essential.. but if he is truly looking for only symphonic... he should look elsewhere... like Transatlantic hahah  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: July 08 2006 at 23:16
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Italian symphonic must haves:
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso:
1) Darwin
2) Io Sono Nato Libero
Le Orme:
1) Felona E Serona
2) Uomo Di Pezza
PFM:
1) Per Un Amico
2) Storia Di Un Minuto
Quella Vecchia Locanda:
1)Il Tempo Della Gioia
Celeste:
1) Celeste
Alphataurus:
1)Alphataurus
La Maschera Di Cera
1) LuxAde
Finisterre:
1)La Meccanica Naturale
Ubi Maior:
1) Nostos
Maxaphone:
1) Maxaphone
Metamorfosi:
1) Inferno
Nuova Era:
1) Il Passo Del Soldato
2) Dopo I'infinito
There are a lot more Awesome Italian Symphonic must haves. This should be a good start. I'll post some more from other countries later, I have to take a quick ride to Newark now. Peace.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 03:08
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Refugee - Refugee (1974). One off album featuring the wonderfull Patrick Moraz (just before he joined Yes) with 2 ex members of The Nice ,Brian Davison (drums) and Lee Jackson (Bass and vocals).For my money this is one of the best symphonic prog albums out there ,perfectly showcasing the dazzling keyboard skills of Mr Moraz.Check out the reviews on this site..they don't lie! If you were to decide to check out some modern stuff then I would recommend the American band Glass Hammer.Shadowlands or Lex Rex would be the place to start with them.They are on the lighter side of symphonic prog using female vocals quite a bit and are very melodic.
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Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 03:10
You sound like you are in the boat I was in a couple years ago - though I grew up with Yes, Genesis and so it's a bit different with me. I just didn't know about the symphonic prog from other countries besides USA and UK. I agree with pretty much every recommendation you have gotten so far. Let me add a few if I may:
I agree that you should look into the Italian scene as well. Fantastic symphonic prog to be had! ------------- Best of 2006 that I've heard: PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album) Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific 2007: Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo |
Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 03:45
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Wobbler:
1) Hinterland
Renaissance:
1) Scheherazade and other Stories
2) Turn of the Cards
Novalis:
1) Sommerabend
White Willow:
1) Storm Season
Opeth:
1) Damnation ( Though a progressive metal band this release is all mellow symphonic, kind of the bands tribute to the prog bands that influence them. )
Fates Warning:
1) A pleasnt shade of Grey ( You mentioned liking Fates Warning and though they are in no way mellow symphonic, this album is a masterpiece of progressive rock/metal.
Pulsar:
1) Strands of the Future
The Watch:
1) Vacuum ( If you like Genesis then this band will blow your mind. )
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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 04:00
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Ah, I managed to find PFM's "Per un Amico". MY GOD!!! It is stunningly beautiful, and the mellotron baths I get in this album are purely orgasmic! I shall look more into the Italian Symphonic scene :). My best friend happened to send me "Aurora Borealis", by Pelican. I simply love that song, too. Instrumental Progressive rock is quite good. |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 04:05
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Actually, at the moment I think I like Harmonium's "If There Were A Fifth Season" much more than "Per un Amico". It appeals more to.. something. Not sure why. Hehe. Infact, the more I listen to Per un Amico, the less it sounds Symphonic and the more it sounds... folkish. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 04:13
The three (or four, including USA) Wetton-era KC albums are anything but Symphonic, IMHO - and I was on board when they were moved to Art Rock. If you want Symphonic KC, get the first two - then it ends. The only Wetton-Brufore era track that can be defined as vaguely Symphonic is the mighty "Starless" - a must, an absolute masterpiece, but symphonic only at the beginning and at the end. That said, those albums are phenomenal (though "Starless and Bible Black" may be a bit harder to get into) - though they also require quite a bit of concentration. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 09:12
obviously I agree ahahha.. which of the three is your favorite... LTiA always did it for me..albums wise though singular tracks like Fracture, or One More Red Nightmare are way up on my favorites list... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 09:53
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My favourite is "Red", followed closely by LTiA - which, unfortunately, is vaguely spoiled by Wetton's less than adequate vocals. I love "The Great Deceiver" from SaBB, while I find "The Night Watch" overrated. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 10:17
Strange, I thought I had already posted this, but I looked, and it was not here. Anyway, You are correct Micky. The KC was more of an expanding the boundaries suggestion. I figured since he took to TfTO so quickly, he could handle a lot of different things. However, we should wait a while before subjecting himto Magma. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 10:32
Do you really want to scare him off prog for good? Magma are not for the faint-hearted... Though I have a friend who, in spite of being an avid Camel and Renaissance fan, loves them with a passion!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 11:16
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I shall say it again: Gotic - Escenes Very much like early Camel and likely to be your thing. The Italian bands also are excellent. Alphataurus is my favourite, but that's the least symphonic out of the bands I have heard. Also, I would jump straight in with Willow's Storm Season, as it's rather more neo/prog metal sounding than symphonic. I suggest trying Sacrament by White Willow first of all. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 11:22
hmm... you know.. call me a big fanboy ..
but I never saw the big scare factor in Magma. My kids love Magma, and
my son just LOVES Stoah from the Kobaia album. Sure the vocals
at times can be a bit...much... but that music is just priceless..------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 17:38
Maybe we might get into other more philosophical meanderings and hey, even bug the Dream Theater junkies along the way.
