worst kate bush song..
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Topic: worst kate bush song..
Posted By: Guests
Subject: worst kate bush song..
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 07:01
its too hard to choose most of her songs are awful
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 07:03
I've noticed you critisise Kate Bush at every opportunity........can't you stop acting like a 12 year old?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 07:11
mommy, mommy ''RANGER'' DOESNT LIKE K.BUSH. cant i go out and play now ?? Hows that for a 12 year old LIGHTEN UP SNOW DOG.....
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Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 07:43
Don't remember the title but the one song she "sings" (expires?) with Peter gabriel sucks a lot.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 07:48
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 07:53
How about some reasoned criticism rather than generalised ranting?
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Posted By: Garbs
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 07:56
ranger wrote:
its too hard to choose most of her songs are awful |
in your opinion
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 08:02
ranger:
You are entitled to your views of course, but if you dont like an artist just ignore their work, OR if you wish to debate them, offer some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.
I happen to think Kate Bush makes fantastic music. I'm not that into these 'worst of' threads to be honest.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 08:21
Snow Dog wrote:
I've noticed you critisise Kate Bush at every opportunity........can't you stop acting like a 12 year old? |
Hard to believe but ranger is 52 years old.
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Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 08:26
So am I! Still acting like a kid sometimes anyway
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 15:20
I notice ranger hasn't been back to defend his "opinion".
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 15:31
I recently purchased 2 lps from her and couldn't get through them both. The music is tortuous to my ears I can tell that these will not be growers either. It's like quirky cliched 80's pop with this caterwauler of a singer that just grates on my nerves. I am sorry if this offends anyone, but hey...since the thread was brought up...why not.
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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 15:35
Well, for me, Kate Bush is amazing and has only one weak album in her career...my opinion, only.
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: December 13 2005 at 00:29
On the subject however.....
Never liked 'Mother stands for comfort'...always thought it was the one weak link on 'Hounds of love'.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 13 2005 at 03:02
Probably would be something on The Dreaming.There is an eclectic mixture of gems and turds on that album.Failing that then Red Shoes has some very bland offerings.Perhaps 'Rubber Band Man'? That one grates!
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 12:48
that's an interesting thread! original!
well, many tracks on the dreaming are just simply unbearable!
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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 14:13
Strange....The Dreaming is one of my favorite albums of hers and I don't find a weak track on it...experimental, sure, but bad? No.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 14:19
kenmeyerjr wrote:
Strange....The Dreaming is one of my favorite albums of hers and I don't find a weak track on it...experimental, sure, but bad? No. |
I agree with you.
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 15:06
whats wrong with asking for 'best of'? - these neagative threads are soul-destroying,they feed off negativity and cause bad feeling all round - no one makes you listen to kate bush and if you dont want to listen then just LOOK at her - mmmmmmmm
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 15:27
Snow Dog wrote:
kenmeyerjr wrote:
Strange....The Dreaming is one
of my favorite albums of hers and I don't find a weak track on
it...experimental, sure, but bad? No. |
I agree with you. |
Me too. Only Hounds of Love and Aerial are better imo.
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Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 20:14
I liked Kate Bush's music till the album "Aerial". As a male person she
incorporated for me the eternal vamp and at the same time the
innocent young girl looking for love, emotions and - perhaps -
surrender. From her album "Red shoes" I liked "Song of Solomon". There
she sings "... I don't want your bullsh*t, I just want your sexuality
...". That is obvious enough. The older song "Baboushka" is also
treating the relationship between man and woman. - That was ok for me -
as a male person.
The new album "Aerial" has a big flaw in my opinion. She is not seeking
anymore, she has found. She has her little son whom she is loving
absolutely. - This is a crucial problem in art. If you are
satisfied, happy and well situated there is notihing you can contribute
to art. Your senses are dull. They are blocked by your feelings of
happyness. Kate is expressing her happyness on "Aerial". That is ok.
