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Topic: Is Yes really prog?
Posted By: Lord Qwerty
Subject: Is Yes really prog?
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:19
Well, everyone else was questioning the validity of other bands, so Lord Qwerty felt like taking the time to focus on a band he doesn't really feel matches the criteria of 'Progressive'. After all, they were never as innovative and diverse as the Beatles, as emotionally charged as Radiohead, or as influential as Deep Purple. (There are EASILY a hundred metal bands for every prog band). That, and they are FAR less consistent than any of the aforementioned bands.  Also, this is the band that popularized the notion that you had be a vituoso (Whatever that means!) to be considered a 'progressive' musician. These are Lord Qwerty's technical and moral reasons why he does not consider Yes to be a progressive band.

Therefore, he believes that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.


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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:22
I leik TOTALLIE AGREE!!!111

YEs shuld be remuved nd GREEN DAY ShoulD be ADDED~~!!!




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Posted By: krapulax
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:28
Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:



Therefore, I believe that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.


you're right. genesis should be removed too, but not immediately, we can wait till tommorrow


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:28

Your kidding right?

Virtuoso:

  1. A musician with masterly ability, technique, or personal style.
  2. A person with masterly skill or technique in the arts.
  3. A person with a strong interest in the fine arts, especially in antiquities.
  4. Archaic. A very learned person

 



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:31

Actually, I think everybody should be removed - then we can do away with this site altogether and I can spend my time at work on more productive endeavors.....Naaahhhhh..

JS



Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:35

happy day folks...

oh, by the way, nice topic



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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:35
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Your kidding right?



Um, yeah, I think he's kidding, dude.

That's why I strongly encourage the use of sarcasm tags.

Example:
<sarcasm>Oh, I completely agree with you. Yes should be removed from the Archives post haste! </sarcasm>


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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:36
Anyone who refers to themselves in the third person is a troll.


DFTT




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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:36
If Yes are not the archetypal 70's prog rock band..............then I'm losfawords(begorah)

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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:39

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

If Yes are not the archetypal 70's prog rock band..............then I'm losfawords(begorah)

 Begorah!



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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:39
Yes...get rid of them. As a matter of fact...get eid of everyone except Styx, The Beatles, Asia, Queen and Deep Purple...the true heroes of progressive rock.


Posted By: Lord Qwerty
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:41
Originally posted by Hierophant Hierophant wrote:

Anyone who refers to themselves in the third person is a troll.


DFTT




Don't be so mean to to trolls. I don't tolerate racism.


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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:43

maybe lord qwerty isnt kidding...

Chirstmas Island??



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:45

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Originally posted by Hierophant Hierophant wrote:

Anyone who refers to themselves in the third person is a troll.


DFTT




Don't be so mean to to trolls. I don't tolerate racism.

I find Lord Qwertys pretentiousness rather funny to be honest



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Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:47

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Well, everyone else was questioning the validity of other bands, so Lord Qwerty felt like taking the time to focus on a band he doesn't really feel matches the criteria of 'Progressive'. After all, they were never as innovative and diverse as the Beatles, as emotionally charged as Radiohead, or as influential as Deep Purple. (There are EASILY a hundred metal bands for every prog band). That, and they are FAR less consistent than any of the aforementioned bands.  Also, this is the band that popularized the notion that you had be a vituoso (Whatever that means!) to be considered a 'progressive' musician. These are my technical and moral reasons why I do not consider Yes to be a progressive band.

Therefore, I believe that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.

 

LQ I am glad to see you have a sense of humor.  But I don't think Yes should be the next to go.  Jethro Tull has already been eliminated.  I think ELP should be next, followed by Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes, Gentle Giant, VDGG leaving Genesis the only true progressive rock band.



Posted By: Lord Qwerty
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:48
Well, Lord Qwerty does believe he has valid points, though he cannot claim to have great conviction in his argument.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:49
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Originally posted by Hierophant Hierophant wrote:

Anyone who refers to themselves in the third person is a troll.


DFTT




Don't be so mean to to trolls. I don't tolerate racism.

I find Lord Qwertys pretentiousness rather funny to be honest


I don't.

and its" Losfer Words (Big 'Orra)"...my bad.



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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:49
You broke character! That should have read:

"Well, Lord Qwerty believes he has valid points, though he cannot claim to have great conviction in his argument."

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Posted By: Codis
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:54
Love the new sig WinterWine!  

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:54

Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

You broke character! That should have read:

"Well, Lord Qwerty believes he has valid points, though he cannot claim to have great conviction in his argument."



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Posted By: Lord Qwerty
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 13:57
Lord Qwerty did no such thing, vile urchin!! *edits all posts to hide his shame*

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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:02

Originally posted by Codis Codis wrote:

Love the new sig WinterWine!  

 Thank you, I thought of it while listening to Topographic Oceans.

