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Topic: Dream Theater vs Tool
Posted By: magellan_head
Subject: Dream Theater vs Tool
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 07:01
Best band  ? Smile



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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 07:10
Dream Theater for the music
Tool for the better ambiances...


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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 07:10
Dream Theater with no doubt, Tool is very good too. But I like Dream Theater more than Tool


Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 07:16
do u really have to ask?? eheheh.. DT for me..

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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 08:25
DT no question

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Posted By: crucify_the_ego
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 08:31
Tool, by a million miles. Dream Theater have emotionally disengaged lyrics and a singer with an annoying voice. So what if they display blatant virtuosity in vevery? Tool have more intereresting compositions, a more innovative style, and musicians who are prepared to shelve their egos to serve the music.


Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 08:39
Tool by far

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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 09:09
I have a feeling this thread will take an ominus turn...
 
Dream Theater


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 09:36
Tool.They're great.That's it


Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 09:40
Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

I have a feeling this thread will take an ominus turn...
 
Dream Theater
 
lol thats what i think.. but i still support DT!! Shocked


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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 09:54

Dream Theater> Tool...

both are great



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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 10:01
I voted for Tool because they're more original. but I'd vote for Meshuggah over both of 'em in a second.


Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 10:39
I prefer Dream Theater but I like Tool just not the same way Smile


Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 10:46
Damn... this is a hard one.. both bands are mind-blowing...
But I just have to vote DT because they made me love prog metal as a whole...


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 11:09
DT


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 11:34
As much as I love both, Dream Theater has been one of my long-standing favorites, and I would still take them over almost any band.

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 11:48
Dream Theater.

I enjoy Tool, but don't share the level of enthusiam for them as some others on this forum.


Posted By: Progdrummer05
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 11:55

Well this is a hard decision since i'm such a huge fan of both bands but ya can't ever forget your first love.  Sorry Tool but Dream Theater all the way.



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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 12:22
Dream Theater for me. They essentially pioneered and popularized prog metal. Tool are a little too alternative metalish for me taste.
EDIT: Ironically, I love James Labrie's voice, but don't like Maynard James Keenan.


Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 12:27
Well as usual I have to vote Dream Theater.  Tool makes excellent music, but as unique as it is it fails to have the degree of variation a band like Dream Theater has.

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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 12:45
Dream Theater by far ... Clap


Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 12:56
D
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It's not quite as effective to letter that one vertically.


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 13:18
I'd have to say DT, as they got me into prog in the first place!

However, Tool is becoming one of my top bands these days. Its just....all their stuff seems to have the same feel to it *albeit an awesome one* whereas DT's sound changes throughout their career more. Not that Tool's doesnt, just not to as drastic a degree. However, props to Tool for the whole Fibonacci thing on Lateralus


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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 13:34
I dont know id DT is better than Tool, what im sure is that i prefer DT much more than Tool

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Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:25
In spite of preferences and subjective demeanours to aid in selection, the thread inquires over the best, thus I'd figure it's an overall array of qualities both bands offer to conflict, rather than personal affinities. It's somewhat disturbing to compare the two bands, since there are strikingly distinct styles displayed from each (infact, there would be a manifest difference with whichever band co-starred with Tool, in such comparison, taking their work is absolutely unique to a degree of unimaginable emulation), nevertheless, Tool are known to extend their potential, almost chronologically, with each album released, as not only is an egregiously recognised, artful creation (perhaps, not as much or as noticeable as Dream Theater) surmounting the previous' creative facade (controversial to consider Lateralus and 10,000 Days), as it draws a consistent identidy for musicianship brilliance, together with its infamously sullen ambience, ever so clamoured for fan's ears. An impressive overlapping of very good (but not deifyed) technical skill to recreate nearly legend-worthy masterpieces. Facing the proportional ratius of creativity to technique, Dream Theater may not level Tool in its evolutionary growth, yet they don't fall much behind such line; also, Dream Theater doesn't really fail to deliver progressively ripe affairs of qualitative ascendence, throughout time, as each album eludes unoriginal echoes of anterior accomplishments to conspicuously acknowledged themes, coherent with the band's main essence. Regardless of infamous reluctance to aception and obcessive consumption, DT construct an alternate poise of structural/creative excellence for their work, aside from the mainstream proximities their legions of fans might indulge to surmise (in exception for what has happened in Falling Into Infinity, which was contradictory to the band's will, and Octavarium, which I cannot yet explain) - the sound adheres to both prog and metal influences, along with favouring of people's respective tendencies of metal, overwhelmed by what progressive rock yields the tone of, thus its popularity, and after all: they ARE enlisted under the progressive metal category. Nourishing the praise, stands each member's adroit supremacy in the manipulated instrument, technically surpassing any musician from Tool (voice isn't encompassed among the axiom - Maynard is better than LaBrie, in my opinion), and what others unfortunately deem as a gargantuan ego of some sort to display and optimize their capacities, I see not as an obstruction to mellifluous/audible/cohese streams of music (as was defined before, amongst the text), but a realistic conception of virtuosism, wielded in sheerly laudative flair - if one is able to do so without compromising an efficacious flux, why not reach a maximum skill drawn from talent and evolve, breaching limits that bind the being, itself? Anyhow, the truth really looms as an opinion, since we are all subjected to our senses, no matter how objective, and I voted for Dream Theater (in spite of how obvious it is)...oh, and, by the way: "Sorry for the short set".


