Is prog-appreciation age-related?
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Topic: Is prog-appreciation age-related?
Posted By: BestFreak
Subject: Is prog-appreciation age-related?
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 08:45
A bit of a demographic survey... if we can draw conclusions, maybe we can explore whether ProgRock is also gender-related.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 08:51
OK - I'm a woman and over 40. We're quite few here (I've counted five so far), but that doesn't bother me at all.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:00
Im 15 and have been into prog since I was 10. Genesis and King Crimson started my prog addiction!
However, I heard Supertramp when I was 4 and Jean-Michel Jarre since I was 9, and they're still my favorite artists.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:01
Here's more than you needed for your demographic:
Male, 29, married, first kid due in two months.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:01
Hi and welcome, BestFreak, this is what you're looking for:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=703&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=703&am p;PN=1
It used to be different. When the forum was just launched, I was one of the only youngsters (I'm 19 years old myself), and the majority was over 40 years old.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:11
14 years old here.
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Posted By: BestFreak
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:11
Joren van Ree wrote:
Hi and welcome, BestFreak, this is what you're looking for:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=703&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=703&am p;am p;PN=1
It used to be different. When the forum was just launched, I was one of the only youngsters (I'm 19 years old myself), and the majority was over 40 years old.
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Thanx, Joren... didn't know this poll was done before... and I really think the results are quite interesting, with the majority (at that time) being quite young... I guess it might have been related to internet-literacy??? In that case, the results this time may differ.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:15
BestFreak wrote:
Joren van Ree wrote:
Hi and welcome, BestFreak, this is what you're looking for:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=703&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=703&am p;am p;am p;PN=1
It used to be different. When the forum was just launched, I was one of the only youngsters (I'm 19 years old myself), and the majority was over 40 years old.
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Thanx, Joren... didn't know this poll was done before... and I really think the results are quite interesting, with the majority (at that time) being quite young... I guess it might have been related to internet-literacy??? In that case, the results this time may differ.
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It's not just "at that time", BestFreak. The poll has been open and running since!
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Posted By: BestFreak
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:17
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It's not just "at that time", BestFreak. The poll has been open and running since!
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OOOPS... what a silly Newbie I am... !
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:18
GPFR wrote:
14 years old here. |
Is that a record? The youngest Prog Archives member.
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Posted By: BestFreak
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:19
... and I can't even quote properly...
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:27
No problem, BestFreak, just use the "quote" button that you can find in the right top corner of every post.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 09:33
Stll 20 years ... 21 in a couple of months
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 10:09
I fall in the 31-35 age bracket, but I've had an appreciation for prog since about age 13.
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 10:59
I started with The Moodies around 13 and then Dark Side around 14. I'm 15 right now.
I would say that my tastesin music are GREATLY effected by my dad and mom's music, if it weren't for them, I would be listening to this MTV/Radio crap that everyone else my age listens to.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:14
Wow!!!So many youngs here!!!Prog will survive!!!
Male,19,student,guitar/kybds-player,interested in Sympho/Neo/Italian/Art-prog.Any vacancies?
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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:26
I am 46, the correct age iif you want to have been there when it all happened (1972-73 I mean). It is the taste that you acquire in your teens that you often bring with you. And when that taste is prog, it is quality lane all the way!!!
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:34
26 y.o. here.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:42
T'm 13 and a young floydian
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:44
Bob Greece wrote:
GPFR wrote:
14 years old here. |
Is that a record? The youngest Prog Archives member.
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no, i've beaten that... pfft...
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Posted By: saarepiiga
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:48
Ghost Rider wrote:
OK - I'm a woman and over 40. We're quite few here (I've counted five so far), but that doesn't bother me at all. |
I'm a woman too. So it makes 6 of us!
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 11:56
Posted By: sm sm
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:05
Progressive rock could be birth related
Progressive rock is much like jazz or classical music, thus there will only be a limited audience for this music as it does not have easy to listen to catchy riffs or it performers are not able to dance around on stage and still be able to play the music
Progressive rock came of age with a boomer population where the small percentage of fans was still big enough to financially support making such records and touring.
When a similar boomer population occurs, then such complex music will be more accessible
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:06
Ok, I am one of those guys that remembers much of the 70's prog scene being 49. It's nice to see younger people with an appreciation for progressive rock. We need more of you though. Spread the word!
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:16
Well I was 16 3 weeks ago ()
17 for me
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:19
I'm eleventy-levven plus tuppence ha'penny.