Just kidding



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Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:09
Originally posted by ken4musiq ken4musiq wrote:

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Well, everyone else was questioning the validity of other bands, so Lord Qwerty felt like taking the time to focus on a band he doesn't really feel matches the criteria of 'Progressive'. After all, they were never as innovative and diverse as the Beatles, as emotionally charged as Radiohead, or as influential as Deep Purple. (There are EASILY a hundred metal bands for every prog band). That, and they are FAR less consistent than any of the aforementioned bands.  Also, this is the band that popularized the notion that you had be a vituoso (Whatever that means!) to be considered a 'progressive' musician. These are my technical and moral reasons why I do not consider Yes to be a progressive band.

Therefore, I believe that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.

 

LQ I am glad to see you have a sense of humor.  But I don't think Yes should be the next to go.  Jethro Tull has already been eliminated.  I think ELP should be next, followed by Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes, Gentle Giant, VDGG leaving Genesis the only true progressive rock band.




Hahaha.  I am glad to see that everyone has a sense of humor today.  Gentle Giant could never ever be considered a non-prog band.  They are pactically in the definition.  Hahaha.  I love the Giant...

Anyway, I am glad that Lord Qwerty decided to say something about Yes because I have always sort of felt that way.  I mean, I like them, I think they are progressive but not as much as a lot of other bands and definately not deserving of the number 1 album of all time.  THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE!  Way to go, Thick as a Brick.  <3


Posted By: vogre
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:11
Nah. Yes have never been prog. Actually prog didn't ever exist. It's all about illusions of complex time signatures and pseudo-classical tunes that particular type of people have while listening to the music of some weird rock bands that were rejected by the society.


Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:19
The only REALLY progressive band was The Wombles. The added drama, costumes and did away with proper instruments completely.

Add them immediately!


Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:28
As this thread appears to be for amusement only, I've moved it to "Just for fun".


Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:28
this topic is priceless! 

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Posted By: mission4prog
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:28

Yes, is definately.

The Beatles, however...what's the deal with that?

m4p



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:30
Originally posted by mission4prog mission4prog wrote:

Yes, is definately.

The Beatles, however...what's the deal with that?

m4p

Oh Jesus Christ no



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:38
The Big Generator is way more progressive than Abbey Road

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Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:40
..........      I am haveing a hard time trying to figure out who's kidding and who's not.


YES? Not a Prog-band? NO, I disagree, YES are prog.

"Say NO to YES! "    

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:46

Just for Fun section

Yes isnt prog man.. you know that...



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:48

I'm not much of a Yes fan myself, always preferred The Chimpmunks

Found them far more innovative and mature



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 14:54

Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

The only REALLY progressive band was The Wombles. The added drama, costumes and did away with proper instruments completely.

Add them immediately!

 Remember Your A Womble

 



Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 15:10

When they started out - and even when they were in their heyday, Yes weren't prog, and nor were the other so-called "Prog Greats".

The term "Prog Rock" was invented posthumously...



Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 15:21

Gentle Tull totally agrees with Lord Qwerty!

I think we should take out Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, and other "prog" greats, and add Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, and Fall Out Boy. They rock!



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Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 15:51
Originally posted by Legoman Legoman wrote:

Originally posted by ken4musiq ken4musiq wrote:

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Well, everyone else was questioning the validity of other bands, so Lord Qwerty felt like taking the time to focus on a band he doesn't really feel matches the criteria of 'Progressive'. After all, they were never as innovative and diverse as the Beatles, as emotionally charged as Radiohead, or as influential as Deep Purple. (There are EASILY a hundred metal bands for every prog band). That, and they are FAR less consistent than any of the aforementioned bands.  Also, this is the band that popularized the notion that you had be a vituoso (Whatever that means!) to be considered a 'progressive' musician. These are my technical and moral reasons why I do not consider Yes to be a progressive band.

Therefore, I believe that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.

 

LQ I am glad to see you have a sense of humor.  But I don't think Yes should be the next to go.  Jethro Tull has already been eliminated.  I think ELP should be next, followed by Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes, Gentle Giant, VDGG leaving Genesis the only true progressive rock band.




Hahaha.  I am glad to see that everyone has a sense of humor today.  Gentle Giant could never ever be considered a non-prog band.  They are pactically in the definition.  Hahaha.  I love the Giant...

Anyway, I am glad that Lord Qwerty decided to say something about Yes because I have always sort of felt that way.  I mean, I like them, I think they are progressive but not as much as a lot of other bands and definately not deserving of the number 1 album of all time.  THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE!  Way to go, Thick as a Brick.  <3


Last week I may have been excited about that but then I read that TAAB was number one, then number two, then number one, then number three, then number two, then number two, then number four, then number three, then ....

How's this . . .I think ELP should be next, followed by Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, VDGG leaving Gentle Giant,the only true progressive rock band


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 15:55

Get rid of Yes and get Mariah in here ASAP!

