Song Similarities
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Topic: Song Similarities
Posted By: lightbulb_son
Subject: Song Similarities
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:32
Hey everyone. I was just listening to Opeth and I noticed that Nektar (off of Morningrise) has the same riff from The Grand Conjuration (off Ghost Reveries). Listen at about the 8:48 mark and you'll hear the same riff from the start of the Grand Conjuration (it is sped up a bit on Nektar).
Does anyone know of any other riff repetitions?
doesn't matter what band.
these repetitions can be vocal too.
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:45
"Sysyphus" - That main riff in Pt. 1 is repeated by Nick in his song, "The Grand Vizier's Garden Party Pt. 2", from the same album. Listen in the beggining of Pt. 2 when the flute is being played backwards, it's the same exact riff from "Sysyphus", and I was utterly amazed when I found it.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:47
"As I am" by Dream Theater is exactly the same as the song "Black Sabbath" by Black Sabbath
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:48
Rust wrote:
"Sysyphus" - That main riff in Pt. 1 is repeated by Nick in his song, "The Grand Vizier's Garden Party Pt. 2", from the same album. Listen in the beggining of Pt. 2 when the flute is being played backwards, it's the same exact riff from "Sysyphus", and I was utterly amazed when I found it. |
cool ill check it out
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:50
lightbulb_son wrote:
Rust wrote:
"Sysyphus" - That main riff in Pt. 1 is repeated by Nick in his song, "The Grand Vizier's Garden Party Pt. 2", from the same album. Listen in the beggining of Pt. 2 when the flute is being played backwards, it's the same exact riff from "Sysyphus", and I was utterly amazed when I found it. |
cool ill check it out
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I'm preety sure I'm the first to find this out.
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Mental self defensive fitness
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:52
Anekdoten - Where Solitude Remains (sp?)
Magma - De Futura
The bass sound is quite similar in both songs..
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:59
In Another Day by Dream Theater, at 2:53, there is a riff for a couple
of bars that is exactly the same as the one from The Funeral
Portrait by Opeth (it starts at 0:30).
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 22:06
Ty1020 wrote:
In Another Day by Dream Theater, at 2:53, there is a riff for a couple of bars that is exactly the same as the one from The Funeral Portrait by Opeth (it starts at 0:30). |
wow ur right
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Can't no one be well
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 22:11
Another one I had noticed that isn't prog is a riff from the Misfit's song "Helena" and from Metallica's "Sanitarium"
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Can't no one be well
But I dreamt we were all
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 22:14
Hey guys, the riff from "Another Brick in the wall pt 1" is awfully similar to the one in "another brick in the wall pt 2..." *shot*
Anyways, on a similar note, "Phase One" of Voyage 34 *porcupine tree* is a ripoff of both of these. Also, interestingly *kinda* the guitar part for "goodbye blue sky" is ripped off by "fade to black" by metallica.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 22:21
This Dying Soul from Train Of Thought has an obvious ripoff verse from Metallica's Blackened
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 22:22
ooh you mean the descending thing? thats just at the beginning though...wouldnt quite call it a ripoff
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 22:27
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Hey guys, the riff from "Another Brick in the wall pt 1" is awfully similar to the one in "another brick in the wall pt 2..." *shot*
Anyways, on a similar note, "Phase One" of Voyage 34 *porcupine tree* is a ripoff of both of these. Also, interestingly *kinda* the guitar part for "goodbye blue sky" is ripped off by "fade to black" by metallica.
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yes but I think Steven did that on purpose it goes with the whole acid trip theme.
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Can't no one be well
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 23:01
lightbulb_son wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Hey guys, the riff from "Another Brick in the wall pt 1" is awfully similar to the one in "another brick in the wall pt 2..." *shot*
Anyways, on a similar note, "Phase One" of Voyage 34 *porcupine tree* is a ripoff of both of these. Also, interestingly *kinda* the guitar part for "goodbye blue sky" is ripped off by "fade to black" by metallica.
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yes but I think Steven did that on purpose it goes with the whole acid trip theme. |
Yeah very true..plus I dont think at that point he was thinking of having a huge career in music. He was in it for the best part: the music. Truly an inspiration....and as far as similarities the song "Footprints' *on the sunday of life* kinda sounds like Arriving Somewhere But Not Here....I know its a stretch but its late and I want to make myself happy by thinking I did something clever. Yay me. Ok thats over.
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 05:32
The acoustic riff of "Lost For Words (Pink Floyd, The Division Bell album) is an auto-rip-off of the acoustic riff of Wish You Were Here.
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Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 06:15
Obviously, a part in Kansas - Song for America is a 100% ripoff of the piano part in Genesis - Firth of Fifth.
Also, the mellotron theme that appears quite early in Änglagård -
Jordrök is stolen shamelessly from Schicke Führs Fröhling - Pictures.
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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 07:49
See the majority of Dream Theater's work.
E.G. = "Home" has traces of Tool's "46&2", Solitary Shell has traces of Yes' "And You And I" keyboard melody, "Panic Attack" has sections that are very, VERY Muse...those are the ones that come straight to mind.
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Posted By: nowayman121
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 08:04
DT's later 2 rip off alot, I still like it though. Pink Floyd's Final Cut takes alot of music ideas from The Wall, i think it was roger waters running on empty. Home and 46 & 2 riff are very similar but I accociate a bass line sounding like that with sitars and the effects being used, and I have no idea why
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Posted By: Agemo
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 11:06
The riff from Van Der Graaf Generator's Killer and Raw Material's Ice Queen are the same.
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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 11:58
I see some similarities between Anathema's song Pulled Under at 2000 Metres a Second from album Natural Disaster and Pink Floyd's Sheep. I mean the way that Vincent Cavanagh sings the lines:
"Freedom is only a hallucination
That waits at the edge of the places you go when you dream"
He do it very similar to Waters singing in line:
"Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream"
I mean, the melody of the vocal, rhythmic and the way he sings. There is also very similar repetition of last word in these two lines.
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Posted By: why not
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 13:06
lightbulb_son wrote:
Hey everyone. I was just listening to Opeth and I noticed that Nektar (off of Morningrise) has the same riff from The Grand Conjuration (off Ghost Reveries). Listen at about the 8:48 mark and you'll hear the same riff from the start of the Grand Conjuration (it is sped up a bit on Nektar).
Does anyone know of any other riff repetitions?
doesn't matter what band.
these repetitions can be vocal too. |
Rotting Christ's aeternatus and some other song in Khronos album. Merely the same
cant think of any others now
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 16:16
heyitsthatguy wrote:
Hey guys, the riff from "Another Brick in the wall pt 1" is awfully similar to the one in "another brick in the wall pt 2..." *shot*
Anyways, on a similar note, "Phase One" of Voyage 34 *porcupine tree* is a ripoff of both of these. Also, interestingly *kinda* the guitar part for "goodbye blue sky" is ripped off by "fade to black" by metallica.
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I was going to say exactly the same thing
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Posted By: Maverick
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 07:17
And once again, Dream Theater was poured by dirt...
Actually, I don't mind if there are rip-offs or there aren't...
I don't think DT is trying to rip off something... Maybe, it's similiar to some of Black Sabbath's and Metallica's riffs - but that's all. DT has their own face, it would be a shame if they really ripped off from classics of rock or metal.
But, some of Pendragon's music is not far from Genesis and Yes music. I think, 70's prog simply influence on almost every modern prog-band.
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