Script vs Misplaced Childhood
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Topic: Script vs Misplaced Childhood
Posted By: Prog-jester
Subject: Script vs Misplaced Childhood
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:12
Today is Script's birthday!!!It's 23 already!!!
Script is brilliant - flawless work,my favouritest album FOREVER!!!
Childhood have three stunning epics,but the songs(except for Pseudo Silk Kimono and Lavender) are a bit usual...just ordinary good Marillion,4/5.Surely,the atmosphere is awesome,but Scrit's one is great too!
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:18
Inclining towards Misplaced...but Script is a magnificent album.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:18
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:22
Script....
One of the greatest neo albums EVER.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:22
Script , no contest
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:57
Script
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 09:01
Misplaced Childhood is better , let me explain why .... because I like it more
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 11:23
Sean Trane wrote:
Script , no contest |
Misplaced Childhood, No Contest
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 11:33
Script for me !
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 11:35
really like both..
like Misplaced Childhood more I guess.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 11:36
both excellent albums, both are the best Marillionīs albums, and im sure that Script will win this poll
but my vote is for Misplaced Childhood!!
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Posted By: Rushatlantic
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:28
Script, hands down. It is altogether better. Plus, the special edition comes with Grindle (who can deny that?)
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Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:43
Script is pure neo prog ! (I hate that cheesy and pompous keyboards )
I prefer Misplaced Childhood, where the band starts to look for something more sophisticated to his sound...
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 17:53
Rushatlantic wrote:
Script, hands down. It is altogether better. Plus, the special edition comes with Grindle (who can deny that?) |
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 18:24
Script
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 18:29
I like them both equally.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 18:39
Why choose one, when you can have both.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 19:31
meurglysIII wrote:
Why choose one, when you can have both. |
I already do, but Script wins this one for me, one of my all time favourit albums.
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 19:38
I own both so I don't have to decide, but I voted for Script anyway.
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Posted By: Progfans
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 20:15
A'swepe wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Script , no contest |
Misplaced Childhood, No Contest |
But i think this poll has been made in few months ago
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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 20:15
My favorite Fish Marillion song is Assassing.
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 23:35
both are good, I voted for Misplaced Childhood because they are both two of my most listened to albums. But if I had to choose I might go for Script because of the pompous keyboards, and the guitar part in "The Web" is great. Both have excellent but very different lyrics, so it depends on my mood which I think is better.
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Posted By: stuartball
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 03:06
video vertigo wrote:
both are good, I voted for Misplaced Childhood because they are both two of my most listened to albums. But if I had to choose I might go for Script because of the pompous keyboards, and the guitar part in "The Web" is great. Both have excellent but very different lyrics, so it depends on my mood which I think is better. |
I agree that the guitar part in The Web is awesome!
Marillion are probably my favourite band and while the merits of Misplaced Childhood have been discussed for years, in this instance I have to vote for Script. It's a better overall album. There are sections of Misplaced Childhood that are stunning but Script doesn't have a weak moment.
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Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 03:36
Posted By: Gatot
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 03:49
It's hard to compare these two albums cause both are great. But if I HAVE TO choose, I will go for SCRIPT because of following reasons:
1. Script was the hero of prog when at the time (1983) all great bands like Genesis, Yes, etc went pop and only new band MARILLION stood out tall with their "So here I am once more! In a playground of a brokenheart .. One more experience one more entry in a diary self penned! Yeatanother emotional suicide ..." Oh .... what a memorable lyrics man! Can u imagine how happy I was at the time? After a long period of waiting great prog album to come out, new band took the market by the storm ...!!! Marillion rules!!!!!
2. The best ... yeah .. the best Marilion song todate is FORGOTTEN SONS!!!! Yeah .... "Peace on earth and mercy mild. Mother Brown has lost her child ...just another forgotten sons!!!!"
Keep Marillioning ... keep on proggin' ....!!!
Gatot
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 03:57
Thank you Gatot I always thought you have something special to say about Marillion...and these lyrics under your reviews seemed to be so well-known to me... ...they're from Incommunicado?..No,wait...maybe,that's H era?...no it MUST be something from Script-era...Maybe,Charting the Single?..
