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Topic: Pink Floyd v Genesis
Posted By: linchpinc
Subject: Pink Floyd v Genesis
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 14:41
I'd love to hear your opinions on these twoamazing bands. Choices sholud be based on atmosphere throughout their albums lyrics songwriting skill and obviously the overall quality of the music.



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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 14:45
Pink Floyd!!! As much as I love Genesis, it does not match PF at all!

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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 14:45
Overall, Pink Floyd. Though choice, nevertheless...

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Posted By: Harold Demure
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 14:48
Genesis, with no doubt

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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 14:50
Yeah that is what i expected although i thoroughly enjoy the work of Genesis they do not have the whole package like Floyd. Although they make good music their lyrics do not touch the timeless and universal quality of Waters especially during Floyds  untouchable phase during the reign of Dark Side, Animals and Wish You Were Here.


Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 14:54

Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

Yeah that is what i expected although i thoroughly enjoy the work of Genesis they do not have the whole package like Floyd. Although they make good music their lyrics do not touch the timeless and universal quality of Waters especially during Floyds  untouchable phase during the reign of Dark Side, Animals and Wish You Were Here.

I bet then that you have never heard 'Harold the Barrell'? It's about a man commiting suicide! That's kind of universal... Unfortunately

And I wonder, Do you think Waters lyrics are better just because they are very serious??



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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:05
No its just they are less pretentious and unnecessary althogh funny the lyrics "A flower" arent really necessary or meaningful. Floyd also have this cold isolated atmosphere on their records which is so beautiful and haunting but cold enough still to not go into that dangerous soppy place. Floyd keep their dignity and im not saying Genesis do not have aome of these things all i'm saying is Floyd has the whole package and will still be necessary in one hundred years but im not sure bout Genesis


Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:15

I think Pink Floyd were a lot more pretentious (and unecessary) than Genesis, Have you heard 'Ummagumma'?? or 'Atom Heart Mother'? or even 'A Saucerful...'? That was being pretentious

It also took Pink Floyd a long time to get their act together..



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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:15
Harold Demure why would you say Genesis? just out of curiosity?



Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:21
When Floyd did get their act together they held it longer and never brought out a pop album! And Floyd at their best were untouchable.


Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:25

Genesis by a lot for me.

Even though Pink Floyd released more good albums than Genesis, the good Genesis albums are just sooo good, some of my favorite albums of all time.



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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:27
Thats fair enough cool I'd have to admit i really enjoy those two albums but they dont beat Dark side and Animals for me What Floyd albums you like?



Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:37
Wish you were Here is probably my favorite.

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Posted By: ThisWas
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:38
genesis dont depress the hell out of me, so i can listen to them whenever i please, but pink floyd, if i put dark side of the moon on, im depressed for the rest of the day and in a pissy mood. sure they convey emotion, but id rather get tinglies in my body by peter gabriels lyrics then depressed by roger waters  depressing lyrics


Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:38
Also, it's because I like the more symphonic stuff more than the spacey stuff.

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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:38
Cool its a great album.


Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:39

I know a lot of people like Pink Floyd, and have high reverance for them, but I've never been able to get into their stuff like with Genesis.

Genesis' material tends to be brighter and more positive and spiritual, while Pink Floyd seems to be darker, colder, and weirder.

 



Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:43
It depends on your outlook on Floyds albums like Darkside is about the troubles and strains of life but Roger relates to us in that and eclipse is all about all of us having those feelings and thats its not so bad cause we are together in that ship. Sometimes i find Gabriels lyrics a bit nonsensical too


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:55

This is a tough choice. I think overall I'll vote for Floyd...but only just....both at their peak were excellent but I think I prefer certain Floyd albums (eg Animals) to even the best Genesis had to offer.

And then there is the downside, did either of these bands ever sell out, well even if the quality of Floyd's albums did drop, it never got as bad as some of the Genesis canon....

