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Topic: Captain Beefheart
Posted By: Joren
Subject: Captain Beefheart
Date Posted: February 19 2004 at 06:19
I don't know why nobody is talking about Captain Beefheart. I think his music is great!



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 19 2004 at 15:41
Thanks so far for your votes!


Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: February 19 2004 at 19:01
Hey, I already started a Beefheart thread...Ok, not really, did mention that Trour Mask Replica is an amazing album, pretty unique in the history of music.

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 20 2004 at 11:25

O, sorry,

anyway: Trout Mask Replica sure is great!



Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: February 20 2004 at 18:34

How can't you love an album with classics like 'Ella Guru', 'The Blimp', 'Ant Man Bee', and 'Dachua Blues'? Really one of the few i'd bring on the proverbial desert island.



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Posted By: Perry
Date Posted: February 22 2004 at 05:38
I've heard only five Beefheart albumz. They all are different but at rha same time intersting. Most of all I likes "Safe as milk". His voice is very unique and he might be mentioned on this site. He recorded less albums than Zappa but its quality isn't worse

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 22 2004 at 14:33
I don't think you can really compare Beefheart to Zappa. Their music is GREAT and artistic, but different. My first Beefheart album was 'Bluejeans and Moonbeams'. I thought it was nice, but (as many fans say) it's nothing compared to 'Trout Mask Replica'. 'Bluejeans and Moonbeams' is in fact a quite 'normal' bluesrock record. Zappa has never made such a 'normal' album. Neither did he make such a difficult and hard to listen to album as Trout Mask. Zappa did so many things, so many different styles and, as far as I know, Beefheart does weird stuff, but it always sounds like he's singing the blues...very roughly. That's why I prefer Zappa


Posted By: Perry
Date Posted: February 22 2004 at 14:52

I don't agree that Zappa never did a "normal" album. What about "Overnite sensation"? Isn't it just a blues-rock record? My favourie "Apostrophe" - what strange their?

And I prefer Beefheart 'cause his voice not only bluesy, it has some incrdible feelings. Nothing compare to Zappa



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Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: February 22 2004 at 20:04
I think quite a bit of Zappa's stuff is fairly straightforward, but just put through a Zappa filterof some sort. He produced Trout Mask (everyone probably knows that, just thought I'd mention...).

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 23 2004 at 09:25

Yes, I know he produced Trout Mask.

I still think 'Overnite Sensation' and 'Apostrophe' (especially the first four songs together, about Nanook) are more complicated and more progressive than 'Bluejeans And Moonbeams'. Do you guys actually know that album?

But, of course, there are some similarities between their music, they were friends and even recorded an album together...



Posted By: Perry
Date Posted: February 23 2004 at 11:10
  I heard "Bluejeans..." and I agree that it is just blues-rock ecord. But I mean that albums (both Zappa and Beefheart) proved their power in all styles. I mean they in easy way played such a kind of music, not to make money. Just for fun. And what about "Sniny beast"? Did Zappa record any album similar to this chef d'oeuvres

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 24 2004 at 04:54

I'm sorry, don't own that one... I'm only listening to prog stuff for about half a year now...

I have: Trout Mask Replica, Doc At The Radio Station and Bluejeans and Moonbeams

and about 15 Zappa albums (including all the Mothers' greatest)



Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 24 2004 at 05:06
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

I'm sorry, don't own that one... I'm only listening to prog stuff for about half a year now...


I have: Trout Mask Replica, Doc At The Radio Station and Bluejeans and Moonbeams


and about 15 Zappa albums (including all the Mothers' greatest)



You need to hear 'Bongo Fury' - a live album with Beefheart & Zappa's band; more of a bluesy/roughneck album than you'd expect from Zappa, but an absolute stormer nonetheless

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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 24 2004 at 14:26
I know Muffin Man from that record and I own the entire album in mp3 (a gift form someone). But I never listened to it. I want all Zappa CD's original, not downloaded


Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 13 2004 at 13:20

I just wanted to bring this thread to your attention again! What do YOU think of Captain Beefheart? Should he be in the archives? I think so!

Don't forget to register to vote!



Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 05:21

come on! don't tell me I'm the only fan here!

The poll suggests there WAS interest...



Posted By: The Owl
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 09:39

Beefheart is a true original, there was NOBODY like him before or since! If I had to describe his music, I would say Stravinsky, Ornette Coleman and a bunch of great blues musicians having an acid freakout together.

Trout Mask, Lick MY DDecals and Doc At The Radar Station are my personal favorites.



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Posted By: ShrinkingViolet
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 09:40

you got my vote!! Captain Beefheart ought to be in the archives.

someone mention muffin men?? lol i went to see them last night for the first time a really awesome night and i met the whole band..

I'm becoming a big zappa fan im listening to the song Crewe Slut at the moment



Posted By: dude
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 09:47

MMMMMMMMMMMMM.....BEEEFEHEARTTTS

 

 

 



Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 13:44

Great! Finally! Some attention!   Ok, put him in the archives!!

And, ShrinkingViolet, Zappa is great, indeed!  



Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 14 2004 at 18:12
Dude, Max has piles of artists to consider for the archives.  Have patience and I'm sure Beefheart will (deservingly) get in.


Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 15 2004 at 13:35

Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

Dude, Max has piles of artists to consider for the archives.  Have patience and I'm sure Beefheart will (deservingly) get in.

I know Max is busy....  I'm just a big fan of Captain Beefheart and I'm shouting his name here since I first registered.. so ...

ok

I'm sorry, Bryan  and Max

I'll be patient



Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 01:20
Reviving this.  I'd say Max has had more than enough time to get around to adding the Captain.


Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 04:47
The Captain should be here. He is unique. I remember hearing 'Trout Mask Replica' for the first time and I was stunned!

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 08:14
What can be more progressive then merging blues, jazz, avante-pop and -rock?


Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: September 04 2004 at 10:40

This is excellent Howlin wolf kind of blues & beat...but prog?



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 04 2004 at 18:56
Originally posted by The Owl The Owl wrote:

Beefheart is a true original, there was NOBODY like him before or since! If I had to describe his music, I would say Stravinsky, Ornette Coleman and a bunch of great blues musicians having an acid freakout together.


Howlin' Wolf is at the head of the list of those bluesmen and deserves mention surely? ( Again) a record not mentioned  - the title track of Icecream For Crow, is worth the price of the CD alone - Gary Lucas's first recording and boy the guy has ready established his unique style. A couple of magnificent live recordings of Lucas in the Magic Band, on Lucas's retrospective Improve The Shining Hour, Her Eyes Are A Million Miles finds Van Vliet singing a love song with passion and sublety (check out the acknowledgments on that album). Of course Lucas (with Van Vliet's approval)  has taken the Magic Band back on the road in Europe this summer -I'm much annoyed I missed them but told they were magnificient in Nottingham


Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: December 04 2004 at 19:02

BEEFHEART IS NOW ON THE ARCHIVES




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