Is my dinner ready yet?
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:21
Posted By: cowbell1
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:21
It seems like it really boils down to 15-20 year olds not wanting to listen to rap or new rock that they are putting out.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:23
I don't think it's age-related at all, I'm 18 by the way.
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:26
Man Erg wrote:
I'm eleventy-levven plus tuppence ha'penny.
Is my dinner ready yet? |
Supper's Ready.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:27
Bob Greece wrote:
GPFR wrote:
14 years old here. |
Is that a record? The youngest Prog Archives member.
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We've had a 13 year old before. I forgot his name but I did some research: Parker, who's now 14 years old, but I don't think he posts here anymore.
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:28
Empathy wrote:
Man Erg wrote:
I'm eleventy-levven plus tuppence ha'penny.
Is my dinner ready yet? |
Supper's Ready.
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Posted By: DeepPhreeze
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:34
16.
And I think it's great that so many young people (especially those interested in counter-culture) are turning back to classic prog
It really warms my heart.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:35
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:39
25 here, but I've liked The Moody Blues since I was about 13 or so (due to my parents and living in the birth town of Justin Hayward... and seeing them in concert in my teenage years). I was a huge Queen fan in the 1980s, which is a bit worrying now I come to think of it! My big brother always liked Pink Floyd, so I always got to hear Dark Side Of The Moon as well as Jean Michel Jarre (not that he's that prog mind you), oh and Mike Oldfield's Tublar Bells, so that's where I've got my prog interest from. I'm now more into prog than any of the family, which I quite like the thought of.
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:40
I am 44 yrs old & been into prog since i first bought Foxtrot when it first came out in '72 on my cousin's recommendation!! Never looked back
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:40
I'm 35, but my mental age is 15.
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Posted By: man@arms
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:45
I'm 31 and have been into prog since I first heard 'Wish You Were Here' back in high school.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:53
im impressed... in other polls of this style there was a similar quantity of votes between 20 years and 40 + years..
now there are lots of 15-20 wow!
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:54
I'm (gasp!) 45.
I do think, though, that it's largely the metal that initially brings the now pre-dominant younger set here (but once here, many younger members seem to branch out into classic prog).
At first (2+ years ago) we were mostly 40-something year old males here (prog's heyday was around 1970-75), but the site's demographics have changed radically since then. I don't believe the classic prog bands on their own (ie, no prog metal) would have brought in many younger members.
So, my GENERALIZATION (there are always exceptions), drawn from my experience here, is that most classic prog fans are in their 40s & 50s, while most prog metal fans are in their teens & 20s. (There is, of course, increasing movement both ways now, though again, I think a teen is likely more open to old prog, than an oldster like myself is toward prog metal. Tastes in art, etc, tend to be fairly firmly set by middle age.)
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Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:57
32, married, no children and a little shocked that so many teens are here. I qwork with teens and Knowing how boring and fashion-guided they can be, it's a big surprise. My main concern is: those boys are looking for the roots of this music or they are here just becauise the prog metal trend?
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:00
Moogtron III wrote:
Bob Greece wrote:
GPFR wrote:
14 years old here. |
Is that a record? The youngest Prog Archives member.
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We've had a 13 year old before. I forgot his name but I did some
research: Parker, who's now 14 years old, but I don't think he
posts here anymore. |
I was 13 when I joined, if that counts for anything.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:00
moodyxadi wrote:
32, married, no children and a little shocked that so
many teens are here. I qwork with teens and Knowing how boring and
fashion-guided they can be, it's a big surprise. My main concern is:
those boys are looking for the roots of this music or they are here just becauise the prog metal trend? |
I'm not, but I'm sure some are.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:01
Sacred 22 wrote:
Ok, I am one of those guys that remembers much of the 70's prog scene being 49. It's nice to see younger people with an appreciation for progressive rock. We need more of you though. Spread the word!
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:03
moodyxadi wrote:
32, married, no children and a little shocked that so many teens are here. I qwork with teens and Knowing how boring and fashion-guided they can be, it's a big surprise. My main concern is: those boys are looking for the roots of this music or they are here just becauise the prog metal trend? |
As per my post before yours, I believe it's largely the latter case, initially, but then many of our younger members branch out to do the former -- discover the (supposed) roots of prog metal in classic prog.
(Though I believe the two "prog" forms really bear little in common re history, attitude, or sound.)
