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Topic: Best drummer?
Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Subject: Best drummer?
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:00
I chose these three as they are widely considered to be 3 of the greatest drummers ever.
I know I must have missed out many other very good drummers but these 3 are the elite.

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Posted By: xjester
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:04
Write in- Mike Portnoy.


Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:07
never! he has not reached legendary status yet imo

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Posted By: xjester
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:15

1. its hard to name a prog metal band he hasnt had involvment with.

2. DT almost singlehandedly brouht back prog in the 90's

3.There is a reason Modern Drumer named him drummer of the year last year.

4. Watch live in tokyo and tell me he isnt legendary.



Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:16

Originally posted by Cygnus X-1 Cygnus X-1 wrote:

I chose these three as they are widely considered to be 3 of the greatest drummers ever.
I know I must have missed out many other very good drummers but these 3 are the elite.

Sorry for being nitpicky, but you mean "3 of the greatest rock drummers" ever, don't you? And you could have thrown Ian Paice and Ginger Baker in there, so as to give this one a more complete feeling.

Something inside of me is literarly forcing me to vote for Peart, but since I hate being forced to do anything, I'll vote for Bonham instead.



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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:21

Originally posted by xjester xjester wrote:

Welcome to the forum

1. its hard to name a prog metal band he hasnt had involvment with.

What do you mean?

2. DT almost singlehandedly brouht back prog in the 90's

Some people here will skin you for this. And I don't agree with this, either.

3.There is a reason Modern Drumer named him drummer of the year last year.

Isn't that the same magazine that has the likes of Lars Ulrich, Meg White, Travis Barker, Tre Cool, Joey Jordison etc. on its covers?

4. Watch live in tokyo and tell me he isnt legendary.

He's damn solid and a powerhouse, but he isn't legendary, people like Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Billy Cobham, Peart and Bonham are.



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Posted By: xjester
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:24
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by xjester xjester wrote:

Welcome to the forum

1. its hard to name a prog metal band he hasnt had involvment with.

What do you mean?

     OSI, LTE, Transatlantic, Neal Morse, Marillion,etc...

2. DT almost singlehandedly brouht backough prog in the 90's

Some people here will skin you for this. And I don't agree with this, either.

     If they didnt, who did?

3.There is a reason Modern Drumer named him drummer of the year last year.

Isn't that the same magazine that has the likes of Lars Ulrich, Meg White, Travis Barker, Tre Cool, Joey Jordison etc. on its covers?

     Ok, Fair Enough.

4. Watch live in tokyo and tell me he isnt legendary.

He's damn solid and a powerhouse, but he isn't legendary, people like Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Billy Cobham, Peart and Bonham are.

     And i agree that they are all legends in their own right, but i feel that after 20 years, hes earned the right to be concidered legendary.

and thanks for the welcome!



Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:36

DT's a seminal prog metal band, sure, but they're hardly the only important prog metal act and even less so the only important 90s' prog rock act. Sure, they're quite popular, but it's not really about that, prog will only die when it has nothing more to say, not when practically no one listens to it. It never really died, even in the 80s', it just went off the map, but kept putting out great stuff, not only neo-prog.  So no, DT has probably gained prog lots of new fans (myself included), but, on the whole, they're a very controversial band, with lots of harsh critics among fans of other 90s' prog bands and members of these bands themselves.

Portnoy definitely deserves more recognition for his work, but there are hundreds of drummers who do... check this site out, if you don't know it already:

http://www.drummerworld.com - http://www.drummerworld.com

There's so much mindblowing drum stuff there it's scary. Enjoy!  



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Posted By: xjester
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:39

Ok, youve made you point.

and out of those 3, id have to pick pert.



Posted By: Thufir Hawat
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 17:58

From me it is a hard choice,

John Bonham did do that long

solo on “Moby Dick” however

I think Neil Pert outshines John

Bonham overall.



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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 18:23
There are so many drummers who can out play portnoy its not even funny. I have alot of respect for the work he did with dream theater - but so many people think he's some kind of "technical god" just because he plays a bunch of odd time signatures. I can name at least 20 drummers who could play circles around him off the top of my head.