But it does not meet my personal taste. It's a statement that cannot
reach my ears. The music is flat, there are some birds ont the CD
singing from time to time. Peaceful atmosphere. But this is not my
situation. And perhaps not of many persons.
I would recommend this album to any new mother and father, or, to
mothers and fathers in general. And if your are able to make money with
that - the better. And for her little boy it is the money he will spend
in the future. That's ok.
Art is only fisable in a situation of pain, sorrow, hopelessness. This
claim is not too bad. I have heard only very seldom, that the
oppositehas been going to work. Tschaikowsky has written his last
symphony in a kind of agony. And that's what makes it great. If he
would have been happy like a jumping dog before dinner the work would
have been flat. This does not claim that we all should be unhappy.
Flat - that's my impression of the music of the totally happy
mother Kate. I will make this record a gift to a girl that wants to
have children soon. And for that purpose it's perfect. Happiness is a
warm gun - the Beatles once told us. But does it help making good music?
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 20:24
rockandrail wrote:
Don't remember the title but the one song she "sings" (expires?) with Peter gabriel sucks a lot. |
It's either "another day" (appearing on the 'Christmas special' TV show) or "don't give up", both songs bringing tears to my eyes. But I suppose you are not aware of the first song, so you are probably refering to "don't give up", and in this case I don't understand yiur feelings towards this song : it is pure beauty.
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Posted By: Rashikal
Date Posted: December 14 2005 at 21:22
i dont understand why everyone here likes kate bush. she is POP. and if she does do some prog, it's really unimpressive.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 02:49
jojim wrote:
I liked Kate Bush's music till the album "Aerial". As a male person she incorporated for me the eternal vamp and at the same time the innocent young girl looking for love, emotions and - perhaps - surrender. From her album "Red shoes" I liked "Song of Solomon". There she sings "... I don't want your bullsh*t, I just want your sexuality ...". That is obvious enough. The older song "Baboushka" is also treating the relationship between man and woman. - That was ok for me - as a male person.
The new album "Aerial" has a big flaw in my opinion. She is not seeking anymore, she has found. She has her little son whom she is loving absolutely. - This is a crucial problem in art. If you are satisfied, happy and well situated there is notihing you can contribute to art. Your senses are dull. They are blocked by your feelings of happyness. Kate is expressing her happyness on "Aerial". That is ok. But it does not meet my personal taste. It's a statement that cannot reach my ears. The music is flat, there are some birds ont the CD singing from time to time. Peaceful atmosphere. But this is not my situation. And perhaps not of many persons.
I would recommend this album to any new mother and father, or, to mothers and fathers in general. And if your are able to make money with that - the better. And for her little boy it is the money he will spend in the future. That's ok.
Art is only fisable in a situation of pain, sorrow, hopelessness. This claim is not too bad. I have heard only very seldom, that the oppositehas been going to work. Tschaikowsky has written his last symphony in a kind of agony. And that's what makes it great. If he would have been happy like a jumping dog before dinner the work would have been flat. This does not claim that we all should be unhappy.
Flat - that's my impression of the music of the totally happy mother Kate. I will make this record a gift to a girl that wants to have children soon. And for that purpose it's perfect. Happiness is a warm gun - the Beatles once told us. But does it help making good music?
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Interesting but I suspect that is a deeply flawed argument.When musicians get together in a band for the first time they tend to be both happy and inspired..at the same time! As regards Kate Bush the latest album does show some settleness in the music but she has deliberately used this mood to create someting fascinatiing and slightly surreal (like the song about the Washing Machine!).You can only judge an album like this after a few years IMO.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 03:19
jojim
You raise some very interesting points there. There may be some truth in that an artist produces their best work when living with adversity.
I would have to disagree with you generally on Aerial though. I know it's all down to ones personal taste and I would agree that this is not exactly her best album, but I would say that it is better than Lionheart and The Red Shoes. Aerial has all the good KB trademarks throughout and I would say it is more progressive than the aforementioned albums.
