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Topic: Spanish prog!
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Subject: Spanish prog!
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 09:21
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Hello fellow 'aficionados'! In my opinion the Spanish progrock (including the Rock Andalus) is a bit overlooked on this site, I am very curious to hear what's your opinion about it! Have you ever seen those bands on stage? What about new bands like Senogul, Zaguan or October Equus? Do you know other good progressive blends of rock and flamenco? Have you recommendations? Please, let me know, muchas gracias! |
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Posted By: T-BONE
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 09:33
| WHY??? |
Posted By: T-BONE
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 09:41
| TO ERIK: CHECK OUT YOUR POLL RESULTS ,HELLO.... |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 09:50
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What a difficult poll Erik! There are so many good bands here. I voted for TRIANA "El Patio". |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 10:05
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I agree,spanish prog is criminally overlooked. Try Los Canarios ''Ciclos'',originally a double album,now on one cd.A concept album about some of Vivaldi's work. From the Basque regions;Lisker-Two flutes,two guitars,lots of energy,sort of Jethro Tull meets Wishbone Ash,but uniquely Basque and very original! Errobi;Also from Basque,again unique and very original ethnic,folk,prog sung in native dialect.Lots of percussions. Nu; ''Cuentos de ayer y de hoy'';great hard sympho prog!Flutes and violin,mellotron,emotional vocals.Sounds like a hybrid of Tull,Curved Air,Crimson yet totally unique and spanish. N.H.U. only one album to my knowlwdge,not related to Nu.Very enegetic Prog/fusion.Some tracks are rather moody.Nice percussion/guitar/keys interplay.
------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 10:42
| Thanks, Andrew and The Rock and to T-Bone: what's the problem? |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 07:42
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It seems that not only the Spanish progrock is overlooked but also this topic Come on, you progheads, show me your opinion about the Spanish progrock, give recomendations, tell your stories about concerts with Spanish progrock bands , let this site know about the special sound from the Spanish progrock bands, .. |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 07:46
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I'd go for either MAZQUITA'S "Recuerdos de Mi Tierra" or CAI's "Noche Abierta" - both albums recapture the harsh passion of Flamenco and combine it fluidly with the melodic delicacy of symphonic progressive. Cai had a slightly jazzier feel to their Flamenco prog, while Mezquita was a bit rockier, definitely. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 11:08
| Thanks The Rock and Cesar, I am glad to get your reactions, I thought I had posted this topic to Mars or Venus! |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 11:15
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I voted for Atila, but Gualberto's Vericuetos(prog
fusion) and Neuronium Quasar 2C361(electronic prog) are fascinating albums. I think Mezquita's and Triana's are the best in their native language. 
------------------ Late 70's Spain was the only symphonic prog scene that mattered in europe. OLE and TOUCHE! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 14:15
| I intend to buy a 2-CD set featuring the first two albums by Neuronium, including Quasar 2C361. I won his CD New Digital Dream, a wonderful electronic prog album. Last year I bought a CD that features the Reviuvre album and (new) live footage with his reunion band, great! |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 14:39
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hey buddy! you forgot: 1. Iman Califato Independiente 2. Fusioon 3. Gotic ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:42
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Los Canarios - Ciclos wow! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:54
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I voted for TRIANA, but MEZQUITA, AZAHAR "Azahar", ITOIZ "Itoiz" and "Ezekiel" are excellent too. I never heard LOS CANARIOS and CRACK, so I can't rate them (reports say their albums are great). Anyway, unique Spanish rock deserves prog fans' attention. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 05:48
| Seem to been this way before and again I would throw a 'Spaniard In Works' (to quote John Lennon) or more: Ojos De Brujo - who are up yet again for the BBC World Music Prize. They progress. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 06:04
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I have seen a DVD from Ojos De Brujo, very special music, an often exciting blend of several styles but not really my cup of tea, too varied. Nonetheless, adventurous sound! Thanks for your reactions, fellow aficionados, good to notice that the Spanish prog is appreciated on this site |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 11:32
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 12:05
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Good call for an Italian, Andrew .... !