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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 19:19
Well, I voted Neil because I think he truly is the best rock drummer around.  However, you forgot some greats like Phil Collins (second best drummer), Bill Bruford, Portnoy, Pip Pyle and so on.  Not surprisingly, I would not include Keith Moon or John Bonham as among the great drummers.  I think their reputation is overblown.


Posted By: West End Ken
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 21:55

Out of those 3 pretty easy decision. Although Zeppelin was always my favorite band, I pick the legendary Neil Peart. My second favorite drummer is actually Stuart Copeland.



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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 03:25
Neil Peart is the winner for me.


Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 03:42
Keith Moon, he is my all time favorite

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 05:50
Yawn, how often do I have to repeat it? The man in my signature pic beats them all.

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 07:57
I was expecting this one from you...indeed he's an excellent drummer, at the top on "You".

Among french ones, Christian Vander is a killer on a technical level.



Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 09:57
Neil Peart.


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 13:48
Originally posted by West End Ken West End Ken wrote:

Out of those 3 pretty easy decision. Although Zeppelin was always my favorite band, I pick the legendary Neil Peart. My second favorite drummer is actually Stuart Copeland.

Yep, Moon was unique, and lots of fun to watch, but somewhat technically sloppy, I think (Bruford -- my fave -- reputedly said of Moon: "He just hits things"). So, of those listed, Peart, easily (not that Bonham wasn't a powerhouse).

Yes, Stewart (sp) Copeland was -- I presume still is -- very good. Have you seen the Police - Synchronicity Tour DVD? I recently bought it, and it's quite good. Copeland is great & very fast on it. An under-appreciated rock drummer, for sure!



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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 14:31

Neil Peart



Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 15:46
Again, Peart.

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Posted By: sularetal
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 16:12
Originally posted by Thufir Hawat Thufir Hawat wrote:

From me it is a hard choice,

John Bonham did do that long

solo on “Moby Dick” however

I think Neil Pert outshines John

Bonham overall.

 Sorry just sounds funny.... If we judged drummers from a recorded solo the winner would be Peart for me with the "O baterista" from Rock In Rio but Peart is my least favourite from those three... I know that he is technically amazing and yes he has been through realy terrible situations.... What I don't like about him is that he prepares very carefully his solos and drum parts and doesnt really play what he feels at the moment something that the crazy keith moon had. His drumming is amazing. Its so real.... so alive for me.....

I'm between Bonham and Moon..... Bonham also is a drum legend.... His playing was more than progressive (meaning not the type of music of course)...hmmmmm... my vote goes to Keith Moon.... Probably at another time I would have voted John..



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Posted By: gaita
Date Posted: January 10 2006 at 18:29

Why not Portnoy???



Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 14:56
Peart for sure


Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 16:54
Originally posted by gaita gaita wrote:

Why not Portnoy???

Gaita...this may just be a 'classic" drummer poll.



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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:12
John Henry Bonham




Posted By: horza
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:34
Bonzo was underrated - I prefer Peart

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Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.


Posted By: #1floydfan
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 19:54
wait you guys are forgetting the best drummer of them all mike portnoy how sad that you could forget him

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Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 19:45
he may not be the best, but ROBERT WYATT is my favorite drummer ever. before his accident of course


Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 20:51

Keith moon.  He is easily the most powerful drummer on the list.  He has an amazing talent of hitting the drums in a seemingly random pattern yet keeping the beat.  He perpetually sounds like he's showing off, fitting in perfectly with the Who's incredably excessive sound. 

It's close, though.  John bonham is pretty beastly.

I don't get much out of Neil Peart's drumming.



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Posted By: Sammus_the_hutt
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:18

NEIL! NEIL! NEIL!

and what is all this talk of portnoi? what he plays is good, sure, and it realy goes with dream theater, but he makes it sound a lot harder than it is by having a LOT of drums. add to that the fact he cant play any rudiments at all (his own admission in modern drummer mag) a question about drums and NO MENTION of Billy Cobham!? FOR SHAME!

Ps. for all the DT fans give this guy a listen. he is a great drummer. one of the greatest.



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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 23:33
Originally posted by West End Ken West End Ken wrote:

Out of those 3 pretty easy decision. Although Zeppelin was always my favorite band, I pick the legendary Neil Peart. My second favorite drummer is actually Stuart Copeland.