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:28
Tool all the way.
DT's vocals make them cheesy


Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:29
Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

In spite of preferences and subjective demeanours to aid in selection, the thread inquires over the best, thus I'd figure it's an overall array of qualities both bands offer to conflict, rather than personal affinities. It's somewhat disturbing to compare the two bands, since there are strikingly distinct styles displayed from each (infact, there would be a manifest difference with whichever band co-starred with Tool, in such comparison, taking their work is absolutely unique to a degree of unimaginable emulation), nevertheless, Tool are known to extend their potential, almost chronologically, with each album released, as not only is an egregiously recognised, artful creation (perhaps, not as much or as noticeable as Dream Theater) surmounting the previous' creative facade (controversial to consider Lateralus and 10,000 Days), as it draws a consistent identidy for musicianship brilliance, together with its infamously sullen ambience, ever so clamoured for fan's ears. An impressive overlapping of very good (but not deifyed) technical skill to recreate nearly legend-worthy masterpieces. Facing the proportional ratius of creativity to technique, Dream Theater may not level Tool in its evolutionary growth, yet they don't fall much behind such line; also, Dream Theater doesn't really fail to deliver progressively ripe affairs of qualitative ascendence, throughout time, as each album eludes unoriginal echoes of anterior accomplishments to conspicuously acknowledged themes, coherent with the band's main essence. Regardless of infamous reluctance to aception and obcessive consumption, DT construct an alternate poise of structural/creative excellence for their work, aside from the mainstream proximities their legions of fans might indulge to surmise (in exception for what has happened in Falling Into Infinity, which was contradictory to the band's will, and Octavarium, which I cannot yet explain) - the sound adheres to both prog and metal influences, along with favouring of people's respective tendencies of metal, overwhelmed by what progressive rock yields the tone of, thus its popularity, and after all: they ARE enlisted under the progressive metal category. Nourishing the praise, stands each member's adroit supremacy in the manipulated instrument, technically surpassing any musician from Tool (voice isn't encompassed among the axiom - Maynard is better than LaBrie, in my opinion), and what others unfortunately deem as a gargantuan ego of some sort to display and optimize their capacities, I see not as an obstruction to mellifluous/audible/cohese streams of music (as was defined before, amongst the text), but a realistic conception of virtuosism, wielded in sheerly laudative flair - if one is able to do so without compromising an efficacious flux, why not reach a maximum skill drawn from talent and evolve, breaching limits that bind the being, itself? Anyhow, the truth really looms as an opinion, since we are all subjected to our senses, no matter how objective, and I voted for Dream Theater (in spite of how obvious it is)...oh, and, by the way: "Sorry for the short set".

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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 14:49
Dream theater, they are more melodic than Tool. Scenes from metropolis is  quit good. I don't dislike Tool, i heard Lateralus several times and it doesn't annoy me.I just have a hard time remembering the melodies from the album once it is finished. I'll probably give it another try in due time.


Posted By: GuilhermeDrigo
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 15:56
Tool is excelent and so is Dream Theater
i can't see a way to compare them but i stay with Dream Theater
because of their musicians


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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:04
None of them is even close to my favourites, but Tool by far.
 
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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:08
DT by far IMO.


Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:33

i like all Tool albums, and only two of DT, so my vote goes for Tool.



Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:34
I like both but I find Tool more monotonous and less surprising, less varied, less dynamic than Dream Theater.


Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:35
Well since I find Tool to be a knockoff of so many other bands that have come out in the past 17-18 years I'm going to have to go with Dream Theater. A band that can hold my attention for more then 90 seconds.


Posted By: Serguilloche
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:38
Dream Theater without a doubt, there is no contest.

Greater songs, more entertaining musicians.

Tool are just really annoying, I feel like punching that poseur who sings for them.




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Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 18:35

While I'm not a huge fan of Tool, I do enjoy them on occasion and I've been really enjoying the new release lately, whereas with Dream Theater I can only stand one album in full--the others are complete and utter cheese for the ears (in my opinion). SO, therefore I'm going to vot Tool, and I would each and every following day.



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Posted By: xtopher
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 19:05
I vote Dream Theater. I don't know what it is, but Tool just kind of seems to bore me. Perhaps they don't seem versatile enough for my tastes. On the other hand, versatility is something Dream Theater has in spades. Not to knock those who voted for Tool, though.


Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 19:52
From a emotional, personal connection standpoint DT by a landmile, since I got all their studio albums (except the useless cover albums) and saw them live two times. But I have to say Tool impress me always with their experimental, innovative sound. They are IMO the new King Crimson of the 21st century. Forget the stupid nu-metal comparisons, these are dull coments by some one-dimensional purists with no sensibilitys for innovations. My vote goes to DT though.

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 20:00
Haven't heard much Tool (only Lateralus, which I find excellent) But I think DT is great, but I have to hear more Tool before I decide.

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Posted By: coffeeintheface
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 20:35
Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