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Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:03
Found Tool at 14, DT at 17, Genesis at 17.5, Rush at 18, ELP at 18.5 and most of the rest just after 19... and I turn 20 in two months.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:06
YOU SEEMS TO FORGET ME! i'm 13!!!
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:13
Peter Rideout wrote:
I do think, though, that it's largely the metal that initially brings the now pre-dominant younger set here (but once here, many younger members seem to branch out into classic prog). |
That's strange, because I was into Classic Prog when I first came here and now I listen to Progmetal the most.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:19
Me 26-30
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:20
Almost 17.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:28
moodyxadi wrote:
those boys are looking for the roots of this music or they are here just becauise the prog metal trend? |
no, that's wrong. i don't even like metal
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:33
I also love how Progmetal is being referred to as "a trend" in this thread and every fan is suspected of being "wrong" because of "following the trend".
Roots are crucial in understanding this kind of music, I agree with that, but isn't the progression throughout the year just as important if not more?
-- Ivan
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:53
ivansfr0st wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
I do think, though, that it's largely the metal that initially brings the now pre-dominant younger set here (but once here, many younger members seem to branch out into classic prog). |
That's strange, because I was into Classic Prog when I first came here and now I listen to Progmetal the most.
-- Ivan
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Well, it's only a theory/educated guess, and, as I say, there are always exceptions to any general rule.
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:59
I started with prog at the age of 13... Now I have 31... And I swear that my relation with prog along those years has been WONDERFUL!!
But now I have a serious problem cos I'm living in a chilean city where is very hard to buy prog music so I'm making big efforts trying to buy CD's and DVD's... but I'm still alive and hearing the best music of the world!!
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:11
Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:16
I'm 32 and I am amazed seeing so many young people in this site! I thought I was young for prog. But then I realized that I began listening to prog when I was 16. Conclussion: I'm old
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:20
I can't believe that some specialists and special collaborators are so incredibly young. They must have spent all their childhood listening to music 24 hours a day.
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Posted By: retuow
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:20
male, 27 (born in 1979, so I "actively" experienced the seventies )
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:22
ivansfr0st wrote:
I also love how Progmetal is being referred to as "a trend" in this thread and every fan is suspected of being "wrong" because of "following the trend".
Roots are crucial in understanding this kind of music, I agree with that, but isn't the progression throughout the year just as important if not more?
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I wouldn't read too much into one post from one member, or the use of one particular word that can be interpreted in differing senses. (I also suspect that that person's mother tongue may not be English.)
Using only text to communicate with strangers can and does easily lead to many misunderstandings. For example, sarcasm, as in your opening "I also love how" does not come across clearly in type. A non-native English speaker could readily think that you really meant "love," instead of your (implied) "I am irritated by."
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:24
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Me 26-30 |
Let me guess..... 28??
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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:31
Im in the 31-35 block myself, it nice to see such a wide range of ages, good to have different perspectives,
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 14:39
I'm in the 41 - 45 bracket, been into prog (and much else besides) for 30 years now. It's interesting that a lot of younger fans are emerging - for a long time prog was as drastically uncool as it was possible to be, but finally the tide seems to be turning.
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Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:08
sm sm wrote:
Progressive rock could be birth related
Progressive rock is much like jazz or classical music, thus
there will only be a limited audience for this music as it does not
have easy to listen to catchy riffs or it performers are not able to dance around on stage and still be able to play the music
Progressive rock came of age with a boomer population where the
small percentage of fans was still big enough to financially support
making such records and touring.
When a similar boomer population occurs, then such complex music will be more accessible
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You've obviously not seen footage of Ian Anderson in Concert in the 70's
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:08
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Me 26-30 |
You travel in time machine? Today 30, tomorrow 26?
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:09
GPFR wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Bob Greece wrote:
GPFR wrote:
14 years old here. |
Is that a record? The youngest Prog Archives member.
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We've had a 13 year old before. I forgot his name but I did some research: Parker, who's now 14 years old, but I don't think he posts here anymore.
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I was 13 when I joined, if that counts for anything.
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It does!
But Abstrakt is the current record holder, being 13 now.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:11
Abstrakt wrote:
YOU SEEMS TO FORGET ME! i'm 13!!! |
Keep posting and then be sure we won't forget you! You're the youngest, if we don't forget anybody else.