I think also richardh is right about needing to allow these albums to sink in over a few years perhaps. I found that with both Hounds of Love and The Dreaming, I had to re-visit them a number of times to appreciate exactly how brilliant they were, especially The Dreaming which is very experimental.
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Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 05:13
Agreed. I just give it a try later on. Aerial means perhaps "not to catch" And that is what happens here with Kate.
On the other side: the new McCartney album fascinates me over the top.
Ok it's POP. But in a way it has also some elements of Prog, or let me
say, the feeling of Prog (e.g. "vanity faire"). This musical statement
can touch me. It's weird. Paul reaches my ears. And he is as long in
the business as Kate. But this is of course a personal feeling. And I'm
a man. I listened at least 100 times to the whole McCartney album
"Chaos ...". Just to say.
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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 13:11
Boy, for me, The Dreaming and Hounds hit me like a ton of bricks on the first listen and never let up (and I have a soft spot for Lionheart as well, as I think it was the first one I bought loooong ago). I need some time for Aerial to sink in, especially since it is a double album.
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Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 13:25
Rashikal wrote:
i dont understand why everyone here likes kate bush.
she is POP. and if she does do some prog, it's really unimpressive.
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Funny, I've never heard Experiment IV, Houdini, Get Out of My House,
Heads We're Dancing, Breathing, Sat In Your Lap, et al. played on top
40 pop radio...
In fact, I'd say that most of these titles are pretty god*amned impressive examples of prog. But just my humble opinion.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 14:03
DEzerov wrote:
Rashikal wrote:
i dont understand why everyone here likes kate bush.
she is POP. and if she does do some prog, it's really unimpressive.
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Funny, I've never heard Experiment IV, Houdini, Get Out of My House,
Heads We're Dancing, Breathing, Sat In Your Lap, et al. played on top
40 pop radio...
In fact, I'd say that most of these titles are pretty god*amned impressive examples of prog. But just my humble opinion.
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Well said Dezerov, nobody should confuse Kate Bush with the stuff that
passes for "pop" these days. Westlife are pop, Kate Bush is not.
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Posted By: soundsweird
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 02:24
Worst song: The song she does with Prince on "Red Shoes", "Why Should I Love You?"
I have to agree somewhat with Jojim about "Aerial"; although I found several tracks to like, I think that the woman has lost her edge. I also feel that her gift for melody has abandoned her; most of the songs get a groove going, and that's about it. No "verse, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus" songs (with a few exceptions). The song "Bertie" could have been great if not for the cloying lyrics. But mostly, it's the fact that she never lets loose on this album. It makes for a lack of contrast, chugging along at mid-tempo. Moments of power or delicacy are missing in action.
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Posted By: Rashikal
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 16:44
kate bush is horrid, get off her balls.
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Posted By: GTOMax
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 16:55
This is probably not the best thing to post as my first message, but
didn't anyone think that Hounds of Love was just a little too
weird? I mean, a few of those songs reminded me of a Listerine
commercial or something -- and when she starts growling of a dog, well,
I now know where they got the idea for Sigorney Weaver's character in
Ghostbusters originally.
I'm sure Kate is mostly sane, but most of her material is just too much
for me -- I listen to some pretty weird stuff, too. Hell, I own a
whole bunch of Penderecki recordings and find them to be less weird
(Magnificat, Threnody can't outcreep Hounds of Love).
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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 17:04
Hhahhahaha, that is sorta funny, tho....posting that Kate Bush is a bit weird...and having a big Manson as your signature!
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Posted By: Dazo
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 17:14
ranger wrote:
its too hard to choose most of her songs are awful |
What a twat!
Can I say Twat?