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Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 12:16
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I voted "Other". You can't forget FUSIOON (2nd and 3rd album are masterpieces) or GOTIC "Escenes". Among andalusian, consider GUADALQUIVIR, IMAN and GRANADA.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:36
Well, Fusioon is embraced in this topic, Aprusso  ! I prefer their third album although the final track is a bit too weird for me.
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:45
and I CAN'T BELIEVE IT NOBODY MENTIONED OMNI and MONARCH -------------
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anael wrote:Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 16:14
| Well, Anael, can you give a very short description from Monarch, this is the only Spanish progrock bands in this topic I have never heard of, I am curious! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 17:44
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I only got three albums, guess where they came from, Erik
All three top notch! |
Posted By: Rashikal
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 17:46
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RC2
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listen to Hella |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 10:02
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Never heard of RC2, are they family from Spanish progrock band PI2 ?
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Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 13:46
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Hey there Erik, Here's a few others; Eduardo Bort;released a self titled lp in 75(?).Guitarist singer songwriter.Sings in English,symphonic prog,very english sounding.Probably the least Spanish sounding of the bunch.Quite accesible but not commercial. Goma ''14 Abril'';Jazzy prog with sax,Canterbury flavored.A few bits of weirdness.Very good,ike so many from that country. ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 14:27
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Hello progheads! this is my firts post on the archives, but I've been reading that site for 4 years or so jeje Erik and all the progriss people around, look at this page http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~inesta/Prog/index-e.html It's a fantastic web of all types of spaniosh prog rock, and with "tons" (not millions but a hundred) on bands and soloist. There are both spanish and english version so... no problem for you, because i'm spanish, form bilbao, so please listen to basque prog jeje I voted for crack, which is the best spanish symphonic ever! at least for me But also like: bloque "hombre, tierra y alma" and "el hijo del alba", los canarios "ciclos" (masterpiece), granada (the three albums), gotic "escenes" and many more. You should try Ibio "cuevas de altamira" a band form the cantabric region (from santander). Their music is folk with very good symphonic elements. The best song is the firts with a glorious mellotron sound at the begining, tremendous singing (very lyric) and outstanding guitar solo in the middle and end part, just brilliant! The res of the songs are good too, with lost of keyboards, but more folk orientated. And of course "El patio" and "recuerdos de mi tierra" are both masterpieces. try also Gualberto and eduardo bort, his firts album of 1975 And los brincos "Mundo, demonio y carne". Los brincos were a famous pop grupo of the mid and late 60s here in spain. In 1970 they record "mundo, demonio y carne" which is the only album that can interest prog minds Modulos "plenitud" 1972 is and excellent symph prog rock, stunning And that's all folks ejjeje greetings ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 15:40
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Hello The Rock. I have listened to Eduardo Bort but I don't like his voice! Goma is a good band but I don't like Canterbury, it's often too complex for me! Hello Pagasarri. I hope you don't have a problem with Barcelona as the Spanish #1 football team?! Do you know Itoiz, I love their eponymous debut CD, strange but wonderful language that Basque! Hello Moogtron III. A sheer perfect call, thanks! By the way, I just received a Private Message with 'thank you' from the guitarist from the promising Spanish progrock band Senogul, they feel honoured and are so glad that I put them on the Prog Archives site, great to hear those things, Prog Archives is hot! |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:52
hello erik What dou you mean? really i don't understand it hahaha should I have a problem with barcelona FC? hahahaOf course i know itoiz first album, it's great! I purchased this christmas for only 8 €  Itoiz were a very popular band here in the basque country during the 70s and 80s, and still they are. However, like many other prog bands, they began to be more popular in the 80s when they left the prog style. In every music shop in the basque country you can find Itoiz music, for sure! hahaha Yes, "Transitos" is a very promising demo, very very good. I'm looking foward to their debut album. ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:57
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They're from Venezuela: they play a beautiful hard-edged kind of neo-prog. But... the ycurrently tour in Europe, in Barcelona, mostly. |
Posted By: drumsandbass
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 18:00
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Triana El Patio. It took me forever to find this album but wow. It was truly
stunning. Nothing short of brilliant. |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 18:03