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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:20
20 years young
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Posted By: mrdurganator
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:22
i'm 16. wow, a lot of other 15-20's! i have friends who listen to bands like pink floyd and they've never even heard of 'prog'. it's just good music basically. hopefully there'll be a prog rennaissance in the next 5 years with so many young listeners of it.
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Posted By: thedemonsloth
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:28
I'm 19, I think you might want to consider the likely age to post on a messageboard for the final scientific analysis of this poll. The average messageboard member is 15-20 making them a majority in any forum.
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Posted By: komplexnous
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 15:58
I'm not a HUGE fan of prog anymore at 21, but about a couple years ago it was my favorite genre. Lately, I've been into what most call Minimalism, Ambient, Avant Garde, Classical Electronica (or some nonsense like that), Glitch, etc, etc..... Basically, music influenced by FLUXUS, Classical, Jazz, and art-influenced Electronica (not that dance crap). :) I think Prog will eventually bleed into such artful music when it reaches it's next step. Maybe SW will help bring it to the next step with another release. I hope he is done with the Pop+Prog thing. Of course, for much lighter music, Prog (and any other type of music besides the garbage corporate BS like most Hip-POP, boring Rock, etc..) is always nice to play, even some more intelligent Pop sometimes (despite over-the-top production with waveforms being cut). :D
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 17:18
thedemonsloth wrote:
I'm 19, I think you might want to consider the likely age to post on a messageboard for the final scientific analysis of this poll. The average messageboard member is 15-20 making them a majority in any forum.
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That's a good point!
But:
What about Octogenarian forums?
Geritol User forums?
Alzheimer's Sufferer forums? (But they probably always forget their passwords.)
Titanic Survivor forums?
Civil War Vet forums?
Huh? What about those, smart guy?
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 17:27
[QUOTE=Syzygy]I'm in the 41 - 45 bracket, been into prog (and much else besides) for 30 years now. It's interesting that a lot of younger fans are emerging - for a long time prog was as drastically uncool as it was possible to be, but finally the tide seems to be turning.[/QUOTE]
The tide may be "turning here (then again, "prog" might just be turning into metal), on a prog site, but I wonder if there's a shift/trend toward prog in youth as a whole? Somehow I doubt it, especially if we leave out the metal.
Every new generation seems to discover Floyd and Zeppelin, but classic Yes? Genesis? Gentle Giant? VDGG? Magma?
Just a gut feeling (but based on observation teaching in highschools & now college) -- no offense intended to you, Syzygy, or anyone!
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 18:26
Peter Rideout wrote:
[QUOTE=Syzygy] I'm in the 41 - 45 bracket, been into prog (and much else besides) for 30 years now. It's interesting that a lot of younger fans are emerging - for a long time prog was as drastically uncool as it was possible to be, but finally the tide seems to be turning. [/QUOTE]
The tide may be "turning here (then again, "prog" might just be turning into metal), on a prog site, but I wonder if there's a shift/trend toward prog in youth as a whole? Somehow I doubt it, especially if we leave out the metal.
Every new generation seems to discover Floyd and Zeppelin, but classic Yes? Genesis? Gentle Giant? VDGG? Magma?
Just a gut feeling (but based on observation teaching in highschools & now college) -- no offense intended to you, Syzygy, or anyone! |
There are so few young prog fans, actually
Keep in mind that this is an international forum, and by worldwide standards there's very few young prog fans. Especially in comparison to punk or hip hop. Prog is about as uncool as it gets, but the thing is that we(me at least) Don't give a sh*t in the least if we're the only prog fans 10 miles around. NO ONE in ,my school likes or even knows prog. Oh wait, I;ve seen a Yes and a Tool shirt once... over the course of five years. There's a lot of Pink Floyd fans around, but very few if any know other prog. The closest prog fan I know is King Of Siam(30 miles or so from my town).
And please quit blaming everything on metal.
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 19:00
The Miracle wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
[QUOTE=Syzygy] I'm in the 41 - 45 bracket, been into prog (and much else besides) for 30 years now. It's interesting that a lot of younger fans are emerging - for a long time prog was as drastically uncool as it was possible to be, but finally the tide seems to be turning. [/QUOTE]
The tide may be "turning here (then again, "prog" might just be turning into metal), on a prog site, but I wonder if there's a shift/trend toward prog in youth as a whole? Somehow I doubt it, especially if we leave out the metal.
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And please quit blaming everything on metal. |
Can I at least blame metal on metal, Miracle Whip?
