"Coolness" factor comes and goes regardless of the quality of the band. Maybe one exception is the Beatles who have remained cool for 40 years. I remember there was about a 5 year period when Led Zeppelin was pretty un-hip. Then they became cool again.

what an eclectic collection of bands.

I love Jefferson Airplane, early Jefferson Starship and Paul Kantner's crew calling themselves Jefferson Starship today, but I did not like Starship at all...so its them, closely followed by Bay city rollers..I still have my tartan trousers at home somewhere

Damn... I was scared it was bout apperance... And that SG were in it...

I like U2

I heard U2 claiming they changed rock guitar. Sorry, but each song contains the same licks, and they just did an upside down version (whatever) of some common guitar licks.

Pretenious, self-indulgent - the critisisms of progressive rock - clearly apply to U2, the band the politically correct glorify. please excuse the spelling mistakes

To be honest, I couldn't care less about conceptions of cool- the modern 'cool' music is basically bad 'indie' (though the term has been blurred) such as Coldplay or Keane, and derivative punk bands.

I predict in many years that rap music will have an 'uncool' stigma attached to it though- already it's become a pale shadow of what it was in the '80s (and I hate the 80s model as well!!!) and has fallen into mindless bravado and braggidocio- a gruesome parody. In my opinion, most of the music about these days shouldn't be revered, and I'm 17!!

Yet, in regard to your poll, I'd find it hard finding anyone who would admit to liking Starship, KC and the Sunshine Band or Bay City Rollers, but Judas Priest are easily one of the most incredible and influential metal bands ever, and WHY were Grand Funk ever uncool?? I think they are as good as any rock band out there!! And to be honest, Triumph aren't particularly well known imo...

I admit to liking Journey, yet with some slight embarassment, as they probably are the cheesiest AOR band ever, so I'd vote for them....

I think Bon Jovi should definitely be on that list- any band that does lyrics like 'you lost more than that on my back seat, baby' should be deemed uncool forever!!

And U2 are way too ubiquitous a band for me- always present on these 'best albums/bands ever' polls, yet their music is way too bland and unadventurous for me- but I don't think they are uncool.

This the most "uncool" poll yet

And why are you lumping the great Judas Priest among all those other bands????

The Godfather of Soul, James Brown! He is HOT!!!!

(runs away in shame and digs a hole to hide in)

Manunkind wrote: The Godfather of Soul, James Brown! He is HOT!!!!       (runs away in shame and digs a hole to hide in)

Don't be ashamed Manunkind,JB is awesome.

But as far as R&B and Soul is concerned I am more of a Marvin Gaye fan.Otis Redding was incredible too.

TheProgtologist wrote: Manunkind wrote: The Godfather of Soul, James Brown! He is HOT!!!!       (runs away in shame and digs a hole to hide in) Don't be ashamed Manunkind,JB is awesome. But as far as R&B and Soul is concerned I am more of a Marvin Gaye fan.Otis Redding was incredible too.

Yeah, he is awesome, too bad my pun wasn't

I'm not voting in this dumb poll because 70's and 80's bands are listed.  Now if you included crappy "bands" from the 90's and 00's, when talent took a huge nosedive, that would be a different matter. 

It has to be any "Raw" Black Metal band, what is so "Raw" about sh*tty music?

Sinner, you totally jacked my avatar.

Oh yeah, and U2 is uncool- not to mention the fact The Edge totally dissed prog in Guitar World a couple of months ago.

Yeah, and what makes your "minimalistic" playing style or whatever it's called so much better?

Nothing.

Edge = Pwned

GoldenSpiral wrote: why dont more people hate journey?   everyone in that band sucks except steve smith (the drummer), but that's only because he quit journey to study jazz.  and why does everyone hate U2?  sure Bono is annoying, but the Edge is a serious BAMF.

Ehhh....... You think Neal Schon sucks, and the edge is a serious BAMF? Have you ever heard or seen schon play? He is an amazing guitarist!! Very underrated.

Judas Priest' music has influenced so many good metal bands out there, they are definately not uncool in that department.