Despite their name, GRANADA was NOT an Andalusian band. GUADALQUIVIR & IMÁN were, and they were so great... the former were the masters of Flamenco jazz-fusion in their country during the late 70s, while the latter created, together with Triana, Cai and Mezquita, the most beautiful Flamenco-tinged symphonic prog. How is Andalausian prog nowadays? Well, its endurance lies in the hands of OMNI, a current instrumental band that recaptures much of that old-fashioned Flamenco prog and recycles it through an almost neo-prog filter (a la modern Camel). Regards. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:03
| Yes, Cesar, as I remember Granada were from Madrid. I am looking forward to the new Omni but I hope you will listen to Senogul, also worth are Unoma and Bijou, do you know them? |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 07:55
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Yeah, both of them. I wasn't that impressed by Unoma: their (or his, since it's a solo project) album was an OK neo-prog stuff. On the other hand, Bijou made a damn good record with "El Profeta", great instrumental neo-prog with slight touches of melodic hard rock and jazz-rock, resulting in an original music within the standards of neo. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 08:24
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I have voted for basque folk Prog. Itois, Izikaitz Haizea and Errobi. Recently I added Pan & Regaliz and Goma (sounds a bit like Crack) and I will add Maquina and maybe Tapiman (Iceberg's Max Sunyer first group). Erik, would you consider Smash (Gualberto's first group) as a valid entry for the Archives?
From your list is missing Coto en Pell ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 08:53
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Hello Sean. I am still waiting for a CD from Smash (La Vanguardia) in order to make a valid judgement because it was a very long time ago that I have heard Smash. But looking at the descriptions and reviews from Smash all over the world I sonsider them as a fine addition for this site (perhaps prog-related or prog-folk). To me Coto En Pel is interesting prog with hints from King Crimson, a bit dark atmosphere. By the way, good to notice all those reactions on Spanish prog, thanks |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 09:36
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Omni Nice melodic new prog a la Camel.Soothing and relaxing.Great guitar solos.There`s a bit of percussions and some ethnic references,but overall quite conventional and nice.For those on the quieter side of prog. The same comments could be applied to Kotebel,perhaps a little more dissonnent and dark,at times closer to King Crimson. ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 13:18
| Is there anybody familair with PI2, I have reviewed their three albums for this site but they seem a bit overlooked band? |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 15:26
For me they are graeat. Very melodic and symphonic stuff. Love them! The best album is their last, although the rest are very good too. Great band ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 15:55
| Next week I will receive an album from Zaguan, I am very curious to them and would like to add this Spanish progrock band to this site. Who has already heard something from them? |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 17:59
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Is this the end, my friends? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:09
this is the end, my only friend, the end.... hahaha couldn't resist that. Hey I've only heard/have the Ciclos album, absolutely LOVED it, and interested in hearing more Spanish prog. Give me say.. 5 must haves.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:09
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Why should it be the end? The end of what? ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:12
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5 must haves: Crack''Si todo hiciera...'' Fusioon ''Minorisa'' Los Canarios ''Ciclos'' Nu ''Cuentos de ayer y de Hoy'' Triana ''El Patio'' And there's plenty more where it comes from... ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:23
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5 more: Mezquita "recuerdos de mi tierra" Cai "Noche Abierta" Granada "España año 75" Alameda "Alameda" Ibio "Cuevas de Altamira" Regards ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:35
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BUY SENOGUL MI AMIGOS, YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED!! Otherwise, it IS the end ..... Anyway, thanks for joining this topic, I am glad that so many progheads were willing to give their opinion about other bands than Dream Theater, Tool, The Mars Volta, King Crimson, Yes, ELP, Genesis, etc. A BIG HAND FOR THE SMALLER AND UNKNOWN BANDS |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:42
Italian prog opened my eyes to ... a whole world of prog hahahah, so willing to jump into the unknown so to speak. Music is music.. regardless of the language. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 07:07
Hi everyone! Just wanted to say THANKS a lot to Erik and Pagasarri for
recommending Senogul in this thread. Since I play in that band I will
not say anything about how good is "Tránsitos"...  Well, at least let me say that it's a mix of many different influences, with a Spanish touch here and there... and there's also a long andalusian rock suite, a tribute to an almost lost style that we like so much. That's all I can say. Get "Tránsitos" here!! (www.senogul.tk) Well, now let's talk about my favourite Spanish prog CDs. Of course "Ciclos" is a masterpiece, the best one IMO. I also love Cai, Triana, Alameda and Eduardo Bort (if it wasn't for his accent...  ).
