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Topic: Citations in music (not covers)
Posted By: UncleMeat
Subject: Citations in music (not covers)
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 15:04
You often hear bands citing  music from other bands. For example, citing a tiny piece of music of a band that they like or dislike.
Example: Zappa - He's so gay is citing "do you really want to hurt me" by Culture Club.

Do you know of other bands who did this? (are there any citings of Genesis music going round, for example?)
 

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Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 15:23
Quote flying off the handle with careful with
that axe eugene gene the dance machine
messiah light my fire gabba gabba
hey hey my my generation's home
again
From Octavarium by Dream Theater. This was the first one that came to mind.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 15:41

Wrong post answer, deleted by me

Iván


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Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 03:55

A few examples come to mind...

There is a few seconds musical citation of Genesis' "Fountain of Salmacis" in The Flower Kings' "World of Adventures".

Peter Hammill sings parts of his own "A Motorbike in Africa" and the chorus of Peter Gabriel's "Biko" in the end of the song "Sun City Night Life".

And After Crying has cited the most characteristic riffs from King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid Man" somewhere on one of their albums, I think it's on "Show".



Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 04:12
On their live-double "Once In A Lifetime" one can listen to Dream Theater citing "Freebird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Moby Dick" by Led Zeppelin, "Plat Opus" by Platypus, "Have A Cigar" by Pink Floyd, "Enter Sandman" by Metallica, "Paradigm Shift" by Liquid Tension Experiment and "Flight Of The Bumblebee" by Nikolai Rismky-Korsakov.
On "Journey To The Centre Of The Earth" Rick Wakeman cites a piece of "Hall Of The Mountain King" by Edvard Grieg.
Some peolpe say, that Marillions earlier albums were nothing but citations of Genesis  

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Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 10:22
Zappa's 'Status Back Baby' cites Stravinsky's 'Petrushka'


Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 10:43
check out the recent SAGA albums and read the
lyrics – they're full of references and even song titles
of their very own times and albums past. so much for
aging gracefully ... or what was that again in
"breathing lessons" (off MARATHON") ... "... shake
the tree, we're gonna climb the ladder..."


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 11:28
To whoever moved it: citation is a musical technique


Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 11:52
The Winning Game, by The Tangent, cites "What the world needs now is love sweet love" by...  someone 

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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 12:19
What about Rush using Raymond Scott's "Powerhouse" as a section of "La Villa Strangiato"?

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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 12:21

And many Keith Emerson solos have citations.

And "Pirates" cites "Karn Evil 9 1st Impression"



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Posted By: jefmoret
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 16:37
"Lamb Lies Down.." by Genesis has bits from Rolling's Stones "Its Only Rock and Roll" and The Drifter's "On Broadway"





Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 16:44

Originally posted by jefmoret jefmoret wrote:

"Lamb Lies Down.." by Genesis has bits from Rolling's Stones "Its Only Rock and Roll" and The Drifter's "On Broadway"



It also cites "Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head" or whatever it's called, and many more.



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Posted By: UncleMeat
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:17
Originally posted by lunaticviolist lunaticviolist wrote:

Originally posted by jefmoret jefmoret wrote:

"Lamb Lies Down.." by Genesis has bits from Rolling's Stones "Its Only Rock and Roll" and The Drifter's "On Broadway"



It also cites "Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head" or whatever it's called, and many more.


I believe Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head is from the film Butch and the Sundance Kid (Paul Newman)
I know "They Say the Neon Lights look bright on Broadway" by George Benson, but this can not be the original.


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Posted By: UncleMeat
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:21
Originally posted by yargh yargh wrote:

Zappa's 'Status Back Baby' cites Stravinsky's 'Petrushka'

On the same album (absolutely free) he also cits invocation and ritual dance from Rite of Spring (same Stravinsky).

I like the way Zappa always cites himself throughout his career. Wasn't that what he called "Conceptual Continuity"?


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Posted By: GatesOfDelirium
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:29
Glass Onion.
The Beatles... citing the Beatles.


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Posted By: UncleMeat
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:43
The Residents' Kaw-Liga is a cover of a Hank Williams song. Someone told me that his wifes name was Billy Jean and that's why the Residents cover uses the Michael Jackson 'drive' in the song.





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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:53
Peter Hammill cites "Put on Your Red Dress, Baby" by José Feliciano in "Lost and Found" on his album "Over".

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:55
Steve Hillage cites the soundtrack of "Lawrence of Arabia" on his album "L" in the song "Hurdy Gurdy Glissando".

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Posted By: sonic wizard
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 22:23
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but somewhere in The Revealing Sciece of God (i'm pretty sure its this song, although it might be a different one of TFTO) you can hear the riff from Close To The Edge.

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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 00:36
Blue Oyster Cult's Golden Age Of Leather (1977) cites Beach Boys!


Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 02:13
PRIMUS quotes RUSH's "Yyz" on their "Suck On This" live. I think there's also a citation of KING CRIMSON's "Fracture" on some song by SONIC YOUTH?


Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 04:41
Iron Maidens Sign of the cross has very similar lyrics to Suppers ready by genesis

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