Seriously though, don't you think the great majority of the 14 - 25 set came here via metal/prog metal? That's just what I think I see -- there was no prejudice toward the music intended. I think that (a large part of) what many of the younger members here call "prog," I (and many other older prog fans) would call metal.
In general, the two rock forms and their respective fans were almost diametrically opposed, when I was a young fellow....
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 19:08
Peter Rideout wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
[QUOTE=Syzygy] I'm in the 41 - 45 bracket, been into prog (and much else besides) for 30 years now. It's interesting that a lot of younger fans are emerging - for a long time prog was as drastically uncool as it was possible to be, but finally the tide seems to be turning. [/QUOTE]
The tide may be "turning here (then again, "prog" might just be turning into metal), on a prog site, but I wonder if there's a shift/trend toward prog in youth as a whole? Somehow I doubt it, especially if we leave out the metal.
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And please quit blaming everything on metal. |
Can I at least blame metal on metal, Miracle Whip?
Seriously though, don't you think the great majority of the 14 - 25 set came here via metal/prog metal? That's just what I think I see -- there was no prejudice toward the music intended, but I think that what many of the younger members here call "prog," I (and many other older prog fans) would call metal.
In general, the two rock forms (and their fans) were almost diametrically opposed, when I was a young fellow.... |
I'd say 50/50. Most of the Velvet Crew are not the biggest metal fans. A couple are even stuck in the 70's Most close minded metal fans leave as newbies and don't make it far. I found this place via metal myself (searching for "Six Degrees...") but I didn't come here for metal only(I didn't even know much prog metal outside of DT).
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 19:21
I'm 15 and I think I was in prog since I was a baby when my father played Genesis on the CD player, I can remember !!
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Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 19:32
Does this poll show prog-rock is becoming much more popular with young people? Or does it show that ages 15-20 have a lot of time on their hands and need to get lives? I wonder which, no offense, as I am in this group too.
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 19:42
Meddler wrote:
I started with The Moodies around 13 and then Dark Side around 14. I'm 15 right now.
I would say that my tastesin music are GREATLY effected by my dad and mom's music, if it weren't for them, I would be listening to this MTV/Radio crap that everyone else my age listens to.
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same here. I'm fifteen and mom and dad's music defnitely turned me own to prog. mom's a big tull and tangerine dream fan, and dad loves all the old stuff (genesis, yes, king crimson, supertramp, rush, floyd). Out of those i only really listen to floyd and a little tangerine dream. Still a metalhead at heart though (Ive been listening to it since I was 7)
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 19:44
mrdurganator wrote:
i'm 16. wow, a lot of other 15-20's! i have friends who listen to bands like pink floyd and they've never even heard of 'prog'. it's just good music basically. hopefully there'll be a prog rennaissance in the next 5 years with so many young listeners of it. |
i can only hope. none of my friends listen to prog. (besides opeth) and i have one friend that listens to godspeed. (we get buzzed and listen to Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven. Its great!)
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 21:41
Oh darn, and I almost felt special
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 02:07
Atkingani wrote:
Sacred 22 wrote:
Ok, I am one of those guys that remembers much of the 70's prog scene being 49. It's nice to see younger people with an appreciation for progressive rock. We need more of you though. Spread the word!
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I could have written this... word by word, number by number. |
Thankfully we have the internet. I fear that without the internet, progressive rock would have died years ago. Even the heavy weights such as YES had to straddle the pop fence to reel a few more fans in. All we can hope is that those fans went back in time with their curiosities and discovered the music of the 70's. We need more young people not only listening to progressive rock, but the classics and jazz as well. It's so important for a healthy society to celebrate it's artists and allow free reign so as to have the most creative and thoughtful music at all times.
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Posted By: Serguilloche
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 04:49
34 years old, got my first Rush album at 13.
So, age related? I would say no.
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 07:57
I'll be 27 in this October.
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 09:53
saarepiiga wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
OK - I'm a woman and over 40. We're quite few here (I've counted five so far), but that doesn't bother me at all. |
I'm a woman too. So it makes 6 of us!
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I don't know whether Ghost Rider counted me in the 5 but I am a woman too and between 45-50. So you could say for those who are new to the forum, that I was definitely "there" late 60's early 70's at the prog rock revolution. A wonderful time, musically, to be alive
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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 11:07
i'm 15 years old
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 11:14
NaturalScience wrote:
Here's more than you needed for your demographic:
Male, 29, married, first kid due in two months.