In spite of preferences and subjective demeanours to aid in selection, the thread inquires over the best, thus I'd figure it's an overall array of qualities both bands offer to conflict, rather than personal affinities. It's somewhat disturbing to compare the two bands, since there are strikingly distinct styles displayed from each (infact, there would be a manifest difference with whichever band co-starred with Tool, in such comparison, taking their work is absolutely unique to a degree of unimaginable emulation), nevertheless, Tool are known to extend their potential, almost chronologically, with each album released, as not only is an egregiously recognised, artful creation (perhaps, not as much or as noticeable as Dream Theater) surmounting the previous' creative facade (controversial to consider Lateralus and 10,000 Days), as it draws a consistent identidy for musicianship brilliance, together with its infamously sullen ambience, ever so clamoured for fan's ears. An impressive overlapping of very good (but not deifyed) technical skill to recreate nearly legend-worthy masterpieces. Facing the proportional ratius of creativity to technique, Dream Theater may not level Tool in its evolutionary growth, yet they don't fall much behind such line; also, Dream Theater doesn't really fail to deliver progressively ripe affairs of qualitative ascendence, throughout time, as each album eludes unoriginal echoes of anterior accomplishments to conspicuously acknowledged themes, coherent with the band's main essence. Regardless of infamous reluctance to aception and obcessive consumption, DT construct an alternate poise of structural/creative excellence for their work, aside from the mainstream proximities their legions of fans might indulge to surmise (in exception for what has happened in Falling Into Infinity, which was contradictory to the band's will, and Octavarium, which I cannot yet explain) - the sound adheres to both prog and metal influences, along with favouring of people's respective tendencies of metal, overwhelmed by what progressive rock yields the tone of, thus its popularity, and after all: they ARE enlisted under the progressive metal category. Nourishing the praise, stands each member's adroit supremacy in the manipulated instrument, technically surpassing any musician from Tool (voice isn't encompassed among the axiom - Maynard is better than LaBrie, in my opinion), and what others unfortunately deem as a gargantuan ego of some sort to display and optimize their capacities, I see not as an obstruction to mellifluous/audible/cohese streams of music (as was defined before, amongst the text), but a realistic conception of virtuosism, wielded in sheerly laudative flair - if one is able to do so without compromising an efficacious flux, why not reach a maximum skill drawn from talent and evolve, breaching limits that bind the being, itself? Anyhow, the truth really looms as an opinion, since we are all subjected to our senses, no matter how objective, and I voted for Dream Theater (in spite of how obvious it is)...oh, and, by the way: "Sorry for the short set".


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Posted By: fezman
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 21:26
Too much grandstanding in the musicianship dept for me with DT.
The better band IS TOOL!


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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 21:28
Tool - because their music is constantly progressing in a positive way

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 23:38
DT = one of my favorite bands ever... I still like Tool a lot thoughSmile

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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 23:41
tool
never dissapoints me
DT umm  I walk beside youDead


Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 01:23
TOOL

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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 02:41
I have not heard much Tool, bot I don't think that these bands have a lot in common.


Posted By: Crazybreadhorse
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 03:03

I'm not a big Tool fan, but I've heard a bit of them, and although they are pretty good, they aren't even close to DT in my opinion.



Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 05:30
Originally posted by Serguilloche Serguilloche wrote:

Dream Theater without a doubt, there is no contest.

Greater songs, more entertaining musicians.

Tool are just really annoying, I feel like punching that poseur who sings for them.




To consider your value for entertainment, in remonstrance for quality, within progressive bands' appreciation, I think the so-called "poseur" - whose identidy, uniquely imbedded with the group's coexistence, probably gets you off since he fails to appeal to what casts appreciation in his divergence from the average spectacle (rumours tend to imply his name is Maynard James Keenan), - wouldn't be the only one to reciprocate your thought, as even DT or any other valuable musician would come to advert/punchback about how he/she's quality isn't measured through the category of "circus artistry", hyperbolicly speaking. Perhaps I'm cathing an erroneous conception of your phrases' intention and I apologize if so, but that exuded barren views of musical importance, since, beyond your egregious subjectivity to define Tool, their originally crafted countenance, of consistently unwavering "artistic" integrity, defies premature auditions for the precociously critic ear, as to see what lies beneath more than meets the eye takes auditive sensibility and patiently placid sagacity, not just an overwhelmed feel contracted upon hearing instruments reach their highest grounds of impressive skill, which, although might prove useful in a guitar-virtuoso band, isn't sufficient towards prog or any less conspicuous flairs, in rock itself.


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Posted By: Darshan
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 05:40
I really think the 2 of them are totally different, in essence, in approach to what they express musicaly and emotionaly. However i have a personal preference for DT but that answer would probably be different in a month or 2.


Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 05:45
Tool.


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 10:38
Tool


Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 10:59
hmmm I notice a trend here , people who like Dream Theater keep their opinions simple and straight to the point , but people who prefer Tool make negative remarks about dream theater to "try" and justify their point ... this I find interesting Tongue


Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 11:03
Originally posted by magellan_head magellan_head wrote:

Best band  ? Smile


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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 11:11
Dream Theater

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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 11:35
I am not a DT fan at all, but must admit that they are much (millions miles or tons or whatever) better than Tool. Maybe I do not like Tool?
 
 


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 12:14
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

hmmm I notice a trend here , people who like Dream Theater keep their opinions simple and straight to the point , but people who prefer Tool make negative remarks about dream theater to "try" and justify their point ... this I find interesting Tongue
 
Just like you try to constantly bait Tool fans..........


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 16:47
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

hmmm I notice a trend here , people who like Dream Theater keep their opinions simple and straight to the point , but people who prefer Tool make negative remarks about dream theater to "try" and justify their point ... this I find interesting Tongue

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Posted By: Dantallion
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 18:14
   Tool.
   I like the Harder, edgeier, darker side of their music.
   I don't care for D.T.'s vocalist.


Posted By: Fraja
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 04:18
Tool=Brain Music


Posted By: Faaip_De_Oiad
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 04:53
Tool by a looong shot!
I choose Emotion, and True Feeling over Instrumental godness. (Even though Danny Carey is a far more talented drummer then mike portnoy).

I really do like DT i listen to them all the time. But i cant remember the last time they gave me goosebumps, or made me cry. Unlike Tool. Which leave me feeling i can't explain. but it's the best feeling in the world!


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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 13:02

Dream Theater with no doubt, but Tool is great too



Posted By: UnknownFlow
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:32
Tool, have more depth to their songs in my opinion. Vote to them, although Dream Theater are great also.


Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 23:16
DT!
 
BUT TOOL IS COOL!!...


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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 23:51
Originally posted by UnknownFlow UnknownFlow wrote:

Tool, have more depth to their songs in my opinion. Vote to them, although Dream Theater are great also.
 
