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Topic: Sky
Posted By: Zac M
Subject: Sky
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 22:22
It's a shame noone ever mentions this wonderful band that hit the scene it the late 70's. Sky was full of virtuosos, including John Williams, Francis Monkman, Herbie Flowers, Kevin Peek, and Tristan Fry (later on, other members joined, as Monkman left and did more library music and soundtracks).

Sky's music is a blend of classical and rock, with no orchestral instruments (i.e. strings, etc...). I only have the first and second albums so far, but am getting the fourth one soon. I really enjoyt their albums, and while I know it's not for everyone, they sure are worth a listen (I plan on doing reviews soon).

Are there any other fans here?


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Posted By: Ultaigh
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 00:59
Is that the John Williams that plays Classical guitar?  I'll definetly check them out!

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 01:01
Originally posted by Ultaigh Ultaigh wrote:

Is that the John Williams that plays Classical guitar?  I'll definetly check them out!

Yes it is! Finally a reply, I thought all was hopeless there for a while!


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 01:41
Great for the first 2 albums while Francis Monkman hung around.SKY 2 is an interesting ,if sprawling, double album.They did very well for a time and stood up to punk/new wave which is creditable.


Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 02:21
 I  want to get into them so whats a good place to start?


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 03:23
I think I would start with the first album, like I did. The second is a bit long (especially the LP, all the tracks wouldn't fit onto one CD), but I think it outdoes the first overall. Either one would make a fine starting point though.

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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 03:33
For me, Sky had a lot of potential which they never realised. Their msuic is generally easy, with little to challenge the virtuosity of the members. 


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 03:53
Sky are Ok. Not prog though.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 04:07
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Sky are Ok. Not prog though.
Sky's first two Lp had some good things about them, but I never liked those bands which do reworks of classic I am not any nicer towards Holland's Trace and Ekseption
 
Pell Mell did also one of those album, which was certainly not quite as good as their Marburg album
 
After their second album, the rest is pityful IMH&PO >> Sky is close to muzak in more than one way


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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:17
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Sky are Ok. Not prog though.
Sky's first two Lp had some good things about them, but I never liked those bands which do reworks of classic I am not any nicer towards Holland's Trace and Ekseption
 
Pell Mell did also one of those album, which was certainly not quite as good as their Marburg album
 
After their second album, the rest is pityful IMH&PO >> Sky is close to muzak in more than one way
 
Agreed - there were some interesting ideas on the first two albums, and John Williams fitted in surprisingly well,  but after that they were like rock music's answer to those mostly dreadful 'Classic Rock' orchestral albums.


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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:35

Have to agree with Sean's "muzak" comment. I knew of John Williams (ex-Mr Anna Ford, the BBC newsreader!) from his classical guitar work and the premise of the band sounded good, but at the time I bought their first album I had also just discovered Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of Fire" and McLaughlin and co just blew them away, as far as I was concerned. Easy Living is right - undoubtedly they were all virtuosi, but  never challenged themselves in the format of Sky.

There is plenty of John Williams classical guitar work around, including some splendid work he did with julian Bream.



Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:37
Originally posted by Phil Phil wrote:

Have to agree with Sean's "muzak" comment. I knew of John Williams (ex-Mr Anna Ford, the BBC newsreader!) from his classical guitar work and the premise of the band sounded good, but at the time I bought their first album I had also just discovered Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Birds of Fire" and McLaughlin and co just blew them away, as far as I was concerned. Easy Living is right - undoubtedly they were all virtuosi, but  never challenged themselves in the format of Sky.

There is plenty of John Williams classical guitar work around, including some splendid work he did with julian Bream.

 
Clap Yes - the imaginatively titled 'Together' and 'Together Again' are both excellent.


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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 10:33
i got sky2, it's really refreshing to listen to, and the sound quality is excellent!Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 13:03
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

For me, Sky had a lot of potential which they never realised. Their msuic is generally easy, with little to challenge the virtuosity of the members. 
 
I have to agree. I have Sky2 (vinyl - bought when it was first released) and while I enjoy playing it from time to time (like every couple of years or so) I will not be getting any more. I must say that the music originally intrigued me enough to start really listening to classical music.


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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 15:11
It seems they aren't too popular hereLOL.

By the way, Hugues, I enjoyed reading your reviews of the first three albums.


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 03:56
Originally posted by Zac M Zac M wrote:

It seems they aren't too popular hereLOL.

By the way, Hugues, I enjoyed reading your reviews of the first three albums.
Well I was not too kind to themEmbarrassed


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 04:06
Personally, I thought Sky was a wasted opportunity; the combination of virtuosi within their ranks over the years should have produced absolutely stunning albums, but in my opinion, they played 'safe', producing what I can only describe as 'elevator music'.

My disappointment with Sky was only eclipsed by the greatest waste of talent ever - i.e. Hackett & Howes' appalling 'GTR' album

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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 04:52
 I just got Sky 3 second hand for $3NZ (roughly $2.50US), which is a great find for the musical wasteland New Zealand is (NZ is hell for a prog rock fan) I'll have to give it a good listen though before I have any thoughts on it.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 16:50
I don't agree with the idea that they 'played it safe'.Far from it in fact.They arrived at a time when instrumental bands were about as popular as Rabies but still put out 2 excellent albums.Sky 2 is actually quite proggy.I love the feeling the music creates and they certainly stood out for the time which was dominated by stupid new wave electro crap.But after Monkman left they just became a sad parody of themselves (ie Dance Of The Big Fairies Ouch ) and then it went rapidly downhill.


Posted By: horza
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 14:51
I liked Sky - especially the tracks Westway and Where Opposites Meet - superb - I had the first LP

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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 03:39
I wan't keen on Sky when I first heard them, mainly because my parents bought Sky 2...

However, I found their first 4 LPs in spanking new condition in a second hand vinyl shop a few weeks agi and gave them a quick spin.

The quality deteriorates as the album number increments - the first is pretty reasonable in places, but the second starts to get painful. I particularly hate their version of Bach's "Toccata in D Minor", but then I have a natural aversion to hearing that piece used in conjunction with rock anyway, just like I do with "O Fortuna" from "Carmina Burana"... /shudder.

It's true that all the musicians are phenomenally talented, but none really know how to rock.


The best example of mixing Rock and Classical is Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Variations".

Herbie Flowers plays on that too...


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