Jethro Tull - A Little Help!
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Topic: Jethro Tull - A Little Help!
Posted By: Abstrakt
Subject: Jethro Tull - A Little Help!
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:20
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i'm gonna order some Jethro Tull Now and, where to start?
Thanks!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:24
| I guess most people will say Thick As A Brick or Aqualung. Speaking as a recent convert to the Tull cause, I would say "Minstrel in the Gallery" is pretty good. |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:25
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"Thick as a brick" is too expensive...
how about "A Passion Play" and "Aqualung"?
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:34
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I'll just number which I think is best, disregarding which would fit your personality best, because no one knows that:
1. Thick as a Brick (5)
2. Songs from The Wood (5)
3. Stand Up (4.5)
4. A Passion Play (4.5)
5. Stormwatch (4.5)
6. Heavy Horses (4.5)
7. Aqualung (4)
8. Jethro Tull Christmas Album (4)
9. Minstrel in the Gallery(4)
10. Broadsword and the Beast (3.5)
(#) = Approx. star rating from me out of 5. Also, just because Thick as a brick is #1 and Songs from the Wood is #2 doesn't mean Thick as a Brick is better. The numbers 1-10 are there only to show that those are my top 10. Star ratings are what you really need to consider.
That should get you going for a while.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:40
"This Was"(68) and "Stand up"(69) are essential: big classics not to miss, "Benefit" (70) is average, "Aqualung" (71) is considered by many as the masterpiece, features indeed the best acoustic pieces they did. "Thick as a brick" (72) is the most prog. After comes the decline with the "decent" "Passion play"(73) and "Ministrel in the gallery" (75). |
Abstrakt wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:48
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Minstreal In The Gallery
Thick As A Brick
Heavy Horses
Aqualung
A Passion Play
Stormwatch
All good places to start IMO. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 15:53
You all pass beside the guenuine "This was" and "Stand up"
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 16:08
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My personal favourites are 'Aqualung', 'Thick As A Brick' and 'Songs From The Wood'. For me, these are easily their best and a good summary of their career. After that, get 'Stand Up', 'Minstrel In The Gallery', 'Broadsword and the Beast', 'Heavy Horses' and 'Crest Of A Knave'- excellent albums all. I also really like the more blues rock debut 'This Was', but it's a bit of an anomaly in their catalogue really.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 17:00
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Thick as a Brick, A Passion Play and Minstrel in the Gallery are my favorites. Aqualung and Thick are probably the best, or at least good starting points. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Psychedelia
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 17:39
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My favourites are A Passion Play, Minstrel in the Gallery and then Too old to rock and roll, Too young to die although that is slightly worse.
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:50
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Man, JT's been around too long to just pick one or a few to tell ya where to start. They are not formulaic uninventive rock. The evolve and reinvent themselves each time. Get the first few if you like blues/jazz type things. If not, move towards their early to mid 70's discs for the more Progressive sounds. Later 70's they get folksy. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:59
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I like A Passion Play, but I think that would be a bad place to start with Tull. And TAAB is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000AOUD/qid=1148089607/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-8243239-2322552?s=music&v=glance&n=5174 - $10 on Amazon. Although I suppose that doesn't help you in Sweden... ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:37
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You should rate Tull by year, because each album is missing great session songs which are better than alot of the songs on the actual albums. Anyway I think the following are Tulls best 10 years.
1972-thick as a brick(excellent). Excellent year
1971-aqualung remaster(strong, but some overrated songs on side 2. Includes strong bonus tracks from 1971 though) + living in the past(this has another 7 or so great 1971 songs which are among Tulls best acoustics). Get Aqualung remaster and Living in the past together and you will make a classic 1971 album from the 2 just as good or even better than Thick as a brick. Don't forget to download the important Life is a long song remix from my site. It is among Tulls best ever songs and is hard to find. Excellent year
1978-heavy horses remaster(very strong album which contains some good bonus tracks, but it does not include Blues instrumental which is at my site and hard to find). Other strong songs missing from this remaster are Beltane and a stitch in time which are found on Songs from the wood and Stormwatch remasters instead. Great folk prog from Tull in 1978. Excellent year
1979-stormwatch remaster(solid album and underrated with great bonus tracks). This is equal with 1978. It's a heavier sounding Tull though. Excellent year
1999-dotcom(strong album which could do without 4 or 5 songs) + It all trickles down single. You can pick 10 songs from this session which form an album I still consider would be the best rock album of the last 20 years at least. Tull play smart music and it's just more exciting and catchier than any other modern band. It's not loud music, it's typically smart prog from a super experienced band
1982-broadsword remaster(some very good songs, but the album could do without 3 or 4 songs. Some strong bonus tracks as well as some weaker bonus tracks. But this remaster is missing another 8 bonus tracks which are probably just as good as the 8 bonus tracks on the remaster). The remaster includes the weak version of jackalynn, but you can download the great version of jackalynn at my site. This session includes 26 songs and you can make a classic prog folk rock album from the best 10 songs. Tull were still flying in the early 80s. Don't believe people who say Tull were no good after the 70s. They have probably only heard 10 of the available 26 songs from 1982 era. Yes there were some mediocre songs in 1982, but there is enough strong songs to prove Tull could record 10 songs per album year which would make them among the best bands in the world every single year. Very good year with the occasional mediocre song
1980-A remaster(very good and very underrated prog album, which could do without Batteries not included). This has some excellent songs as usual. I still consider this a better prog album than A passion play. Tull had not dropped off the pace at all in 1980. They probably lifted another cog actually. This is a better album than Broadsword and probably equal with the best 10 songs from the complete Broadsword session. Very good year and strangely underrated at this site by so called prog fans ;). Very good year
1974-warchild remaster(the 7 bonus tracks are the highlights plus some other strong tracks on a mildy disappointing original album. March the mad scientist should have been included, but it was added to the Minstrel remaster instead). You can make another almost classic prog album from the best 10 songs. Most of the bonus tracks a fairly prog. Strong year
1977-songs from the wood(another typically strong year). Very solid year. Folk prog
1970-benefit remaster(the 3 classic bonus tracks are the major highlights). Very solid year
These are my fave 10 years of Tull, but I have included every possible session song to make my decision. I'd probably rank the remaining years in the following order.