I beg to differ, has Tool done anything that matches the depth of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Besides Itself, or A Change of Seasons.  Dream Theater is the much much more versitile band.  Dream Theater plays with more speed, but also plays very controlled songs like Disappear and Misunderstood.  Tool doens't have the ability to put togethor something like Space Dye Vest either.  All in all, Tool can't match Dream Theater when it comes to depth. 


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Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 15:33
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by UnknownFlow UnknownFlow wrote:

Tool, have more depth to their songs in my opinion. Vote to them, although Dream Theater are great also.
 
I beg to differ, has Tool done anything that matches the depth of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Besides Itself, or A Change of Seasons.  Dream Theater is the much much more versitile band.  Dream Theater plays with more speed, but also plays very controlled songs like Disappear and Misunderstood.  Tool doens't have the ability to put togethor something like Space Dye Vest either.  All in all, Tool can't match Dream Theater when it comes to depth. 



Sorry to break the enthusiasm from a fellow Dream Theater fan, but Tool can and do match Dream Theater in depth - even perhaps surpass them, considering Lateralus (the album). Although, DT are conspicuously supple, in their creations, in which Tool may not detain such quality at DT's level (but let us not disregard the number of albums each band has made throughout their career); and, yes, DT overlap Tool in technique (aside, maybe, from Maynard, as I've already said so) - which isn't related to speed as any other person might withdraw, in confusion, from the post -, but Tool are one of the most creative band ever witnessed performing brilliantly adroit music in artfully genius structures and conceptual originality, of which even Dream Theater aren't capable of emulating, unabridgedly, with the epics not so frequently portrayed from Tool. Also, mentioning tracks like Space Dye Vest and Disappear, you are intruding Tool's marked territory of excellence's habitat, whitin pusillanimously ghastly tracks of of somber shades, tinged in tints of "darkness".


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Posted By: Mr. Krinkle
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 18:44
i choose Tool,  dislike dream theater

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Posted By: int_2375
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 23:47
Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

Originally posted by Serguilloche Serguilloche wrote:

Dream Theater without a doubt, there is no contest.

Greater songs, more entertaining musicians.

Tool are just really annoying, I feel like punching that poseur who sings for them.




To consider your value for entertainment, in remonstrance for quality, within progressive bands' appreciation, I think the so-called "poseur" - whose identidy, uniquely imbedded with the group's coexistence, probably gets you off since he fails to appeal to what casts appreciation in his divergence from the average spectacle (rumours tend to imply his name is Maynard James Keenan), - wouldn't be the only one to reciprocate your thought, as even DT or any other valuable musician would come to advert/punchback about how he/she's quality isn't measured through the category of "circus artistry", hyperbolicly speaking. Perhaps I'm cathing an erroneous conception of your phrases' intention and I apologize if so, but that exuded barren views of musical importance, since, beyond your egregious subjectivity to define Tool, their originally crafted countenance, of consistently unwavering "artistic" integrity, defies premature auditions for the precociously critic ear, as to see what lies beneath more than meets the eye takes auditive sensibility and patiently placid sagacity, not just an overwhelmed feel contracted upon hearing instruments reach their highest grounds of impressive skill, which, although might prove useful in a guitar-virtuoso band, isn't sufficient towards prog or any less conspicuous flairs, in rock itself.
 
Jesus, man.  Thats what I'd call thesaurus-syndrome.  In your attempt to sound intelligent you made yourself sound like an idiot.  I hope your English teacher doesn't give you good grades for that crap.  There's a reason famous authors don't write like that.
 
Anyway I voted for Tool.  I think they have far more depth and could care less what anyone else thinks.


Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 05:08
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

I beg to differ, has Tool done anything that matches the depth of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Besides Itself, or A Change of Seasons.  Dream Theater is the much much more versitile band.  Dream Theater plays with more speed, but also plays very controlled songs like Disappear and Misunderstood.  Tool doens't have the ability to put togethor something like Space Dye Vest either.  All in all, Tool can't match Dream Theater when it comes to depth.
maybe, but tool's songs come off with a lot less 'cheese', maybe that is what he is trying to say

two entirely different bands imo, and i see no reason to compare them actually

edit: ew what the hell is up with quoting




Posted By: Serguilloche
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 09:22
Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

Originally posted by Serguilloche Serguilloche wrote:

Dream Theater without a doubt, there is no contest.

Greater songs, more entertaining musicians.

Tool are just really annoying, I feel like punching that poseur who sings for them.




To consider your value for entertainment, in remonstrance for quality, within progressive bands' appreciation, I think the so-called "poseur" - whose identidy, uniquely imbedded with the group's coexistence, probably gets you off since he fails to appeal to what casts appreciation in his divergence from the average spectacle (rumours tend to imply his name is Maynard James Keenan), - wouldn't be the only one to reciprocate your thought, as even DT or any other valuable musician would come to advert/punchback about how he/she's quality isn't measured through the category of "circus artistry", hyperbolicly speaking. Perhaps I'm cathing an erroneous conception of your phrases' intention and I apologize if so, but that exuded barren views of musical importance, since, beyond your egregious subjectivity to define Tool, their originally crafted countenance, of consistently unwavering "artistic" integrity, defies premature auditions for the precociously critic ear, as to see what lies beneath more than meets the eye takes auditive sensibility and patiently placid sagacity, not just an overwhelmed feel contracted upon hearing instruments reach their highest grounds of impressive skill, which, although might prove useful in a guitar-virtuoso band, isn't sufficient towards prog or any less conspicuous flairs, in rock itself.


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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 09:40
I have too be honest, never was much of a Tool fan.

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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 13:38
Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by UnknownFlow UnknownFlow wrote:

Tool, have more depth to their songs in my opinion. Vote to them, although Dream Theater are great also.
 