Crack's CD has an very special meaning for me, since the band was from
my city and Senogul recorded a demo CD in the studio of Crack's
keyboard player (Mento Hevia). He told us Crack had already finished
composing a second CD when they disbanded and he says it was better
than the first one !! But they didn't manage to record anything. That's
bad luck for prog history.... I don't like so much Mezquita-Recuerdos De Mi Tierra. I can't find anything special there, sorry... Just one recommendation: do you know Camarón? He was the greatest flamenco singer. In 1980 he got some very good musicians together (some of them from the Spanish prog scene) to record a flamenco-rock album, "La leyenda del tiempo". It's not exactly prog... but flamenco-rock, which means that it's more flamenco-oriented than the typical andalusian rock. If you like that stlye, try it!! |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 10:30
Hello carakhallo. your Cd is just wondeful, oloking foward to the next!( a bit of spanish: vamos que estoy ansiao ara mismo jajaja). You cd is the emule network thanks to Nilo2000 who put it in our prog rock forum (the new adress is www.foroerg.com, la morada del perro verde), and i love for the first time, really. I visit you website almos everyday looking for some new information about the new album, jeejej So, that's all folks See you ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 10:31
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Oh, i forgot it Which instrument do you play in senogul carakhallo?? ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 11:48
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Thanks for your advise Carakhallo, I will check out Camaron La Leyenda Del Tiempo. I have already heard things from Camaron but I am not really into flamenco singing but the way you describes La Leyenda .. it could be interesting. By the way, here is my Spanish progrock Top, fellow aficionados: 1) Triana - El Patio 2) Medina Azahara - Vivo 3) Various Artists - Rock Andalus (Medina Azahara, Cai, Gualdalquivir, Iman, Alameda) 4) Iceberg - Tutankhamon 5) Mezquita - Recuerdos De Mi Tierra |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 11:48
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Thanks again, Pagasarri! I am one of the guitar players. I would say I play the lead guitar, but Pedro (the other guitar player from Senogul) plays also some lead guitar when he uses the e-bow (like in DrGull, at the very beginning of the CD) About our website, we are taking care of it ourselves and we don't have so much time to update it... that's why there's not much information about the record. Sorry, it's our fault! But I can tell you that although it's going quite slowly (we can only go to the studio on weekends) it is sounding very good, we are so happy with the results so far! As you may know, "Tránsitos" was recorded playing live, and although the sound quality is pretty good it could be improved. So we are recording every track from "Tránsitos" again, with much better sound and more instrumentation (more keyboard layers, some percussion instruments and we plan to include a choir in one track and some brass arragements in another one). But we are recording many other tracks, not just re-recording "Tránsitos". Actually, we already have enough material for two CDs. Probably the first one will include all our prog tracks (it will be about 1 hour long) and the second one will include our new more experimental songs, in a style I would call progressive MUSIC, although maybe not ROCK. Thanks again for your interest in the band, I hope we can keep in contact. Please, write me an email if you need any information about the band or the recording. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 18:55
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We are looking forward to your new album with Senogul, Carakhallo, expectations are high and I beg for some flamenco on it!
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 18:34
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This is the end ... ... &nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp; or ... ?