Unlike U2, they don't think are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Unfortunately, they have become a parody of themselves with the leather, studs, motorcycles etc.

Yes, KISS and other glam/hair bands are the same, but no one ever took them seriously.

There is too much in the film Rock Star that is true.

First of all, "cool" means absolutely nothing to me.  It's a completely useless term.

But, if there ever was an uncool band, it would have to be Milli Vanilli.

Cool or uncool does not mean good or bad. I love Judas Priest and I have every album they ever made. But I put them in there - I don't mind if somebody thinks they are not cool.

Yes Huey Lewis and Hootie might get a lot of votes.

viperjr98 wrote: First of all, "cool" means absolutely nothing to me.  It's a completely useless term. But, if there ever was an uncool band, it would have to be Milli Vanilli.

Cool is the coolest word.

RUSH!!!!

(you know i had to say it )

If I cared for cool bands would be in the wrong forum.

Learn something once and forever:  PROG' IS NOT COOL, NEVER WAS AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL.

Iván

 I think Marylin Manson is very uncool. His biggest hits are covers of 80's pop songs and his "own"

songs contain borrowed themes of David Bowie and Faith No More. He has not more vocal talents than I have.

 The whole MM thing is a hoax and I find it rather disgusting.

[quote}Not sure about that. There is an interesting discussion in another thread about how Gong, Tangerine Dream etc. were maybe forerunners of todays trance-ambient music which is super cool at the clubs and raves. If trance is an offshoot of prog then prog is pretty cool.[/quote]

I don't agree, people in trance-ambient parties, discos or raves don't give a damn who is playing, which band is which band, even  ELP knowing that, released re-works (A trance-rave mix) to gain new audience, but it was crap even for raves.

People at those parties just follow the beat and the work done by the Dj's adding sounds and synthetized rhythms, this doesn't mean Gong or Tangerine Dream are cool bands, ask any of the guys there who are Gong or Tangerine Dream and 99'9% won't have a fu**ing idea.

I stand in my point, since I'm 13 (1977) and a Proghead, our beloved music hasn't been remotely cool, they called us nerds, trekkies-Sci Fi nuts, Mythological idiots, insane, potsmokers, pompous bast*rds, snobs, etc.

I thought since Dream Theater, Prog Metal was considered cool, but last weel a member of PA told me that they were seen as satanist and addicts (a common stereotype) receiving a lot of pressure not even from Rap or Hip Hop fans (Which are the most today), but also from religious groups, so I believe things are still the same. 

A cool band has the support of the radios, DJ's and musical industry, Prog as a genre never had it (except for a couple of bands).

So I insist Prog isn't cool, never was and most surely never will.

Iván

John Gargo wrote: Out of those listed, I picked U2.  I would rather be sodomized with a rusty steel pole than be subjected to a full album of their material.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

maidenrulez wrote: I think Genesis where concidered cool in the 80's and it was concidered cool and trendy to go to an Genesis concert

They were not Prog on the 80's.

Iván

The Miracle wrote: green day is the worst

  People have compared them to the Beatles.  How can anyone ever compare a crappy band like that to the Beatles.  

ivan_2068 wrote: [quote}Not sure about that. There is an interesting discussion in another thread about how Gong, Tangerine Dream etc. were maybe forerunners of todays trance-ambient music which is super cool at the clubs and raves. If trance is an offshoot of prog then prog is pretty cool.

I don't agree, people in trance-ambient parties, discos or raves don't give a damn who is playing, which band is which band, even  ELP knowing that, released re-works (A trance-rave mix) to gain new audience, but it was crap even for raves.

People at those parties just follow the beat and the work done by the Dj's adding sounds and synthetized rhythms, this doesn't mean Gong or Tangerine Dream are cool bands, ask any of the guys there who are Gong or Tangerine Dream and 99'9% won't have a fu**ing idea.

I stand in my point, since I'm 13 (1977) and a Proghead, our beloved music hasn't been remotely cool, they called us nerds, trekkies-Sci Fi nuts, Mythological idiots, insane, potsmokers, pompous bast*rds, snobs, etc.