I beg to differ, has Tool done anything that matches the depth of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Besides Itself, or A Change of Seasons.  Dream Theater is the much much more versitile band.  Dream Theater plays with more speed, but also plays very controlled songs like Disappear and Misunderstood.  Tool doens't have the ability to put togethor something like Space Dye Vest either.  All in all, Tool can't match Dream Theater when it comes to depth. 



Sorry to break the enthusiasm from a fellow Dream Theater fan, but Tool can and do match Dream Theater in depth - even perhaps surpass them, considering Lateralus (the album). Although, DT are conspicuously supple, in their creations, in which Tool may not detain such quality at DT's level (but let us not disregard the number of albums each band has made throughout their career); and, yes, DT overlap Tool in technique (aside, maybe, from Maynard, as I've already said so) - which isn't related to speed as any other person might withdraw, in confusion, from the post -, but Tool are one of the most creative band ever witnessed performing brilliantly adroit music in artfully genius structures and conceptual originality, of which even Dream Theater aren't capable of emulating, unabridgedly, with the epics not so frequently portrayed from Tool. Also, mentioning tracks like Space Dye Vest and Disappear, you are intruding Tool's marked territory of excellence's habitat, whitin pusillanimously ghastly tracks of of somber shades, tinged in tints of "darkness".
 
Well, allow me to retort.
 
While analyzing the creative abilities of the two subjects, it seems apparent that Dream Theater surpasses Tool in musical technique.  Therefore, Dream Theater has the ability to manipulate music in ways Tool cannot.  Tool is quite unique when compared to others, but compared to themselves Tool fails excel.  Tool's two most acclaimed albums, Aenima and Lateralus show not an increase in creativity, but a decrease.  First off, the two albums reflect each other.  Tool's use of original techniques, are consistently emulated throughout both albums.  The opposition (Dream Theater) consistently creates new and different matierial.  Dream Theater do not emulate previous techniques with such consistency as Tool does.  How can a band be considered to have more depth when they consistenly emulate their catalogue and the opposition does not.
 
In other words, what I'm saying is Tool is a creative band, but they never get any better or create anything different.  Aenima and Lateralus borrow a lot of the same musical techniques and hold the same consistent atmosphere.  Even 10,000 Days sounds more like previous albums.
 
Dream Theater on the other hand have consistenly produced albums different from previous works.  Dream Theater always breaks new ground.


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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 13:52
obviously the Theater


Posted By: int_2375
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 21:05
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by UnknownFlow UnknownFlow wrote:

Tool, have more depth to their songs in my opinion. Vote to them, although Dream Theater are great also.
 
I beg to differ, has Tool done anything that matches the depth of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Besides Itself, or A Change of Seasons.  Dream Theater is the much much more versitile band.  Dream Theater plays with more speed, but also plays very controlled songs like Disappear and Misunderstood.  Tool doens't have the ability to put togethor something like Space Dye Vest either.  All in all, Tool can't match Dream Theater when it comes to depth. 



Sorry to break the enthusiasm from a fellow Dream Theater fan, but Tool can and do match Dream Theater in depth - even perhaps surpass them, considering Lateralus (the album). Although, DT are conspicuously supple, in their creations, in which Tool may not detain such quality at DT's level (but let us not disregard the number of albums each band has made throughout their career); and, yes, DT overlap Tool in technique (aside, maybe, from Maynard, as I've already said so) - which isn't related to speed as any other person might withdraw, in confusion, from the post -, but Tool are one of the most creative band ever witnessed performing brilliantly adroit music in artfully genius structures and conceptual originality, of which even Dream Theater aren't capable of emulating, unabridgedly, with the epics not so frequently portrayed from Tool. Also, mentioning tracks like Space Dye Vest and Disappear, you are intruding Tool's marked territory of excellence's habitat, whitin pusillanimously ghastly tracks of of somber shades, tinged in tints of "darkness".
 
Well, allow me to retort.
 
While analyzing the creative abilities of the two subjects, it seems apparent that Dream Theater surpasses Tool in musical technique.  Therefore, Dream Theater has the ability to manipulate music in ways Tool cannot.  Tool is quite unique when compared to others, but compared to themselves Tool fails excel.  Tool's two most acclaimed albums, Aenima and Lateralus show not an increase in creativity, but a decrease.  First off, the two albums reflect each other.  Tool's use of original techniques, are consistently emulated throughout both albums.  The opposition (Dream Theater) consistently creates new and different matierial.  Dream Theater do not emulate previous techniques with such consistency as Tool does.  How can a band be considered to have more depth when they consistenly emulate their catalogue and the opposition does not.
 
In other words, what I'm saying is Tool is a creative band, but they never get any better or create anything different.  Aenima and Lateralus borrow a lot of the same musical techniques and hold the same consistent atmosphere.  Even 10,000 Days sounds more like previous albums.
 
Dream Theater on the other hand have consistenly produced albums different from previous works.  Dream Theater always breaks new ground.
 
I don't think you have anything to back that up.  You're going to need to cite some specific examples. 
 
How has James Labrie done anything to innovate over the albums?  He uses the same melodramatic wail in every song.  Maynard mainly used a throaty growl on Undertow, now look what he's done on songs like The Grudge, Vicarious, The Pot, Rosetta Stoned, and especially Ticks and Leeches.
 
How about Portnoy?  What's he done to significantly change their sound?  Danny Carey used electronic drums, bells, the Mandala pad, and SE cymbals on the new album alone.  On Lateralus he began to use more complex polyrhythms, tabla, congo, and the wave drum.  Name something really unique that Portnoy has done on a DT song.  Carey's performance on Ticks and Leeches or Disposition/Reflectoini/Triad speak for themselves.
 
