Mew
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Topic: Mew
Posted By: pale moon
Subject: Mew
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 15:28
hi there proggers! does anyone know/like the dannish band mew? they i've got a few albums and they sound quite progressive to me. in interviews they keep saying they are really influenced by early genesis, which is not a bad reverence right? why aren't these guys in the archives yet? maybe not progressive enough?
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 15:48
I heard some songs by them. The singers sounds like Jonsi from Sigur Ros. I don't even know of it's a he or a she!
On wikipedia theres an article or information about "new prog" and Mew is one of the bands mentioned along with Sigur Ros, Porcupine Tree and The Mars Volta.
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Posted By: pale moon
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 15:53
yeah. towards the outside world mew is a great ambassador for progrock, together with the bands you mentioned. especialy because they sell out stadiums in their homecounty denmark and are high in the charts over there. i can totally understand jonsi's vocals come into mind when listening to mew. also muse comes into mind. anyway it's quite an unique band i think.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 16:46
I wouldn't mind seeing them in prog-related, but as far as I'm
concerned, they're not really 100% prog. Good stuff, nevertheless.
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Posted By: Psychedelia
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 17:07
I have Mew and the glass handed kites. Great album although not particularly progressive to my mind. I saw them live as well and they were fantastic.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 18:38
Fantastic band. Their quality really manifests after a few listens. There are fantastic harmonies, and even polyrhythms throughout And the Glass Handed Kites. I personally get a lot out of it. Their early materal wasn't that great though, at least in contrast with their recent release. Definitely worthy of this site, even if only prog-related for the time being (I see great potential in the years to ome).
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Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: May 23 2006 at 18:47
Yep. a good one, their voice is rather original, but some songs bore me just a little, I don't own their albums, don't know if I should buy any, but some songs I DO like are:
"Circuit of the Wolf/Chinaberry Tree"
"Special"
"Snow Brigade"
"Symmetry"(anyone knows who's the female vocal singing along in this one?)
Somehow I relate them with Muse also, and the Arcade Fire and The Mars Volta(why?  I dunno)
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 01:32
Anguiad wrote:
Yep. a good one, their voice is rather original, but some songs bore me just a little, I don't own their albums, don't know if I should buy any, but some songs I DO like are:
"Circuit of the Wolf/Chinaberry Tree"
"Special"
"Snow Brigade"
"Symmetry"(anyone knows who's the female vocal singing along in this one?)
Somehow I relate them with Muse also, and the Arcade Fire and The Mars Volta(why?  I dunno) |
Get And the Glass Handed Kites, it has Circuitry, Chinaberry Tree, and Special (just going from your list). It's great, and all of the songs on it flow together like the first two you mentioned.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 16:34
I just heard Mew for the first time today on the radio. As soon as I got out of class I went over to the music store and bought And the Glass Handed Kites. Awesome! 
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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:24
i like mew. but i think it's somehow like System of a Down.
but it's little bit proggier. Great art, too.
I like Mew because it's clear. And nice rhytms (not very proggy, but much more than other pop, or even indie)
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 19:57
After finally getting hold of And the Glass Handed Kites I must say I'm
all for inclusion. At least in Prog Related, preferably in Art Rock.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 16:32
Mew are on the list of bands to be discussed for possible inclusion.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 16:37
chamberry wrote:
I heard some songs by them. The singers sounds like Jonsi from Sigur Ros. I don't even know of it's a he or a she!On wikipedia theres an article or information about "new prog" and Mew is one of the bands mentioned along with Sigur Ros, Porcupine Tree and The Mars Volta.
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Same thing happened to me. I remember a thread about favourite female singer. I said "That Sigur rós lady". Someone quoted me and added: "How can't you tell that is not a woman". (...)
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Posted By: Revan
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 19:29
chopper wrote:
Mew are on the list of bands to be discussed for possible inclusion.
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Nothing new?
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Posted By: Steinway
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 13:34
I think Mew should be included in the art rock section.