 



Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 15:58
Yeah that is a definite the quality did drop slightly but they were never as bad as some of the genesis albums. Animals is a brilliant record



Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 16:44
Any more votes?



Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 16:51
Cool Floyd are winning any thoughts on their best album?



Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 16:53
You and I both know It's Animals

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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 16:54
God yeah we do did you vote for Genesis?


Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 16:58

 

  Not much difference in my opinion. Dark Side of the Moon is better than anything Genesis put out but then Genesis have about 7 really good albums whereas Floyd drop away after Wish You were Here and Meddle.

I get more nauseated by Roger Waters " me the hero against a world that sucks" than Phil Collins pop pretensions.Pink Floyd may have been saved if Roger had only taken his medication.

 I prefer Gabriel's lyrics to Waters much more thought provoking and intrigueing.



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 16:59

Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

God yeah we do did you vote for Genesis?

I thought for a long time, Overall I much prefer listening to Genesis because I find them easier to listen to, And I think that Pink Floyd albums like 'The Wall' and 'The Final Cut' are too dark for me sometimes, The music just feels too claustrophobic. Musically (In general) however I feel they are equal, They both made extremely important contributions to progressive music. My favourites are 'Animals' and 'Foxtrot'



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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:04

Genesis for me!

My fave album with Genesis is Foxtrot!



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:06
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Genesis for me!

My fave album with Genesis is Foxtrot!

Mine too



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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:06
Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

No its just they are less pretentious and unnecessary
althogh funny the
lyrics "A flower" arent really necessary or meaningful. Floyd also have
this cold isolated atmosphere on their records which is so beautiful
and haunting but cold enough still to not go into that dangerous soppy
place. Floyd keep their dignity and im not saying Genesis do not have
aome of these things all i'm saying is Floyd has the whole package and
will still be necessary in one hundred years but im not sure bout
Genesis


"If you think that it's pretentious you've been taken for a ride" Gabriel in It
from LLDOB.

You have been taken for a ride. Gabriels lyrics are incredible. The "a
flower" isn't necessary or meaningful? What do you know about the story
of narcisus? It is very meaningful once you learn about the old story. In
fact Genesis' lyrics during the Gabriel days were NEVER unmeaningful.
They used dark humor a lot but that was not meant to take away from the
meaning and importance of the songs at all. It only intensified them.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:08
Genesis win for sure. More talented so they can play more exciting music, while floyd only can play mellow stuff. Foxtrot is miles better than Dark side and WYWH. Animals is my fave floyd


Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:12

Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

No its just they are less pretentious and unnecessary
althogh funny the
lyrics "A flower" arent really necessary or meaningful. Floyd also have
this cold isolated atmosphere on their records which is so beautiful
and haunting but cold enough still to not go into that dangerous soppy
place. Floyd keep their dignity and im not saying Genesis do not have
aome of these things all i'm saying is Floyd has the whole package and
will still be necessary in one hundred years but im not sure bout
Genesis


"If you think that it's pretentious you've been taken for a ride" Gabriel in It
from LLDOB.

You have been taken for a ride. Gabriels lyrics are incredible. The "a
flower" isn't necessary or meaningful? What do you know about the story
of narcisus? It is very meaningful once you learn about the old story. In
fact Genesis' lyrics during the Gabriel days were NEVER unmeaningful.
They used dark humor a lot but that was not meant to take away from the
meaning and importance of the songs at all. It only intensified them.

 Well said



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Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:22
I voted Pink Floyd, but only because their downward spiral was not as harsh (tough harsh it was) and my record collection fetures more albums by them as of yet. I've still got to order all those Genesis classics for none of the crappy record stores in my local area houses them (or much prog at all I'm afraid -_-) 

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Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:55
Pink Floyd introduced me to prog and to rock music in general...I voted for them

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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:57
Pink Floyd



so much more listenable!!!


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:01
I'd have to go with Genesis, although Pink Floyd did get me into Prog....still Genesis wins my vote.