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Posted By: Dalex_61
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 17:15
I read two or three highly interesing posts in this topic. I have to say that I like Kate Bush very much. Having said that, I really don't care if she makes prog music or not, but I don't think so. Let's say that Kate's music is a world apart. About her new CD, well... I read many different opinions and that's actually a peculiar album... the music seems to grow lighter and lighter... it's a sort of breeze passing by. I'm sure I'll have to listen to this CD more and more to make up my mind.
Should I add that all I said is just my opinion?
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Posted By: Dazo
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 19:12
gdub411 wrote:
I recently purchased 2 lps from her and couldn't get through them both. The music is tortuous to my ears I can tell that these will not be growers either. It's like quirky cliched 80's pop with this caterwauler of a singer that just grates on my nerves. I am sorry if this offends anyone, but hey...since the thread was brought up...why not. |
Can I ask why you "purchased 2 lps from her"?
Were they recomended to you?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 19:24
Dazo wrote:
ranger wrote:
its too hard to choose most of her songs are awful |
What a twat!
Can I say Twat?
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No!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 19:55
richardh wrote:
Dazo wrote:
ranger wrote:
its too hard to choose most of her songs are awful |
What a twat!
Can I say Twat?
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No!
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Not without backing it up! In what way is he a twat? Expand further!
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 20:07
Snow Dog wrote:
richardh wrote:
Dazo wrote:
ranger wrote:
its too hard to choose most of her songs are awful |
What a twat!
Can I say Twat?
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No!
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Not without backing it up! In what way is he a twat? Expand further! |
He has the properties of femal genitalia?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 20:11
Forgotten Son wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
richardh wrote:
Dazo wrote:
ranger wrote:
its too hard to choose most of her songs are awful |
What a twat!
Can I say Twat?
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No!
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Not without backing it up! In what way is he a twat? Expand further!
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He has the properties of femal genitalia?
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..or maybe he has similarities to a pregnant fish?
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 21:09
GTOMax wrote:
This is probably not the best thing to post as my first message, but didn't anyone think that Hounds of Love was just a little too weird? I mean, a few of those songs reminded me of a Listerine commercial or something -- and when she starts growling of a dog, well, I now know where they got the idea for Sigorney Weaver's character in Ghostbusters originally.
I'm sure Kate is mostly sane, but most of her material is just too much for me -- I listen to some pretty weird stuff, too. Hell, I own a whole bunch of Penderecki recordings and find them to be less weird (Magnificat, Threnody can't outcreep Hounds of Love).
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Wow, don't know what message you were going for with the Manson photo, but "potentially-dangerous-and-mildly-retarded-30-year-old-web-s talker-who-lives-in-his-mother's-apartment-and-has-a-newspap er-delivery-route" is what it says to me. Creepy.
Anyway, I don't really see what the point is to these "most sucky song/band/album/artist" threads either, but since I'm already here -
solo sucky song: Sexual Healing - no one besides Marvin Gaye should ever sing that song
duo sucky song: Comfortably Numb w/Dave Gilmour - just horrid
bonus: This Woman's Work - not bad necessarily, but I really didn't get the point to this one
And in the interest of balance, some of my personal favorites -
Hounds of Love Wuthering Heights Kite Running Up That Hill
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 08:08
soundsweird wrote:
Worst song: The song she does with Prince on "Red Shoes", "Why Should I Love You?"
I have to agree somewhat with
Jojim about "Aerial"; although I found several tracks to like, I think
that the woman has lost her edge. I also feel that her gift for
melody has abandoned her; most of the songs get a groove going, and
that's about it. No "verse, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus" songs
(with a few exceptions). The song "Bertie" could have been great
if not for the cloying lyrics. But mostly, it's the fact that she
never lets loose on this album. It makes for a lack of contrast,
chugging along at mid-tempo. Moments of power or delicacy are
missing in action.
&nbs p;
&n bsp;
&nbs p;
&n bsp;
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I like "Why should I love you"! I think you have a point about the
melodies on "Aerial" but if you bear with it, you will hopefully find
it grows on you, especially the second CD.
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