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: July 09 2006 at 20:04
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Wlcome to the site... My suggestions are CAMEL (specielly the 70's stuff), CARPTREE (great swedish band), PENDRAGOM, ARENA and PORCUPINE TREE and please, try with Italian Prog... try to start with PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI, LE ORME and AREA... Peace & Love and keep on progging'!! ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 10:54
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I'm glad everyone's so enthusiastic about initiating me here! :) You did not scare me by mentioning "Magma". What is their music like; completely experimental or very ODD or something? I'll listen to anything :D I am in love with PFM and Harmonia! I will go for Camel today.. hehe. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 18:05
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They are possibly the absolute weirdest prog band. Want to know how creative they are? They started their own subgenre, Zeuhl. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=646 - Listen to the song from the album MDK. The other streaming songs are slightly more normal; try Udu Wudu. Because I'm bored, here is a sampler of some of the strangest stuff you may encounter in prog:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=118 - Listen to Knots, and if you're intrigued, Prologue, Experience, or the other sample songs. I personally like Free Hand, but I'm not really a Gentle Giant fan.
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=343 - Killer, Man-Erg, and Sleepwalkers
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5330 - Peaches en Regalia
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5822 - It doesn't really matter.
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7204 - There's only one.
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=3508 - Oh Yeah
Some of those are not songs that I would recommend to get you into those genres, but you can listen to them if you're feeling adventerous. ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 18:13
Magma -> french progressive fusion.... lyrics are sung in Kobaian.. a mixture of French, German, and total nonsense hahah. Early albums were rather jazzy.. the later albums full blown progressive with everything from jazz, opera, classical, electronica mixed in. The cream of the crop of French musicians seem to pass through that group. HIGHLY HIGHLY recommended.. we have some guys who REALLY know Magma much better than me. IF interested check with them. I'd start simple if you have any jazz leaning.. the debut.. Kobaia. Remember there are samples available here under each group on the front page... You'll find most everyone on the site very helpfull, we love this stuff.. and nothing is better than sharing/passing on that love so to speak... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 22:39
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How very correct you are! Sharing is always good and friendly and helpful. I am in love with "Tarkus" and "Karn Evil 9"! These remind me of Close to the Edge, in their own style and way. So much keyboard :)!! ------------- The Holy Trinity of Symphonic Progressive Rock 
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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:27
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Ah, I have finally been able to find The Snow Goose album! I love it to death. The way it is strung together reminds me of something less than "Thick as a Brick" and "Passion Play", but more than "Dark Side of the Moon". By this I mean, TaaB and APP by Jethro Tull both appear to follow a common storyline, albeit sort of ambiguous. DSotM, on the other hand, follows a concept of madness-causing things in life, yet each song is seperate from the others. The Snow Goose reminds me of what I call "Wordless Opera". This is like Tchaikovsky's and Mozart's overtures to stories in Operas. It all moves together, like a continuing storyline; truly great. ------------- The Holy Trinity of Symphonic Progressive Rock
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Posted By: theblastocyst
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 22:39
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I can see that your into these long, epic-like songs which is awesome. But if you wanna hear some really complex, melodic, well written, amazingly performed prog-rock, then check out Gentle Giant. I don't think anyone will disagree with me there. These guys are in my top 3 of favorite prog bands and my top five of favorite bands of all time. Start out with In a Glass House, Octopus, Free Hand, or any live stuff (they're f**king incredible live).
Also I noticed that your into the whole post-rock scene. Check out Mogwai, Mono (sick in concert), and Explosions in The SKy (These guys changed my life). Finally check out Camel. Most melodic stuff you'll ever hear. |
Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 00:46
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Well, I am glad to say that my playlist now encompasses all of this music (I narrowed it down to mostly particular songs that I like as my playlist, not entirely albums): Songs are in quotations. Yes: Tales from Topographic Oceans, Close to the Edge, Relayer, The Yes Album and Fragile. "Going for the One", "Cinema", and "Awaken" thrown in 'cause I love them. King Crimson: Red and In the Court of the Crimson King. Pink Floyd: "A Saucerful of Secrets", "Atom Heart Mother", Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals and Meddle. Emerson, Lake, and Palmer: Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus. Rush: I've found Moving Pictures, Hemispheres, A Farewell to Kings, Caress of Steel, 2112 and Permanent Waves! These albums are truly amazing and awesome. :) Genesis: Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, Trespass, Nursery Cryme. Camel: The Snow Goose. Harmonium: If We Had A Fifth Season. Focus: Hamburger Concerto. Jethro Tull: A Passion Play, Thick as a Brick. Premiata Forneria Marconi: Per Un Amico. Random Songs: "Jordrok", by Anglagard. "Miragem" by Bacamarte. "Aurora Borealis" by Pelican. Any more suggestions? By the amount of Italian Symphonic names I have been given, it seems I should move into that area. ------------- The Holy Trinity of Symphonic Progressive Rock
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Posted By: rushfan6588
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 02:13
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i might reccomend a bit of early kansas...maybe song for america (its a sampler on the site and u might enjoy it)
also if u like more ambient symphonic try aether (sample on the site as well) ------------- If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 02:42
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Well, all the obvious have been mentioned, here some good Symphonic recommendations besides Yes, Genesis, ELP and similar:
1.- Anglagard: Hybris (Try Epilog later)
2.- Par Lind Project: Gothic Impressions and Vini Vidi Vici
3.- Petrus Castrus (Portugal): Ascenção e Queda
4.- Frágil (Perú): Avenida Larco
5.- Pablo el Enterrador (Argentina): Pablo el Enterrador
6.- Trespass (Israel): In Haze of Time
7.- Steve Hackett: Voyage of the Acolyte
8.- Mona Lisa: Avant Qu'il Ne Soit Trop Tard
9.- Jeff Wayne: The War of te Worlds
10.- Rick Wakeman: Criminal Record
Iván ------------- 
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