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H to He vs. Pawn Hearts

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Topic: H to He vs. Pawn Hearts
Posted By: Winter Wine
Subject: H to He vs. Pawn Hearts
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 11:36

Finally!! I'm starting to love a full album by Van Der Graaf Generator, They're one of the few bands I like that I generally only listen to certain tracks instead of albums, Even though I actually bought 'H to He..' a few months ago. I decided to give it a spin out of the blue yesterday and ended up listening to it three times, Every song on it I now find amazing, Especially 'Pioneers Over C'

I couldn't find 'Pawn Hearts' in the shops so I downloaded it, Which I don't generally like but how and ever. I always loved 'Man Erg', Fantastic, But like with 'H to He' I never gave the full album more than a couple of spins, Now I'm dying to give it more attention, But I can't stop listening to H to He!

Which do you prefer??

Edit - Could have sworn I spelled that right



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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 11:49
All VDGG, from The Aerosol Gray Machine to World Record, perhaps. But Pawnhearts is somehow perfect...

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 11:55

To be honest this poll is very difficult for me, i love both, my favorite VdGG album is Godbluff followed by this two and World Record...

i dont know... Pawn is specially good, but H to He is awesome...

i dont know what to do



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Posted By: retuow
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:03
I voted Pawn Hearts. Lighthouse Keepers is just incredible. But I really like all
VdG(G) albums, from The Aerosol Grey Machine to Present.

I even like Vital

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Posted By: Duncan
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:11
Winter Wine, if you're feeling blown away by Pioneers, check out the 17-minute version on Vital. It makes the studio version look like a bad joke.

Pawn Hearts is the better of these, but Godbluff/Still Life/World Record are where it's really at.


Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:14
At the moment I play H to He a lot, so that one I prefer, now. Pawn Hearts is a classic album for me. So I'll vote, uuhh,mmmmm..................


Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:19
Love 'em both.

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:27
Both fantastic albums, but I prefer Pawn Hearts.

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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:43
Hmm, there must be something to VDGG, as so many people like them (the Sixth Formers were playing them on the Common Room hifi today!) but I just can't see it. I think it's Hamill's voice and vocal style that turns me off; I quite like the music.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 13:48
Pawn Hearts gets my vote, but only just. 'H to he..' is an excellent album too.

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 13:52
PH


Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 14:08

Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Both fantastic albums, but I prefer Pawn Hearts.

Exactly the same for me!!

 



Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:10
how could one choose? they're both solid albums,


Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 18:57
I love all of them ofcourse, but yes Pawn hearts is the big masterpiece.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 19:05
H to He

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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 05:48

Two incediblly great albums by VDGG.

 Pawn Hearts a very little bit ahead.



Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 07:00
I prefer Pawn Hearts.
However both albums are great. It's pity, that since then they hasn't recorded anything as good as their 68-70's output.

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Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:10
"H to He, Who am the Only One" has more memorable songs. It's just more melodic ( in good sense of meaning ).

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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 05:27
Pawn Hearts is the greatest album of VDGG, and absolutely a masterpiece of prog music, but personally I prefer H to He

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Posted By: Toon
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 06:07
Pawn Hearts.

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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 07:35
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

PH
 
...kind of ambiguity here; PH here stands for "Pawn Hearts", but also can be interpreted as if your preference is Peter Hammill (PH) in general...
 
Both albums are great. I prefer "H to He..." for some reasons...
 


Posted By: fogwalker
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:24
Pawn Hearts for me too. H to He is all fine and dandy - except for Killer which, when all is said and done, is a little bit silly.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:49
oh man.....

as a non-VdGG fan per se.... I always thought H to He was a much stronger album... it sure does get many more listens than Pawn Hearts does at least...


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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 15:05
Love em' both but Pawn Hearts is my favourite!

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 17:49
I think Pawn Hearts is less cohesive. Maybe a 9/10 for me because of all the experimentation, but there are only a few moments throughout where I consider the music completely beautiful. H to He is much more solid.

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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 17:50
I always pronounce Pawn Hearts as Pwn(Own) Hearts.

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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 19:34
Pawn Hearts is more consistent in my opinion. I perfer it to H to He.

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