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Topic: What are you favorite Prog Rock producers
Posted By: Aaron
Subject: What are you favorite Prog Rock producers
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 18:27

??

I don't really know any, I just realized, besides Alan Parsons.  Is it because most of out bands do it themselves? 

If you have any favorite, list why and what albums they have worked on.

Aaron




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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 19:32

I have a sincere interest in this, please reply

Aaron



Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 19:39
mmm...Alan Parson is not a producer, he is a sound technician!!!...
mmm, let´s see I like Archen Lucanssen...his album always sound excellent
Eddie Offord did a great job helping Yes find their sound...you can really notice that he is not in Going for the one...
Robert Fripp is also very good...but that´s just because I love everything that the guy does.
...I don´t really know many...


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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 19:44

Bob Ezrin is an excellent producer. Did a great job on The Wall & MLOR.

Greg Lake did a great job on BSS!



Posted By: DaleHauskins
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 20:17
England's John Acock,(Steve Hackett/John Hackett/Nick Magnus/Adrian
Legg/Rick Wakeman/Flame Dream/etc.); without a doubt what so ever.As a
youth I learned soo much from him as a producer;as I was a member &
guitarist of Switzerland's prog rock band FLAME DREAM.Mr.Acock use of
Studers,tape and engineering/Mixing is amazing.I am blessed to know
him.Dale Hauskins(Los Angeles guitarist of Switzerland's FLAME DREAM(6LPs
Vertigo Phonogram AG).


Posted By: pero
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:37
Biography by Greg Prato

Unquestionably, one of the most renowned and well-respected producers/engineers in all of rock history is Eddie Kramer. The amount of legendary rock artists he has worked with over his long and illustrious career is staggering — http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:THEBEATLES - the Beatles , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:JIMIHENDRIX - Jimi Hendrix , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:LEDZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin , and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:KISS - Kiss lead his long list of credits, as well as the original http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:WOODSTOCK - Woodstock soundtrack. Born in South Africa, Kramer studied classical piano, cello, and violin as a child, eventually attending the South African College of Music, and moving to England at the age of 19. Shortly after his arrival in England, Kramer recorded local jazz groups in a home-based studio, plus installed hi-fi equipment as a hobby. By 1964, Kramer was hired by Pye Studios and was immediately assigned to work with such esteemed artists as http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:SAMMYDAVISJR. - Sammy Davis Jr. , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:PETULACLARK - Petula Clark , and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:THEKINKS - the Kinks .

During the mid- to late '60s, Kramer made a name for himself with the rock crowd by engineering classic recordings by http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:TRAFFIC - Traffic , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:SMALLFACES - Small Faces , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:THEROLLINGSTonES - the Rolling Stones ( http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:BEGGARSBANQUET - Beggars Banquet ), and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:THEBEATLES - the Beatles (their singles "All You Need Is Love" and "Baby You're a Rich Man"), becoming a much in-demand studio man in the process — leading to his fruitful association with http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:JIMIHENDRIX - Jimi Hendrix . Kramer engineered all four of http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix 's groundbreaking albums the guitarist issued during his brief career — 1967's http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:AREYOUEXPERIENCED? - Are You Experienced? and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:AXIS:BOLDASLOVE, - Axis: Bold As Love, 1968's double album http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:ELECTRICLADYLAND - Electric Ladyland , and 1970's http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:BANDOFGYPSYS - Band of Gypsys . Along with his production/engineering duties, Kramer also helped http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix create and design a custom-built recording studio in New York City, Electric Lady. Although http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix wouldn't live to see its completion in the early '70s, Electric Lady almost automatically became one of the world's most popular recording studios.

In addition to his work with Electric Lady, Kramer continued to man the boards for other projects, including the best-selling http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:WOODSTOCK - Woodstock soundtrack, which made Kramer one of the most in-demand producers of live albums by rock artists of the era. He worked on live recordings by http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:LEDZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:JIMIHENDRIX - Jimi Hendrix , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:KISS - Kiss , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:JOHNMAYALL - John Mayall , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:THEROLLINGSTonES - the Rolling Stones , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:PETERFRAMPTon - Peter Frampton , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:JOECOCKER - Joe Cocker , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:CURTISMAYFIELD - Curtis Mayfield , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:SANTANA - Santana , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:DAVIDBOWIE - David Bowie , and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:DEREK&THEDOMINOES - Derek & the Dominoes . Add to it several of http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:LEDZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin 's most enduring albums ( http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:LEDZEPPELINII - Led Zeppelin II , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:HOUSESOFTHEHOLY - Houses of the Holy , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:PHYSICALGRAFFITI - Physical Graffiti , and the motion picture soundtrack http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:THESonGREMAINSTHE - The Song Remains the Same ), as well as overseeing several posthumous http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix collections throughout the remainder of the decade ( http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:CRYOFLOVE - Cry of Love , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:HENDRIXINTHEWEST - Hendrix in the West , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:WARHEROES - War Heroes , among others), and you'd think Kramer's plate was full. But this proved not to be the case.