1973-A passion play-very solid
1969-stand up remaster with great bonus tracks-very solid
1991-catfish rising with another 7 or 8 important bonus tracks-best 10 tracks among 20 make very good album
1987-crest of a knave remaster(check out my sound improvements)-very solid
1995-roots to branches-solid
2001-xmas album-some cool stuff
1968-this was remaster(great bonus tracks)-solid
1975-minstrel in the gallery remaster-solid but overrated
1976-too old to rnr remaster(cool bonus tracks)-equal with minstrel remaster
1989-rock island(check out my sound improvements)-decent with cool bonus track
1984-under wraps(some cool songs, some bad songs, check out my sound improvements)-decent
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 01:20
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"heavy horses" and "a passion play"...
sounds good?
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 01:23
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 01:55
| then i'll just might buy those! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 03:13
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Alex, check out the Jethro Tull videos on Youtube if you can. I have the remastered Aqualung and it's very good. I also saw JT in concert a few months back. -------------   
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 03:20
lucky 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 03:22
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I guess so, but it wasn't 1970s Jethro Tull (well it was, but Ian Anderson's voice has detiorated somewhat), so it wasn't to the quality of concerts back in the day. But still excellent nonetheless. -------------
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 09:13
| Don't go for A passion play. Go for Thick as a brick and Heavy horses. I think you would have to see how strong Tull are to enjoy A passion play. If you bought A passion play as your first Tull cd, you would think they were not that good a band |
Posted By: fogwalker
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 09:33
| Thick as a Brick is the classic album for me. Benefit is probably my second favourite, and I would recommend it is a starting point, |
Posted By: Psychedelia
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 16:17
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Nah Thick as a Brick isn't as good as a Passion Play it is a bit repetetive and not as good in theme as A Passion Play.
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Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 17:51
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In short :
1. Stand Up
2. Aqualung ------------- 'Sundown,yellow moon, I replay the past I know every scene by heart, they all went by so fast..... Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft.' Bob Dylan |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 19:46
| Thick as a brick is a genius work, A passion play is a weaker attempt |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 20:00
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I'd probably leave Minstrel and A passion play until last. I'd happily take the following remasters before Minstrel and A passion play. I have no doubt that all the following have more listening time of strong music
Stand up(1969)
Benefit(1970)
Aqualung(1971)
Living in the past(1972)
Thick as a brick(1972)
Warchild(1974)
Songs from the wood(1977)
Heavy horses(1978)
Stormwatch(1979)
A(1980)
Broadsword(1982)
Crest of a knave(1987)
Catfish rising(1991)
Nightcap(1993)-includes some good catfish and broadsword extras
Roots to branches(1995)
Dotcom(1999)
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 00:08
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Jethro Tull
If you get Aqualung, you will be left with a wrong impression of the band, or thats what happened to me. you'll be looking for music similar to that album. you should save this fro last.
Begin with Minstreal in the Gallery. Its a great listen to, not pretentious like Passion Play, yet captivating unlike Too Old Too Rock and Roll: Too Yong To Die.
Thick as a Brick ( Simply Impeccable)
War Child (Get This the get Aqualung)
Beast and The Broadsword
Stand Up
AlthoughI own them,
Stormwatch
Heavy Horses
Benefit
are no that great, they are decent at best, good, but not essential
hop this helps
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 00:26
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I don't have that much of Jethro Tull albums but I recommend you start with Thick as a brick or with Songs from the wood. BUT! whatever you do, be sure to listen to A passion play before you die.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 05:11
| minstrel is pretty lacklustre. Heavy horses blows it away :D. The acoustics on heavy horses are so much more interesting. They would have been much harder to write than most of the stuff on Minstrel. Ians voice sounds like he inhaled helium on Minstrel |