Six Live Tracks Recorded and Released in the 90s
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Topic: Six Live Tracks Recorded and Released in the 90s
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Six Live Tracks Recorded and Released in the 90s
Date Posted: April 02 2025 at 14:36
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The top three are three of my favourite songs off three of my favourite live albums where the live versions were recorded and released in the 90s (all are in PA but Portishead), and the song must not have been recorded in any format before the 1990s for me to choose it. Otherwise, say, Cardiacs' "Big Ship" off All That Glitters Is a Mares Nest would reside in the poll (that live version of the song was recorded and later released in the 90s, but it was not the first release of a "Big Ship"). The next three songs are off the top ranked live albums in PA that were released in the 1990s, and again I am trying to choose songs that were not recorded in any format before the 1990s. That Rush album covers various periods with recordings and compositions, but I am only choosing from 90s Rush. Please try to vote for one that you like and feel free to mention any other live tracks off albums, be it off the same or different live albums, that were both recorded and released on live albums in the 1990s as well as having not been recorded in nay format before the 1990s;. Fishmans "Long Season" (98.12.28 Otokotachi no wakare, recorded on 28 December 1998, released on 29 September 1999) Portishead "Sour Times" (Roseland NYC Live, album recorded 24 July 1997 - 3 July 1998, released 2 November 1998) Swans "Blood Promise" (Swans Are Dead, album recorded 29 August 1995 - 1997 and released 20 January 1998) Porcupine Tree "The Sky Moves Sideways" (Coma Divine, recorded March 25-27, 1997, released October 1997) Camel "Rose of Sharon" (Never Let Go, recorded on 5 September 1992, released in 1993) (16 second intro before 5:30 or so minute song starts, then follows other music from the album)* Rush "Roll the Bones" (Different Stages - Live, track recorded, unsure, released 10 November 1998) Despite Camel's live doing as well as it does in the rankings at PA (Camel is very popular here), I was limited by youtube with what I found that was available from it. I hope I was right with all and none had had earlier than the 90s releases (please let me know if I am in error). Feel free to vote for as many of these as you like and with little knowledge and mention any of your favourites off live albums where the songs/pieces were first recorded and released in the 1990s. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 02 2025 at 15:04
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By the way, my interest with this topic was not the poll so much as hearing about other people's favourite lives of the 90s which were not later versions of pre-90s songs. I thought about doing this another way but then thought that this might be a fun way to approach the topic. I do like the 90s a lot more for music than many others do. Here are a couple of other favourites of mine, a Swans track, Love of Life, from Omniscience (1992). And another off the Portishead album that I strongly considered for this (Mysterons): --------------------------------- I tend to prefer lives that differ from the studio counterparts or don't have studio counterparts. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 02 2025 at 18:16
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RRUUSSHH!! ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 02 2025 at 18:49
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Porcupine Tree from the list. I don't know the first three on your list but I know the last three. A song not on your list could include all of the songs pretty much from Anekdoten's Official Live Bootleg. Released in the late nineties and featuring tracks from their first three albums which were all released in the 90's, I could pick many of these. Let's go with Book Of Hours today. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 02 2025 at 20:07
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 00:01
Camel "Rose of Sharon 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 00:46
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Porcupine Tree... predictably, I know the bottom three only. I do appreciate the effort you put in toward imagining new polls Greg... My problem is the 1990s is quite a fallow area in my collection as its not a decade I tend to listen to much these days; I'd only give you some very obvious selections, such as IQ: Forever Live or Marillion: Made Again, which need no introduction from anyone... and you've already included PT. A live album from 1992 I do play quite a bit is Steve Hackett's Time Lapse, which I do really like, however it doesn't contain any 90's material!
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 02:45
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Rush and PT from the list. Not on the list, I would mention ELP - Romeo and Juliet , originally recorded on Black Moon (1992) and featured on the album Live At The Royal Albert Hall (1993). On the studio album it's a bit bogged down by Mark Mancina's production that was not well received by many fans. The following live album also divided fans with a fanzine poll of the day showing a 50:50 split for Live At THe Royal Albert Hall being both their best and worst ELP live album ever recorded! I think though that Romeo and Juliet fares well on that album, synths just seem to shine that bit more and Keith's Hammond crackles very nicely indeed.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 08:35
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The Sky Moves Sideways and Long Season. We now makes pants for octopuses. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 09:39
Thanks all.