In 1973, two unknown musicians were owed money from Electric Lady from session work they'd done for the studio. But instead of asking for the money, the duo ( http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:GENESIMMonS - Gene Simmons and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:PAULSTANLEY - Paul Stanley ) asked if Kramer would be interested in producing their new group's demo tape. Kramer accepted, touching off a relationship with theatrical heavy metallists http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:KISS - Kiss that would last throughout the '70s — resulting in such hard rock classics as their breakthrough http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:ALIVE - Alive , plus http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:ROCKANDROLLOVER - Rock and Roll Over , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:LOVEGUN - Love Gun , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:ALIVEII - Alive II , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:DOUBLEPLATINUM - Double Platinum , and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:ACEFREHLEY - Ace Frehley 's 1978 solo album (in a strange twist of fate, Kramer chose to work on http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:KISS - Kiss ' http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:ALIVE - Alive release instead of on the debut of another up-and-coming rock outfit, http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:BOSTon - Boston ).

Kramer spent the '80s producing and engineering primarily heavy metal acts ( http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:FASTWAY - Fastway , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:ANTHRAX - Anthrax , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:ALCATRAZZ - Alcatrazz , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:RAVEN - Raven , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:LOUDNESS - Loudness , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:TRIUMPH - Triumph , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:WHITESNAKE - Whitesnake , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:ACEFREHLEY - Ace Frehley 's post- http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:KISS - Kiss solo outfit, http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:FREHLEY\'SCOMET - Frehley's Comet , etc.), with varying degrees of success. But the '90s saw Kramer once again getting involved with http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:KISS - Kiss for their http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:ALIVEIII - Alive III set, as well as numerous http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix projects (once http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix 's family got the rights back to his music, Kramer was put back in control of overseeing subsequent releases) — including the tribute albums http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:STonEFREE - Stone Free and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:INFROMTHESTORM - In From the Storm , plus such further archival releases as http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:FIRSTRAYSOFTHENEW - First Rays of the New Rising Sun , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:LIVEATTHEFILLMORE - Live at the Fillmore East , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:LIVEATWOODSTOCK - Live at Woodstock , http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:BBCSESSIonS - BBC Sessions , and the four-disc box set, http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:THEJIMIHENDRIXEXPE - The Jimi Hendrix Experience . During this time, Kramer also co-authored the http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix -related books Hendrix: Setting the Record Straight and Jimi Hendrix Sessions.

Eddie Kramer continues to engineer/produce artists (including http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:BUDDYGUY - Buddy Guy 's Grammy-winning 1995 release, http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=2:SLIPPIN\'IN - Slippin' In ) Kramer has also issued a three and a half hour instructional video, titled Adventures in Modern Recording, and appeared in the 1997 http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=1:HENDRIX - Hendrix documentary The Making of Electric Ladyland.



Posted By: Jools
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:27

I've always liked Chris Kimsey, he produced Marillion's Misplaced Childhood and Clutching At Straws and also Killing Joke and some early Cult, there may be many more bands that I don't know of.  He had a way of making everything sound pretty crisp without anything sounding too big which was very rare of rock in the 80's.  None of the albums he has produced that I have heard sound dated.

He may not strictly be a "prog" producer but I would consider buying albums with his name on them.



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 08:25
I must say I usually have no idea who produces an album. That's what interests me in the least. I know Nick Mason produced Steve Hillage's "Green".

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:20
Easily Terry Brown (love what he did for Rush) 


Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:43
Eddie Offord with what he did for Yes.  In the age of vinyl he made crappy stereos and hi-fi's sound like the greatest thing since sliced bread.  "The Yes Album" was a HUGE step forward in fidelity.

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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:43
Eddie Offord.


Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:48

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Easily Terry Brown (love what he did for Rush) 

Good one!!  He also did excellent work for Fates Warning and many other bands!!



Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 14:14
Yeah, I would have to go with Offord as well.

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 15:40

Me too Eddie Offord. He really did a great job with Yes and ELP.

And I always liked David Hentschel, who worked with Genesis.

I like Trevor Horn too, but the albums he produces can seldom be called prog.

And since the Beatles are officially prog these days: George Martin!!!



Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:19
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I must say I usually have no idea who produces an album. That's what interests me in the least. I know Nick Mason produced Steve Hillage's "Green".


And Shamal if I remember correctly, among other albums.


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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:58
A.A. Lucassen

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Posted By: DoubleD
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 17:32
Terry Brown, primarily for Moving Pictures.  The production on that album is impeccable.


Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:14
Rupert Hine is an excellent producer!

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:22
Originally posted by Chicapah Chicapah wrote:

Eddie Offord with what he did for Yes. 


and ELP as well

the prog producer without peer IMO.


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Posted By: andYouandI45
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 20:48

What dose a producer do?

I have always wondered this but i have no idea.



Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:30

David Bottrill

 Tripple Grammy award winner,produced for Peter Gabriel,Tool,King Crimson,David Sylvian,Mudvayne,Silverchair etc.



Posted By: DrGoon
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 03:30
One of the greatest progressive rock producers of all time was Conrad (Conny) Plank, legendary Brain Records producer of Cluster, Ash Ra, Neu!, Kraftwerk, Grobschnitt, Guru Guru, Holger Czukay and almost everybody else of importance in Germany. You almost certainly know his sound - if you need something more well known and modern, listen to In The Garden by The Eurthymics (their first, most transcendant and finest album) or Ultravox's Vienna.

John Anthony is pretty darned important too - early works by all of VDGG, Genesis, Roxy Music, Lindisfarne, Al Stewart, and Queen.

I'm surprised that there's been no mention of Hugh Padgham, who's done more engineering with progressive rock bands than production, but who is very famous for producing the Genesis sound of the 80s (not a big fan of this period of Genesis myself, but the production's great) the later Police albums (which are expansive, beautiful and captivating).

Good that people picked Terry Brown - in my mind, his absence is a large part of the reason Rush's later albums miss the mark, even when full of strong compositions.

Steve Hillage, Brian Eno and Todd Rungren are among progressive rock artists who are also important producers of many others' work.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:31
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

Bob Ezrin is an excellent producer. Did a great job on The Wall & MLOR.

Greg Lake did a great job on BSS!

How did Lake manage to make BSS sound like it was being played through a transistor radio??

I like David Hentshell (Genesis) and Terry Brown (Rush) Other producers I like; Eddy Offord, Hugh Pagdam (although not with Genesis - he should be locked up for the hash he made of those already awful albums)



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:38
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

... Hugh Pagdam (although not with Genesis - he should be locked up for the hash he made of those already awful albums)

I wonder then, what albums with Hugh Padgham do you like?



Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 08:41
Originally posted by andYouandI45 andYouandI45 wrote:

What dose a producer do?

I have always wondered this but i have no idea.

A producer is basically in charge of bringing an album together. They control the recording process and will help the band to realise their musical ideas with whatever techniques they possess. A producer can make or break an album.



Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 09:32

Gus Dudgeon was always a name I looked for

TP,

on the UK and US level, you are right : one might even say that a producer is an artistic director

However in Continental Europe a producer is more the one financing the record (from the studio to the factory), but this varies greatly. In terms of Author's right (divided in three parts: Author - lyrics, Compser- music, and producer) he gets almost 50% (which I find scandalous). But he is the one taking the (calculated) risk 



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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 12:14

Just something I have been thinking about lately,

for example I was looking at some Camel albums and they use the same producer for 3 consecutive album, so it makes me wonder if this producer has produced any other great albums

but i have no good way of looking this up... or do I?

Aaron



Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 07:04
Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

Just something I have been thinking about lately,

for example I was looking at some Camel albums and they use the same producer for 3 consecutive album, so it makes me wonder if this producer has produced any other great albums

but i have no good way of looking this up... or do I?

Aaron

Valid question, and I do not know of a way of looking it up

As far as I know there has never been a book on producer

Maybe worth investigating on this

 

In Germany in the early 70's Conny Plank was definitely THE producer, (along with Dieter Dierckx, I think)

Almost every album he produced is an excellent one



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 08:54
Has anybody mentioned Terry Brown yet?


Oh yes Blacksword has. Doh!!




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