Give a listen to Justin Chancellor's fretless bass playing on Intension.  Now does that sound anything like his heavily distorted stuff on H?  Listen to Adam Jones on Wings for Marie/10,000 Days.  It sounds nothing like anything hes ever played before.
 
On to the songs as a whole.  Do you honestly think The Pot, or Wings for Marie sound like anything Tool's ever done?  They don't.  Each album is significantly different than the last.  Seriously, Tool wasn't playing slow, synth-drenched soundscapes before D/R/T, they filled out significantly on AEnima, and they are just completely different on 10,000 Days.  Do you honestly think Dream Theater has all that much new to put to music releasing an album every year?  Its always the same endlessly fast playing and soloing.  You say its always different, but you didn't give any examples.  As if I'm just supposed to take your word for it.  So what ground are they breaking?  Give me some specific examples.
 
Tell me exactly how Tool keeps emulating themselves, because I don't hear it.  While your at it, tell me what new techniques Dream Theater is using, because I don't hear that either.


Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 03:38
I'm sticking with DT on this one.
Mainly because of the fact that Tool hasn't grabbed my attention a single time, and I've tried to listen to them on numerous occassions. On the other hand, DT intrigued me from day one.

Finally an easy poll!


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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 13:32
Originally posted by int_2375 int_2375 wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by UnknownFlow UnknownFlow wrote:

Tool, have more depth to their songs in my opinion. Vote to them, although Dream Theater are great also.
 
I beg to differ, has Tool done anything that matches the depth of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, A Mind Besides Itself, or A Change of Seasons.  Dream Theater is the much much more versitile band.  Dream Theater plays with more speed, but also plays very controlled songs like Disappear and Misunderstood.  Tool doens't have the ability to put togethor something like Space Dye Vest either.  All in all, Tool can't match Dream Theater when it comes to depth. 



Sorry to break the enthusiasm from a fellow Dream Theater fan, but Tool can and do match Dream Theater in depth - even perhaps surpass them, considering Lateralus (the album). Although, DT are conspicuously supple, in their creations, in which Tool may not detain such quality at DT's level (but let us not disregard the number of albums each band has made throughout their career); and, yes, DT overlap Tool in technique (aside, maybe, from Maynard, as I've already said so) - which isn't related to speed as any other person might withdraw, in confusion, from the post -, but Tool are one of the most creative band ever witnessed performing brilliantly adroit music in artfully genius structures and conceptual originality, of which even Dream Theater aren't capable of emulating, unabridgedly, with the epics not so frequently portrayed from Tool. Also, mentioning tracks like Space Dye Vest and Disappear, you are intruding Tool's marked territory of excellence's habitat, whitin pusillanimously ghastly tracks of of somber shades, tinged in tints of "darkness".
 
Well, allow me to retort.
 
While analyzing the creative abilities of the two subjects, it seems apparent that Dream Theater surpasses Tool in musical technique.  Therefore, Dream Theater has the ability to manipulate music in ways Tool cannot.  Tool is quite unique when compared to others, but compared to themselves Tool fails excel.  Tool's two most acclaimed albums, Aenima and Lateralus show not an increase in creativity, but a decrease.  First off, the two albums reflect each other.  Tool's use of original techniques, are consistently emulated throughout both albums.  The opposition (Dream Theater) consistently creates new and different matierial.  Dream Theater do not emulate previous techniques with such consistency as Tool does.  How can a band be considered to have more depth when they consistenly emulate their catalogue and the opposition does not.
 
In other words, what I'm saying is Tool is a creative band, but they never get any better or create anything different.  Aenima and Lateralus borrow a lot of the same musical techniques and hold the same consistent atmosphere.  Even 10,000 Days sounds more like previous albums.
 
Dream Theater on the other hand have consistenly produced albums different from previous works.  Dream Theater always breaks new ground.
 
I don't think you have anything to back that up.  You're going to need to cite some specific examples. 
 
How has James Labrie done anything to innovate over the albums?  He uses the same melodramatic wail in every song.  Maynard mainly used a throaty growl on Undertow, now look what he's done on songs like The Grudge, Vicarious, The Pot, Rosetta Stoned, and especially Ticks and Leeches.
 
How about Portnoy?  What's he done to significantly change their sound?  Danny Carey used electronic drums, bells, the Mandala pad, and SE cymbals on the new album alone.  On Lateralus he began to use more complex polyrhythms, tabla, congo, and the wave drum.  Name something really unique that Portnoy has done on a DT song.  Carey's performance on Ticks and Leeches or Disposition/Reflectoini/Triad speak for themselves.
 
Give a listen to Justin Chancellor's fretless bass playing on Intension.  Now does that sound anything like his heavily distorted stuff on H?  Listen to Adam Jones on Wings for Marie/10,000 Days.  It sounds nothing like anything hes ever played before.
 
On to the songs as a whole.  Do you honestly think The Pot, or Wings for Marie sound like anything Tool's ever done?  They don't.  Each album is significantly different than the last.  Seriously, Tool wasn't playing slow, synth-drenched soundscapes before D/R/T, they filled out significantly on AEnima, and they are just completely different on 10,000 Days.  Do you honestly think Dream Theater has all that much new to put to music releasing an album every year?  Its always the same endlessly fast playing and soloing.  You say its always different, but you didn't give any examples.  As if I'm just supposed to take your word for it.  So what ground are they breaking?  Give me some specific examples.
 
Tell me exactly how Tool keeps emulating themselves, because I don't hear it.  While your at it, tell me what new techniques Dream Theater is using, because I don't hear that either.
 