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Hey, congrats!
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 21:19
valravennz wrote:
saarepiiga wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
OK - I'm a woman and over 40. We're quite few here (I've counted five so far), but that doesn't bother me at all. |
I'm a woman too. So it makes 6 of us!
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I don't know whether Ghost Rider counted me in the 5 but I am a woman too and between 45-50. So you could say for those who are new to the forum, that I was definitely "there" late 60's early 70's at the prog rock revolution. A wonderful time, musically, to be alive |
YEA!!!!
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Posted By: Zoso
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 01:46
lightbulb_son wrote:
Meddler wrote:
I started with The Moodies around 13 and then Dark Side around 14. I'm 15 right now.
I
would say that my tastesin music are GREATLY effected by my dad and
mom's music, if it weren't for them, I would be listening to this
MTV/Radio crap that everyone else my age listens to.
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same here. I'm fifteen and mom and dad's music defnitely turned me
own to prog. mom's a big tull and tangerine dream fan, and dad loves
all the old stuff (genesis, yes, king crimson, supertramp, rush,
floyd). Out of those i only really listen to floyd and a little
tangerine dream. Still a metalhead at heart though (Ive been listening
to it since I was 7) |
I've noticed a lot of prog fans my age have been introduced to prog by
their parents, though it's not at all so with me. My dad introduced me
to The Beatles when I was 7, which started me out on the right track,
but I've made all the musical choices up until now. I started getting
realy into Yes when I was about 14, and havent looked back, getting
into stuff like Genesis, King Crimson, ELP...you guys know how it is.
I'm 16 now, by the way.
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Posted By: Stars Die
Date Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:00
I don't think this poll really shows the truth, I think the Younger fans are more active online, and more active fans as well, I think most proggers are in their fourties...
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Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 08:33
I'm 18 male, student, and i'm proud to be under prog-flag and carry prog-knowledge to people
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Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 10:33
50
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 17:29
21 been lisening to prog for like 5 years it started with Pink Floyd, so im preety new but still i think i have heard preety much of the "Big" prog bands, time to start dig in the prog mud, for more treasures.
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 18:56
19, male, student, and still in prog since almost 3 years
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Posted By: MattNYR
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 21:26
Wow, this poll is a pleasant surprise. I'm 16 and thought I was possibly the only ELP fan still in high school. I'm going to see Keith Emerson in New York City this June and I'm really looking forward to it.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 11:51
I'm 18. Started listening to Dream Theater and Rush four years ago,
neither of which are exactly top of my listening list now
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Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 14:11
I'm 20 (21 soon) man. I've started to listen prog some 2 years ago. Before I liked '70 hard rock (Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Rainbow, Nazarteh, Judas Priest...and Deep Purple which introduced me to progressive rock when I listened their early four albums).
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:50
Loving whatever music isn't that age-related, it's more a media-thing with the kids, the sooner they emancipate themselves from formatted radio and charts-stuff the sooner they can get in touch with other kinds of music.
I have learned that young people are starving for good music and thankful if you introduce them to stuff they don't know...
apart from that: EVERY generation have their IGNORANTS !
41-aged
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Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: April 29 2006 at 23:52
My theory is that the majority of progressive fans are -- in fact -- middle-aged, since they actually were around when most of the classic prog bands were making their music. However, I would hazzard to guess that many are (perhaps consequently) internet illiterate, and do not, then, frequent the archives.
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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 01:28
Peter Rideout wrote:
I'm (gasp!) 45.
I do think, though, that it's largely the metal that initially brings the now pre-dominant younger set here (but once here, many younger members seem to branch out into classic prog).
At first (2+ years ago) we were mostly 40-something year old males here (prog's heyday was around 1970-75), but the site's demographics have changed radically since then. I don't believe the classic prog bands on their own (ie, no prog metal) would have brought in many younger members.
So, my GENERALIZATION (there are always exceptions), drawn from my experience here, is that most classic prog fans are in their 40s & 50s, while most prog metal fans are in their teens & 20s. (There is, of course, increasing movement both ways now, though again, I think a teen is likely more open to old prog, than an oldster like myself is toward prog metal. Tastes in art, etc, tend to be fairly firmly set by middle age.) |
I would Like to add that a LOT of young progheads (such as me) got into prog by Pink Floyd. A whole lot of teenagers absolutely adore Pink Floyd and therefor attracts new audiences to prog rock.
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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 01:29
And I'm 18 by the way.
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