I know prog when I hear it and Yes is closer to pop than Madonna. Have you guys never heard Close to the Edge? It sounds like the flamin' Bee Gees...

 



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Posted By: Lex C
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 19:58
Everyone knows that Yes is absolute garbage, they have never done anything cool like epic songs and albums. I think that it is only fitting that Yes Rush Gentle Giant Opeth Pain of Salvation Dream Theater Therion Genisis King Crimson Marillion Frank Zappa Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd all get removed as well, music is overrated I mean, come on, people on this site must be doing something wrong, everyone watches MTV now because they sure as hell know real music, can only come from power chords and music turntables.


Posted By: Lord Qwerty
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 20:03
Besides, listening to too much of Jon Anderson sounds like it could be a bad influence on some people...

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Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 20:05

Originally posted by Lex C Lex C wrote:

Everyone knows that Yes is absolute garbage, they have never done anything cool like epic songs and albums. I think that it is only fitting that Yes Rush Gentle Giant Opeth Pain of Salvation Dream Theater Therion Genisis King Crimson Marillion Frank Zappa Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd all get removed as well, music is overrated I mean, come on, people on this site must be doing something wrong, everyone watches MTV now because they sure as hell know real music, can only come from power chords and music turntables.

 

I think I know what a power chord is, but what is a music turntable?

 

I agree, I love that stuff they play on MTV and FUSE. it rocks.  it really answers the question once and for all.  You can make a lot of sound with those things are your hips and not make any music; and you can so it for years, decades . . centuries? Nothing like clarity.  I want my MTV.



Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 20:06

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Besides, listening to too much of Jon Anderson sounds like it could be a bad influence on some people...

 

It's been known to cause hemmroids and internal bleeding.



Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 20:08

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Well, everyone else was questioning the validity of other bands, so Lord Qwerty felt like taking the time to focus on a band he doesn't really feel matches the criteria of 'Progressive'. After all, they were never as innovative and diverse as the Beatles, as emotionally charged as Radiohead, or as influential as Deep Purple. (There are EASILY a hundred metal bands for every prog band). That, and they are FAR less consistent than any of the aforementioned bands.  Also, this is the band that popularized the notion that you had be a vituoso (Whatever that means!) to be considered a 'progressive' musician. These are Lord Qwerty's technical and moral reasons why he does not consider Yes to be a progressive band.

Therefore, he believes that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.
 

Frickin hell the asylum has opened



Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 20:09

???



Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 20:10
Originally posted by Fragile Fragile wrote:

Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Well, everyone else was questioning the validity of other bands, so Lord Qwerty felt like taking the time to focus on a band he doesn't really feel matches the criteria of 'Progressive'. After all, they were never as innovative and diverse as the Beatles, as emotionally charged as Radiohead, or as influential as Deep Purple. (There are EASILY a hundred metal bands for every prog band). That, and they are FAR less consistent than any of the aforementioned bands.  Also, this is the band that popularized the notion that you had be a vituoso (Whatever that means!) to be considered a 'progressive' musician. These are Lord Qwerty's technical and moral reasons why he does not consider Yes to be a progressive band.

Therefore, he believes that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.
 

Frickin hell the asylum has opened




hhahahhaha.... some people just don't get enough love from Mommy and Daddy I guess.


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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 20:36

i believe that yes arnt a prog band  because they arnt popular like brittney spears or simple plan.  any idiot knows that a good prog band gets tons of mtv play

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in case you didnt notice stan the tony man was beign sarcastic. 



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 00:58
Originally posted by stan the man stan the man wrote:

i believe that yes arnt a prog band  because they arnt popular like brittney spears or simple plan.  any idiot knows that a good prog band gets tons of mtv play

 

in case you didnt notice stan the tony man was beign sarcastic. 

ROFLMAO



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Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 01:09


Posted By: kev2307
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 03:23

we all seem to be going for the one band who are Prog Rock, I mean this in a roundabout way.  I have such sweet dreams when I listen to yes and all my friends and all the good people I know get the same feelings too.

I understand we all have to have a view, so LQ yours is no disgrace for creating such a sad argument (IMO) for creating this obscure thread and you and I know you are just been humurousbut they do write wonderous stories and everyone should create a ritual to listen to them every week    THEN  they will feel the full heart of the sunrise from the south side of the sky.  Life is bad enough but without yes then I feel I could end up close to the edge and an owner of a lonely heart



Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 09:07
Originally posted by kev2307 kev2307 wrote:

we all seem to be going for the one band who are Prog Rock, I mean this in a roundabout way.  I have such sweet dreams when I listen to yes and all my friends and all the good people I know get the same feelings too.

I understand we all have to have a view, so LQ yours is no disgrace for creating such a sad argument (IMO) for creating this obscure thread and you and I know you are just been humurousbut they do write wonderous stories and everyone should create a ritual to listen to them every week    THEN  they will feel the full heart of the sunrise from the south side of the sky.  Life is bad enough but without yes then I feel I could end up close to the edge and an owner of a lonely heart

 



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:05
Originally posted by kev2307 kev2307 wrote:

we all seem to be going for the one band who are Prog Rock, I mean this in a roundabout way.  I have such sweet dreams when I listen to yes and all my friends and all the good people I know get the same feelings too.

I understand we all have to have a view, so LQ yours is no disgrace for creating such a sad argument (IMO) for creating this obscure thread and you and I know you are just been humurousbut they do write wonderous stories and everyone should create a ritual to listen to them every week    THEN  they will feel the full heart of the sunrise from the south side of the sky.  Life is bad enough but without yes then I feel I could end up close to the edge and an owner of a lonely heart




hahahhahah

Looking Around I see You Going For The One post to summarize our Mood For A Day. It Can Happen In the Presence Of And You and I. Dear Father We Have Heaven Rejoice Future Times, for Finally The Prophet Awaken....  The Gates of Delirium  have issued The Messenger  Onward  Where Will You Be  Yesterday and Today I am Waiting. ......  I've Seen All Good People Lift Me Up Saving My Heart If Only They Knew humour is the Ritual that is the mean for Survival... to keep us from teetering too Close to the Edge....


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Posted By: kev2307
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 13:43

      

hahahhahah

Looking Around I see You Going For The One post to summarize our Mood For A Day. It Can Happen In the Presence Of And You and I. Dear Father We Have Heaven Rejoice Future Times, for Finally The Prophet Awaken....  The Gates of Delirium  have issued The Messenger  Onward  Where Will You Be  Yesterday and Today I am Waiting. ......  I've Seen All Good People Lift Me Up Saving My Heart If Only They Knew humour is the Ritual that is the mean for Survival... to keep us from teetering too Close to the Edge....

 

Great reply MICKY

Your such a starship trooper for your revealing sciences of god and remembering the ancient text.  You lift me up with your reply, so LQ open your eyes to the prog genius of YES



Posted By: Fusioned
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 14:26
Originally posted by Greg W Greg W wrote:

Yes...get rid of them. As a matter of fact...get eid of
everyone except Styx, The Beatles, Asia, Queen and Deep Purple...the true
heroes of progressive rock.


lol...yes...Asia indeed.

I love Asia actually.

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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 14:43

Originally posted by Fusioned Fusioned wrote:

Originally posted by Greg W Greg W wrote:

Yes...get rid of them. As a matter of fact...get eid of
everyone except Styx, The Beatles, Asia, Queen and Deep Purple...the true
heroes of progressive rock.


lol...yes...Asia indeed.

I love Asia actually.

Asia Father?



Posted By: Topographic Oce
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 10:06
Originally posted by Lord Qwerty Lord Qwerty wrote:

Well, everyone else was questioning the validity of other bands, so Lord Qwerty felt like taking the time to focus on a band he doesn't really feel matches the criteria of 'Progressive'. After all, they were never as innovative and diverse as the Beatles, as emotionally charged as Radiohead, or as influential as Deep Purple. (There are EASILY a hundred metal bands for every prog band). That, and they are FAR less consistent than any of the aforementioned bands.  Also, this is the band that popularized the notion that you had be a vituoso (Whatever that means!) to be considered a 'progressive' musician. These are Lord Qwerty's technical and moral reasons why he does not consider Yes to be a progressive band.

Therefore, he believes that they should be removed from Prog Archives immediately.


Lord Qwerty needs a visuit to Lord Qwertty's personal shrink if he thinks YES ae not prog because Lord Qwerty is obviously

TOTALLY OFF HIS NAFFIN TROLLY


Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:51
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Fusioned Fusioned wrote:

Originally posted by Greg W Greg W wrote:

Yes...get rid of them. As a matter of fact...get eid of
everyone except Styx, The Beatles, Asia, Queen and Deep Purple...the true
heroes of progressive rock.


lol...yes...Asia indeed.

I love Asia actually.

Asia Father?

Carry On Proggin-The Sequel: "A Little Bit Of Asia Father"



Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 05:43

Here's a few more Prog Carry-On film possibilities;

 

Carry On Doctor Z.

Carry On Screaming (Featuring Ian Gillan).

Carry On Henry (by Rick Wakeman, of course!)

Carry On Follow That Camel

Carry On For What Seems Like Eternity (by Yes).

I can just hear Kenneth Williams saying "Oooh, Mellotron", and Sid James saying "Kayak, kayak, kayak"

Which means there has to be;

Carry On Mellotron.

 

/I'll get me coat...



Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 05:52
and the most obvious one.....Carry On Wayward Son - A Real Prog Comedy..



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