What has James LaBrie done, I think it's more amusing to speak about what Dream Theater has done vocally throughout their eight studio albums.  Charlie Dominci had a Billy Joel type tone to his vocals on the When Dream and Day Unite debut, they then found James LaBrie before Images and Words which added a much more operatic element vocally.  Images and Words has higher pitched vocals and richer harmonies than most DT albums.  Awake is very James LaBrie used more of a metal voice to suit a darker heavier album.  On Falling Into Infinity James LaBrie was forced to change his style from his food-poisoning.  Falling Into Infinity is a lower pitched vocal album with more vocal effects, and a guest apperance by Dug Pinnick of King's X.  Scenes From a Memory goes back to James previous style on Awake, higher pitched vocals with a strong metal tone.  Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci also started doing more singing on this album.  On Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence the vocals are much softer and melancholic, Mike Portnoy also does many more solo vocal spots.  I really liked the contrast between LaBrie and Portnoy on this album.  That's all I'll get into for now.
 
Portnoy has consistently changed the tone of his set throughout Dream Theater discography.  He ditched that triggered snare from and went to a deeper sound on Awake.  He lightened up a little bit on Falling Into Infinity using more cymabal work than before.  On Scenes From a Memory his style became much more groove oriented especially in a song like Home.  There's also much more of a jazzy touch in the ballads.  Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence featured a much more tom oriented approach.
 
I don't think you could say Tool has nearly as much diversity as Dream Theater does.  Does Tool change the dynamics from their heavier tunes to their ballads as much as Dream Theater does?  Tool seems to relentlessly hit a listener with a similar tonality all throughout an album.  I'm not saying is is bad, I'm just saying this doesn't show the variation that Dream Theater does.


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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 14:33
DT always


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 14:57
It's like to choose between the plague and the cholera!
    


Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 15:06
I choose Pestilence, BTW:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pestilence_%28band - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pestilence_(band )


Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 15:12
I voted for the best band Big smile


Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 03:51

To avoid the massive amount of quotes that might become bothersome, I'd just like to point out Tool don't have that scant variation, previously implied, as the sound may seem similar throughout one album, or even in comparison with other works, but that's mainly an "outward" layer of what your ears perceive, since the changes occur, shifting in subtle movements of tones, contextualized in their own ambience, though presenting not so conspicuously depicted nuances. Thus, unlike Dream Theater, where every album is clearly distinguishable from the rest, the motions in Tool's progress are more profound - hence why, I, for one, claimed Tool to have as equal or superior depth as DT, since I feel there's an intricately meticulous mechanism, coaxing the sound to be “decoded” in a deeper analysis, in order to perceive the changes. The diversity itself alone isn’t what defines depth, I believe, but, even so, Tool aren’t as monotonous as one might prematurely conclude, nor can there ever be a decrease from Aenima to Lateralus and, consequently, to 10,000 Days (where the musicians demonstrate their great instrumental capacity along with its elaborate composition, in psychedelic moods never displayed before), as int_2375 concretely referred to, yielding some considerably substantial examples.
However, DT aren’t solely poised on simplistic structures, saved by mind-blowing soloing, as one can also determine individual spirit and rich variety of sound, amongst one album, though, crafted to pursue the album’s identity and mood. As AtLossForWords rightfully indicated, the drumming (and the drums themselves) wasn’t that much stagnated to a specific technique: it’s fairly easy to discern Images and Words through its drum rhythm and tone; Scenes From A Memory detains faster and more diversified beats, accounting to the songs’ singular status (even though the style converges to a consistent sound, since it’s a concept album). The panoply of songs shouldn’t be defined as the “same endlessly fast playing and soloing”, as well, taking into mind tracks such as Hell’s Kitchen, Wait For Sleep, Space Dye Vest, Misunderstood, Trial Of Tears, etc, that combine the melodic façade with instrumental precision and vocally transmitted sentiment of a not-so-banal construction. There are, nonetheless, powerful instrumental sections that extend the average solo length and transcend the soloing component, leaving all instruments to get a taste of the “pedestal”, as is seen and discussed on Scenes From New York – there was too much happening at the same time that one instrument alone wasn’t enough to be caught on camera.
Anyhow, this is just the impression that I draw from two grand bands and, whether or not one overlaps the other is highly propitious to subjectivity, since both have distinctly different ambitions and directions from one another. As to my use of words, I apologize for the apparently troublesome speech, though I find it easier to enhance the purpose into clarity, through a larger number of words, when it comes to express myself in an alien language, especially transmitting abstract intentions and feelings to a tangible comprehension, although, I do recognize I have little flux, coming contradictory to the thought, but I’ll try to evolve, in such terms, or cause less discontent. It saddens me, though, that there are still those who mistake intelligence for garrulously written speeches (often depicted in poorly written scripts for unoriginal movies, where scientists wear a bow-tie and profess the term “atomic” 10 times per sentence), as it is or should be demonstrated by one’s mentally logical pattern, but, then again, maybe that’s just a criteria exclusive for IQ tests.  



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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 06:22
tool is boring krautrock :). But I choose DT, of course


Posted By: Spectra
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 08:14

Definitely Tool Big smile

But no doubt that Dream Theater kicks serious ass...


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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 08:20
Tool Tool Tool Tool Tool Tool! Clap

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Posted By: Matt Dickens
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 01:47
I cant help why everyone always feels the need to fight over who's opinion is the right one. But then again let me express mine: Im not exactly old now (16) but when I was a lot younger Dream Theatre was exrtremely appealing to me, their musicianship was amazing and that made them into my favorite band for quite some time. I own all their albums.... BUT... around the time I entered high school a friend of mine burned me the album Aenima, and i remembered listening to it, and thinking stinkfist was a decent radio friendly rockish song, and i never could really get into anything past that.
 
Then one night I listened to the next track Eulogy, and i just happened to be in the right frame of mind to ingest what i was about to LISTEN to. you cannot hear it, you must listen. And by the song's end my life was forever changed. Obviously to this point I have been a huge tool fan as i would probably consider them my favorite band. And while I still cant help but have respect for Dream Theatre I could live without them, I could not on the other hand live without Tool.
 
Both bands have made progress throughout their careers. Dream Theater have always seemed to be better at pushing the envelop when it comes to phsyical ability. Tool has done that too in a much diferent way. For instance people do not realize just how amazing some of Adam Jones' solos have been. I have heard some people who can do a decent emulation of John Petrucci style shredding, but Ive never heard anyone who can make a note sustain naturally like Jones' does in the song 10,000 days. There are many other examples but you get the idea.
 
In the bass department ive always found Justin Chancellor to be quite a force, he is technically nowhere near the guy from DT (he's name escapes me, momentarily) but he makes uop for and surpasses this with his creativity.
 
Vocally, I respect the opera style vocals but I honestly cant stand them. And when LaBrie attempts the lower type growling thing i just feel like he should be embarassed for it. Keenan has come a long way as a singer, but Lyrically there is just no competition at all, Thats undeniably Tool by a long shot.
 
ah yes, the drums, time to make someone hate me im sure. Dont get me wrong Mike Portnoy is a technically an incredible drummer, BUT, Danny Carrey is untouchable, I feel his technical ability surpasses that of Portnoy. But when it comes to the are of creativity and expression, Portnoy is nowhere in the same ballpark, but thios is by no means an insult, because no one is really.
 
Ultimately I find Tool appealing in that they continue to dig deepeer into their hearts and minds to challenge themselves and their listeners. However I know a lot of people just absolutely hate tool or just havent had that moment yet where it all just clicks, I know some people are too hung up on their foregone conclusions to even want to. But my advice to anyone who seeks art with depth to not give up on Tool.
 
 
oh yes, and my vote went to Tool


Posted By: lynton samuel
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 05:01
TOOL!

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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 05:21
Dream Theater is a very ground breaking band while Tool is not as significante or good.

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Posted By: nicoguitar
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 14:19
Absolutely TOOL THEATER

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Posted By: Epitath
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 17:29
Mhm Tough one. Vote goes with Tool though!

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Posted By: rushfan6588
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:12
verry good question...i am placing my vote on now...so im going with tool
 
scenes from a memory is one of my fav prog cd's but i think they have been getting a little pop for me and james labrie is getting a little to emo
 
on the oposited end tool have had three consecutive quality albume aneima, lateralus, and 10,00 days...so ake me 2 years ago...id say DT, but now i say tool


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Posted By: _sam_
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:34
Originally posted by nicoguitar nicoguitar wrote:

Absolutely TOOL THEATER
 
Of course!
 
Close, but Tool for me, since I've liked their music since I was a wee lad. (Really!)


Posted By: DualXP
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 19:10

Tool is the only band that constantly gives me goosebumps....so argue musical technicality all you want...but the goosebumps is enough for me

 


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Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 20:15

its weird that Dream Theater is winning but just few ppl said "DREAM THEATER!!!" or something like that...

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Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 21:43
Tough choice...I've been on sort of a Tool tangent recently, just haven't bought 10,000 Days and all....but I have to vote for Dream Theater because they practically got me into the progressive scene. It depends on how I'm feeling, but I do enjoy both bands very much. I am, however, more familiar with Dream Theater's entire discography.

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Posted By: Time-Machinist
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 21:49
Originally posted by nicoguitar nicoguitar wrote:

Absolutely TOOL THEATER
 
Or Dream Tool? LOL What is you D.T. BTW? Tongue


Posted By: Azrael
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 02:07
Originally posted by Aspiring hope Aspiring hope wrote:

Originally posted by Serguilloche Serguilloche wrote:

Dream Theater without a doubt, there is no contest.

Greater songs, more entertaining musicians.

Tool are just really annoying, I feel like punching that poseur who sings for them.




To consider your value for entertainment, in remonstrance for quality, within progressive bands' appreciation, I think the so-called "poseur" - whose identidy, uniquely imbedded with the group's coexistence, probably gets you off since he fails to appeal to what casts appreciation in his divergence from the average spectacle (rumours tend to imply his name is Maynard James Keenan), - wouldn't be the only one to reciprocate your thought, as even DT or any other valuable musician would come to advert/punchback about how he/she's quality isn't measured through the category of "circus artistry", hyperbolicly speaking. Perhaps I'm cathing an erroneous conception of your phrases' intention and I apologize if so, but that exuded barren views of musical importance, since, beyond your egregious subjectivity to define Tool, their originally crafted countenance, of consistently unwavering "artistic" integrity, defies premature auditions for the precociously critic ear, as to see what lies beneath more than meets the eye takes auditive sensibility and patiently placid sagacity, not just an overwhelmed feel contracted upon hearing instruments reach their highest grounds of impressive skill, which, although might prove useful in a guitar-virtuoso band, isn't sufficient towards prog or any less conspicuous flairs, in rock itself.


    I bet you sat down with a thesaurus for 30 minutes to makeyou sound intelligent. 

    On another note, it would make you look like a better writer to split it into paragraphs. Also, it would make it much easier to read.

    I choose Dream Theater because they are the band that made me fall in love with prog. Ta Ta for now, see you later, and all that jazz.


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Posted By: slowfire85
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 07:58

Not a big fan of Long Island, or anything that comes out of it. TOOL all the way!!!!!!!!



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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:04
I'd pick Tool - challenges and entertains me more. DT not bad though    

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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:13
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

It's like to choose between the plague and the cholera!
    

    


Tut Tut

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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.


Posted By: horza
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:14
Originally posted by Dream Theater Dream Theater wrote:

I voted for the best band 

    


So is it a name change for you then

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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.


Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:18
^ why is that? his name is already amazing.. heheheh

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