Of course they're prog in some sort! Prog is not necessary only the definition of creative music of the 70's. Prog nowadays doesn't have to be copycats of the 70's! Mew is a perfect example of modern prog not being considering prog because they haven't got "the prog sound". The definition of prog is not mellotron. Prog is creative rock music, often using unusual time signatures and complex compositions.
Does Mew have unusual time signatures? Yes. Does Mew have complex compositions? Well, not the most complex, but unusual. More unusual than Radiohead at least.
Include them in the archives!
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 19:17
Steinway wrote:
I think Mew should be included in the art rock section.
Of course they're prog in some sort! Prog is not necessary only the definition of creative music of the 70's. Prog nowadays doesn't have to be copycats of the 70's! Mew is a perfect example of modern prog not being considering prog because they haven't got "the prog sound". The definition of prog is not mellotron. Prog is creative rock music, often using unusual time signatures and complex compositions.
Does Mew have unusual time signatures? Yes. Does Mew have complex compositions? Well, not the most complex, but unusual. More unusual than Radiohead at least.
Include them in the archives!
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Don't worry Steinway, we already know what prog is. If it was suggested to the prog related section then I think the admins may have an answer to that, but be patient. They aren't the only band they're checking out.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 11:44
chopper wrote:
Mew are on the list of bands to be discussed for possible inclusion.
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Any progress on this at all?
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 12:24
^^ The Admin team is responsable for additions to the proto prog and prog related bands. I recommend you PM one of the Admins about the bands so it'll be more direct and personal. Keep PM them once a week if you'd like to ask them how's the addition coming along.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 16:19
^Art Rock, not Prog Related. Having Pure Reason Revolution in Art Rock and Mew in Prog Related wouldn't make sense.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 16:34
Well then send a PM to the Art rock team members instead.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 13:41
The Art Rock team members (or rather, one half of the team... yours truly) would be interested in hearing something from this band. However, please remember that Art Rock is 100% Prog, and not a section for 'semi-prog' acts.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 22:33
Philéas wrote:
^Art Rock, not Prog Related. Having Pure Reason Revolution in Art Rock and Mew in Prog Related wouldn't make sense. |
Exactly, I totally agree. They would fit well in art rock, but i won't complain if they're only prog related
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 10:00
Art Rock Team: You can check out their http://www.mewsite.com - official
site , there are some songs avaliable for streaming. It would be
even better if you got hold of the album And the Glass Handed Kites,
and gave it a thorough listen or two, to get the complete picture, so
to speak.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 10:05
Thanks a lot, Philéas! Unfortunately, this will have to wait for some time, as I will be away for the holidays. However, I promise I'll do that ASAP when I get back.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 10:56
I'm looking forward to hear what you think of them. Prog Related would
be sufficient if they don't meet the Art Rock criteria in your opinion,
but I hope that you recognize their Prog qualities.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 11:01
I have those albums:
A Triumph for Man
Half the World Is Watching Me
Frengers
And the Glass Handed Kites
And solely based on Glass, I would be inclined to add them to Art-Rock.
However the other albums, they do not make to me a strong case for addition. Good and nice rock, but not more. This is why I don't like the tagging of a band and not albums... we lose so much precision this way.
EDIT - (even though I shouldn't) I am now listening to their albums over again. And my conclusion would be Prog-Related.
Sorry Phileas, I see what you mean, but the overall impression I get fomr this is more of a rock outfit with other than usual characteristics, but in general the overall sound reminds me of other rock bands. They do bear some more sophisticated/complex parts in their songs, but it is not the dominant trait of their music. I think they fit prog-related due to this. (which is for the admins to decide).
Just my thoughts, not meaning to offend the fans (I love the music as well, otherwise I wouldn't bother with their albums).
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 11:02
Woof!
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 19 2006 at 11:09
OK, we can go about it in two ways.. Either you wait for me (or rather us..) to come back from the holidays and judge the band for ourselves, or one of you asks the Admin team to be allowed to add them to Prog-Related. However, as concerns the latter move, I don't know whether it is sensible to continue adding bands that may stir up further controversy. I leave the decision up to you.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 20 2006 at 18:36
avestin wrote:
EDIT - (even though I shouldn't) I am now listening to
their albums over again. And my conclusion would be Prog-Related. Sorry Phileas, I see what you mean, but the overall impression I
get fomr this is more of a rock outfit with other than usual
characteristics, but in general the overall sound reminds me of other
rock bands. They do bear some more sophisticated/complex parts in their
songs, but it is not the dominant trait of their music. I think they
fit prog-related due to this. (which is for the admins to decide).
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No need to be sorry, Prog Related would fit them better. I took time to
examine their music more closely, and as a result I agree with you.
So anyway, they really ought to be included as Prog Related.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 14:54
I think their music is far more complex than just prog related.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 06:41
^Yes, on AtGHK, but they have three more albums which are not as
complex. We do have to take future releases into account though, they
might go completely Prog.
Prog Related is perfect at the moment, no more and no less.
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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 19:01
yes, not to artrock - i don't want it to be spoiled with semi-prog.
Yes, to prog related. Although, the name prog related reminds me of like it... well, maybe Proggish or Rather progressive or something else would be good name to that "genre".. (i don't know how strong word "rather" is, but something like that..)
yes, prog related tells me that those bands have for example mellotrons etc.
But it's very big genre , there's metal, post-rock, gay rock...
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 21 2007 at 15:33
OK, I listened to "And the Glass-Handed Kites", and unfortunately for you Mew fans I was not impressed at all. I found the album extremely heavy going and only very slightly related with prog. Consequently, Art Rock is out of the question - Prog-Related maybe, but I'd hesitate to put them there either. There have been too many controversial additions so far, and I'd rather concentrate on adding real prog bands - there are many that are still out of our database.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 20:02
Ghost Rider wrote:
OK, I listened to "And the Glass-Handed Kites", and unfortunately for you Mew fans I was not impressed at all. I found the album extremely heavy going and only very slightly related with prog. Consequently, Art Rock is out of the question - Prog-Related maybe, but I'd hesitate to put them there either. There have been too many controversial additions so far, and I'd rather concentrate on adding real prog bands - there are many that are still out of our database. |
You ought to listen to it a few more times. As many good albums, it takes more than a couple of listens to manifest it's greatness. You'll notice many more subtleties if you try a few more lsitens. There are a lot of polyrhythms, great atmospheres and harmonies, and the whole thing is continuous as if it were one piece, though it really is not.
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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 07:39
Moatilliatta wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
OK, I listened to "And the Glass-Handed Kites", and unfortunately for you Mew fans I was not impressed at all. I found the album extremely heavy going and only very slightly related with prog. Consequently, Art Rock is out of the question - Prog-Related maybe, but I'd hesitate to put them there either. There have been too many controversial additions so far, and I'd rather concentrate on adding real prog bands - there are many that are still out of our database. |
You ought to listen to it a few more times. As many good albums, it takes more than a couple of listens to manifest it's greatness. You'll notice many more subtleties if you try a few more lsitens. There are a lot of polyrhythms, great atmospheres and harmonies, and the whole thing is continuous as if it were one piece, though it really is not. |
Yes there is, but not so much, or so comprehensively. It isn't progressive, but has some progressiviness. So to Prog-Related, maybe.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 00:41
Just answered a mail from the Band Submission Team after listening carefully their "masterpiece" "Mew and the Glass Handed Kites.
I'm not inpressed at all, I can't find a Prog connection, not even to Prog Related, they don't even sound original, several alternative bands have done a lot of the same before with less POP elements.
IMHO they are less Prog Related than Coldplay who are not Prog Related. I agree with Raffaella, not by dream Art Rock, but I would be more radical, neither in Prog Related without any doubt
Sorry but I have to say what I believe, not trying to be rude, but I'm used to say the things I believe clearly, I'm too old to change. 
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Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 01:11
Having only heard And the Glass Handed Kites, I see parallels between Mew and Radiohead, Muse, Dredg, Pure Reason Revolution, and others.
I definitely understand the gut reaction upon hearing the album of saying "They're not prog, or even prog-related!"
However, if you give it a chance, I think the similarities to the bands I mentioned become apparent. Also, there's sometimes an interesting use of rhythm variation within songs.
I think an inclusion in prog-related is justified. If not now, then certainly if their next album sounds similar (or more "proggy") than ATGHK, there's a strong argument to bring them on board.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 02:02
enteredwinter wrote:
Having only heard And the Glass Handed Kites, I see parallels between Mew and Radiohead, Muse, Dredg, Pure Reason Revolution, and others.
I definitely understand the gut reaction upon hearing the album of saying "They're not prog, or even prog-related!"
However, if you give it a chance, I think the similarities to the bands I mentioned become apparent. Also, there's sometimes an interesting use of rhythm variation within songs.
I think an inclusion in prog-related is justified. If not now, then certainly if their next album sounds similar (or more "proggy") than ATGHK, there's a strong argument to bring them on board.
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No enteredwinte it's not a gut reaction, I have nothing against them, it''s a cold, thought and analyzed opinion after almost a month of receiving a mail consulting about them from the Prog Submission Team.
IMO they are not Prog or even Prog Related, they are a Pop/Alternative/Indie band, maybe good, maybe not so good, that's not the issue....The point is that we are in Prog Archives,. not in Alterative Archives, this is a place for Prog bands (Great, good, average and bad), not for Alternative bands no matter how great they may be.
There's a Radiohead influence in MEW, but being honest, most Alternative/Indie bands sound similar in higher or lesser degree to Radiohead because Radiohead has an alternative component apart from their Prog sound so there's the connection.
Pure Reason Revolution is a different thing, they have a Space Rock connection that MEW doesn't remotely has. About Muse.....Being inspired in a Prog Related band, hardly justifies an inclusion.
Radiohead, Pure Reason Revolution and even Muse are here to stay but I believe it's a mistake to accept a band because it's similar to other bands, specially when one of them caused controversy when added and another is in Prog Related.
Each band must be qualified exclusively for what they are and MEW is Alternative/Indie/POP band, nothing less, nothing more.
The mail I received includes a well informed bio that states:
MEW play a very original mixture indie, dreampop and progressive rock - a dreamprog band! They started off with inspiration from boundry searching guitar bands such as MY BlOODY VALENTINE, DINOSAUR JUNIOR and even got a strong streak for pop from artists such as PET SHOP BOYS and PRINCE. But they also had some inspiration from old school progressive rock such as YES, GENESIS and even GENTLE GIANT and KING CRIMSON (???)- just to mention the most famous. |
Red interrogation signs added by me.
I can't find a single reference to Yes, Genesis or Gentle Giant, much less from King Crimson, but the POP sound is more than clear and the alternative/Indie is more than evident.
I believe the reference to the 70's Prog bands is an argument for their inclusion but honestly, I could search for years and this can't be found, neither elements from 80's, 90's or 00's Prog at all.
Now, you're right when you say there's a chance in their next album, but they will have to do something at least remotely close to Prog Related to be even considered in my humble opinion.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 13:36
They are definitely more Prog than Muse in my opinion, so take Muse out if Mew are being left out.
Muse may have some virtuoso-ish piano interludes here and there, but
other than that their music is pretty straight forward, not very Prog
at all in my opinion (still I love them to bits, but that's another
issue). How many times have you actually listened to And the Glass
Handed Kites, and how carefully?
This thread is a good example of why Prog Related is such a silly
category. We can never agree on what it takes to get included in it.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 01 2007 at 13:41
We can never agree because this is art, not a hard science. Everyone seems to have their own perception of what is prog and what isn't - and this will never, ever change because the 'prog quotient' of a band or artist cannot be quantified.
As to the silliness of Prog-Related... It may very well be, but we have tried (in vain, or so it seems) to drive home the point that it exists for a very good reason - the owners want it. Therefore, I suggest all the people who disagree with its existence write a letter to the owners in order to ask them to abolish PR. None of us can do anything about it but try to avoid preposterous additions.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 02 2007 at 02:36
Phileas wrote:
Muse may have some virtuoso-ish piano interludes here and there, but other than that their music is pretty straight forward, not very Prog at all in my opinion (still I love them to bits, but that's another issue). How many times have you actually listened to And the Glass Handed Kites, and how carefully?
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I received the mail from the Prog Submission Team January 5 and replied it yesterday after 21 days, because I got the album almost inmediately and took my time to listen it, when I assume a responsability I take it seriously, last Sunday I added Er. J. Orchestra to Prog Related after a month of posting it and a three pages thread in the Collaborators section, that's the way I like to act.
Phileas wrote:
They are definitely more Prog than Muse in my opinion, so take Muse out if Mew are being left out. |
Please Phileas, we don't work like that, Myuse is here to stay, I don't know if it's right or if it's wrong, I care so little about them that haven't even listened them seriously, but even if their addition is a mistake, this doesn't justify making another mistake.
We are discussing MEW and my opinion about them is that they are not Prog, as simple as that, Muse is something from the past.
Ghost Rider wrote:
We can never agree because this is art, not a hard science. Everyone seems to have their own perception of what is prog and what isn't - and this will never, ever change because the 'prog quotient' of a band or artist cannot be quantified. |
That'ds the point Raf, you can remember that despite everybody (Or almost everybody) agreed King Crimson is not a Symphonic band, we still had people more comfortable with the status quo and leaving them there.
We will never agree in everything, that's the fate of artistic expression.
BTW: I believe Prog Related is necesary as the link between mainstream and Prog but we have to be exclusive and not inclusive, if we doubt, leave them away...In the case of MEW I don't have a doubt, they aren't Prog or Prog Related IMHO.
Iván
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Posted By: Progger58
Date Posted: June 07 2007 at 19:28
Hey, another huge fan of this great Danish band here!!
Just my personal opinion: I think that MEW are more progressive than DREDG, for example, a band that is listed here at PA. That said, I also love Dredg. 
Cheers,
Demetrio.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: June 09 2007 at 16:30
I stand by my opinion that Mew ought to be added in Prog Related. They
may not sound like 70's Prog, but they're quite progressive none the
less and more so than many bands already here, Muse is one example and dredg another. I can give more examples.
Regrettably the "more Prog/progressive than [...]" argument used in the previous post isn't
working, although it actually makes perfect sense and should be
regarded as a valid argument when discussing a possible band addition. It
seems as though the site tries to ignore their mistakes instead of dealing
with them, by pointing to a "we don't remove bands" policy that obviously causes more harm than it prevents. But if even the staff recognize certain additions as mistakes, what good
does it make to leave them on the site? And what good does it make
leaving bands more progressive and Proggy than the mistakes out?
I think it boils down to the older staff not seeing the Prog-ness
of Mew that many younger members see, because they won't really listen
to them as the sound is too "modern" or something, doesn't appeal to
them. Loads of prejudice on my part, I know, there are always
exceptions. But I still have a strong feeling that ignorance because of age is the problem here. The
counterarguments suggest this and it has even been admitted to a
certain extent. I'm confident there are others who agree with me on this point.
I haven't seen any really satisfying explanation to why Mew shouldn't
be added in Prog Related. "They're Pop/Alternative", "I don't hear Yes"
isn't enough. Those positive to inclusion have pointed out the
characteristics of Mew's music that ought to get them included in Prog Related, but
those against have only offered vague explanations like those I
presented above. If you want to convince me, point to characteristics
of Mew's music that are missing but needed to get them included. And
listen to their music thoroughly before doing so! As with most Prog,
one listen isn't enough.
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Posted By: Sofagrisen
Date Posted: July 12 2007 at 13:36
I basically agree with Philéas, although I would prefer Mew in Art Rock, but really, the most important thing is just for them to be added. Also I think the adding policy should be quite liberal. To see a band like Nightwish in here is just ridiculous though.
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Posted By: Sofagrisen
Date Posted: July 12 2007 at 13:37
I basically agree with Philéas, although I would prefer Mew in Art Rock, but really, the most important thing is just for them to be added. Also I think the adding policy should be quite liberal. To see a band like Nightwish in here is just ridiculous though.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 13:39
Wow, this discussion has been going on for more than a year now.
Surprisingly, Mew have not been added to the archives yet although they do exhibit many features typically asociated with prog in general (many of which are found in the Progarchives' own article defining prog rock), including odd time signatures, unusual BD-snare combinations even in the 3/4 and 4/4 parts, frequent use of non-standard chords, combination of visual arts and music, use of keyboards, poetic-style metaphor-ridden lyrics other than your average straightforward rock-pop type of lyrics, and a (relatively) unusual vocal style.
Sure, their compositions do typically not exceed 5 minutes of length, they don't contain any virtuous solos, and they do exhibit pop, indie and trad rock features as well. However, the they certainly are more prog-like, art-like and more sophisticated than many artists included here. I think no harm would be done in including Mew as prog related (if the thought of adding them under art rock is too scary for some of the prog rock old timers).
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 17:40
It's great to see more support for Mew's inclusion!
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 17:48
They do exhibit a sufficient number of the features listed in the above-mentioned article to be included, meiner meinung nach. Not including them seems almost kind of self-contradictory to me.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 18:05
Time Signature wrote:
They do exhibit a sufficient number of the features listed in the above-mentioned article to be included, meiner meinung nach. Not including them seems almost kind of self-contradictory to me. |
Exactly! 
You managed to pinpoint Mew's proggy features very well. If those who oppose the inclusion actually took time to examine the music carefully, they would find them, I'm sure.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 18:08
Have the Admins come to a conclusion on whether Mew should be added or not?
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 18:34
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 18:34
chamberry wrote:
Have the Admins come to a conclusion on whether Mew should be added or not?
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No conclusion yet, Ruben. Anyway, I put the issue for votation with the other Admins and I believe some news will be displayed asap. 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 18:35
Rember to actually listen to the music carefully before dismissing it as "just Pop" or something.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 18:37
Philéas wrote:
Rember to actually listen to the music carefully before dismissing it as "just Pop" or something. |
Cant' remember myself doing that... 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 18:38
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 19:29
The style of music they make has been done before (and better) twenty years ago by bands like Shelleyan Orphan and Miranda Sex Garden (both of whom at least had a more varied approach to instrumentation that Mew currently lack) - but there is just not enough in Mew's music for me to think of them as progressive or even prog-related.
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Posted By: Zodiak
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 17:11
Hmm... Difficult issue, really.
On one hand, comparing them to Muse and/or Radiohead is just ridiculous. Prog isn't only about complex time signatures and whatnot. Prog is something that's really deep inside, you feel it rather than KNOW it's prog because there's this, this, and that. Muse have that, especially on Black Holes And Revelations. Perfect MODERN new prog. I ain't saying they are King Crimson or whatever.
The problem is... And the point I'm trying to bring across... Muse, for example, are prog within. Mew are prog on the surface which isn't enough. I hope that makes sense. While Muse makes prog accesible and "poppy" (what a nasty word), Mew makes pop - prog. And that's the difference.
That's the thing that I feel is scaring off older prog fans who are against their addition. Mew are very much pop WITH prog and other bands are more or less prog WITH pop.
Though of course having listened to the new album and having seen them live, I have nothing to say against their addition to Prog-Related. I don't think it'd hurt the website. They are an interesting band. And with the last album they deserve to be in Prog-Related.
But of course not Art Rock by a mile. Let's keep Art Rock clean, because it's a very... "interesting" and subtle genre.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 17:15
damn.. .thought this was a kitty cat thread...
MEOW!!!

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 17:41
What kind of cat is that? Are they usually that big?
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 17:47
Vompatti wrote:
What kind of cat is that? Are they usually that big?
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It's a Maine Coon, an all-American breed - and yes, they can get as big as that, and even bigger. I saw one in Finland some years ago that looked like a miniature lynx!
Back IT, some months ago, when I was in charge of the AR Team, I listened to Mew's "And the Glass-Handed Kites" without being impressed overmuch. However, I freely admit to not being an expert of 'modern' prog, and I trust other people's judgment on the matter at hand. Unlike other people on this board, I realise that 'prog' is a subjective notion, not a sort of magic formula that can be applied to bands or artists in order to determine their suitability for this site.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 18:01
^ Oh. I think I've seen pictures of them but I didn't realize they can be so big.
As for Mew, I've never thought of them as a prog band.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 03:23
The Admin team have been discussing Mew, but a decision on them has been deferred.
We'll get back to you on it at a later date.
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Posted By: SoundscapeMN
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 19:11
this whole debate and the way this website is run is absolutely ridiculous. THEY ARE A GOOD BAND. WHO THE f**k CARES IF THEY DON'T SOUND "PROG" ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE??
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 19:23
SoundscapeMN wrote:
this whole debate and the way this website is run is absolutely ridiculous. THEY ARE A GOOD BAND. WHO THE f**k CARES IF THEY DON'T SOUND "PROG" ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE?? |
Then you don't need to be so worried about it or is there something else you'd like to share with us?
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:35
SoundscapeMN wrote:
this whole debate and the way this website is run is absolutely ridiculous. THEY ARE A GOOD BAND. WHO THE f**k CARES IF THEY DON'T SOUND "PROG" ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE?? |
Did you miss the word "Prog" in the name of the site?
Sorry you don't like the way the site is run. I'm sure there will be other sites you approve of, and who welcome such vindictive statements.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 13:46
I don't know if this is like a shot to the foot, but from a national perspective, Mew is probably one of the least mainstream and most pop/rock bands to come out of Denmark. Most other signed Danish pop/rock (if we ignore the underground Danish prog metal acts) acts are pretty conformist musically compared to Mew. In the perspective of the generally uninspiring and non-explorational Danish music industry, Mew are quite progressive.
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Posted By: Katatonius
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 15:47
I think "Mew" is an alter-prog music. I pronounce: I THINK it's prog enough to get place
on this page.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 09:35
So, what's the status?
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 09:42
wow.. .this is a blast from the past
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 11:00
I don't think they belong here. There are some nice and PROGRESSIVELY THINKING bands from Indie camp like MEW and YOURCODENAMEIS:MILO, but they're NOT Prog. Top-notch Indie, but not Prog yet
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 11:03
I am going to kick this to Xover to look at... Xover did not exist when Mew was last looked at.. and more importantly... Dean was not really a member. Want him to have a say...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2008 at 16:38
Xover looked at... and declines....
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2008 at 16:39
SoundscapeMN wrote:
this whole debate and the way this website is run is absolutely ridiculous. THEY ARE A GOOD BAND. WHO THE f**k CARES IF THEY DON'T SOUND "PROG" ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE??
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hahahha.. an old post I know... but .. hahahhahah... that deserves a special Micky spotlight.. shear PA's posting briliance there.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 19 2008 at 22:36
I'm kinda surprised they got declined again...I don't see why they aren't progressive enough for the site.
Is prog-related still a possiblity?
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: May 20 2008 at 00:52
I love love love this band, but I don't think they have any place here.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 20 2008 at 15:54
Moatilliatta wrote:
I'm kinda surprised they got declined again...I don't see why they aren't progressive enough for the site.
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I'm sure it is... but probably not exactly a high priority ... they are too busy cleaning up messes around here and keepting the peace. PR is not a place for rejected bands... but for those who show prog's influences.. and are usually 'big name' groups.. not those who simply were not judged prog enough to make the 'cut' here.
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