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Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 05:05
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no!! it isn't the end... LAdies and gentlemen, the progarchives theatre is proud to announce a first. The firts time anywhere there's been an act of this nature... ejejejej a bit from chicago... A good band in my opinion is Tarantula and their eponymous Cd, later they launched a second Cd but this one is definetly not prog....but punk! Tarantula first album features vocals form folk to operatic style (very good for me) but only in the first song. The rest of the songs are good, even some of them very good For more information look here: http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~inesta/Prog/SPE/tarantula.html look also for itziar from 1979, sakre (good, but not essential) and harnakis. All of them form the basque country. So, yo can see it, it's not the end ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: antonio
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 05:25
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DUNCAN DHU HOBRES G LA UNION |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 05:30
But this is not prog! ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 05:35
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I added this week Máquina! and Goma. Both excellent groups that are much worth the investigations. Next week I will try to include Basque folk prog Errobi. I have two of their three albums and the first one is astounding, but I must hear and research them more to write the bio ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 05:43
Here is some information: http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~inesta/Prog/SPE/errobi.html I have Ametsaren Bidea but i don't like it vey much. ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 07:06
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Good work Sean, arriba! Pagassari: I have heard the first Tarantula (on Korean label), harder-edeged prog with some amazing Mellotron eruptions! I just received an e-mail from Eduardo, keyboardplayer from Senogul, their re-arranged CD Transitos will be released this year and features more keyboards, especially the Kurzweil. Has anybody recommendations from Spanish prog with flamenco (I own cd's from Cai, Medina Azahara, Azahar, Miguel Rios, Mezquita, Triana and Diego De Moron). Highly recommended: the 2-CD compilation Duende Electrico - see my review on this site. |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 07:42
Wonderful news! with that new arragments the album must be ESSENTIAL prog with flamenco, well, the first album by alameda is just outstandingm, really good and beautiful prog with flamenco in the vein of Triana, but with lots of piano and keyboards. another very good band is "la banda del lago" and their 1992 album "cuestion de tiempo". The only problem with this band is that it is hard to find them, but man they are wonderful: http://www.dlsi.ua.es/%7Einesta/Prog/SPE/bandalago-e.html - http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~inesta/Prog/SPE/bandalago-e.html ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 08:04
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Happy to see this thread is still open!! Let me say that next CD from Senogul won't be just a re-arrangement of "Tránsitos". There will be some more new tracks, more that 1 hour of music altogether. I still don't know Goma and Máquina and I think I should get their records soon... |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 14:47
| I will check out La Banda Del Lago, thanks! |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 15:24
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Goma has a second Cd called "goma 2" from 1979 It is a blend of folk and rock, but very simple IMO. The only prog song is the 8th which lengh is 9:28. The vocals are in Gallego, a language from the region of galicia in the NW of spain ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 17:31
| I wonder how many progheads on this site know the 2-CD Duende Electrico featuring bands like Goma, Triana, Cai, Medina Azahara, etc. it's a perfect introduction to the Spanish Prog!, adios!! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 19:12
I don't.... but I do now hahah. Thanks! I guess a good question would be... how different (if at all) is Spanish prog from the Italiian stuff. Not of course that all the Italian stuff is the same..... Any particular regional/stylistic differences? ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 04:27
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Micky, I would not say that all the Italian stuff is the same... Have
you listened to bands like Area or Arti & Mestieri? Hummm...
curious... I can't remember any other band with a different
style... Well, maybe you're right, they all have a similar sound, BUT I LOVE IT !! Spanish prog is more diverse, of course, although there are not as many prog bands as in Italy. The prog from the north of Spain is more folk oriented, Andalusian (flamenco-prog) is typical from the south and in Cataluña (northeast) there were some prog fusion bands. |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 05:27
I love italian prog rock too!, specially the more symphonic orientated (Darwin!, il tempo de la gioia, per un amico, randone). Talking about spanish prog, i like the most the prog form the north of spain: crack, ibio, bloque, abando, itoiz, itziar, harnakis, etc. But i also love the flamenco orientated prog, it's wondeful. What i don't like very much, but still like, is the jazzy prog from catolonian bands, i mean, what i love form spanish prog is its sensitive like in the italian stuff. Examples of that are crack and ibio  .------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 11:21
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Hello Micky. If I compare Italian to Spanish prog I would say about Italian that on one hand the bands are more obvious influenced by ELP, Genesis and VDGG but on the other hand the bands often sound very adventurous, more complex and very alternating, sometimes less accessible. The Spanish prog often contain folky elements from the several regions (as Carakhallo mentiones) including the different languages like Catalonian (Dr. No) and Basque (Itoiz). Especially the integration of the exciting flamenco is wonderful (Triana, Cai, Azahar). In my opinion the Spanish prog sound very original, often it's hard to find obvious influences (most of the time King Crimson and Camel). |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 11:46
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If you visit the spanish prog rock site , they say it is a different group!! And Dag Erik Asbjornsen says he is not sure it is the same group! Which to trust, then? Goma's 20 Abril album is sung in Spanish , not in Gallego! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 12:22