I thought since Dream Theater, Prog Metal was considered cool, but last weel a member of PA told me that they were seen as satanist and addicts (a common stereotype) receiving a lot of pressure not even from Rap or Hip Hop fans (Which are the most today), but also from religious groups, so I believe things are still the same. 

A cool band has the support of the radios, DJ's and musical industry, Prog as a genre never had it (except for a couple of bands).

So I insist Prog isn't cool, never was and most surely never will.

Iván

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Dream Theater satanist?!

Human stupidity has really no boundaries! Falling Into Stupidity...

Norbert wrote: Dream Theater satanist?! Human stupidity has really no boundaries! Falling Into Stupidity...

There's no limit for human stupidity and for fundamentalism, I just was telling what a member told me in his PM answering to one of my posts (Again I don't give names, because if he sent a private message, he must have his reasons, and PM's must remain private).

About a year ago we were talking in Prog Archives about an a$$hole who wrote saying Prog was satanic on his web page and also said:

• All Progheads are pot smokers and smell like pot becaus4e yjey smoke it all day.
• All Progheads are dirty pigs who use old jeans and never wash them
• Progressive rock is satanic, and used King Crimson as an example.
• All Progheads have long hair and dirty beards.

Plus some more stupid things, he received so many messages from members of PA, that he had to close his web site.

Iván

I don't feel ashamed to say I really like Joshua's Tree, but nothing released by U2 after this great album.

Don't get so much hatred, Phil Collins never played with them

Iván

Actually all the groups on the list have some cool merits - with the exception of "Starship" .

Starship were uncool when they came into being and imo will always be one of the most uncool groups ever. Jefferson Airplane and Jefferson Starship on the other hand are VERY cool.

You whiteys who voted KC did so cuz you don't know how to get funky and shake yo thing. Don't dis my man KC. He rocks!

I voted Starship because "Built This City" line up was f*cked. Sorry for breaking the profanity rule, but I think the moderators will make an exception here.

U2 and Bono are lame. They've done 2 good albums, notably Achtung Baby, but haven't made a decent record in 14 years. They suck. Rarely have 4 people made so much money for doing nothing. And what's really pathetic - they had to load fake reviews for "Atomic Bomb" on Amazon because the album was getting slammed. Here's my review on Amazon:

Caveat Emptor: there's a general rule of thumb for reviews for this album: bad or medicore reviews are written by real people, as evidenced by the fact that they have written other reviews. (just click on "see all my reviews")

In contrast, the 5-star reviews are brief and usually written by people who have written few if any other reviews. Hmmm. Very, very suspicious.

It's also very odd that about half of the 5-star reviews are written by people with Hispanic names - and most with only one review written. Perhaps a massive campaign of propaganda and lies was off-shored to Puerto Rico or Mexico.

Also these reviews consistenly refer to the band's 2005 tour, proving that U2 manager Paul McGuinness is saavy at cross-marketing. At least U2 is doing a good job of watching the bottom line.

It's pretty sad that a band that was once one of the greatest in the world has apparently resorted to flooding Amazon with fake reviews. Shame on U2.

I have to agree with the hype Green Day is getting a lot of praise for essentially making the same album as the previous ones they were condemned for.

Do you think they would be getting similar praise by the press if their cd was "American Genius", instead of American Idiot?

As the late Bill Graham stated, quote, unquote "a lot of these bands were willing the condemn the Vietnam War, but none were willing to go against their peer group and condemn the taking of acid which created just as many casualities". - Syd Barrett was not the only one

Let's see bands like Green Day be willing to go against their peer group and start condeming e.g. Meth, "ice", political correctness etc. It won't make them any better, but at least they will get honest praise from the press

P.S. On Bruce Springsteen's acoustic tour he insisted everyone be seated at 7:30, yet many times showed up a half hour late. The working stiff would usually get fired for showing up that many times late.

How is he representing the working person he claims to represent, when most working people can't afford his concert tickets in the $200 range?