Progs voice in Gen X
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Topic: Progs voice in Gen X
Posted By: SoundscapeDJ
Subject: Progs voice in Gen X
Date Posted: June 27 2024 at 18:41
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Hi folks, I am on a quest to identify the first bands/artists of generation x to make progressive rock. Yes, generation x were certainly fed by boomer prog, but i am looking for the musicians that created music from our generation. Cobain is probably more likely pegged as the voice of gen x disatisfaction, but that was not the only language of gen x. Of course Steven Wilson counts but in the timeline, im trying to find the earliest prog music of gen x. What do you guys think? |
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 27 2024 at 19:35
| Imo, Echolyn were the first prog band from Generation X. None of the members as far as I know were born before 1964. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 03:18
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Let me finish to listen to Atom Heart Mother then I'll answer  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: SoundscapeDJ
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 04:09
| There are 2 directions this question can take. The first is who was the first born prog rock artist from generation x. I think it might be Derek Sherinian but I am still looking. The second is what was the first gen xer to come onto the prog scene- as in the earliest prog to feature primarily members of gen x. For reference, most demographics consider generation x to be between the years 1965-1980. Some versions skew to 62, but the majority say 65. |
Posted By: SoundscapeDJ
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 04:14
| Thanks, Echolyn had not even come to mind. Such a great band as well. If they are one of the first to represent our voice coming through the music then that would be a great start. Do you know if they have any songs that we might say clearly speak as their generation? Another question here is which bands sing about generation x as a culture but are progressive rock bands? The rabbit hole goes deep as I look at the question. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 06:32
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Dream Theater minus the original singer comes to mind. Not the earliest Gen X proggers, but The Aristocrats are an excellent band, and Marco Minnemann's solo works are superb. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 11:23
Dream Theater's first album appeared in '89, two years earlier than Echolyn's. From 1985-1987, Dream Theater was known as Majesty (they released a cassette EP called The Majesty Demos in '86). After original singer Chris Collins was let go, it took them a year to find Charlie Dominici. The name change happened when another band based in Vegas threatened to sue them. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 11:38
Not sure. Maybe Carpe Diem from their debut album. Maybe also 21 from their sophmore release Suffocating the Bloom. As for DT I didn't think of them maybe because they are prog metal. Echolyn are still one of the earliest.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 12:04
So the precise question to answer can be: Which was the first Progressive Rock album made by musicians born in the years 1965-80? ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 13:22
Oh, yeah, we gotta watch the metal tag, huh?  Atavism of Twilight is another one of the earliest, but Echolyn beat them by a year. AoT were great. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 14:28
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This is kind of hard since there are a lot of musicians for which we don't know their year of birth. I've been wondering if Devil Doll would be a good candidate. When was Mr. Doctor (Mario Panciera) born? Maybe Discipline?
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 15:04
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Djam Karet looks too old for this party. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 15:16
Yeah, they're out by only a few years. But Atavism of Twilight has a connection: Aaron Kenyon (b. 1970) played bass in DK while Henry J. Osborne was earning his teaching credential. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 16:47
Yeah, they're great if you like a crappy drum sound.
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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 17:52
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Mars Volta (Cedric born in 1975.) Greta van fleet? ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024 |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 18:15
Weren't those dudes all born after 1995? ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 18:16
Is that all you gotta say, Mike? Did James Labrie not autograph your chest? ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 18:20
Speaking of not having much (or at least nothing important) to say.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 18:21
Tell me you really miss the PE chats without telling me. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 18:35
Looks like the singer Joshua was born in 96. Not really Prog anyway… or are they? ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024 |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 18:45
I think they range 1996-99. They formed the band in high school. Yeah, definitely not prog, and shamelessly derivative. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 28 2024 at 19:59
Dude, that was a really long time ago.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 00:07
| Saga's 1995 album Generation 13 is about Gen X. Though I think the band members were a little older than what we now would consider to be Gen X (not by much). |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 04:12
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Anyway, it seems to me that Generation X began contributing to the genre in a quite young age, and altogether has done it pretty well.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 04:16
For not to talk about The Mars Volta releasing their first album in 2003. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 05:38
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Btw, I wouldn't consider Greta van Fleet as Progressive Rock, neither are they included in PA's archive. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 09:08
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I know it's not the first, and the experimental rock would not be thought of as Prog (as a genre) by all, but Mr. Bungle can be thought of as a pretty early example. The debut was released in 1991. Mike Patton was born in 1968 and Trey Spruance in 1969. I could say that it is sort of Pepsi, I mean Prog, for a new generation, but then I would relate it to music by John Zorn who was born in the early 50s, who I would related to Zappa born in 1940, and Beefheart etc.. Another topic of some possible interest might be what kinds of progressive/art music are different generations most associated with. |
Posted By: SoundscapeDJ
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 15:03
| Yes! Thank you for stating my question so clearly. For whatever reason, I was struggling. |
Posted By: SoundscapeDJ
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 15:30
Yes, thanks so much for making my question clear. I was struggling with articulating my question. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 18:10
| Wouldn't the three swedish ones from the 90's cound? Anglagard, Landberk, and Anekdoten? |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 19:12
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Deja-Vu – Baroque in the Future (1988) (What, Japanese bands don't count? ) Dream Theater – When Dream and Day Unite (1989) Echolyn – Echolyn (1991) Mr. Bungle – Mr. Bungle (1991) Rocket Scientists – Earthbound (1993) Lands End – Pacific Coast Highway (1994) Lana Lane – Love is an Illusion (1995) Somnambulist – Somnambulist (1996) ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 19:17
Absolutely, I believe they're all Gen-Xers. Anglagĺrd was co-founded by Tord Lindman, who was born in 1968, and I think he may be the oldest member of the band (not sure). ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: smoledman
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 22:19
| Probably Steven Wilson. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 06:59
a very good idea of a thread ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |