Do Prog listeners also enjoy Jazz?
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Topic: Do Prog listeners also enjoy Jazz?
Posted By: YYZed
Subject: Do Prog listeners also enjoy Jazz?
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 19:57
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I fit into the good portion category. Thought this might be an interesting poll... cheers ------------- 
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:01
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Jazz makes up a good portion of what i listen to. Jazz rock that is... ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:02
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was raised on The Dave Brubeck Quartet.... love jazz. Big Monk
and Coltraine fan. Any jazz fans/prog fans here heard Stan
Kenton's 1962 album... Adventures in Time (A Concerto for
Orchestra)..... wow. I'm a 95% prog listener.... but if it's not prog.... it's jazz or classical. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:08
I love Miles Davis!  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Antennas
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:09
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I fear I'm too stoopid to understand jazz... ------------- 
Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either |
Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:12
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Lots of Fusion and Canterbury, but very little of the regular stuff.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:12
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Sometimes I'll listen too a couple of jazz tunes, but it was never my prefered genre.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:13
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often say that Kind of Blue is one of those handful of jazz albums that
should be in EVERYONE'S album collection. It's one of what I call
the '2x4' albums. An album that upon the first listen.... leaves
an impression comparible to taking a 2x4 to the jaw.------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Tuzvihar wrote:Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:20
Excellent comparison there!  Improvisation and music itself would never be the same afterwards. Is anyone a Wayne Shorter fan? In my opinion, he has really incredibly abilities as a jazz composer, as well as a sax player. -------------
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:22
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I like some classic jazz music like Duke Ellington, Ella Fitgerald, Billy Holiday but I listen to it very few times.
I don't like jazz-fusion. It bores me.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:28
hahahha Thanks... strangely enough it was Il Balletto di Bronzo's album YS that made me think of the comparison. That album knocked me on my ass on the first listen.... still does when I put it on. must admit to not knowing much about Wayne Shorter..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:30
Billie Holiday!!!!... now you are talking.... if I had a dime for every brain cell I killed in college 'seeking divine inspiration' to her albums.... Such passion in her voice. Good call. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:44
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I love jazz-rock/fusion, but I haven't heard so much regular jazz, though.. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Progshrike
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:49
Pat Metheny, Miles Davis, Branford Marsalis and some Herbie Hancock. I feel there is a strong correlation between Jazz and Prog. ------------- Did you ever think for yourself? Just once,did you ever think? That's all I want to know> |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:52
really... lack or opportunity (time) or lack of interest..... strongly recommend (as a fellow prog fan) the Stan Kenton album I mentioned above.. and of course what I call the first modern prog album Dave Brubeck's Time Out. and as a music fan I also strongly recommend Mile Davis Kind Of Blue. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:53
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every once in a while i listen to jazz on the radio and i do like it, i just like prog and rock so much more that thats the direction i lean towards when buying cds.
except for a couple fusion albums ------------- HELP! |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:53
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Sometimes... but I prefer fusion no pure jazz.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:55
agree strongly.... I feel my early exposure to Dave Brubeck set the stage for being later being a prog fan. Insane (and groundbreaking for 1959) metric complexity... exotic musical influences.... brilliant musicians and timeless music. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:57
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out of curiousity any Yes or Squire fans own the jazz album that Alan
White, Chris Squire, and Tony Kaye played on (along with Jeff Beck and
Stevie Winwood) from the early 70's.... a total mind'fart' . Very
interesting album.... Tony Kaye on the Moog... how ironic.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:03
Im gonna check out some Miles Davis for sure. Also, I want to check out some John Coltraine. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:06
you're a good man hahahha.. Check out for Coltraine.. A Love
Supreme. Another album that should be in every well rounded music
lover's album collection. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:10
 ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:26
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one more plug for Dave Brubeck's Time Out. I sure most people know that The Nice/ELP did a 'cover' of the opening track of the album. Blue RONDO al la Turk. How challenging is it.. you be the judge... Brubeck, Desmond, Morello, and Wright ripped through it in 9/8 (correctly mentioned as probably the least jazz friendly time signature for jazz hahahha) ... not bad for 1972... we're talking a hit album in 1959. One curiousity though... The Nice/ELP did it in 4/4 time... hmmm.... wonder why? ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:41
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someone needs to shut me up.... I'm gushing.... back to Brubeck hahahha have seen many concerts and shows.... however nothing... nothing compares to seeing Brubeck in a intimate setting of a small college theater with about 100 people. Watched from about 20 feet away a 70+ year old living legend pound out Blue Rondo a la Turk with the vigor of a 20 year old. Got to meet him after the show and shake his hand... and gush my admiration. Memories like that go with you to your grave. sorry to gush... a true legend of music. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:59
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I like Jazz. Although i don't listen to it as much as i would like to mostly due to the small amount of jazz in my collection. Also, Jazz-Rock/Fusion i like alot as well, and have a better amount of. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:08
funny... for as much as I love jazz and rock... other than the early Magma albums... jazz rock/fusion has never really 'grabbed' me. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: beebs
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:21
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As a teenager in the middle 70's, I listened to alot of fusion jazz, which resembled progressive rock to a great degree. The likes of Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X and Return to Forever were among my favorites. ------------- "Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of one's own mind" * Ralph Waldo Emerson |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:26
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I listen to a great deal of modern jazz (mostly ECM and related), so yeah, I guess it makes up a pretty good amount of my listening.
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:38
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the best thing about jazz is the feeling, beautiful.. ------------- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spmiw7.jpg"> 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 23:04
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I love Jazz and especially jazz funk. It makes up a decent amount of what I listen to. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 23:37
Now I'm getting into the Jazz-Rock Fusion, with the BIG band Weather Report  , and obviously the best bassist in the Earth: Jaco Pastorius.
So, by now, I listen occasionally ... but I hope to listen to it a lot more.
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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 00:46
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The best jazz track I have ever heard was something called Focus on
Sanity by Coltraine and Cherry from an album named <i>The
Avante-Garde</i>.
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 01:19
Exactly! Love the prog more, but some quartet jazz, like Dave Brubeck,is definitely prog-worthy. A classic like 'Runda a la Turk' - interchanging between 9/8 and 4/4 time signatures, is simply wonderful. As others have said, some classical pieces fill the prog bill too. Here, here - I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 01:59
| I listen occasionally, my grandpa loves jazz! |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 02:03
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I listen to a lot of progressive jazz/fusion, but occasionally I listen to some more average jazz like Jeff Lorber or Spyro Gyra. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 02:16
What's a 2x4? 
Anyway, I've got the following Miles Davis' albums in my collection: Birth of the cool Kind of blue Sorcerer Filles de Kilimanjaro Sketches of Spain (with Gil Evans) Miles smiles In a silent way Bitches Brew Big fun Pangaea Agharta Aura Tutu Doo bop   ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 05:58
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Jazz is great, love the big ones (Miles Davis, John Coltrane) What Dave Brubeck album would you recommend as a starter, micky? |
Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 07:03
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yeah, of course! Not all the time, but sometimes I really enjoy Listening to Jazz. ------------- 
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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:33
I'm not Micky, but I'll give you a recommendation anyways. I'd say start out at "Time Out". It's not only some of Brubeck's best, but some of the best jazz there is period. Very easy to see how it has had an influence on the world of prog, as well. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:42
great posts like that... and you might start getting confused with me hahahha  . Well said... I can't recommend that album strongly enough... for jazz fans... for prog fans.... for music fans. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: saarepiiga
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 09:52
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I listen to jazz fairly occasionally.
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Posted By: fogwalker
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:03
| I lile the funkier end of things, like Grant Green - especially with lots of cheesy Hammond organ. |
Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 11:28
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You know i love jazz. NOt only is it great to listen to, it is the only american music that really takes time and study that other people try to emulate, as opposed to americans trying to emulate all that british music....which almost always happens... some good jazz to check out: the rippingtons miles davis tony williams sarah vaughn Herbie hancock bela fleck and the flecktones louis armstrong thelonius monk coltrane and of coure all the other that were already mentioned |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 11:40
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My favourite music (in no particular order) is Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Canterbury scene (virtually everything!), Kenso, The Tangent, Richard Thompson, the Who, Led Zep, David Bowie, Van Morrison (when I'm in the right mood), Monteverdi's late madrigals, Bach (especially the music for harpsichord, of course), Handel's oratorios, Rameau's opera-ballets, Haydn's symphonies and string quartets, Mozart's operas and piano concertos, Schubert's Lieder, Berlioz, Schumann, Keith Jarrett, Ralph Towner, Eberhard Weber, Pat Metheny, Gary Burton, Dave Holland, Django Bates, Tim Garland, Weather Report, Herbie Hancock and a whole lot of other stuff. (All of which will probably show you that I was born in 1960!)
I have never understood people who think that rock is 'everything'. They're just like those who only listen to tunes that happen to be in the pop charts. |
Posted By: Dalkaen
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 11:59
| I'm just not getting into jazz, really. I have Miles Davis' Kind of Blue and Bitches Brew. I have to admit that I enjoyed the latter quite a bit more. |
Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:39
| Well, thanks to 70's King Crimson era and the Canterbury Scene, specially Soft Machine, now i ocasionally listen to Jazz. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:42
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I put jazz music (in its all diversity) at the same level of estimation than progressive rock.
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Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 14:35
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I don't care much about traditional jazz yet. When I am listening to jazzy music, it's always jazz rock or prog rock/metal with jazz influence. But I have to say that I find traditional jazz very relaxing and enjoyable at times, but wouldn't listen to it private at home. Maybe that can change someday, who knows? All respect to legends like Miles Davis of course. ------------- "All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste." - GENTLE GIANT |
Posted By: esha9751
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 15:16
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Yeah! Proggy jazz - also, when for some reason it doesn't figure on this site.
Look at my avatar - I reckon Chick Corea's Leprechaun and Mad Hatter are some of the proggiest music made (much better that RTF's really) But standards? not something I chose to play myself...! Esben NB: This poll had been better off stating, whether" jazz" meant music not on PA!? |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 15:20
| I love jazz and listen to it whenever I have the opportunity. Free jazz is my fav jazz subgenre (probably the most powerful music ever), but I generally like most jazz recorded since Charlie Parker's revolution, unless it's the loungy, cafe-type stuff, smooth jazz or vocal jazz - I don't like those. |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 18:43
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I'm not a jazz listener, but I sometimes come across it and if I like what I hear, I'll listen to it... but then again.. that counts for all the music I come across.
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Posted By: Rapataz
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 05:50
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My favourite Bands are the ones between Prog and Jazz so I would say both Genres make around 80 % of all I hear Then there are some Indie-Rock Bands I like (< 5 %), Classic Music and Movie Soundtracks (>5%), some electronic stuff (Acid Jazz ------------- www.myspace.com/rasayanaband |
Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 06:12
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Originally posted by Antennas ''I fear I'm too stupid to understand jazz...'' I share this fear myself.. ------------- 'Sundown,yellow moon, I replay the past I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast..... Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.' Bob Dylan |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 06:35
nothing to understand jazz is a mood, a feeling and in some cases a sister music to prog >> it will probably come soon or later to you especially if you are into Jazz Rock Fusion or canterbury
BTW
Jazz makes up a good portion of what I listen to ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 10:05
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hahahah... someone is a Brubeck fan watching CBS's Sunday Morning.... two songs from Time Out are used in seperate stories. Blue Rondo A La Turk Kathy's Waltz ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 12:35
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Originally posted by bsurmano
Originally posted by Antennas ''I fear I'm too stupid to understand jazz...'' I share this fear myself.. nothing to understand jazz is a mood, a feeling and in some cases a sister music to prog >> it will probably come soon or later to you especially if you are into Jazz Rock Fusion or canterbury
Well, I think you're right about jazz as the music of the mood and although I'm really in Jazz rock, Blues rock and Canterbury, somehow al least so far, true jazz didn't touch me. But as you said , maybe it will come.... ------------- 'Sundown,yellow moon, I replay the past I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast..... Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.' Bob Dylan |
Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 15:41
It will come if yo don't force it. It will grow on you if you give it time to do so. And if it doesn't grow on you, that doesn't mean you are stupid. It just means you don't like the genre, something perfectly acceptable. -------------
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 15:44
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I listened to some Joshua Redman the other day which wasn´t bad. Jazz leaves me disorientated, doesn´t seem to have a structure, so I voted No not at all.