Just kidding
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 18:22
I've not heard Script... but I really like Misplaced Childhood, so MC gets my vote.
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Posted By: kunangkunangku
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 19:15
misplaced childhood was my first introduction to marillion. it blew me away instantly the first time i listen to it.
but when i had the chance to spin script, i learnt that, as a debut, in a time when prog was nowhere to be seen or heard, script successfully set the bar for what is now neo-prog. it's intricate, complex, and yet captivating. it's a package of irresistible set of songs -- the title track, he knows you know, garden party, and (above all) forgotten sons.
i'll go for script.
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Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 09:36
Script. Ibought it on vinyl when it was first released. It's still my favourite Marillion album AND I still don't see why so many people make such a fuss about MC. It's a good album, but certainly not the classic that many fans consider it to be IMHO.
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Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 08:55
I voted for "Script" because each song is great.
"Misplaced" has a great story but is musically a little weaker IMO.
Cheers.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 08:58
Script.
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Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 09:10
I prefer Script.
I find this album more musically complex and enchanting than Misplaced Childhood.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:06
I know Marillion I've been a big fan since "script" first come out back in 83.
Now the thing is both these Cd`s in question are great but the deciding factor for Misplaced Childhood having the edge lies in Mosley being the drummer ... and Misplaced Childhood seems a more consistent album overall . Basically anybody who says Script is better isn`t hearing what I hear when I play these albums. Misplaced is superior in every way including its production
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Posted By: Mlaen
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:19
Script is great but Misplaced Childhood is untouchable.
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Posted By: Alibongo
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 10:23
I like Misplaced because it follows on each side with the Side A and B suites, however Script is great because of it's got 6 great tracks. I can't really choose but i'll have to go for Misplaced
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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 17:47
Script wins this easily. It is my second favourite Fish-era album, after Clutching At Straws.
Misplaced Childhood is good, but slightly overrated.
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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 17:51
Masque wrote:
I know Marillion I've been a big fan since "script" first come out back in 83.
Now the thing is both these Cd`s in question are great but the deciding factor for Misplaced Childhood having the edge lies in Mosley being the drummer ... and Misplaced Childhood seems a more consistent album overall . Basically anybody who says Script is better isn`t hearing what I hear when I play these albums. Misplaced is superior in every way including its production
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It's always funny when we get someone 'stating a fact' instead of an opinion.
I too, know Marillion, having been a big fan since Script came out.
And I obviously hear things differently. Script has superior songs. And a better atmosphere.
(Now I am stating facts!)
Of course, this is really all personal opinion, as it should be.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 18:31
I like Script a whole lot, MC not so much. CaS owns both though.
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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 18:35
Script for sure!!!
And I am totally looking forward to seing Mick Pointer & Chums play the whole of this classic album on Saturday night..... totally Scriptalicious!!!
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Posted By: CorporalClegg68
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 18:56
This is difficult, but i'd have to go with misplaced childhood, perhaps because I'm more familiar with it, but I have script as well and I think I like misplaced slightly more.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 20:01
chessman wrote:
Masque wrote:
I know Marillion I've been a big fan since "script" first come out back in 83.
Now the thing is both these Cd`s in question are great but the deciding factor for Misplaced Childhood having the edge lies in Mosley being the drummer ... and Misplaced Childhood seems a more consistent album overall . Basically anybody who says Script is better isn`t hearing what I hear when I play these albums. Misplaced is superior in every way including its production
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It's always funny when we get someone 'stating a fact' instead of an opinion.
I too, know Marillion, having been a big fan since Script came out.
And I obviously hear things differently. Script has superior songs. And a better atmosphere.
(Now I am stating facts!)