Copeland is among my favorites as well.



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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 16:04

the playing of moon is unlike anything i have ever heard.  just the pure power and randomness.  bonham is amazing also.  he is lightning fast with the footpedel and mobydick live is just makes you say wow.  and pearrt is a genious too.  He is very technical.  they are all good but i think pert is over al better.



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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 04:27
Peart. I saw a couple of his solos and I was amazed. Although Portnoy is the best in my opinion

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Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 05:06
Neil

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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:07
Neil all the way, baby!

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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 17:28
From the three on offer, it has to be Peart, but my favourites will always be Collins and Bruford.


Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 19:03
my favourite drummers are neil peart, john bonham, keith moon, carl palmer, and bill brufford. 

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Posted By: Page to Squire
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 07:30

Dave Grohl is my favourite for some reason. I  dont like Nirvana but QOTSA an Eagles of Death Metal are Great



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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 02:02

Neil Peart.

Gotta say I'm not really a fan of any of them though. Portnoy blows them all away in my opinion.



Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 05:56
Watch the drum solo at the end of the Knebworth video of Mike Oldfield.

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Posted By: DT_bast
Date Posted: February 07 2006 at 20:50
Mike Portnoy?????


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 10:58
Originally posted by Cygnus X-1 Cygnus X-1 wrote:


I know I must have missed out many other very good drummers but these 3 are the elite.

I don't think they're the elite, I think if you're looking for the very best then in terms of prog - although POeart will come highly rated - Bruford's the main man. Of the three, I voted for Keith Moon, greatly under-rated as a drummer, then Bonham, then Neil Peart who is clearly a bloody good drummer, but I find it hard to warm to him.
Hey two out of three in your poll are sadly deceased, hopefully this doesn't worry Neil if he's reading this!


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 11:04
Simon Philips is another drummer that should definitely get a lot more nominations.

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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 11:16

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Simon Philips is another drummer that should definitely get a lot more nominations.

+1



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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 11:45

  I would add bill bruford, dennis chambers, and bill cobham



Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 13:25
Kieth Moon - Listen to Quadrophenia


Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: February 10 2006 at 04:15
John Bonham - who else?

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Posted By: DrWizard
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 11:45
As far as rock is concerned I think Neil Peart is the best. Der Trommler from R30 is INCREDIBLE

Jazz drumming needs more technical ability tho and buddy rich is best ever.

Bonham is an incredible drummer and is right behind peart. Moby Dick is a great solo and he was perfect for Zeppelins sound.

Kieth moon is technically way overrated but he did invent the "lead drummer"


Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:01
Neil Peart is light years ahead of Bonham and so is Mike Portnoy.


Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 14:51
Nick Mason! Surely no other drummer can make a song as good as "I'm A Mineralist"!


Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 15:40
Out of the 3, I'd go with Peart. But Billy Cobham is tops with me. His ability to go from left to right handed drumming is incredible. I don't know too many drummers that can do that.


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 18:24
Neil- out of ANY poll.

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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 18:46

From that list Bonham!!!!!

But I refuse to vote in a poll that dosn't include the greatest drummer of all time......Ladies and gentlemen Mr Carl Palmer



Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 01:46
Bonzo!!!

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Posted By: Ampersand
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 01:50
Originally posted by Cygnus X-1 Cygnus X-1 wrote:

I chose these three as they are widely considered to be 3 of the greatest drummers ever.
I know I must have missed out many other very good drummers but these 3 are the elite.


Perhaps the choice is simply too low... I know many excellent drummers (Andy Ward from the 1st Camel would be my favourite -- though it doesn't mean he's the best of all...), and all from the list seem a little bit too... unfamiliar. Who are they?


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Posted By: jesperz
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 01:53
Well, I'll choose Neil Peart for Prog Drummer.. He is a legend technically and expressively..

I love MIke portnoy's Concept in structuring his drum part of songs... I can feel more emotion than Neil, just that he didn't reach the technical ability, so which is quite sad...

Phil Collins, I pretty think he is quite overrated.. I dun see he is that good in my OPINION.. lol

For other drummer wise, I like Buddy Rich, Steve Smith, Nathenial Townsley, Dennis Chamber, Tony Royster JR and of course, CARTER BEAUFORD! =)

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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 04:53
In this poll - Neal Peart, of course 


Posted By: ¢¾Old¢¾Hen¢¾
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 14:14

KEITH MOON :D

That bit where he comes in on 'Won't get fooled again' ..

Though I admit, Bonzo is a cool drummer too.

And Rick Wright.

But it's still Keith Moon for me :)

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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 14:23
Peart, all the way.

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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 16:40
Originally posted by ¢¾Old¢¾Hen¢¾ ¢¾Old¢¾Hen¢¾ wrote:

KEITH MOON :D

That bit where he comes in on 'Won't get fooled again' ..

Though I admit, Bonzo is a cool drummer too.

And Rick Wright.

But it's still Keith Moon for me :)

x


Rick Wright? I think you're confusing him with Mason.


Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: March 23 2006 at 10:43

Originally posted by xjester xjester wrote:

Write in- Mike Portnoy.

And even S. Copeland



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Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 01:05

Fools. Mason rules.

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Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 01:08

Ja, jus kiddin'. i voted for Bonham, i m not diggin too much in Rush yet, so i left out Neil Peart. And Keith Moon is the who dude? I didn't know he was considered one of the best.

I'm not touching the portnoy theme, I've seen your point.



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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 08 2006 at 21:23
PEART


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 08 2006 at 21:58
Please....
 
Peart has no competition from the other two


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Posted By: Howe Protege
Date Posted: December 13 2006 at 13:50
ilove peart

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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 13 2006 at 18:59
best drummer ever??? ALL GENRES??? JOHN BONHAM!!!!!!!??????????????????...you gotta be kidding...just read my lips:

BUDDY RICH!!!



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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 06:10
Neil Peart


Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 06:38
Another best drummer poll....

Neil Peart!


Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 07:36
The three are amazing... they're in the top ten best drummers even, sure... My vote goes for Keith Moon... 

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Posted By: EliasMisael
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 12:30
Neil Peart is the man!!!

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Posted By: Morbix
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 21:46
Originally posted by Hierophant Hierophant wrote:

I can name at least 20 drummers who could play circles around him off the top of my head.


Well? Do it.


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 21:47
Screw Peart, its all about the Moonster


Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 03:58
Screw these guys, It's all about Animal



Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 04:03
Originally posted by Meddler Meddler wrote:

Originally posted by ¢¾Old¢¾Hen¢¾ ¢¾Old¢¾Hen¢¾ wrote:

KEITH MOON :D

That bit where he comes in on 'Won't get fooled again' ..

Though I admit, Bonzo is a cool drummer too.

And Rick Wright.

But it's still Keith Moon for me :)

x


Rick Wright? I think you're confusing him with Mason.
 
Uh, drum machines? SOMEONE had to program them. And Dave just "didn't feel up to it that day" (code for "nacho hangover").
 
As for me, I'm with that dude. Moon. Listen to "5:15," where he imitates a choo-choo. No one drummed like that dude. NO ONE.


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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 01 2007 at 04:20
isn't it high time that Vander was considered a legend? ;P I don't like any of the drummers on this poll, all way too rock heroic and anti-ensemble


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Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 12:48
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please, be serious...
 
BILLY COBHAM
 
 
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Posted By: Draconean
Date Posted: May 02 2007 at 16:28
Neil Peart

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Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:35
This isn't going to be the most accurate poll, considering Neil Peart is the only one of those 3 drummers that was actually in a prog band...
and this DOES happen to be a PROG site...
I sense a bias


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:39
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

isn't it high time that Vander was considered a legend? ;P I don't like any of the drummers on this poll, all way too rock heroic and anti-ensemble


I consider Vander a legend.  I've got De Futura blasting right now, and that rhythm section blows away almost everybody. 


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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:43
1.  Neil Peart


2.  John Bonham





3.  Keith Moon

But really, if you consider all genres, these guys are near the bottom.


Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 22:08
Peart


Posted By: Faaip_De_Oiad
Date Posted: May 05 2007 at 23:40
DannyYoshidaChirstianCareyTatsuyaVander




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Posted By: randyhiatt
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 13:32
Bruford, Gavin Harrison, Chris Maitland not on the list?!
 
Pert is waaay to over the top to be musical enough for me, he's another Bozio in my book.


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