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Posted By: Derraine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:07
Pink Floyd for me.  Both are great bands, but the Floyd are more consistent.

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Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:09
I really can't decide.

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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:11

Originally posted by Laurent Laurent wrote:

I really can't decide.

Well what if you were held at gun point?!!!!



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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:18
Gun point or not winterwine floyd have the more listenable music and the classic tracks to back them up


Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:24

Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

Gun point or not winterwine floyd have the more listenable music and the classic tracks to back them up

Huh?!



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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:26
Ha What?



Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:30

Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

Ha What?

There was no answer to that question, You seemed to think so!!



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Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 18:57
Early Genesis for me


Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 22:18
Pink Floyd, no comparison, they rule.

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Posted By: Solids2k
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 22:49
Genesis' decade of greatness from '70 to '80 is hands down the greatest era of any band ever. You just can't get any better than songs like 'Dancing With The Moonlit Knight' 'Firth of Fifth' or 'The Cinema Show'. Gabriel's voice and lyrics are so perfect, though Gilmore and Waters had fine voices as well. Both are great bands but Genesis just does so much more for me. 


Posted By: Mercury
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 22:51
Personally, I enjoy the style of Floyd's music more than Genesis's stuff.


Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: December 23 2005 at 22:58
I voted for Pink Floyd, but I gotta say I like Genesis just as much.  I gave the nod to Floyd since they came out before Genesis and I got into them much earlier than Genesis.


Posted By: Rael is Real
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 01:22
Altough Floyd gave birth to Dark Side, WYWH, Animals and The Wall, my vote goes to Genesis...For their overall incredibly original and creative contribution.

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Posted By: Ultaigh
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 02:04
This is a difficult...
I choose Pink Floyd.


Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 05:52
Originally posted by Mercury Mercury wrote:

Personally, I enjoy the style of Floyd's music more than Genesis's stuff.

Just wondering what it is you prefer about the Floyd?


Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 06:11
My two fave prog bands... Genesis wins.

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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 06:11

Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

Originally posted by Mercury Mercury wrote:

Personally, I enjoy the style of Floyd's music more than Genesis's stuff.

Just wondering what it is you prefer about the Floyd?

Well you should know linchpinc you voted for them



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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 06:13
Ha just wondering his reasons for voting for Floyd to see if they are different to mine


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 06:29
Pink Floyd...as much as I love Gabriel and Gabriel Genesis,Pink Floyd comes first...plus Genesis melted in half-discrase after Duke,so there no way I'm gonna vote a partial Genesis to a full Floyd...

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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 07:12
Glas to see Floyd on top again they deserve it


Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 07:22
Any more votes?


Posted By: Rael72
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 10:06
Originally posted by linchpinc linchpinc wrote:

Yeah that is what i expected although i thoroughly enjoy the work of Genesis they do not have the whole package like Floyd. Although they make good music their lyrics do not touch the timeless and universal quality of Waters especially during Floyds  untouchable phase during the reign of Dark Side, Animals and Wish You Were Here.


Are you kidding?  Gabriel stomps all over Waters when it comes to lyrics.  Genesis are much better musicians, and have much better songs.


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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 10:08
Sorry but youre wrong

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Posted By: Nazgul
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 11:04
Pink Floyd 


Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 11:19
Pink Floyd! Iv never been a big fan of Genesis anyway

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Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 13:05
Thats more like it though genesis sre a great band

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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 20:45
Both Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull have given Genesis a beating in polls. I knew the top 100 album chart was rigged!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 20:59

Why are pink floyd winning?



Posted By: linchpinc
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:44
Coz they are brilliant

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Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 22:45
Honestly Pink Floyd is better

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 23:24
on  a musical scale of things Floyd  don`t come anywhere near  what genesis reached back in the gabriel  era ..  I see floyd as poor mans prog  ..  pretend prog if you will     a glorified blues band pretending to be prog  (progressive rock demands blistering keyboard solos and  time signatures that confuse the hell out of you but sound great !)  Floyd  are  too basic   far too simple  so I voted for genesis  but I`ll have to  ignore the collins  influence  with the vocals in the later  years   


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 23:42

Why is Genesis getting the raw deal lately?  Tull beating Genesis...now Pink Floyd??? Soon Kansas...