Of course, this is really all personal opinion, as it should be. | Yes script is great but nowhere near as perfect as misplaced childhood , don`t make me laugh
Marillion made a big improvement to their musicality the moment Fugazi came out with Ian Mosley behind the kit even Rothery started sounding more professional the whole band just sounded more professional ... Mick pointer was an acceptable drummer on Script that said Fish has been quoted in saying" Mick Pointer was an amature who got lucky"
what I consider as "better" always involves some musical theory in the decision and some artististic merit both need to join someplace in the middle, unfortunately script fell short in many ways , that said Script did have atmosphere and in many ways looking back I see it as Fish`s first solo album not so much a Marillion album. When I was a teenager I got into "Script" later on I discovered Peter Gabriel's Genesis and I had a few questions ? (could my beloved Marillion be only a CLONE ? .... SHOCK assassing !!!!) .. it wasn`t till Fugazi that Marillion were strong enough to stand up alone without the Genesis clone tag (in my book) and become an "A" grade example of Prog because their musicality had grown so much they just couldn`t be denied anymore over a small clone issue ... before then they were kind amaturish as Fish indicated. Just watch recital of the script then watch LIVE FROM LORELEY you will see what I`m saying is true ! Loreley really is a great concert and that's not by accident its because Marillion had found what was theirs by that stage they had their sound perfected they even had their stage presence and image worked out better Back in the "script" days Marillion (not Fish he's always been a great performer) looked uncomfortable performing live. All the stuff I have said culminates into some very good reasons why Misplaced Childhood is infact a better Album than Script even if Script has got some wonderful songs on it I must confess the song "Script For a Jesters Tear" is amongst Marillion's finest ever ! and Forgotten sons is one of the best (political) prog songs around though Fish maintains its not political "Minister Minister care for your children ! "
I`m often amused with some peoples "opinions" around here in fact I find it a little bit scary
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 20:26
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 20:38
Of those two, Misplaced Childhood
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Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: January 25 2007 at 21:09
Script is a better album, but Misplaced Childhood is my favorite...
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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: January 26 2007 at 01:43
Ok, don't jump down my throat anyone...... but I am seeing some rough divides here and it's interesting......
(these rules are NOT hard and fast...ok?)
There are two rough divisions,
Those who were 'there' at the time
Those who bought the album retrospectively
It seems generally speaking that if you were there once more in the playground of the empty hearts way beack in '83 then Script is your winner, and if you have been hearing them since, then MC is more likely the winner.
There is a rough divide also between those who sense music in a 'scientific' or 'mathematical' way .V. those of you who feel the emotional values, the anguish more than the missing cymbal or bass note.......
But lets face it, if you are in your late thirties/40-ish now you were a teen when it was released (SCRIPT)...... mind boggling! It was a good time to be a teen!(i know , I was there!) But slightly older/younger and you would've reacted quite differently to the lyrical values, to the passion.... For those of you who say this album is musically complex...... POPPYCOCK! What it does however, is tug at and give recognition to a whole heap angst and turmoil within ourselves, but that is mainly in the vocal (either lyric OR vocal style) It's not a complex album, but it is a SPECIAL album!
I really enjoy BOTH albums, I saw Fish do MC twice on that tour, and I am really looking forward to Script (tomorrow!) Script is definitely the winner for me though!
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 06:02
prog-chick wrote:
...It seems generally speaking that if you were there once more in the playground of the empty hearts way beack in '83 then Script is your winner, and if you have been hearing them since, then MC is more likely the winner...
...It was a good time to be a teen!(i know , I was there!) But slightly older/younger and you would've reacted quite differently to the lyrical values, to the passion...
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I was 16 years and 7 months old when I bought Script on August,1,2003. I suffered from an unmutual love. I wrote my own songs (and still do) and love GENESIS(and still do ). Script is my favourite album of all time(and still does!!!).MC is very good and almost excellent in its dark atmosphere(Berlin Wall and etc...)
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Posted By: ProgKirk
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 12:58
I Haven't heard script yet!!! Bought misplaced childhood yesterday though.... and I think its really great
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 03:54
^Script is a Must!!!
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 06:44
Misplaced Childhood
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Posted By: White Shadow
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 11:10
Script, but not the blowout that many people have claimed it to be. Misplaced is great too.
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 11:13
Definitely Misplaced Childhood for me. Both are indisputably great albums, but Misplaced Childhood is far more polished to my ears and there's by now a clear identity of their own- even more so on 'Clutching At Straws', my personal favourite.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 11:14
I prefer Misplaced Childhood
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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: January 29 2007 at 04:56
Script any day. It would be different if it was Script vs Fugazi though...
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: January 29 2007 at 05:04
Misplaced Childhood
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