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Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:37
Yes, this lack of structure is bothering me also. Namely, what do I see in 'pure' jazz are only superb musicians capable to perform endless impressive improvisation, but I can't feel the music in it. I would really like to sense this true jazz fluid and I guess (and hope) that it will come spontaneously (since I'm listening to some prominent names) as all the good music touches usually do. ------------- 'Sundown,yellow moon, I replay the past I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast..... Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.' Bob Dylan |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 22:40
Same here! Love Jazz - was introduced to Dave Brubeck when I was 5-6yrs old!! Nice to see another forum member with a similar upbringing  ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 22:41
yeah I did go on and on about him yesterday didn't I  Numero Uno musical idol. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: bamba
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 23:05
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Jazz makes up a good portion of what I listen to, I think prog & jazz have some things in Common. ------------- Learning Flute [Amigo de Manticore y Memowakeman] (primo)[IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/2437702285_fbb450500d_o.jpg |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 04:36
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Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 01:03
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This one does. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 03:47
i occasionally listen to jazz, i'm not keen on the early "trad jazz" but besides fusion i like some of the later or recent music artists such as miles davis (bitches brew, man with the horn, jack johnson), coltrane (love supreme), dolphy - out to lunch, the bad plus, herbie hancock (head hunters), the lounge lizards, charles mingus, matthew shipp, miroslav vitus. . if you like anything slightly weird or off the beaten track there's plenty to discover in my list!-------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 00:40
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I listen occasionally - suits me fine.
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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 10:10
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I like jazz. but i dont have much jazz to listen to so i listen occasionally. ------------- true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants. 
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Posted By: Ananth
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 12:36
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I love Jazz, Jazz-rock/fusion..
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Posted By: CVoss
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 15:25
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I love jazz and prog both for their musical complexities and skill required. Some of the prog influences do come from jazz, too, and not just fusion but even symphonic prog and neo-prog/post-rock. ------------- "No one told you when to run You missed the starting gun" |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 15:58
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I collected a lot of jazz on vinyl and, unfortunately, I don't get to listen to music at home as much as I'd like so years go by without getting to spin 'em. I do have Miles Davis on cds and love to have him in the car with me from time to time. He was pure genius! ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 18:03
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I'm learning to play jazz but I hardly evre listen to it, except for Dave Brubeck's band. ------------- 
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Posted By: Toon
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 20:15
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It's one of my favorite musical genres and I usually listen to some
sort of Jazz everyday. My favorite Jazz musician is probably John
Coltrane.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 21:08
hahahah.... if only one....and as a prog fan... you got the right one hahah.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: amprog91
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 21:59
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i love gordon goodwin's big phat band. they are a very technical big band that should appeal to a lot of prog bands.
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Posted By: amprog91
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 22:01
| i meant prog fans |
Posted By: krring
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 05:52
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Jazz is a big part of my music listening. Between the two genres, I would say it's split 60-40 between prog and jazz respectively. Favourites: Miles Davis, Charles Mingus, Rahsaan Roland Kirk. I also quite enjoy the Scandinavian modern jazz scene - Esbjorn Svensson Trio and Nils Petter Molvaer. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 05:57
| I love Free Jazz and some Rock Jazz. Some Cool Jazz, Bebop and Hard Bop as well. Favourites are: John Zorn, Ornette Coleman, Miles Davis, John Coltrane. |
Posted By: Larsapik
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 06:26
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I grew up listening to jazz and prog side by side and I think that a good portion of the albums I listened to was a good merger between prog and jazz . naturally saying Jazz I refer more to Weather Report, Miles Davis and Brand X rather than Benny Goodman.
For Collins the jump between Genesis and Brand X was no problem as a musician and not for me as a listener either.
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