mmmm, interesting hahahaha Well, perhaps they converted to galiacians, who knows? Reading the review of "14 de abril" it's possible that goma and goma 2 were different bands, because in 14 de abril has KC and VDGG according to the review, while the other Goma it's very simple folk and rock. So, probably you're right. ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 12:43
| I haven't listened to Goma or Goma 2, but I heard they are completely different bands |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 15:13
thanks for the feedback.....looks like I've found my newest area of exploration. Sounds like I'll really enjoy it.------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 17:17
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Today I have added another promising band to this site: after Bijou and Senogul I present Zaguan to you, a band with obvious echoes from Triana featuring lots of exciting flamenco guitar but also fine organ and electric guitar soli. Check them out! I hope many progheads will follow your explorations Micky! |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 17:34
I have their last album "testigo del tiempo" but i haven't heard it yet eheh ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 18:10
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No comprendo .. ... arriba!!
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Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 18:15
Ein? now, i'm the one that No comprende jajaja  They have more albums, haven't they? ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 18:20
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Senor Pagasarri, Zaguan has made two CD's but I presume that Testigo Del Tiempo is their latest album, not their last .. .. I am looking forward to their next!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 03:50
Hang on if you read thev review on the archives, it is mine, so it does not count ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 04:42
 , well i little mistake, doesn't matter really.... i hope so------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 06:45
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Pagasarri, your English is better than my Spanish Yesterday I went progrock shopping in Amsterdam, I have bought a wonderful box set entitled Los Jonenes Flamencos, including 7 CD's featuring Pata Negra, Ketama, Tomatito, Carles Benavent, Jorge Pardo, Paco De Lucia, Diego and Armando Amador, excellent blues, rock and even progressive music!! You can also buy these 7 CD's separate. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!! |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 07:05
prog rock shophing!!!  In spain that's impossible There are only 2 specializes shops in spain, discos melocoton (very good one, but a bit expensive) and Pan Y Musica in Bacerlona (very good too). And that's all folks!, no more. Well, in madrid there is another shop called Diskpol that have prog music among many other styles, but they have a very little prog selection, although what they have it's quite good and with good prices (the genesis box set "Talking about the box set you have bought, i don't like flamenco, only the flamneco orientated prog. And that's the first time i've heard of that boxs set, hehehe. Los jonenes Flamencos.... no idea, really Which are the prog groups that appear in tha box?? Regards ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 16:37
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Pata Negra and Ketama blended flamenco, rock and blues in a progressive way but not in the traditional way of the Seventies progrock, hardly any keyboards. When I stayed a long weekend in Barcelona (in order to see Barcelona, 1-0 against Real Madrid, goal by Nadalin the final 15 minutes, 100.000 fans went wild!) I visited a large record store in the Paseo De Gracia street, do you know that store, was it Pan Y Musica? I bought threre Canarios and Bloque. Today I have added Zaguan to this and written a review, I am curious to your and everybody's opinion, let me know! |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 16:45
So you are interested in spanish football league, quite strange from a belgian I suppose it is pan y musica, i've never been in barcelona, but before i die i must go to pan y musica jajaja I listen to zaguan this afternoon and i like them although i don't love 'em. I get impressed with the vocals, it's a replic of Jesus de la Rosa!! and with some furious guitar play, really impressive.More used of keys and more complex and symphonic songs would make that great, but nowadays i just a good band, at least for me erik! i know you love flameco prog ejje ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: shyman
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 16:53
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I don't know if people will think if they are prog or not, but I think they have art-rock tendencies I'm talking about "Heroes del Silencio". It is a quite known band who started in the late 80s and dissapeared in the late 90s. Their leader, Enrique Bunbury is still active and he recently said he was going to work into progressive stuff. |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 17:13
really???? in prog stuff wow!!!!!! I heard that he is working on his new Cd with new orleans and jazz sounds, but prog! incredible! I really like Enrique's bunbury solo career. Where dou your read/listen to this information?? ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 17:15
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by the way, i never liston to heroes, but i will now... ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: shyman
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 06:21
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Actually a friend of mine (who, like most people here doesn't know what prog is) mentioned that to me and it caught my attention, so that's why I decided to mention it
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 12:09
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from the 70's
Canarios - Ciclos Atila - Reviure Gualberto - Vericuetos Neuronium - Quasar 2C361 are recommended |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 15:39
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DallasBryan, early Neuronium is great, wonderful synthesizer musis blended with fiery guitar soli from Santi Pico Pagasarri, thanks for the words about Zaguan, I hope they will get more attention. Shyman, thanks for your reaction, I hope more progheads will follow you, the Spanish Prog! thread is going very well, thanks! |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 16:28
| where is anyone who also enjoys tempano the agony and the ecstacy is a really well done album they also appear on the musea package the odyssey which is a great compilation |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 16:41
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This thread is about Spanish prog, Tempano is from Venezuela, on a trip this evening Timothy ?