Genesis, though only because Pink Floyd has less perfection to offer, IMO of course. But it is fairly close.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 23:56
I would vote for Kansas over Genesis BTW   some of kansas`s  material  has  awakened me to my own spirtual awareness  ... thats why I get frustrated when some people  judge them without listening to their  less commercial side properly   by rights kansas should be in the top 10 Cd`s  with leftoverture ..  but  its  83  or  some  crazy  thing  like  that


Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 00:14

PINK FLOYD



Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 00:19
Genesis

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Posted By: dima_olkov
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 00:51

One of the hardest polls ever for me...

Pink Floyd was my first prog band...

Genesis are awesome..

IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE

But I'll vote for Floyd - they are half-a-step forward



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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 00:52
FFFLLLOOOYYYDDD


Posted By: Lateralus_66
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 02:37
Pink Floyd. Immobile, the most influential band.  (IMHO)

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Posted By: MadCapLaughs
Date Posted: January 02 2006 at 00:20
Pink Floyd is better than Genesis any day

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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: January 02 2006 at 18:40

I think that Genesis loses ground to Floyd, Yes, Tull, etc, due to the post-Gabriel-Hackett era.

During the Gabriel-Hackett era, the band was brilliant, the best IMHO , but the fall in quality was tremendous after they worked with another singer and frontman and had no virtuoso guitar player.

If one does the average between the 2 different Genesis phases the result unfortunately won't be glorious for the band but if one looks only the Gabriel-Hackett era then Genesis can align with the real prog giants - a place well deserved. 



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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 02 2006 at 19:58
For me, Genesis by far, I find them more interesting, more complex and technically better, but nevertheless Pink Floyd is a great band, but Genesis is the prog-rock king, even after hackett and gabriel left, I really like phil collins and also the more pop orientated side!

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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 10:01
Genesis

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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 23:26
Both bands are equal at their peaks imo (pink floyd being wish you were here genesis being foxtrot) but the consistency of floyd wins me. 

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Posted By: GeeMPie
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 15:36
Pink Floyd. They have many great albums like Animals, Atom Heart Mother, DSOTM, WYWH, ...
But I like Genesis too (SEBTP is great)


Posted By: dralan
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 15:41
 Im not going to vote. I love both bands. By the way why do you have to like one over the other or Yes over King Crimson or Elp or Tull or whatever. They are all great. Who really gives a f**k what someone else thinks if you like one better good for you.


Posted By: BitchBrew
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 15:53
Pink Floyd for me. I have nothing against genesis or anything, but im just not into that symphonic stuff at all. Im not really in to any of the classic prog acts that are listed as "symphonic", that may surprice some people and maybe some people think that i dont really like prog at all because its those bands that sort of "created" the genre prog. And what do I know, maybe their right.

But im just more into psychedelic, avant-garde and jazzy stuff. I never get symphonic stuff, its to dull for me, it doesn't speak to me really. Im sure alot of the syphonic bands were more skillfull musicians then floyd and anything, but I cant help it, im just more intriged by "psychedelic" sounds. 

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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 17:37

Floyd by far. I'm getting more into Genesis, but what I've heard can't compare with Animals or WYWH at all. For one thing, WYWH is eargasmic; the experience of the third and fourth time I listened to the high guitar solo on SOYCD pt. 2 has never been duplicated by any other music I've ever heard.

Not all of Floyd's lyrics are depressing; on DSOTM the only song that is really depressing is Time. I think Waters' lyrics are better; he writes lyrics which are powerful and sound great without having insane allusions and puns like Gabriel seems to enjoy so much. Waters is serious most of the time, but not always depressing. I don't like his post-Animals work all that much anyway; it's too whiny.



Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 17:43
^time is kind of meloncholy.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 18:21
Genesis are my favorite band and I think Supper's Ready is the greatest piece of rock music ever
Floyd are great, but not quite as great


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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 18:32
PINK FLOYD

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Posted By: 70sSoundquality
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 18:45
THIS IS SO STUPID


Posted By: cowbell1
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 20:01
Can someone please tell me whats so outstanding about Pink Floyd.


Posted By: nobody
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 03:20

Not much of a contest.  I love PF but their stuff is pretty straightforward, and let's face it, I could play the drums in that band.  Not that DSotM, WYWH and Animals aren't top-notch records that people will be listening to in a thousand years (and enjoyng the mind-altering substances of the future to as well).  Without a doubt they are one of the greatest rock bands that have ever been and will ever be, for that matter.

But the G (up through Wind and Wuthering, anyway) have such stylistic diversity, amazing multipartite songwriting, such dazzling musicianship and craft behind them.  Gabe's theatrical touches (up to '75), so legendary that cover bands who put on verbatim presentations of their early tours sell out 5,000 seat venues... cover bands!  All in all the G are just more unique and take more risks than PF.  That's why I picked them.



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Posted By: dojonane
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 04:12
Hey nobody, ever contemplated founding a new faith based not on merit
or karmic debt or penance or salvation, but instead on passion itself? Why
one believes takes a backseat to how purely they beleive it. In this sense,
we might make strapping priests of this high passion latterday
syncretism.
Walk a tight rope, Floydy....I love you, but are you acrobatic, are you
bending your mind into the reverse and future directions of time? Floyd
have such an endearing, relaxing, purely powerful sound. Yet their quality
is ultimately so constrained to the 70s. They were (even more then
Zeppelin to me) THE 70s band. Not to say it doesnt come off timeless or
wont be enjoyed for time immemorial (until the Apes rise up and outlaw
the labor-distracting folly of melodies.) They may be infinite, but
infinitely harken to a certain cultural atmosphere.
Genesis, IMO of course, sound like they belong just as
much to the future: 'It', 'Silent Sorrow', 'Waiting Room', (not 'avante garde'
or 'outside' enough for you 'BitchBrew???) as they do to the middle ages
and rennaisance. Floyd are so wonderful, but always come off as a 'rock
band.' But in my heart and in my soul, Genesis are a myth, a symbol, an
adventure. When watching the Musical Box re-enact the Lamb at
Toronto's Massey Hall, I thought to myself, with all the visual madness
interspersed with such clarity and focus with sound yet so mad and
seemingly chaotic, this isnt JUST music. This is a story that tells itself and
comes from nothing and stems into my being.
Genesis Genesis Genesis. Again, I listen to Floyd constantly ('Burning
Bridges' anyone?). Guess I'm just confused as to why the 'classic rock'
contingent is coming out stronger then the 'syphonic progressive'
contingent on this one. But then again, Floyd gets destructive amounts of
Radio Play. Gabey Genesis does not. We just don't have as much of an
audience Then again, Thin Lizzy gets more love then Univers Zero.
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 04:43

Floyd better than Genesis? Gimme a break!!! The only guy in Floyd with any talent is David Gilmour, and while Waters sometimes wrote a good lyric, he can't play bass at all! So how can anyone believe he also wrote the guitar-solos. Also, remember those out-of-tune vocals during Live 8.

Genesis, on the other hand, was a band where all members had talent. Say what you want about Phil Collins' pop songs, but you cannot deny the fact that he is one of the best drummers of all time. Also, Tony Banks' keyboard parts are way interesting than Rick Wright's.