I have grown to like Anekdoten a lot, especially after hearing 2015's Until All the Ghosts Are Gone not that long ago. Listening to Book of Hours now: This is exciting, good groove and I like the vocals, like the very strong King Crimson feel to it. I will listen to the whole album. Actually, it sounds so King Crimson in parts, and the title reminded me of Book of Saturday that I did double check that this was not a cover of KC, in part at least. I do hope you get the chance to try that Fishmans at some time (wish I had a CD of it to send you. The track I listed is a rendition of a whole album but just part of a 2 hours and ten minutes concert). ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Mellotron Storm wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 10:29
Thanks. I like to try to be creative (this site gives me some kind of outlet for that) and know that sometimes the idea work out, sometimes not, sometimes others and/or myself seem to appreciate the results/effort, sometimes not. C'est la vie. I have wanted to do this throughout the decades while encouraging people to mention their own faves. I would use an "other" option but then various people tend to neglect the offerings in the poll altogether. I have shared this before, but I was not that big on 90s music in the 90s. I heard and liked some stuff on the radio from the decade. And I used to club a lot, but was not big on house/techno. In Japan I got exposed to some interesting, out there music, not that I knew Fishmans then. In the mid 2000s I sought to modernise my tastes more as I was mostly stuck in the 60s and 70s. I found a ton to love in the 80s, and then a fair amount in the 90s (Miriodor and U Totem were two of my first loves of the decade at that time) and I was looking into and finding 2000s music. I spent quite a while where I was heavily listening to new-to-me albums. I was into Air before that which released one of my favourite albums of the 90s after discovering video through a flash video site that featured lot of Aardman production works. Some years ago before the pandemic I discovered a 90s Chris Morris radio show called Blue Jam which mixed surreal black comedy with largely 90s music creating a rather boozy-woozy experience often. That had a huge effect on my music listening. It led to me becoming a fan of Stereolab and Portishead, more into Bjork (I got to know Bjork's music while in Japan), and lots of other things, and that led to more and more and more. Got very into Radiohead etc. So for my case I did not listen to the 90s much in the 90s, it was in the in the 2010s that I got most into 90s music. Now I love to listen to music of all of the decades from the 60s up especially. The 70s still dominates my collection much more than any other decade, followed by the 80s, and 60s, then the 2010s... But in https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=134001" rel="nofollow - my live albums list where I chose to do but one album per act, it's clear to me that various of my absolute favourite live albums came from the 90s. That Fishmans and Portishead album can't be beat for me, plus I love Swans' Swans Are Dead and Omniscience, Cardiacs' All That Glitters is a Mares Nest. And while released later than the 90s, several of my favourite lives by Bjork were recorded in the 90s. And I like more Fishmans live. Actually, while I did not listen to a lot of 90s music at home, I did go to plenty of concerts in the 90s, but mostly those were jazz=bars and classical concerts and seeing blues bands at the pubs. I was big on going out at night to music venues then and hanging out in bars. My friends pushed me into the clubbing thing. Then I got married and did other stuff. Anyway, I love lives and the 90s put out some really great lives. Even though it's not Prog, I might have expected a vote for Portishead by now. Not for all tastes, but that album is great and is regarded by many as such a classic. Despite my penchant for experimental music, in some ways my tastes are more mainstream (okay, still alternative) than most here. Like with Portishead not getting any votes in this multiple vote poll, but then this is a small sample size and this is a Prog site. And the poll only came out about 20 hours ago. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 10:53
Thanks Richard, I'm definitely up to trying something new-to-me. And it's short in length, much like Romeo and Juliet's lives. I do prefer Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet, but then of course ELP adapting classical works for rock was a big thing for them. I like say ELP's Pictures at an Exhibition, but it ends up feeling too BBC Proms for me, a bit too populist and a bit too lowbrow. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 19:43
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Thanks for your comments on Anekdoten Greg. A top three band for me. I fell hook, line and sinker with these guys from the start. And yes, King Crimson was a huge influence on these Swedes. I recently watched a youtube video of them playing the song Gravity live in 2016? The Church's guitarist is on that one, and around 11 minutes in he's all hunched over just lighting it up with an incredible solo. I'd post the video but that's beyond my technical ability.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 03 2025 at 20:06
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Lastly, I will mention Forbidden By Rule a Djam Karet track from The Devouring, but also on Live At The Orion from 1999. There's also a track Province 19: The Visage Of War on that from Burning The Hard City. And I finally checked out Fishmans and I really like what I hear. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 04 2025 at 01:22
Thanks for posting the link on ELP - Romeo and Juliet. An interesting thing about Pictures at An Exhibition is that there are well over 50 adaptions of it, the most known and most played being Ravel's, but the founder of the Proms Sir Henry Wood also had a go |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2025 at 10:46
^ It's a very popular piece. By the way, one of my favourite usages of classical music (to use the general term which my son hates) is with Focus' Hamburger Concerto that adapts "Variations on a Theme by Haydn" by Johannes Brahms (so an adaptation of an adaptation).
I looked it up and saw that Marty Willson-Piper of The Church has toured with the band since 2015. I found this one with him for 2016: And another concert from Italy with excellent sax. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_4f9hRCL3M" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_4f9hRCL3M Both are superb.:) By the way, embedding individual, specific videos from youtube is easy, might take a little practice, just avoid timestamps, and doing playlists is done rather differently. Say with that youtube url (address) above which is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_4f9hRCL3M you only want copy the code after v= (that stands for video equals), so just C_4f9hRCL3M You then type tube tags around it, i.e. this with no spaces in it (the spaces break the embed): [ tube]C_4f9hRCL3M[ /tube] There also is a video editor but I keep that post editor turned off -- manually coding is easy and the forum editor causes annoying script to appear in my posts.
Really happy you checked out Fishmans and enjoyed what you heard! :) It is the act that I am happiest to have added for many years at PA. And I long felt bad about begging out of adding Geinoh Yamashirogumi (another I love from Japan) many years ago as I was so busy with my work then, so i personally felt like I had redeemed myself somewhat by taking care of the business this time. As for Djam Karat, as is is common with Cuneiform releases, what is on youtube is minimal (certainly from what I can see from my location), they just have Technology and Industry from the concert up (which is still very good): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC520Jm9wEQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC520Jm9wEQ but the album is on bandcamp: https://djamkaret.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-orion" rel="nofollow - https://djamkaret.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-orion Very good stuff. 20 years ago I was very into Djam Karat and should start listening to the band more again. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 04 2025 at 10:53
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Camel - Rose of Sharon. I'll Never Let Go of my Camel albums, and that includes The Single Factor too.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2025 at 11:10
Nice post. I enjoy music off the Single Factor. Before looking into it, one album with music on it that I thought might be of interest is Yes' Keys to Ascension from 1996. But then when looking into it I noticed that the only two actual 90s songs from it are not lives but studio songs on the album, Be the One and That, That Is. The rest are all live renditions of Yes classics rather than 90s songs. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: April 04 2025 at 11:23
Having bought The Single Factor on vinyl when it was first released, I have to get my Selva a CD copy of the album now. |