audiophile
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Forum Description: Discuss musical instruments, equipment, hi-fi, speakers, vinyl, gadgets,etc.
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Topic: audiophile
Posted By: Aaron
Subject: audiophile
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 21:21
so, i have enough music at this point, where i think i want to tone down on my cd purchases and maybe thinking about getting a real nice system, or at least pretty nice one, not really sure what my price range is though
right now i just have a "home theater in a box" set up in my room, which is nice and all but I know I could do better
give me some figures and some things to look into
if a thread like this has come up before, point me in the right direction, because i wont bother searching
Aaron
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 03:07
there are a few threads floating round on this subject....
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21723 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21723
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22864 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22864
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 03:18
Here's one more thread:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6876 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6876
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 08:54
Aaron wrote:
so, i have enough music at this point, where i think i want to tone down on my cd purchases and maybe thinking about getting a real nice system, or at least pretty nice one, not really sure what my price range is though
right now i just have a "home theater in a box" set up in my room, which is nice and all but I know I could do better
give me some figures and some things to look into
if a thread like this has come up before, point me in the right direction, because i wont bother searching
Aaron |
Hello,
So, what's your budget for the whole? (including a minimum of accessories: quality power/interconnects (modulation cables + biwire HP cables), vib cancelling accessories).
Which ones of the 4 source(s) do you want to start with:
-CD (Do you want an integrated player or separated drive/converter setup?)
-Vynil turntable
-Tapedeck
-Tuner
Considering the amplifier issue, i think you'll probably want to start with a cheap solidstate integrated amp, and yes, no problem i can tell what to take.
But you must know that tube is another galaxy, far beyond solidstate in the mid highs, and that's what human hear is the most sensitive to. Nice highs is the first point on a system to be musical.
And so know that you can buy an american tube amp for 1000 dollars which is ridiculous, considering how good it is. It beats any solidstate amp in the highs, and it gives 100X more pleasure.
Jolida 302 (i've got the same for three years an it changed my life).
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 12:57
i feel like $2000 dollars is the most i would spend on everything right now
all i want it for is CDs and vinyl
Aaron
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 13:10
i just read a few reviews of the jolida 302 and it sounds greats, what do i get next, speakers, cables...
do i really need another cd player or turntable?
Aaron
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 13:13
another question
what do you guys get out of this high end business?
obviously you find it more enjoyable?
but is it more listenable? what i mean by that is, could you finish Tales... with no problems of boredom because are you completely taken away and absorbed in this new world of sound?
reply as cheesily as you would like
Aaron
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 14:16
Aaron wrote:
i feel like $2000 dollars is the most i would spend on everything right now
all i want it for is CDs and vinyl
Aaron
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Do you only want new products or ready to buy second hand elements?
My advice is to go for second hand, with such a budget.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 14:18
Aaron wrote:
another question
what do you guys get out of this high end business?
obviously you find it more enjoyable?
but is it more listenable? what i mean by that is, could you finish Tales... with no problems of boredom because are you completely taken away and absorbed in this new world of sound?
reply as cheesily as you would like
Aaron |
Quality products are not necessarly over expensive and the reverse is true.
Now i can advice you the cheap ones which work.
The issue is pleasure and emotion, that's all.
And yes, when it works, you're at the heart of the sound, words can't describe it. It brings shivers and tears to your eyes, especialy tubes and analog.
Considering cables, there are many good brands in USA.
The issue is to choose the best product in your price range.
A few examples of good US brands: Cardas, Synergetic resaerch, Kimber cables, Transparent.
Avoid: Audioquest.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 28 2006 at 11:08
In last Stereophile magazine, in "Analog corner", reviewer Michael Fremer explains that if today people don't LISTEN TO music -instead of hearing music as a background in the car or in the public transport i.e-, it's because of the boring digital sound.
Indeed, in the golden times of analog, like in the 70's, people were listening to their system -vynils- religiously during hours.
You'll notice that people stopped with the arrival of the sad numeric technology. Because numeric sound is so cold and boring, people loose interest in listening music, cause they don't feel pleasure.
Now, you can have pleasure with digital, but you need a "minimum" of budget, and overall, knowledge.
Her's the sad truth.
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 13:12
speaking of analog, can you recomend me about vynil systems, please?
Some cheap and good, nothing too espectacular, just for beginning.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 13:19
oliverstoned wrote:
In last Stereophile magazine, in "Analog corner", reviewer Michael Fremer explains that if today people don't LISTEN TO music -instead of hearing music as a background in the car or in the public transport i.e-, it's because of the boring digital sound.
Indeed, in the golden times of analog, like in the 70's, people were listening to their system -vynils- religiously during hours.
You'll notice that people stopped with the arrival of the sad numeric technology. Because numeric sound is so cold and boring, people loose interest in listening music, cause they don't feel pleasure.
Now, you can have pleasure with digital, but you need a "minimum" of budget, and overall, knowledge.
Her's the sad truth. |
No, they stopped with the arrival of video clips and tv sets in every room.
I'm still listening to music as deeply as I was 15 years ago on my vinyl player - and it clearly doesn't matter whether you're listening to mp3 on a cheap system or a big hi-fi system. Sure, some people can't stand mp3 and are convinced that it's not possible to enjoy it ... but some others have absolutely no problems with it!
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 15:46
Viajero Astral wrote:
speaking of analog, can you recomend me about vynil systems, please?Some cheap and good, nothing too espectacular, just for beginning. |
I can only recommend you something very good, ridiculous price, a very good source: Rega planar 3
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 01:07
Tanks, it looks good
I gonna search for one.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 03:55
You can find some on second hand. Better go for one featuring the original cartridge: the "Elyss" or "Super Elyss".
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