Don't get me wrong, I love Floyd (especially "Wish you were here"), but they're absolutely not such talented musicians as Genesis



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Posted By: nobody
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 08:19

Originally posted by dojonane dojonane wrote:

Hey nobody, ever contemplated founding a new faith based not on merit
or karmic debt or penance or salvation, but instead on passion itself? Why
one believes takes a backseat to how purely they beleive it. In this sense,
we might make strapping priests of this high passion latterday
syncretism.

No one would join my cult, dojo, because I'm not good looking enough and you know cult leaders always have to sleep with their disciples, whether they're the Maharishi Mahesh "Sexy Sadie" Yogi or Jim "White Nights" Jones.

 



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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 08:39
Originally posted by cowbell1 cowbell1 wrote:

Can someone please tell me whats so outstanding about Pink Floyd.

The songwriting.


Posted By: silversaw
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 09:27
Okay, I very rarely post here because sometimes it seems I ramble and get myself in trouble.  I just had to get in on this one however...and yes I voted for genesis, who IMHO eclipsed anything Floyd recorded...and they did it in 1971 with the release of "Nursery Cryme."  There is nothing boring about Genesis and to say that Gabriel's lyrics were never thought provoking, or at least interesting, is insanity, especially when comparing him to such a mediocre songwriter as Waters.  The unfortunate thing about Waters' material is the constant need to be depressing and dark...and not really in a good way, but more in a draggy, put me to sleep way!!!

I love Floyd...don't get me wrong, Animals, Meddle, Wish You Were Here...all classics.  The Wall and Dark Side put me to sleep in minutes simply because of how overplayed they are.  Since Genesis has much more complicated and involved music, it keeps my interest.  While Floyd went terribly downhill after Final Cut, Genesis, although mainstreaming a bit, still maintained a quality that was missing from latter day Floyd.  Phil Collins may have been a pop icon in his own world, but for Genesis he STILL wrote some thought-provoking music well into the final Genesis disc!!!  This is of course all in my opinion...all music is to be loved by someone...no one is right and no one is wrong!!!!!!!


Posted By: Sibbe
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 10:19
^ I agree 100% with poster above.

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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 10:23
Genesis, although it's a tough choice.


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Posted By: White Queen
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 11:36
No competition on this one.

Pink Floyd







Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 12:32

Well, comparing these two great bands is like comparing pineapples and truffles. Pink Floyd has always been one of my favorite bands, but Genesis gets the number one spot for me.

I didn't like Dark Side Of The Moon when it first came out. I thought it was too blusey in comparison to the band's more psychedelic spatial realms of previous albums. Of course in time my opinions and feelings about the album changed in favor of it. Sonically it's a great album, one of the best.

I think my life changed the very first time I heard Watcher Of The Skies.  The haunting theatrical piano intro to The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway are prog milestones. I always felt Tony Banks had always been shoved behind Keith Emerson and Rick Wakeman. He's up there with them.

Then again, what other band produced a Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, Mike Rutherford and Steve Hackett?

In the beginning there was Genesis...



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Posted By: Pneubauer
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 02:15
WOO! Genesis is probably the greatest prog band of all time but Pink Floyd is winning! Everyone's gone mad! WOO! Im an ANIMAL! Im gonna go rob some old women, consume vast amounts of drugs and alcohol, and then ... vote for Pink Floyd!


No no... I was just kidding about that last part... I'm not crazy... and... plus I already voted for Genesis hours ago.




Posted By: PhantomBannana
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 05:16

The Floyd have a more monochromatic sound, thick; not a whole lot going on musically. But what they do they do very well, and it hardly ever becomes tiring to me. I think Genesis are (Were? I'm thinking in present tense here...) able to suggest a whole lot more, in terms of musicianship. And Genesis have some great moments recorded. I just feel that Genesis are/were (the days of Floyd and Genesis are long past I suppose) kind of inconsistant. I literally stopped listening to 80's Genesis once I turned ten.

In any case. My vote goes towards Pink Floyd.

First post by the way.



Posted By: eloii
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 05:58
GENESIS! >_<



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