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 16:46
| no that was last weekend so it seems your saying sa prog is the right category |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 20:49
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manglis escalera al cielo 1981 real nice |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 06:20
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I think it's time for me to start listening to some Spanish prog again.
I am very curious about Zaguan, since everybody say they sound like
Triana, is it true? I will also try to get Máquina and Goma. Antbody here knows Nuberu? They were a folk-prog band from my region, Asturias, in the north of Spain. They were more folk (celtic) than prog but they say their second and third album were quite proggy (although sometimes they used drum programming...  ).
I have only listened to some tunes, but they are quite good. As many
other bands from Asturias, they played the asturian bagpipe in many
songs, I love that sound!! |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 06:34
I know them, but never listen to them. mmmm I love bagpipe too and celtic music, so it's very probable that i like them. http://www.dlsi.ua.es/%7Einesta/Prog/SPE/nuberu-e.html - http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~inesta/Prog/SPE/nuberu-e.html Not much information here, only a short"Jazz rock, folclore asturiano. Todo junto." ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:08
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Carakhallo, I just included Zaguan to this site and I have also written a review about their CD Testigo Del Tiempo, the vocals sound incredible similar to Jesus De La Rosa. Pagasarri, Granada has some fine bagpipe on their albums. |
Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:20
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mezquita's release is just awesome. I love the crickets that start off the album and sneak back in every so often. These guys play their stones off. Ecspecially the guitar and bass players. I just recently am emmersing myself in the Spanish prog scene after buying well over a hundred, make that more like 200 Italian releases. I don't have many of the releases mentioned, but will be getting them. Hopefully some of them will be re-released, like the Crack album. I've been trying to find this release for a long time. I see Granada wasn't mentioned. I feel they should be, though I don't feel they are the best. Another good one is "Gualberto's" "Vericuetos." Some awesome playing in league with Mezquita on this release. So far nothing beats Mezquita though. SPANISH |
Posted By: Pagasarri
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:38
i have the threes albums by Granada Very good, specially "españa año 75" y "valle del pas" ------------- Lord of lords king of kings has returned to lead his children home to take them to the new Jerusalem |
Posted By: Carakhallo
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 11:37
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Paulieg, I think you should get maaaany Spanish prog CDs, you won't regreat it! And you will find many albums more interesting than the one from Mezquita. After listening to Triana, Cai, Canarios, etc, I personally don't understand why many people likes Mezquita so much. They say the guitar players are very good, but I (as a guitar player) do not agree with them... Anyway, I will listen to the record again (I haven't done it for a few years) and tell you all about my feelings nowadays. And about Crack's CD, it has been recently re-released, I think it was a Japanese label, but I am not sure... And the thing is the people from the band was not aware of that!! So you better get it before they decide do something about it... Ah, here it is, I found it. Take a look at this list from Si-Wan Records releases, here you can find Crack among many other prog CDs: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8366/OTHERS-si-wan.html - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8366/OTHERS-si-wa n.html |